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a thread trashing us had been allowed to go on for days while the thread origionator was also over here calling us names. Remember, this is the same monitor that asked me not to mention "other groups" (not even by name) here in our forum.. I have to admit, I am pretty ****ed off and especially dissappointed in all those folks I thought were friends who seem to have thrown me under the bus as it were. I have to question the character of folks who have stood back and not said anything when they can not be missing the hyprocracy, kind of like another pet peeve of mine;) |
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On May 17, 12:46*pm, HK wrote:
wrote: I have now been banned from the other group after one post, asking why a thread trashing us had been allowed to go on for days while the thread origionator was also over here calling us names. Remember, this is the same monitor that asked me not to mention "other groups" (not even by name) here in our forum.. I have to admit, I am pretty ****ed off and especially dissappointed in all those folks I thought were friends who seem to have thrown me under the bus as it were. I have to question the character of folks who have stood back and not said anything when they can not be missing the hyprocracy, kind of like another pet peeve of mine;) When you are an adult and a guest in someone else's house and there are rules posted, it pays to pay attention to them. In my house or on my boats, no smoking is allowed, excessive drinking is not allowed, use of illegal drugs is not allowed, and in general, really obnoxious behavior is not allowed. If you cannot live by the simple rules of the household, you should either not visit or you should expect to be escorted to the door or the dock. The proprietor of "the other group" has simple rules posted, and he has repeated them in several forums. You apparently did not believe they applied to you. Unfortunately, "rec.boats" has no rules. fortunately, wrecked boats has no rulers.... |
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"HK" wrote in message ... wrote: and in general, really obnoxious behavior is not allowed. If you cannot live by the simple rules of the household, you should either not visit or you should expect to be escorted to the door or the dock. So. You are banned from your own boat? |
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On May 17, 1:04*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... wrote: *and in general, really obnoxious behavior is not allowed. If you cannot live by the simple rules of the household, you should either not visit or you should expect to be escorted to the door or the dock. So. You are banned from your own boat? I will not continue this further, I just thought it was important for those of us left, or those who would not hear due to censorship to know.. That's all. It's really not that important in the scope of things, but for those of us who have been here, some nearly a decade, it is very interesting...... But that is all I have to say to anyone on line about it... Later.. Scotty |
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On May 17, 9:06�am, wrote:
I have now been banned from the other group after one post, asking why a thread trashing us had been allowed to go on for days while the thread origionator was also over here calling us names. Remember, this is the same monitor that asked me not to mention "other groups" (not even by name) here in our forum.. I have to admit, I am pretty ****ed off and especially dissappointed in all those folks I thought were friends who seem to have thrown me under the bus as it were. I have to question the character of folks who have stood back and not said anything when they can not be missing the hyprocracy, kind of like another pet peeve of mine;) ************* Something told me you would make an issue of this on rec.boats. Didn't take long for you to air your own dirty laundry, did it? Why do you think that anybody on this board gives a rip what happens in another group? Only because you choose to misrepresnt some important facts will I waste any time rebutting you assertions. ******** So here you are, crying to another discussion group that after becoming a member of a different forum and making one post that flagrantly violated the clearly stated conventions against personal attacks, etc, you were tossed out on your arse. You should be neither surprised nor outraged, you got exactly the result you were trolling for. Congrats. Now you can whine endlessly that the big bad moderator at some other group threw innocent little you into the gutter but continues to tolerate the presence of folks who have posted disruptive content to other boards, elsewhere on the net, in the past. You seem to believe that the mere presence on another forum of people with checkered posting histories elsewhere is hypocritical within the context of a "monitored" (actually, the correct term is "moderated") group. Here's the important functional difference; the other discussion group you refer to doesn't moderate past behavior, it moderates the present. The folks you seem to have such negative passion for have, in the largest sense, conducted themselves on the other board in a civil and polite manner. The moderator's job isn't to be some sort of "nanny" and head off every minor disagreement, but merely to keep the general discourse relatively civil and free of personal attacks. We strive to disagree without becoming personally disagreeable. Why are you so obsessed with trying to start trouble between rec.boats and another discussion group? Get over it. There is no reason to be "****ed". Your "friends" haven't "thrown you under the bus" by posting elsewhere, they are obviously free to post here (as am I) if they choose to do so. I can't imagine that anybody choosing one group over the other is doing so because Scottie posts to rec.boats. Your troll characterized the thread as filled with name calling directed at individuals within rec.boats. Nonsense. It is a very long thread. One post condemned an unidentified group apparently intent on destroying rec.boats with OT trolls as "snarks", and there are many, many posts thereafter from various members encouraging one another not to even mention rec.boats in the forum. The "snark" post was questionable, but the response and overall tone of the thread was constructive and nothing in the thread prior to your appearance was anything close to as negative and nasty as the tone you adopted or the personal attack content you posted. Except for your vicious little jab, the rest of the thread is standing for anybody and everybody to see. Both people here who might be able to stifle a yawn long enough and would otherwise care to check out the tread in question will