I like it. But others may have opinions based on more than this
video.

http://www.boattest.com/VLibrary/vPlay.aspx?ID=1216

--Vic

Vic Smith wrote in
:

http://www.boattest.com/VLibrary/vPlay.aspx?ID=1216

Damned spammer harvesting information. Why can't he just let you look at
it without all the crap?

On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 03:00:16 +0000, Larry wrote:

Vic Smith wrote in
:

http://www.boattest.com/VLibrary/vPlay.aspx?ID=1216

Damned spammer harvesting information. Why can't he just let you look at
it without all the crap?

He's not spamming. I went there voluntarily to get boat info, and
I'm not trying to sell Everglades boats here.
I thought his take on swamped boats needing an open transom to let
the water out was interesting, given conversations here about that.
He appears to be in agreement with Harry on that score.
The Everglades solution looks real interesting.
For those who don't want to bother watching the video,
the boat has an open transom, and what appears to be a solid splash
shield incorporates large doors/flaps that open aft only, allowing a
large volume of water to quickly exit.
Scuppers just won't do for a swamped boat, he says.
And I don't care to re-ignite all the open transom bs, but to point
to what I think is an innovative solution to swamping.
Those with more boating experience might think the solution
unnecessary, bad, or whatever. I don't know, and that's why
I posted it. Looks good to me. And it also looks like it would work
with the Parker splash shield, so as keep everybody happy.
Those who want quick exit of swamping water, and those who
are concerned about taking water over the stern.

--Vic

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 03:00:16 +0000, Larry wrote:

Vic Smith wrote in
m:

http://www.boattest.com/VLibrary/vPlay.aspx?ID=1216

Damned spammer harvesting information. Why can't he just let you look at
it without all the crap?

He's not spamming. I went there voluntarily to get boat info, and
I'm not trying to sell Everglades boats here.
I thought his take on swamped boats needing an open transom to let
the water out was interesting, given conversations here about that.
He appears to be in agreement with Harry on that score.
The Everglades solution looks real interesting.
For those who don't want to bother watching the video,
the boat has an open transom, and what appears to be a solid splash
shield incorporates large doors/flaps that open aft only, allowing a
large volume of water to quickly exit.
Scuppers just won't do for a swamped boat, he says.
And I don't care to re-ignite all the open transom bs, but to point
to what I think is an innovative solution to swamping.
Those with more boating experience might think the solution
unnecessary, bad, or whatever. I don't know, and that's why
I posted it. Looks good to me. And it also looks like it would work
with the Parker splash shield, so as keep everybody happy.
Those who want quick exit of swamping water, and those who
are concerned about taking water over the stern.

--Vic

Only problem is .... low transoms also let the water *in* sometimes. In
addition, you have to rely on having power to get it out quickly
..
We've teased Harry about his "low" transom, but for his boat and how and
where he uses it, it's fine.

My concern would be out in some rough water (where you shouldn't be in that
boat) and having engine problems.
Take a few over the transom and things could quickly get interesting.
Conditions like that can pop up unexpectedly in Cape Cod Bay. All it takes
is a nearby thunderstorm with some wind to create confused seas.

Eisboch

On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 13:25:02 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



Only problem is .... low transoms also let the water *in* sometimes. In
addition, you have to rely on having power to get it out quickly
.
I probably didn't explain it properly. What I called the "splash
shield" is actually called a transom in the video. The motor appears
to be mounted on a "motor transom" a bit back from it, but it's not...
Wait, I shouldn't have started this, because I know hardly anything
about boat design and terms.
Here's a picture and comments from a review.
http://www.sportfishingmag.com/boats...-cc-50091.html
(Larry, I'm not spamming)

"I really liked the fascinating design of the scuppers: four 2-inch
drains on centerline with a hinged lid for easy access to clear
detritus. Should you ever get water in this cockpit, it won't last
long. Add to that an innovative opening panel in the transom door
called a "freeing panel." Should you take green water over the
transom, it can readily escape through this hole in addition to
through the scuppers."

Anyway I thought the swamping comments and a look at the one-way doors
interesting when I watched the video.
I get the boattest.com e-mails and occasionally follow some links.
On second thought this setup has some space disadvantages.

--Vic


..

Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 03:00:16 +0000, Larry wrote:

Vic Smith wrote in
:

http://www.boattest.com/VLibrary/vPlay.aspx?ID=1216
Damned spammer harvesting information. Why can't he just let you look at
it without all the crap?

He's not spamming. I went there voluntarily to get boat info, and
I'm not trying to sell Everglades boats here.
I thought his take on swamped boats needing an open transom to let
the water out was interesting, given conversations here about that.
He appears to be in agreement with Harry on that score.
The Everglades solution looks real interesting.
For those who don't want to bother watching the video,
the boat has an open transom, and what appears to be a solid splash
shield incorporates large doors/flaps that open aft only, allowing a
large volume of water to quickly exit.
Scuppers just won't do for a swamped boat, he says.
And I don't care to re-ignite all the open transom bs, but to point
to what I think is an innovative solution to swamping.
Those with more boating experience might think the solution
unnecessary, bad, or whatever. I don't know, and that's why
I posted it. Looks good to me. And it also looks like it would work
with the Parker splash shield, so as keep everybody happy.
Those who want quick exit of swamping water, and those who
are concerned about taking water over the stern.

