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John H. wrote:
On Tue, 20 May 2008 17:26:00 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Gould
wrote:

On May 20, 4:27?am, wrote:
On May 20, 6:52?am, HK wrote:





wrote:
On Mon, 19 May 2008 22:34:04 -0300, "Don White" wrote:
"WaIIy" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 17 May 2008 10:22:28 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Gould
wrote:
You ended your vicious little troll with "I won't be back!" Get out
your red crayon and draw a circle around today's date on the calendar,
Scottie. Remember that as the first time we ever agreed on anything.
Should you try to sneak back in and attempt to stir up further
trouble, you will find that it takes a lot more than a new "handle".
Geez Chuck, can we make a rant over in your world?
Oh that's right, we will be "moderated".
There are standards 'over there'. ?Half a dozen of the individualists here
wouldn't be interested in sailing the sterile Disneyesque waters in Chucks group.
Yes, that sounds about right
It's sort of funny to watch the little boys here **** and moan because
they don't have the self-control to behave decently at a place that
requires it.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
What's really funny is watching you play both ends of the candle.
Sucking chuckies little dickie cause he "is a real spammer/boater",
and coming back here cause you hate it there.... Didn't chuckie tell
you to talk about the picture posts??? ? You forgot the url too...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Some people just exude class. Darn shame it isn't always high class,
isn't it? I don't think about you 2 minutes a month when you aren't in
my face, Scottie- but it's obvious you are consumed by some irrational
hatred of me. Your loss- you're the one surrounded by a cloud of your
own negative energy and unable to control your actions as a result.
I'd ask a reasonable gentleman to apologize for such an inappropriate
and offensive reference, but in your case I just won't bother.

What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Who said that?

It's a shame you latch on to one person who called you something. Yet you
subtlely encourage the trio to do much worse.

You say you can do nothing, but we know better. Don't we?

I'd ask a gentleman to do what he could to put a stop to the ****. But I
won't do it again.


The only way to put a "stop to the sh*t," as you so elegantly put it, is
for someone to flush you and your cronies down the toilet.

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On Tue, 20 May 2008 20:11:02 -0400, DK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 20 May 2008 07:58:15 -0400, HK wrote:

I got
"hooked" on deviant sociology in sophomore year at college

That explains quite a lot.


"Hooked" isn't the correct term. "Diagnosed with.." is more appropriate.

And talking about them is as bad as talking to them!
--
John *H*

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On May 20, 8:47 pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 20 May 2008 17:26:00 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Gould



wrote:
On May 20, 4:27?am, wrote:
On May 20, 6:52?am, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 19 May 2008 22:34:04 -0300, "Don White" wrote:

"WaIIy" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 17 May 2008 10:22:28 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Gould
wrote:

You ended your vicious little troll with "I won't be back!" Get out
your red crayon and draw a circle around today's date on the calendar,
Scottie. Remember that as the first time we ever agreed on anything.
Should you try to sneak back in and attempt to stir up further
trouble, you will find that it takes a lot more than a new "handle".
Geez Chuck, can we make a rant over in your world?

Oh that's right, we will be "moderated".
There are standards 'over there'. ?Half a dozen of the individualists here
wouldn't be interested in sailing the sterile Disneyesque waters in Chucks group.

Yes, that sounds about right

It's sort of funny to watch the little boys here **** and moan because
they don't have the self-control to behave decently at a place that
requires it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

What's really funny is watching you play both ends of the candle.
Sucking chuckies little dickie cause he "is a real spammer/boater",
and coming back here cause you hate it there.... Didn't chuckie tell
you to talk about the picture posts??? ? You forgot the url too...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Some people just exude class. Darn shame it isn't always high class,
isn't it? I don't think about you 2 minutes a month when you aren't in
my face, Scottie- but it's obvious you are consumed by some irrational
hatred of me. Your loss- you're the one surrounded by a cloud of your
own negative energy and unable to control your actions as a result.
I'd ask a reasonable gentleman to apologize for such an inappropriate
and offensive reference, but in your case I just won't bother.

What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Who said that?