find it in the "Scraping the Bottom of the Barrel" (OT) classification of the forum you trolled. Does it bother you at all to misrepresent the nature, content, and tone of the thread you were bitching about or the post that got you 86'd? (Apparently not). If you were looking for an example of the kind of behavior that certain boards won't tolerate- you found it. You ended your vicious little troll with "I won't be back!" Get out your red crayon and draw a circle around today's date on the calendar, Scottie. Remember that as the first time we ever agreed on anything. Should you try to sneak back in and attempt to stir up further trouble, you will find that it takes a lot more than a new "handle". I'm going back over to where the actual boaters hang out. As always, the welcome mat is out over there for anybody who wants to talk about *boats* (not other boaters), or who can participate in the OT section of the forum without making personal attacks on other posters. Good news for you, Scottie- anybody who left this group for the other forum and who repeats your oscar-winning trolling performance of earlier today will be back here to join you. (We moderate the present behavior within the forum, not past behavior somewhere else). |
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On May 17, 1:22Â*pm, Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 17, 9:06�am, wrote: I have now been banned from the other group after one post, asking why a thread trashing us had been allowed to go on for days while the thread origionator was also over here calling us names. Remember, this is the same monitor that asked me not to mention "other groups" (not even by name) here in our forum.. I have to admit, I am pretty ****ed off and especially dissappointed in all those folks I thought were friends who seem to have thrown me under the bus as it were. I have to question the character of folks who have stood back and not said anything when they can not be missing the hyprocracy, kind of like another pet peeve of mine;) ************* Something told me you would make an issue of this on rec.boats. Â*Didn't take long for you to air your own dirty laundry, did it? Why do you think that anybody on this board gives a rip what happens in another group? Only because you choose to misrepresnt some important facts will I waste any time rebutting you assertions. ******** So here you are, crying to another discussion group that after becoming a member of a different forum and making one post that flagrantly violated the clearly stated conventions against personal attacks, etc, you were tossed out on your arse. You should be neither surprised nor outraged, you got exactly the result you were trolling for. Congrats. Now you can whine endlessly that the big bad moderator at some other group threw innocent little you into the gutter but continues to tolerate the presence of folks who have posted disruptive content to other boards, elsewhere on the net, in the past. You seem to believe that the mere presence on another forum of people with checkered posting histories elsewhere is hypocritical within the context of a "monitored" (actually, the correct term is "moderated") group. Here's the important functional difference; the other discussion group you refer to doesn't moderate past behavior, it moderates the present. The folks you seem to have such negative passion for have, in the largest sense, conducted themselves on the other board in a civil and polite manner. The moderator's job isn't to be some sort of "nanny" and head off every minor disagreement, but merely to keep the general discourse relatively civil and free of personal attacks. We strive to disagree without becoming personally disagreeable. Why are you so obsessed with trying to start trouble between rec.boats and another discussion group? Get over it. There is no reason to be "****ed". Your "friends" haven't "thrown you under the bus" by posting elsewhere, they are obviously free to post here (as am I) if they choose to do so. I can't imagine that anybody choosing one group over the other is doing so because Scottie posts to rec.boats. Your troll characterized the thread as filled with name calling directed at individuals within rec.boats. Nonsense. It is a very long thread. One post condemned an unidentified group apparently intent on destroying rec.boats with OT trolls as "snarks", and there are many, many posts thereafter from various members encouraging one another not to even mention rec.boats in the forum. The "snark" post was questionable, but the response and overall tone of the thread was constructive and nothing in the thread prior to your appearance was anything close to as negative and nasty as the tone you adopted or the personal attack content you posted. Except for your vicious little jab, the rest of the thread is standing for anybody and everybody to see. Both people here who might be able to stifle a yawn long enough and would otherwise care to check out the tread in question will find it in the "Scraping the Bottom of the Barrel" (OT) classification of the forum you trolled. Does it bother you at all to misrepresent the nature, content, and tone of the thread you were bitching about or the post that got you 86'd? (Apparently not). If you were looking for an example of the kind of behavior that certain boards won't tolerate- you found it. You ended your vicious little troll with "I won't be back!" Get out your red crayon and draw a circle around today's date on the calendar, Scottie. Remember that as the first time we ever agreed on anything. Should you try to sneak back in and attempt to stir up further trouble, you will find that it takes a lot more than a new "handle". I'm going back over to where the actual boaters hang out. As always, the welcome mat is out over there for anybody who wants to talk about *boats* (not other boaters), or who can participate in the OT section of the forum without making personal attacks on other posters. Good news for you, Scottie- anybody who left this group for the other forum and who repeats your oscar-winning trolling performance of earlier today will be back here to join you. (We moderate the present behavior within the forum, not past behavior somewhere else). Whatever chuck, you asked me to stop something here, you allowed on your own board, justify it any way you want. The post you found offensive here of mine did not even mention the name of any group, then you let a thread go on your site directly addressing and calling us names. It's all good Chuck, it's all good.. And as far as my lifetime ban, don't tempt me, I have been in the business for a loooooooong time. You are a hypocrite, nothing has changed... |
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Response removed.. forget it Chuck. go back to the "actual boaters"...