--Vic


Gosh, how dare a president of a boat company that builds top of the line
boats extol the virtues of open transom outboard boats and claim they
are much more able to shed large amounts of water that gets in the
cockpit than closed transom boats?

I mean, doesn't that fly in the face of all the bad advice offered up by
the non-experienced boaters here? :)

Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 13:25:02 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


Only problem is .... low transoms also let the water *in* sometimes. In
addition, you have to rely on having power to get it out quickly
.
I probably didn't explain it properly. What I called the "splash
shield" is actually called a transom in the video. The motor appears
to be mounted on a "motor transom" a bit back from it, but it's not...
Wait, I shouldn't have started this, because I know hardly anything
about boat design and terms.
Here's a picture and comments from a review.
http://www.sportfishingmag.com/boats...-cc-50091.html
(Larry, I'm not spamming)

"I really liked the fascinating design of the scuppers: four 2-inch
drains on centerline with a hinged lid for easy access to clear
detritus. Should you ever get water in this cockpit, it won't last
long. Add to that an innovative opening panel in the transom door
called a "freeing panel." Should you take green water over the
transom, it can readily escape through this hole in addition to
through the scuppers."

Anyway I thought the swamping comments and a look at the one-way doors
interesting when I watched the video.
I get the boattest.com e-mails and occasionally follow some links.
On second thought this setup has some space disadvantages.

--Vic


.


It's simple...if you take a greenie over the bow or the sides, a boat
with a transom like mine will shed that water a lot more quickly than a
boat with a closed transom.

I have no concerns about taking waves over the transom. In fact, I have
backed my Parker into some large wakes just to test my theory, that very
little water comes aboard.

Now, if I had a bubble boat, I'd be concerned, because the water will
flow quickly into that cave of a cabin below the deck and sink the boat.

"HK" wrote in message
...


It's simple...if you take a greenie over the bow or the sides, a boat with
a transom like mine will shed that water a lot more quickly than a boat
with a closed transom.



Not to get into hypotheticals, but assume my previous example for a moment.
Your are out there drift fishing in a bit of a chop, the wind suddenly picks
up due to a thunder boomer nearby, the seas start getting confused and you
start taking a few splashes over the transom.

You wisely decide it's time to head in, but, alas! That reliable Yamaha 4
stroke suddenly decided to have a bad computer day.
It won't start. The boat's starting to bounce around a bit, some of the
growing waves smacking into that transom. Your feet start getting wet ....
oh .... wait ... that's ok. You don't mind.

Point is, if you took a serious greenie over the transom for some reason,
don't you need power on to clear it "quickly"?

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

It's simple...if you take a greenie over the bow or the sides, a boat with
a transom like mine will shed that water a lot more quickly than a boat
with a closed transom.



Not to get into hypotheticals, but assume my previous example for a moment.
Your are out there drift fishing in a bit of a chop, the wind suddenly picks
up due to a thunder boomer nearby, the seas start getting confused and you
start taking a few splashes over the transom.

You wisely decide it's time to head in, but, alas! That reliable Yamaha 4
stroke suddenly decided to have a bad computer day.
It won't start. The boat's starting to bounce around a bit, some of the
growing waves smacking into that transom. Your feet start getting wet ....
oh .... wait ... that's ok. You don't mind.

Point is, if you took a serious greenie over the transom for some reason,
don't you need power on to clear it "quickly"?

Eisboch




That's why I have a Yamaha, and not an eTec! Instant power on. :)

Actually most of the time water rolls right out the *four* transom drains.

You guys seem to think that a 25" transom is...lower than a 25" transom.

"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

It's simple...if you take a greenie over the bow or the sides, a boat
with a transom like mine will shed that water a lot more quickly than a
boat with a closed transom.



Not to get into hypotheticals, but assume my previous example for a
moment. Your are out there drift fishing in a bit of a chop, the wind
suddenly picks up due to a thunder boomer nearby, the seas start getting
confused and you start taking a few splashes over the transom.

You wisely decide it's time to head in, but, alas! That reliable Yamaha
4 stroke suddenly decided to have a bad computer day.
It won't start. The boat's starting to bounce around a bit, some of the
growing waves smacking into that transom. Your feet start getting wet
.... oh .... wait ... that's ok. You don't mind.

Point is, if you took a serious greenie over the transom for some reason,
don't you need power on to clear it "quickly"?

Eisboch


That's why I have a Yamaha, and not an eTec! Instant power on. :)

Actually most of the time water rolls right out the *four* transom drains.

You guys seem to think that a 25" transom is...lower than a 25" transom.



Sorry. I was thinking of the transom cutout where the engine sits. What
is it's height to the waterline?

Eisboch