"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Jul 27, 3:56 pm, HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
It's simple...if you take a greenie over the bow or the sides, a boat
with
a transom like mine will shed that water a lot more quickly than a
boat
with a closed transom.
Not to get into hypotheticals, but assume my previous example for a
moment.
Your are out there drift fishing in a bit of a chop, the wind suddenly
picks
up due to a thunder boomer nearby, the seas start getting confused and
you
start taking a few splashes over the transom.
You wisely decide it's time to head in, but, alas! That reliable
Yamaha 4
stroke suddenly decided to have a bad computer day.
It won't start. The boat's starting to bounce around a bit, some of
the
growing waves smacking into that transom. Your feet start getting wet
....
oh .... wait ... that's ok. You don't mind.
Point is, if you took a serious greenie over the transom for some
reason,
don't you need power on to clear it "quickly"?
Eisboch

Actually most of the time water rolls right out the *four* transom
drains.


"Most of the time"? Just how often do you take on water over the
transom? What happens when the four drains don't do the job?




Ahhh...another customer for the bozo bin. Bye bye, a**hole.

Remember when you get to 20 you get a gold star. You must be getting close.
Eh?

On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 15:27:52 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

You wisely decide it's time to head in, but, alas! That reliable Yamaha 4
stroke suddenly decided to have a bad computer day.

There's an even worse scenario than that: Suppose you wind up a
lobster pot or crab trap on your prop. Now you are not only disabled,
but anchored by the stern as well. The operator will now go to the
rear of the boat to clear the problem and make the low transom even
lower, just as a wave or wake comes along and dumps another 300 pounds
in the back of the boat. This is not a hypothetical situation - it
actually happens, and if you don't have level flotation, the boat
sinks.

CalifBill wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 15:27:52 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

You wisely decide it's time to head in, but, alas! That reliable Yamaha
4
stroke suddenly decided to have a bad computer day.
There's an even worse scenario than that: Suppose you wind up a
lobster pot or crab trap on your prop. Now you are not only disabled,
but anchored by the stern as well. The operator will now go to the
rear of the boat to clear the problem and make the low transom even
lower, just as a wave or wake comes along and dumps another 300 pounds
in the back of the boat. This is not a hypothetical situation - it
actually happens, and if you don't have level flotation, the boat
sinks.


Friend did that with his Whaler 2 years ago. Wrapped a crap pot and 2 of 3
went to the back of the boat to untangle. As a wave hit boat, 3rd guy came
back to help. Boat flipped. Lucky for them, the whaler has a flat bottom
and 3 hours later, just before dark, a commercial crab guy saw them. Pulled
them off the bottom of the boat. Gear not in a floating ditch bag and spare
VHF went to the bottom of the sea.




You know, I cannot think of a powerboat boat that will not turn turtle
under some circumstances. And some boats will sink like a stone if
holed. Hit a nice sharp coral reef head in, oh, say a Grand Banks, punch
a 2' hagged hole in the bottom, and then what? Watch your boat sink.
That's what. And what would you make of that? That it is a good idea to
gain the experience you need to be a safe boater and to know where you
are at all times on the space-time continuum.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 15:27:52 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

You wisely decide it's time to head in, but, alas! That reliable Yamaha
4
stroke suddenly decided to have a bad computer day.

There's an even worse scenario than that: Suppose you wind up a
lobster pot or crab trap on your prop. Now you are not only disabled,
but anchored by the stern as well. The operator will now go to the
rear of the boat to clear the problem and make the low transom even
lower, just as a wave or wake comes along and dumps another 300 pounds
in the back of the boat. This is not a hypothetical situation - it
actually happens, and if you don't have level flotation, the boat
sinks.


Friend did that with his Whaler 2 years ago. Wrapped a crap pot and 2 of 3
went to the back of the boat to untangle. As a wave hit boat, 3rd guy came
back to help. Boat flipped. Lucky for them, the whaler has a flat bottom
and 3 hours later, just before dark, a commercial crab guy saw them. Pulled
them off the bottom of the boat. Gear not in a floating ditch bag and spare
VHF went to the bottom of the sea.

On Jul 28, 1:58*pm, HK wrote:
CalifBill wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 15:27:52 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

You wisely decide it's time to head in, but, alas! * That reliable Yamaha
4
stroke suddenly decided to have a bad computer day.
There's an even worse scenario than that: *Suppose you wind up a
lobster pot or crab trap on your prop. *Now you are not only disabled,
but anchored by the stern as well. *The operator will now go to the
rear of the boat to clear the problem and make the low transom even
lower, just as a wave or wake comes along and dumps another 300 pounds
in the back of the boat. *This is not a hypothetical situation - it
actually happens, and if you don't have level flotation, the boat
sinks.

Friend did that with his Whaler 2 years ago. *Wrapped a crap pot and 2 of 3
went to the back of the boat to untangle. As a wave hit boat, 3rd guy came
back to help. *Boat flipped. *Lucky for them, the whaler has a flat bottom
and 3 hours later, just before dark, a commercial crab guy saw them. *Pulled
them off the bottom of the boat. *Gear not in a floating ditch bag and spare
VHF went to the bottom of the sea.