It's a shame you latch on to one person who called you something. Yet you
subtlely encourage the trio to do much worse.

You say you can do nothing, but we know better. Don't we?

I'd ask a gentleman to do what he could to put a stop to the ****. But I
won't do it again.
--
John *H*

All you and other notorious members here do is whine and cry here
about Chuck and his board, yet you are one of the top 5 posters at his
place.

You and those same members also continue to make his board the top
topic of posts here.

Is there a common theme here?

Me thinks so.

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On May 20, 8:26Â*pm, Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 20, 4:27�am, wrote:





On May 20, 6:52�am, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 19 May 2008 22:34:04 -0300, "Don White" wrote:

"WaIIy" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 17 May 2008 10:22:28 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Gould
wrote:

You ended your vicious little troll with "I won't be back!" Get out
your red crayon and draw a circle around today's date on the calendar,
Scottie. Remember that as the first time we ever agreed on anything.
Should you try to sneak back in and attempt to stir up further
trouble, you will find that it takes a lot more than a new "handle".
Geez Chuck, can we make a rant over in your world?

Oh that's right, we will be "moderated".
There are standards 'over there'. �Half a dozen of the individualists here
wouldn't be interested in sailing the sterile Disneyesque waters in Chucks group.

Yes, that sounds about right

It's sort of funny to watch the little boys here **** and moan because
they don't have the self-control to behave decently at a place that
requires it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

What's really funny is watching you play both ends of the candle.
Sucking chuckies little dickie cause he "is a real spammer/boater",
and coming back here cause you hate it there.... Didn't chuckie tell
you to talk about the picture posts??? � You forgot the url too....- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Some people just exude class. Darn shame it isn't always high class,
isn't it? I don't think about you 2 minutes a month when you aren't in
my face, Scottie- but it's obvious you are consumed by some irrational
hatred of me. Your loss- you're the one surrounded by a cloud of your
own negative energy and unable to control your actions as a result.
I'd ask a reasonable gentleman to apologize for such an inappropriate
and offensive reference, but in your case I just won't bother.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It's not a hatred, it's just a deep and well founded disrespect for
you and people like you...

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On May 20, 9:32 pm, wrote:
On May 20, 8:26 pm, Chuck Gould wrote:



On May 20, 4:27�am, wrote:

On May 20, 6:52�am, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 19 May 2008 22:34:04 -0300, "Don White" wrote:

"WaIIy" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 17 May 2008 10:22:28 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Gould
wrote:

You ended your vicious little troll with "I won't be back!" Get out
your red crayon and draw a circle around today's date on the calendar,
Scottie. Remember that as the first time we ever agreed on anything.
Should you try to sneak back in and attempt to stir up further
trouble, you will find that it takes a lot more than a new "handle".
Geez Chuck, can we make a rant over in your world?

Oh that's right, we will be "moderated".
There are standards 'over there'. �Half a dozen of the individualists here
wouldn't be interested in sailing the sterile Disneyesque waters in Chucks group.

Yes, that sounds about right

It's sort of funny to watch the little boys here **** and moan because
they don't have the self-control to behave decently at a place that
requires it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

What's really funny is watching you play both ends of the candle.
Sucking chuckies little dickie cause he "is a real spammer/boater",
and coming back here cause you hate it there.... Didn't chuckie tell
you to talk about the picture posts??? � You forgot the url too...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Some people just exude class. Darn shame it isn't always high class,
isn't it? I don't think about you 2 minutes a month when you aren't in
my face, Scottie- but it's obvious you are consumed by some irrational
hatred of me. Your loss- you're the one surrounded by a cloud of your
own negative energy and unable to control your actions as a result.
I'd ask a reasonable gentleman to apologize for such an inappropriate
and offensive reference, but in your case I just won't bother.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It's not a hatred, it's just a deep and well founded disrespect for
you and people like you...


A tough remark for anyone to make not really knowing what that person
is like or represents.

I really believe we are quite alike in terms of past experiences and
love for our kids.

I also believe that if we all met face to face that we would decide
that this sort of crap was nothing more than that.