can't really get the boat in yet this year so I guess I'll just stick around and see what comes up here... ,,|,, ;) |
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On Sat, 17 May 2008 10:22:28 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Gould
wrote: Why are you so obsessed with trying to start trouble between rec.boats and another discussion group? This is about the most hypocritical, one-way question I've seen in my life. Have you ever wondered, Chuck, why some of the 'nice' folks in your group persist in coming over here to start trouble? What a ridiculous question! -- John *H* |
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On May 17, 6:22*pm, (Richard Casady)
wrote: On Sat, 17 May 2008 09:06:49 -0700 (PDT), wrote: [Snippo] That's tough **** and you will get no sympathy at wreckboats. We all know you richly deserved it. We can always tell by the whining, the ****ing and the moaning. If you can't take a joke carry a crying towel and be quiet. Casady On the contrary. Several here on and off line get the point. Argueably it is a valid point to any thinking observer of the cast of characters who has been here (wrecked boats) as long as you have, even if they don't agree with me. Your disagreement, or failure to understand my point of view, does not make it any less valid. But you can slap me around here a little if it makes you feel good... don't remember ever taking a cheap shot at you, but maybe I did. Anyway, you go boy, sorry to have wasted your bandwidth.... |
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On Sat, 17 May 2008 19:35:51 -0400, HK wrote:
wrote: On May 17, 6:22 pm, (Richard Casady) wrote: On Sat, 17 May 2008 09:06:49 -0700 (PDT), wrote: [Snippo] That's tough **** and you will get no sympathy at wreckboats. We all know you richly deserved it. We can always tell by the whining, the ****ing and the moaning. If you can't take a joke carry a crying towel and be quiet. Casady On the contrary. Several here on and off line get the point. Argueably it is a valid point to any thinking observer of the cast of characters who has been here (wrecked boats) as long as you have, even if they don't agree with me. Your disagreement, or failure to understand my point of view, does not make it any less valid. But you can slap me around here a little if it makes you feel good... don't remember ever taking a cheap shot at you, but maybe I did. Anyway, you go boy, sorry to have wasted your bandwidth.... You seem confused, Scott. You were "banned" precisely for the reasons Chuck stated here. It had nothing to do with anything other than the really obnoxious post you put up. I told you earlier today that Chuck had reasonable and posted rules of behavior, and that you chose to violate a number of them and and then end your post with a taunt. What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Unless Vegas is Chuck's Place. Stay away, Harry. You're not wanted. This is a pile of ****, remember? -- John *H* |
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John H. wrote:
On Sat, 17 May 2008 20:51:08 -0400, DK wrote: HK wrote: wrote: I have now been banned from the other group after one post, asking why a thread trashing us had been allowed to go on for days while the thread origionator was also over here calling us names. Remember, this is the same monitor that asked me not to mention "other groups" (not even by name) here in our forum.. I have to admit, I am pretty ****ed off and especially dissappointed in all those folks I thought were friends who seem to have thrown me under the bus as it were. I have to question the character of folks who have stood back and not said anything when they can not be missing the hyprocracy, kind of like another pet peeve of mine;) When you are an adult and a guest in someone else's house and there are rules posted, it pays to pay attention to them. In my house or on my boats, no smoking is allowed, excessive drinking is not allowed, use of illegal drugs is not allowed, and in general, really obnoxious behavior is not allowed. If you cannot live by the simple rules of the household, you should either not visit or you should expect to be escorted to the door or the dock. The proprietor of "the other group" has simple rules posted, and he has repeated them in several forums. You apparently did not believe they applied to you. Unfortunately, "rec.boats" has no rules. It is unfortunate to a certain degree. You would have been banned a long time ago. If it's any consolation, JimH is sending me personal messages (in Chuck's Place) telling me what a bad boy I am. Post them here. The three amigos/douche bags an not immune to responsibility for their lame actions. |
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On May 17, 9:01*pm, DK wrote:
John H. wrote: On Sat, 17 May 2008 20:51:08 -0400, DK wrote: HK wrote: wrote: I have now been banned from the other group after one post, asking why a thread trashing us had been allowed to go on for days while the thread origionator was also over here calling us names. Remember, this is the same monitor that asked me not to mention "other groups" (not even by name) here in our forum.. I have to admit, I am pretty ****ed off and especially dissappointed in all those folks I thought were friends who seem to have thrown me under the bus as it were. I have to question the character of folks who have stood back and not said anything when they can not be missing the hyprocracy, kind of like another pet peeve of mine;) When you are an adult and a guest in someone else's house and there are rules posted, it pays to pay attention to them. In my house or on my boats, no smoking is allowed, excessive drinking is not allowed, use of illegal drugs is not allowed, and in general, really obnoxious behavior is not allowed. If you cannot live by the simple rules of the household, you should either not visit or you should expect to be escorted to the door or the dock. The proprietor of "the other group" has simple rules posted, and he has repeated them in several forums. You apparently did not believe they applied to you. Unfortunately, "rec.boats" has no rules. It is unfortunate to a certain degree. *You would have been banned a long time ago. If it's any consolation, JimH is sending me personal messages (in Chuck's Place) telling me what a bad boy I am. Post them here. *The three amigos/douche bags an not immune to responsibility for their lame actions.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Naw, we should just let it die now that my observations and opinions have been pretty much confirmed.. Anyway, back to the nice wreckedboats we were enjoying before I read that thread.... |
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On Sat, 17 May 2008 21:01:26 -0400, DK wrote:
John H. wrote: On Sat, 17 May 2008 20:51:08 -0400, DK wrote: HK wrote: wrote: I have now been banned from the other group after one post, asking why a thread trashing us had been allowed to go on for days while the thread origionator was also over here calling us names. Remember, this is the same monitor that asked me not to mention "other groups" (not even by name) here in our forum.. I have to admit, I am pretty ****ed off and especially dissappointed in all those folks I thought were friends who seem to have thrown me under the bus as it were. I have to question the character of folks who have stood back and not said anything when they can not be missing the hyprocracy, kind of like another pet peeve of mine;) When you are an adult and a guest in someone else's house and there are rules posted, it pays to pay attention to them. In my house or on my boats, no smoking is allowed, excessive drinking is not allowed, use of illegal drugs is not allowed, and in general, really obnoxious behavior is not allowed. If you cannot live by the simple rules of the household, you should either not visit or you should expect to be escorted to the door or the dock. The proprietor of "the other group" has simple rules posted, and he has repeated them in several forums. You apparently did not believe they applied to you. Unfortunately, "rec.boats" has no rules. It is unfortunate to a certain degree. You would have been banned a long time ago. If it's any consolation, JimH is sending me personal messages (in Chuck's Place) telling me what a bad boy I am. Post them here. The three amigos/douche bags an not immune to responsibility for their lame actions. Not worth it. Besides, he'll probably come chasing over here like his hero. -- John *H* |