You know, I cannot think of a powerboat boat that will not turn turtle
under some circumstances. And some boats will sink like a stone if
holed. Hit a nice sharp coral reef head in, oh, say a Grand Banks, punch
a 2' hagged hole in the bottom, and then what? Watch your boat sink.
That's what. And what would you make of that? That it is a good idea to
gain the experience you need to be a safe boater and to know where you
are at all times on the space-time continuum.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

What's a "hagged hole"?

What's a "hagged hole"?

I'm sure I'm not the only one that has thought of multiple responses to
that, so I'll leave it alone. g

--Mike

wrote in message
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On Jul 28, 1:58 pm, HK wrote:
CalifBill wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 15:27:52 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

You wisely decide it's time to head in, but, alas! That reliable
Yamaha
4
stroke suddenly decided to have a bad computer day.
There's an even worse scenario than that: Suppose you wind up a
lobster pot or crab trap on your prop. Now you are not only disabled,
but anchored by the stern as well. The operator will now go to the
rear of the boat to clear the problem and make the low transom even
lower, just as a wave or wake comes along and dumps another 300 pounds
in the back of the boat. This is not a hypothetical situation - it
actually happens, and if you don't have level flotation, the boat
sinks.

Friend did that with his Whaler 2 years ago. Wrapped a crap pot and 2 of
3
went to the back of the boat to untangle. As a wave hit boat, 3rd guy
came
back to help. Boat flipped. Lucky for them, the whaler has a flat bottom
and 3 hours later, just before dark, a commercial crab guy saw them.
Pulled
them off the bottom of the boat. Gear not in a floating ditch bag and
spare
VHF went to the bottom of the sea.

You know, I cannot think of a powerboat boat that will not turn turtle
under some circumstances. And some boats will sink like a stone if
holed. Hit a nice sharp coral reef head in, oh, say a Grand Banks, punch
a 2' hagged hole in the bottom, and then what? Watch your boat sink.
That's what. And what would you make of that? That it is a good idea to
gain the experience you need to be a safe boater and to know where you
are at all times on the space-time continuum.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

What's a "hagged hole"?

Jim wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Jul 27, 3:56 pm, HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
It's simple...if you take a greenie over the bow or the sides, a
boat with
a transom like mine will shed that water a lot more quickly than a
boat
with a closed transom.
Not to get into hypotheticals, but assume my previous example for a
moment.
Your are out there drift fishing in a bit of a chop, the wind
suddenly picks
up due to a thunder boomer nearby, the seas start getting confused
and you
start taking a few splashes over the transom.
You wisely decide it's time to head in, but, alas! That reliable
Yamaha 4
stroke suddenly decided to have a bad computer day.
It won't start. The boat's starting to bounce around a bit, some
of the
growing waves smacking into that transom. Your feet start getting
wet ....
oh .... wait ... that's ok. You don't mind.
Point is, if you took a serious greenie over the transom for some
reason,
don't you need power on to clear it "quickly"?
Eisboch

Actually most of the time water rolls right out the *four* transom
drains.


"Most of the time"? Just how often do you take on water over the
transom? What happens when the four drains don't do the job?




Ahhh...another customer for the bozo bin. Bye bye, a**hole.

Remember when you get to 20 you get a gold star. You must be getting
close. Eh?

WAFA "binned" someone for a perfectly valid question. His narcissism
evidently causes him to react this way - avoiding any hint of adversity
with a false promise of avoidance.

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:58:06 -0400, HK wrote:

Hit a nice sharp coral reef head in, oh, say a Grand Banks, punch
a 2' hagged hole in the bottom,

There's a major difference: Coral heads are generally charted unless
you are boondocking, crab traps and lobster pots, never.

Hitting a coral head fast enough to hole your boat requires a great
deal of negligence, incredibly bad luck or both. Anyone who has *not*
snagged a trap at one time or another has not really been there.

On Jul 28, 10:56*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:58:06 -0400, HK wrote:
Hit a nice sharp coral reef head in, oh, say a Grand Banks, punch
a 2' hagged hole in the bottom,

There's a major difference: *Coral heads are generally charted unless
you are boondocking, crab traps and lobster pots, never.

Hitting a coral head fast enough to hole your boat requires a great
deal of negligence, incredibly bad luck or both. *Anyone who has *not*
snagged a trap at one time or another has not really been there.

I snagged one with one of Shortpants lures last season.. Boy was he
****ed. I told him I was just pointing it out for him. He's getting up
there you know Uh, uh, I mean, he's tall, yeah, way up there...
That's what I said..

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:58:06 -0400, HK wrote:

Hit a nice sharp coral reef head in, oh, say a Grand Banks, punch
a 2' hagged hole in the bottom,

There's a major difference: Coral heads are generally charted unless
you are boondocking, crab traps and lobster pots, never.

Hitting a coral head fast enough to hole your boat requires a great
deal of negligence, incredibly bad luck or both. Anyone who has *not*
snagged a trap at one time or another has not really been there.



Right, W'hine. "Nothing" can happen to your and yours. snerk