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Fuel economy of older jet boats
I've read that the jet boat's impeller system is about 30% less efficient
than a similarly powered outboard. Does that mean that a jet boat will get beat by an outboard, or just use more gas? I've got a Whaler Rage 14, and skipping along at 25-30mph it seems efficient when lightly loaded. It will go through 5 gallons of gas after several hours of mixed running, but I haven't done any extended runs that would allow me to measure the mpg. |
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Fuel economy of older jet boats
On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:15:19 -0400, "Floyd"
wrote: I've read that the jet boat's impeller system is about 30% less efficient than a similarly powered outboard. Does that mean that a jet boat will get beat by an outboard, or just use more gas? The jet will have a lower top speed. It will burn more fuel at any and all lower speeds. Casady |
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"Richard Casady" wrote in message ... On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:15:19 -0400, "Floyd" wrote: I've read that the jet boat's impeller system is about 30% less efficient than a similarly powered outboard. Does that mean that a jet boat will get beat by an outboard, or just use more gas? The jet will have a lower top speed. It will burn more fuel at any and all lower speeds. Casady It will burn more fuel. May or may not be faster. There are different type pumps. There are axial flow, low pressure pumps that are slower speed, but handle white water better at reloading up after losing intake water, and there are the high pressure pumps that are faster. Kodiak and Hamilton are examples of the first, Berkeley and American Turbine are examples of the second. Jet ski pumps are probably the most inefficient of all the pump designs. Small engine and high RPM's trying to move lots of water through a small impeller pump. The newer Hamilton 212's etc are about 95% efficiency of props. |
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On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 15:19:27 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote: "Richard Casady" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:15:19 -0400, "Floyd" wrote: I've read that the jet boat's impeller system is about 30% less efficient than a similarly powered outboard. Does that mean that a jet boat will get beat by an outboard, or just use more gas? The jet will have a lower top speed. It will burn more fuel at any and all lower speeds. Casady It will burn more fuel. May or may not be faster. There are different type pumps. There are axial flow, low pressure pumps that are slower speed, but handle white water better at reloading up after losing intake water, and there are the high pressure pumps that are faster. Kodiak and Hamilton are examples of the first, Berkeley and American Turbine are examples of the second. Jet ski pumps are probably the most inefficient of all the pump designs. Small engine and high RPM's trying to move lots of water through a small impeller pump. The newer Hamilton 212's etc are about 95% efficiency of props. Our Turbocraft is axial flow, and in fifty years has never sucked air into the intake. Weeds once. Once the ski tow rope. Had to turn the engine and pump backwards, with a pipe wrench on the driveshaft, to get it out. The pump is a licenced copy of a [New Zealand] Hamilton. Casady |
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"Richard Casady" wrote in message ... On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 15:19:27 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Richard Casady" wrote in message . .. On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:15:19 -0400, "Floyd" wrote: I've read that the jet boat's impeller system is about 30% less efficient than a similarly powered outboard. Does that mean that a jet boat will get beat by an outboard, or just use more gas? The jet will have a lower top speed. It will burn more fuel at any and all lower speeds. Casady It will burn more fuel. May or may not be faster. There are different type pumps. There are axial flow, low pressure pumps that are slower speed, but handle white water better at reloading up after losing intake water, and there are the high pressure pumps that are faster. Kodiak and Hamilton are examples of the first, Berkeley and American Turbine are examples of the second. Jet ski pumps are probably the most inefficient of all the pump designs. Small engine and high RPM's trying to move lots of water through a small impeller pump. The newer Hamilton 212's etc are about 95% efficiency of props. Our Turbocraft is axial flow, and in fifty years has never sucked air into the intake. Weeds once. Once the ski tow rope. Had to turn the engine and pump backwards, with a pipe wrench on the driveshaft, to get it out. The pump is a licenced copy of a [New Zealand] Hamilton. Casady Mine is a Kodiak 3 stage that is a licensed copy of an older hamilton. I have sucked weeds several times and sticks a couple times. Does not take much of a stick stuck in the impeller to cause cavitation. Makes me think a lot of prop boats with small dings in the prop are effecting performance huge amounts. |
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"Calif Bill" wrote in
m: Mine is a Kodiak 3 stage that is a licensed copy of an older hamilton. I have sucked weeds several times and sticks a couple times. Does not take much of a stick stuck in the impeller to cause cavitation. Makes me think a lot of prop boats with small dings in the prop are effecting performance huge amounts. Jetboat Economy.....ha ha ha....you guys are too funny! Isn't that an oxymoron?? |
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"Larry" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in m: Mine is a Kodiak 3 stage that is a licensed copy of an older hamilton. I have sucked weeds several times and sticks a couple times. Does not take much of a stick stuck in the impeller to cause cavitation. Makes me think a lot of prop boats with small dings in the prop are effecting performance huge amounts. Jetboat Economy.....ha ha ha....you guys are too funny! Isn't that an oxymoron?? I did not buy an aluminum jetboat for the economy. I bought it to run shallow and tree filled rivers. Better economy than a jetski. My 351W engine got me about 2 mpg, 3400# 21' boat. The newer 5.7L mpi gets better, but have not really checked on the mpg yet. |
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