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JimH wrote:
"DK" wrote in message ... John H. wrote: On Sat, 17 May 2008 20:51:08 -0400, DK wrote: HK wrote: wrote: I have now been banned from the other group after one post, asking why a thread trashing us had been allowed to go on for days while the thread origionator was also over here calling us names. Remember, this is the same monitor that asked me not to mention "other groups" (not even by name) here in our forum.. I have to admit, I am pretty ****ed off and especially dissappointed in all those folks I thought were friends who seem to have thrown me under the bus as it were. I have to question the character of folks who have stood back and not said anything when they can not be missing the hyprocracy, kind of like another pet peeve of mine;) When you are an adult and a guest in someone else's house and there are rules posted, it pays to pay attention to them. In my house or on my boats, no smoking is allowed, excessive drinking is not allowed, use of illegal drugs is not allowed, and in general, really obnoxious behavior is not allowed. If you cannot live by the simple rules of the household, you should either not visit or you should expect to be escorted to the door or the dock. The proprietor of "the other group" has simple rules posted, and he has repeated them in several forums. You apparently did not believe they applied to you. Unfortunately, "rec.boats" has no rules. It is unfortunate to a certain degree. You would have been banned a long time ago. If it's any consolation, JimH is sending me personal messages (in Chuck's Place) telling me what a bad boy I am. Post them here. The three amigos/douche bags an not immune to responsibility for their lame actions. JohnH has a habit of posting personal messages (note the word personal) sent to him on this NG. In this case I have no problem with him doing so................post away Herring. #1 What makes you think I was referring to you? Guilty as charged??? #2 What do *you* have to hide? #3 Why are you still posting here? |
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JimH wrote:
"DK" wrote in message ... HK wrote: wrote: I have now been banned from the other group after one post, asking why a thread trashing us had been allowed to go on for days while the thread origionator was also over here calling us names. Remember, this is the same monitor that asked me not to mention "other groups" (not even by name) here in our forum.. I have to admit, I am pretty ****ed off and especially dissappointed in all those folks I thought were friends who seem to have thrown me under the bus as it were. I have to question the character of folks who have stood back and not said anything when they can not be missing the hyprocracy, kind of like another pet peeve of mine;) When you are an adult and a guest in someone else's house and there are rules posted, it pays to pay attention to them. In my house or on my boats, no smoking is allowed, excessive drinking is not allowed, use of illegal drugs is not allowed, and in general, really obnoxious behavior is not allowed. If you cannot live by the simple rules of the household, you should either not visit or you should expect to be escorted to the door or the dock. The proprietor of "the other group" has simple rules posted, and he has repeated them in several forums. You apparently did not believe they applied to you. Unfortunately, "rec.boats" has no rules. It is unfortunate to a certain degree. You would have been banned a long time ago. This thread is hysterical! Pass the popcorn please. Add yourself to the list. You have also been pushing the envelope at Chuck's place. It's only a matter of time before you self-destruct. |
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On Sat, 17 May 2008 21:05:14 -0400, "JimH" wrote:
"DK" wrote in message m... HK wrote: wrote: I have now been banned from the other group after one post, asking why a thread trashing us had been allowed to go on for days while the thread origionator was also over here calling us names. Remember, this is the same monitor that asked me not to mention "other groups" (not even by name) here in our forum.. I have to admit, I am pretty ****ed off and especially dissappointed in all those folks I thought were friends who seem to have thrown me under the bus as it were. I have to question the character of folks who have stood back and not said anything when they can not be missing the hyprocracy, kind of like another pet peeve of mine;) When you are an adult and a guest in someone else's house and there are rules posted, it pays to pay attention to them. In my house or on my boats, no smoking is allowed, excessive drinking is not allowed, use of illegal drugs is not allowed, and in general, really obnoxious behavior is not allowed. If you cannot live by the simple rules of the household, you should either not visit or you should expect to be escorted to the door or the dock. The proprietor of "the other group" has simple rules posted, and he has repeated them in several forums. You apparently did not believe they applied to you. Unfortunately, "rec.boats" has no rules. It is unfortunate to a certain degree. You would have been banned a long time ago. This thread is hysterical! Pass the popcorn please. Hertvik, is it true you've been diagnosed with neurosyphilis, or is that just a rumor going around? -- John *H* |
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On May 17, 9:24*pm, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 17 May 2008 18:12:24 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On May 17, 9:01*pm, DK wrote: John H. wrote: On Sat, 17 May 2008 20:51:08 -0400, DK wrote: HK wrote: wrote: I have now been banned from the other group after one post, asking why a thread trashing us had been allowed to go on for days while the thread origionator was also over here calling us names. Remember, this is the same monitor that asked me not to mention "other groups" (not even by name) here in our forum.. I have to admit, I am pretty ****ed off and especially dissappointed in all those folks I thought were friends who seem to have thrown me under the bus as it were. I have to question the character of folks who have stood back and not said anything when they can not be missing the hyprocracy, kind of like another pet peeve of mine;) When you are an adult and a guest in someone else's house and there are rules posted, it pays to pay attention to them. In my house or on my boats, no smoking is allowed, excessive drinking is not allowed, use of illegal drugs is not allowed, and in general, really obnoxious behavior is not allowed. If you cannot live by the simple rules of the household, you should either not visit or you should expect to be escorted to the door or the dock. The proprietor of "the other group" has simple rules posted, and he has repeated them in several forums. You apparently did not believe they applied to you. Unfortunately, "rec.boats" has no rules. It is unfortunate to a certain degree. *You would have been banned a long time ago. If it's any consolation, JimH is sending me personal messages (in Chuck's Place) telling me what a bad boy I am. Post them here. *The three amigos/douche bags an not immune to responsibility for their lame actions.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Naw, we should just let it die now that my observations and opinions have been pretty much confirmed.. Anyway, back to the nice wreckedboats we were enjoying before I read that thread.... You are, of course, correct. All of this is not helping either group (especially this one), and I'm not very innocent! -- John *H*- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I logged into the group tonight to see how it was all handled there. My post was of course gone, but the namecalling and such that followed, directed at us/me continues still.. My friends would have never stood for that, I am learning quite a lot here about them. All in all I guess it has been good in a way.. Although I did loose a decent sailboat over it all...;( |
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wrote in message ... On May 17, 6:22 pm, (Richard Casady) wrote: On Sat, 17 May 2008 09:06:49 -0700 (PDT), wrote: [Snippo] That's tough **** and you will get no sympathy at wreckboats. We all know you richly deserved it. We can always tell by the whining, the ****ing and the moaning. If you can't take a joke carry a crying towel and be quiet. Casady On the contrary. Several here on and off line get the point. Argueably it is a valid point to any thinking observer of the cast of characters who has been here (wrecked boats) as long as you have, even if they don't agree with me. Your disagreement, or failure to understand my point of view, does not make it any less valid. But you can slap me around here a little if it makes you feel good... don't remember ever taking a cheap shot at you, but maybe I did. Anyway, you go boy, sorry to have wasted your bandwidth.... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm sorry you got into this situation Scotty, as I always felt you had good and interesting contributions to make. I hope you aren't being influenced and thus judged by the 'company' you keep lately. |
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On May 17, 10:28*pm, "Don White" wrote:
wrote in message ... On May 17, 6:22 pm, (Richard Casady) wrote: On Sat, 17 May 2008 09:06:49 -0700 (PDT), wrote: [Snippo] That's tough **** and you will get no sympathy at wreckboats. We all know you richly deserved it. We can always tell by the whining, the ****ing and the moaning. If you can't take a joke carry a crying towel and be quiet. Casady On the contrary. Several here on and off line get the point. Argueably it is a valid point to any thinking observer of the cast of characters who has been here (wrecked boats) as long as you have, even if they don't agree with me. Your disagreement, or failure to understand my point of view, does not make it any less valid. But you can slap me around here a little if it makes you feel good... don't remember ever taking a cheap shot at you, but maybe I did. Anyway, you go boy, sorry to have wasted your bandwidth.... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------*-------------------- I'm sorry you got into this situation Scotty, as I always felt you had good and interesting contributions to make. I hope you aren't being influenced and thus judged by the 'company' you keep lately. I am being judged because I won't hold my nose just to be where everyone else is. Any one of a hundred other posters here could have started a group and I would have been on board, but anybody who has been here as long as I know that inevedibly this new "monitor" is not someone known for having the capacity to be "moderate" at all. Certainly I have personally been victim to his selective internet policing here at rec.boats more times over the years than I can count as have many of you. If you want to participate in a group where posters are subject to selective enforcement, so be it. I will leave the name calling to them. That is all that is left of me over there. A quick visit tells me that although my post is gone, the pigpile of back pats continues, with the final post coming down to the standard insults focused on my grammar and spelling. Same old, same old.. Just with Chuck and Harry running the show;) now that is scarey...;) For those of us who are still here, you should go over and just check out the roster and some of the posters who you never thought would stand for all of that. At the same time, if they really got it, they might just be stuck here with us too;) I swear it has something to do with boatshoes;) Good to see you checking in though, how is that little Skiff working out, is it wet yet this year? By for now.. |
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On May 17, 11:11*pm, HK wrote:
wrote: On May 17, 10:28 pm, "Don White" wrote: wrote in message .... On May 17, 6:22 pm, (Richard Casady) wrote: On Sat, 17 May 2008 09:06:49 -0700 (PDT), wrote: [Snippo] That's tough **** and you will get no sympathy at wreckboats. We all know you richly deserved it. We can always tell by the whining, the ****ing and the moaning. If you can't take a joke carry a crying towel and be quiet. Casady On the contrary. Several here on and off line get the point. Argueably it is a valid point to any thinking observer of the cast of characters who has been here (wrecked boats) as long as you have, even if they don't agree with me. Your disagreement, or failure to understand my point of view, does not make it any less valid. But you can slap me around here a little if it makes you feel good... don't remember ever taking a cheap shot at you, but maybe I did. Anyway, you go boy, sorry to have wasted your bandwidth.... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------**-------------------- I'm sorry you got into this situation Scotty, as I always felt you had good and interesting contributions to make. I hope you aren't being influenced and thus judged by the 'company' you keep lately. I am being judged because I won't hold my nose just to be where everyone else is. Any one of a hundred other posters here could have started a group and I would have been on board, but anybody who has been here as long as I know that inevedibly this new "monitor" is not someone known for having the capacity to be "moderate" at all. Certainly I have personally been victim to his selective internet policing here at rec.boats more times over the years than I can count as have many of you. If you want to participate in a group where posters are subject to selective enforcement, so be it. I will leave the name calling to them. That is all that is left of me over there. A quick visit tells me that although my post is gone, the pigpile of back pats continues, with the final post coming down to the standard insults focused on my grammar and spelling. Same old, same old.. Just with Chuck and Harry running the show;) * * *now that is scarey...;) For those of us who are still here, you should go over and just check out the roster and some of the posters who you never thought would stand for all of that. At the same time, if they really got it, they might just be stuck here with us too;) I swear it has something to do with boatshoes;) Good to see you checking in though, how is that little Skiff working out, is it wet yet this year? By for now.. D'oh. I'm not running anything at the other place. I'm just someone who read the rules, signed up and post. You were "judged" not for the excuses you are offering up here, but because your post went way over the line, violated the rules you agreed to abide by and because you taunted the moderator into killfiling your account. Everything you have posted about the incident is nothing more than rationalization. There are many reasons why some posters find the atmosphere at the other place more pleasant than it is here. I like it because photos of interest can be posted directly, and because I can avoid even *seeing* posts relating to other peoples' grandchildren, bad amateur guitar playing, diaperboat cruises, home-brewed beer, NASCAR, nonsensical comments about computer operating systems, and the rest of the flotsam and jetsam that passes for "rec.boats" these days. Hey...this is *your* newsgroup and the newsgroup of your buddies here. I just pop in on occasion for the giggles.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You need some new material... |
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On May 17, 11:11*pm, HK wrote:
wrote: On May 17, 10:28 pm, "Don White" wrote: wrote in message .... On May 17, 6:22 pm, (Richard Casady) wrote: On Sat, 17 May 2008 09:06:49 -0700 (PDT), wrote: [Snippo] That's tough **** and you will get no sympathy at wreckboats. We all know you richly deserved it. We can always tell by the whining, the ****ing and the moaning. If you can't take a joke carry a crying towel and be quiet. Casady On the contrary. Several here on and off line get the point. Argueably it is a valid point to any thinking observer of the cast of characters who has been here (wrecked boats) as long as you have, even if they don't agree with me. Your disagreement, or failure to understand my point of view, does not make it any less valid. But you can slap me around here a little if it makes you feel good... don't remember ever taking a cheap shot at you, but maybe I did. Anyway, you go boy, sorry to have wasted your bandwidth.... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------**-------------------- I'm sorry you got into this situation Scotty, as I always felt you had good and interesting contributions to make. I hope you aren't being influenced and thus judged by the 'company' you keep lately. I am being judged because I won't hold my nose just to be where everyone else is. Any one of a hundred other posters here could have started a group and I would have been on board, but anybody who has been here as long as I know that inevedibly this new "monitor" is not someone known for having the capacity to be "moderate" at all. Certainly I have personally been victim to his selective internet policing here at rec.boats more times over the years than I can count as have many of you. If you want to participate in a group where posters are subject to selective enforcement, so be it. I will leave the name calling to them. That is all that is left of me over there. A quick visit tells me that although my post is gone, the pigpile of back pats continues, with the final post coming down to the standard insults focused on my grammar and spelling. Same old, same old.. Just with Chuck and Harry running the show;) * * *now that is scarey...;) For those of us who are still here, you should go over and just check out the roster and some of the posters who you never thought would stand for all of that. At the same time, if they really got it, they might just be stuck here with us too;) I swear it has something to do with boatshoes;) Good to see you checking in though, how is that little Skiff working out, is it wet yet this year? By for now.. D'oh. I'm not running anything at the other place. I'm just someone who read the rules, signed up and post. You were "judged" not for the excuses you are offering up here, but because your post went way over the line, violated the rules you agreed to abide by and because you taunted the moderator into killfiling your account. Everything you have posted about the incident is nothing more than rationalization. There are many reasons why some posters find the atmosphere at the other place more pleasant than it is here. I like it because photos of interest can be posted directly, and because I can avoid even *seeing* posts relating to other peoples' grandchildren, bad amateur guitar playing, diaperboat cruises, home-brewed beer, NASCAR, nonsensical comments about computer operating systems, and the rest of the flotsam and jetsam that passes for "rec.boats" these days. Hey...this is *your* newsgroup and the newsgroup of your buddies here. I just pop in on occasion for the giggles.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Not to mention, you are over there in your troll thread, lying about circumstances and situations over here, you are dismissed Harry, plonk |
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I go over *there* for giggles... that thread is a crack-up. --Mike wrote in message ... On May 17, 11:11 pm, HK wrote: wrote: On May 17, 10:28 pm, "Don White" wrote: wrote in message ... On May 17, 6:22 pm, (Richard Casady) wrote: On Sat, 17 May 2008 09:06:49 -0700 (PDT), wrote: [Snippo] That's tough **** and you will get no sympathy at wreckboats. We all know you richly deserved it. We can always tell by the whining, the ****ing and the moaning. If you can't take a joke carry a crying towel and be quiet. Casady On the contrary. Several here on and off line get the point. Argueably it is a valid point to any thinking observer of the cast of characters who has been here (wrecked boats) as long as you have, even if they don't agree with me. Your disagreement, or failure to understand my point of view, does not make it any less valid. But you can slap me around here a little if it makes you feel good... don't remember ever taking a cheap shot at you, but maybe I did. Anyway, you go boy, sorry to have wasted your bandwidth.... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------**-------------------- I'm sorry you got into this situation Scotty, as I always felt you had good and interesting contributions to make. I hope you aren't being influenced and thus judged by the 'company' you keep lately. I am being judged because I won't hold my nose just to be where everyone else is. Any one of a hundred other posters here could have started a group and I would have been on board, but anybody who has been here as long as I know that inevedibly this new "monitor" is not someone known for having the capacity to be "moderate" at all. Certainly I have personally been victim to his selective internet policing here at rec.boats more times over the years than I can count as have many of you. If you want to participate in a group where posters are subject to selective enforcement, so be it. I will leave the name calling to them. That is all that is left of me over there. A quick visit tells me that although my post is gone, the pigpile of back pats continues, with the final post coming down to the standard insults focused on my grammar and spelling. Same old, same old.. Just with Chuck and Harry running the show;) now that is scarey...;) For those of us who are still here, you should go over and just check out the roster and some of the posters who you never thought would stand for all of that. At the same time, if they really got it, they might just be stuck here with us too;) I swear it has something to do with boatshoes;) Good to see you checking in though, how is that little Skiff working out, is it wet yet this year? By for now.. D'oh. I'm not running anything at the other place. I'm just someone who read the rules, signed up and post. You were "judged" not for the excuses you are offering up here, but because your post went way over the line, violated the rules you agreed to abide by and because you taunted the moderator into killfiling your account. Everything you have posted about the incident is nothing more than rationalization. There are many reasons why some posters find the atmosphere at the other place more pleasant than it is here. I like it because photos of interest can be posted directly, and because I can avoid even *seeing* posts relating to other peoples' grandchildren, bad amateur guitar playing, diaperboat cruises, home-brewed beer, NASCAR, nonsensical comments about computer operating systems, and the rest of the flotsam and jetsam that passes for "rec.boats" these days. Hey...this is *your* newsgroup and the newsgroup of your buddies here. I just pop in on occasion for the giggles.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Not to mention, you are over there in your troll thread, lying about circumstances and situations over here, you are dismissed Harry, plonk |
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because I can avoid even *seeing* posts relating to other peoples' grandchildren, bad amateur guitar playing, diaperboat cruises, home-brewed beer, NASCAR, nonsensical comments about computer operating systems snip You forgot to include incessant political trolling, didn't you? Just a tinge of hypocrisy, eh? |
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"John H." wrote in message ... On Sat, 17 May 2008 19:25:10 -0700 (PDT), BTW, I received five messages from JimH, all telling me I was a sick individual because I said something negative about the way Chuck handled people like Harry and the problems between the two groups. John *H* Even Outlook Express can deal with unwanted emails. How did he get your addy. anyway? I noticed that you flub it in your headers. ( The following is not specifically aimed at John) It will not do any good to grouse about anything that goes on at Chuck's group. If it upsets you, don't read it. The two groups can coexist peacefully if they leave us alone and we do the same for them. There's only a few babies over there that act as if we've ripped their bottles out of their mouths. Filter them and their whining won't bother you. |
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On Sun, 18 May 2008 08:28:01 -0400, "Jim" wrote:
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On Sun, 18 May 2008 08:28:01 -0400, "Jim" wrote:
"John H." wrote in message .. . On Sat, 17 May 2008 19:25:10 -0700 (PDT), BTW, I received five messages from JimH, all telling me I was a sick individual because I said something negative about the way Chuck handled people like Harry and the problems between the two groups. John *H* Even Outlook Express can deal with unwanted emails. How did he get your addy. anyway? I noticed that you flub it in your headers. ( The following is not specifically aimed at John) It will not do any good to grouse about anything that goes on at Chuck's group. If it upsets you, don't read it. The two groups can coexist peacefully if they leave us alone and we do the same for them. There's only a few babies over there that act as if we've ripped their bottles out of their mouths. Filter them and their whining won't bother you. A personal message can be sent in Chuck's Place without an email address. One just clicks on a name and their profile page pops up with a link to sending a personal message. You're right. The two groups *can* coexist peacefully. -- John *H* |
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John H. wrote:
On Sun, 18 May 2008 08:28:01 -0400, "Jim" wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... On Sat, 17 May 2008 19:25:10 -0700 (PDT), BTW, I received five messages from JimH, all telling me I was a sick individual because I said something negative about the way Chuck handled people like Harry and the problems between the two groups. John *H* Even Outlook Express can deal with unwanted emails. How did he get your addy. anyway? I noticed that you flub it in your headers. ( The following is not specifically aimed at John) It will not do any good to grouse about anything that goes on at Chuck's group. If it upsets you, don't read it. The two groups can coexist peacefully if they leave us alone and we do the same for them. There's only a few babies over there that act as if we've ripped their bottles out of their mouths. Filter them and their whining won't bother you. A personal message can be sent in Chuck's Place without an email address. One just clicks on a name and their profile page pops up with a link to sending a personal message. You've sent me a couple there, and they end up in the same place the emails you've sent me recently...in the garbage disposal. |
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On May 18, 8:40*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Sat, 17 May 2008 09:06:49 -0700 (PDT), wrote: I have now been banned from the other group after one post, asking why a thread trashing us had been allowed to go on for days while the thread origionator was also over here calling us names. Remember, this is the same monitor that asked me not to mention "other groups" (not even by name) here in our forum.. I have to admit, I am pretty ****ed off and especially dissappointed in all those folks I thought were friends who seem to have thrown me under the bus as it were. I have to question the character of folks who have stood back and not said anything when they can not be missing the hyprocracy, kind of like another pet peeve of mine;) I haven't had the time to keep up with the shenanigans here and there. When I saw the post about the deleted post on Boatingforum this morning I came here to see who did it if only because this is the logical place for something like that to be initiated. Now that I know it was you, I'm a little disappointed. Your outsized indignation is misplaced. Yes there have been some attempts by certain members of Boatingforum to present negative commentary on what went on, and apparently still goes on, here, but as a general rule, it's been pretty civilized and while not riveting, it has been genial even among those who are deadly enemies here. What bothers me is that you, of all people, should know better. *This outrage you are exhibiting is silly and childish. *Boatingforum is not an extension of rec.boats and rec.boats is not a part of Boatingforum. While they share some participants in common, they are seperate entities and should be treated as such. *The fact that some common participants hold views that are anathema to participants in either forum isn't relevant to anything. And I've seen this in action on Boatingforum. *Somebody in the course of discussion will mention that the moon is white and immediately the usual suspects will "correct" that because the moon isn't white, it's off-white and dash off an email to Chuck proclaiming offense, high crimes and misdemeanors. What I would suggest is that you just ignore it and move on. It has nothing to do with you and your participation here. *Fits of pique and contumely on Boatingforum are for those who participate there to control. *In general, it has been controlled. It's Chuck's forum. *He can do what he wishes with it. *There are issues there that I don't like, including some of the thinly veiled snark fests, incriminations and other nonsense, but on the whole, it's been a decent attempt at Chuck's concept of civilized discussion centered around a shared hobby/business. Finally, give it a rest. *If you have a need to start a fight over some silly thing or another, just drop me an email and I'll come back in a different quise and give you a run for your money. Again, you miss the point. We were here nicely minding our own business. Chuck asked me not to mention other groups here and I accomodated him here. Then Harry comes over here calling us names, we still stay out of it.. then I go to Chuckies and find a whole thread directed toward us being allowed to thrive there, full of lies and misrepresentations. I asked a question to Chuckie as to how it could stand, and he binned my post, allowed the pigpile to continue anyway, and even joined in himself with his same old same old insults of his own... You can have it, you can justify it any way you want.. The guy is unfair and you not only know it, but obviously accept it with held nose.. good for you... |
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On May 17, 12:46*pm, HK wrote:
wrote: I have now been banned from the other group after one post, asking why a thread trashing us had been allowed to go on for days while the thread origionator was also over here calling us names. Remember, this is the same monitor that asked me not to mention "other groups" (not even by name) here in our forum.. I have to admit, I am pretty ****ed off and especially dissappointed in all those folks I thought were friends who seem to have thrown me under the bus as it were. I have to question the character of folks who have stood back and not said anything when they can not be missing the hyprocracy, kind of like another pet peeve of mine;) When you are an adult and a guest in someone else's house and there are rules posted, it pays to pay attention to them. In my house or on my boats, no smoking is allowed, excessive drinking is not allowed, use of illegal drugs is not allowed, and in general, really obnoxious behavior is not allowed. If you cannot live by the simple rules of the household, you should either not visit or you should expect to be escorted to the door or the dock. The proprietor of "the other group" has simple rules posted, and he has repeated them in several forums. You apparently did not believe they applied to you. Unfortunately, "rec.boats" has no rules. Harry, if you don't like rec.boats, why in hell are you here? Go away and stay away. If you notice, the group is alot better without you and JimH. Not one single person here misses you. |
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On May 17, 1:22Â*pm, Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 17, 9:06�am, wrote: I have now been banned from the other group after one post, asking why a thread trashing us had been allowed to go on for days while the thread origionator was also over here calling us names. Remember, this is the same monitor that asked me not to mention "other groups" (not even by name) here in our forum.. I have to admit, I am pretty ****ed off and especially dissappointed in all those folks I thought were friends who seem to have thrown me under the bus as it were. I have to question the character of folks who have stood back and not said anything when they can not be missing the hyprocracy, kind of like another pet peeve of mine;) ************* Something told me you would make an issue of this on rec.boats. Â*Didn't take long for you to air your own dirty laundry, did it? Why do you think that anybody on this board gives a rip what happens in another group? Only because you choose to misrepresnt some important facts will I waste any time rebutting you assertions. ******** So here you are, crying to another discussion group that after becoming a member of a different forum and making one post that flagrantly violated the clearly stated conventions against personal attacks, etc, you were tossed out on your arse. You should be neither surprised nor outraged, you got exactly the result you were trolling for. Congrats. Now you can whine endlessly that the big bad moderator at some other group threw innocent little you into the gutter but continues to tolerate the presence of folks who have posted disruptive content to other boards, elsewhere on the net, in the past. You seem to believe that the mere presence on another forum of people with checkered posting histories elsewhere is hypocritical within the context of a "monitored" (actually, the correct term is "moderated") group. Here's the important functional difference; the other discussion group you refer to doesn't moderate past behavior, it moderates the present. The folks you seem to have such negative passion for have, in the largest sense, conducted themselves on the other board in a civil and polite manner. The moderator's job isn't to be some sort of "nanny" and head off every minor disagreement, but merely to keep the general discourse relatively civil and free of personal attacks. We strive to disagree without becoming personally disagreeable. Why are you so obsessed with trying to start trouble between rec.boats and another discussion group? Get over it. There is no reason to be "****ed". Your "friends" haven't "thrown you under the bus" by posting elsewhere, they are obviously free to post here (as am I) if they choose to do so. I can't imagine that anybody choosing one group over the other is doing so because Scottie posts to rec.boats. Your troll characterized the thread as filled with name calling directed at individuals within rec.boats. Nonsense. It is a very long thread. One post condemned an unidentified group apparently intent on destroying rec.boats with OT trolls as "snarks", and there are many, many posts thereafter from various members encouraging one another not to even mention rec.boats in the forum. The "snark" post was questionable, but the response and overall tone of the thread was constructive and nothing in the thread prior to your appearance was anything close to as negative and nasty as the tone you adopted or the personal attack content you posted. Except for your vicious little jab, the rest of the thread is standing for anybody and everybody to see. Both people here who might be able to stifle a yawn long enough and would otherwise care to check out the tread in question will find it in the "Scraping the Bottom of the Barrel" (OT) classification of the forum you trolled. Does it bother you at all to misrepresent the nature, content, and tone of the thread you were bitching about or the post that got you 86'd? (Apparently not). If you were looking for an example of the kind of behavior that certain boards won't tolerate- you found it. You ended your vicious little troll with "I won't be back!" Get out your red crayon and draw a circle around today's date on the calendar, Scottie. Remember that as the first time we ever agreed on anything. Should you try to sneak back in and attempt to stir up further trouble, you will find that it takes a lot more than a new "handle". I'm going back over to where the actual boaters hang out. As always, the welcome mat is out over there for anybody who wants to talk about *boats* (not other boaters), or who can participate in the OT section of the forum without making personal attacks on other posters. Good news for you, Scottie- anybody who left this group for the other forum and who repeats your oscar-winning trolling performance of earlier today will be back here to join you. (We moderate the present behavior within the forum, not past behavior somewhere else). Chuck, what about Harry and JimH trashing other people on your board? Is that okay with you? It must be, because you allow them to do it. |
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