I do not know the solution to the us vs. them thing but ( do know that
it is getting old.

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On May 20, 6:32�pm, wrote:


It's not a hatred, it's just a deep and well founded disrespect for
you and people like you...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Odd. Among the names you continue to call me at every opportunity
is "hypocrite". Would that be a person who is insincere, or says
things they don't mean? Or would it be a person who has no flipping
idea from week to week how they *really* feel about anything?

From the archives:



Newsgroups: rec.boats
From:
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 07:11:49 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Mar 9 2008 7:11 am
Subject: In case nobody noticed........
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On Mar 9, 10:03 am, Wayne.B wrote:


On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 23:40:49 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould

wrote:
Pretty soon, it would become apparent that if you
chose not to participate in the fighting and arguing there would be
very little else to do. That's where I'm at. When it got so bad that
it was actually embarrassing to be associated with this group it was
time to go. Getting sucked into the vortex once in a while was
additionally alarming.

(Wayne wrote):
As always, Chuck makes some good points. Too bad that very few are
listening.


(Scotty wrote):
I will miss Chuck, hope he sees fit to return as the summer rolls on,
or at least after the election.. Later Chuck if you are ever out
this
way, I would be happy to cook you a dinner and take you fishing;...

*************

Good thing I didn't take you up on your invitation to go fishing. I
would only be able to swim so far after your well founded disrespect
inspired you to throw me overboard. :-)

Do consider dropping the profane remarks. They are a long, long way
beneath you- or at least the rapidly eroding image of you I have tried
to sustain.

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On May 20, 11:36Â*pm, Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 20, 6:32�pm, wrote:



It's not a hatred, it's just a deep and well founded disrespect for
you and people like you...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Odd. Among the names you continue to call me at every opportunity
is "hypocrite". Â*Would that be a person who is insincere, or says
things they don't mean? Or would it be a person who has no flipping
idea from week to week how they *really* feel about anything?

From the archives:

Newsgroups: rec.boats
From:
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 07:11:49 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Mar 9 2008 7:11 am
Subject: In case nobody noticed........
Reply to author | Forward | Print | Individual message | Show original
| Report this message | Find messages by this author
On Mar 9, 10:03 am, Wayne.B wrote:

On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 23:40:49 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:
Pretty soon, it would become apparent that if you
chose not to participate in the fighting and arguing there would be
very little else to do. That's where I'm at. When it got so bad that
it was actually embarrassing to be associated with this group it was
time to go. Getting sucked into the vortex once in a while was
additionally alarming.

(Wayne wrote):

As always, Chuck makes some good points. Â*Too bad that very few are
listening.

(Scotty wrote):
I will miss Chuck, hope he sees fit to return as the summer rolls on,
or at least after the election.. Â*Later Chuck if you are ever out
this
way, I would be happy to cook you a dinner and take you fishing;...

*************

Good thing I didn't take you up on your invitation to go fishing. I
would only be able to swim so far after your well founded disrespect
inspired you to throw me overboard. :-)

Do consider dropping the profane remarks. They are a long, long way
beneath you- or at least the rapidly eroding image of you I have tried
to sustain.

At the time I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt.... get
over it Chuck..

now banned..
 

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On Tue, 20 May 2008 20:36:35 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Gould
wrote:

On May 20, 6:32?pm, wrote:


It's not a hatred, it's just a deep and well founded disrespect for
you and people like you...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Odd. Among the names you continue to call me at every opportunity
is "hypocrite". Would that be a person who is insincere, or says
things they don't mean? Or would it be a person who has no flipping
idea from week to week how they *really* feel about anything?


Attitudes change, Chuck. From the first name-calling you allowed in your
place, my attitude has changed also.
--
John *H*

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John H. wrote:
On Tue, 20 May 2008 20:36:35 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Gould
wrote:

On May 20, 6:32?pm, wrote:

It's not a hatred, it's just a deep and well founded disrespect for
you and people like you...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Odd. Among the names you continue to call me at every opportunity
is "hypocrite". Would that be a person who is insincere, or says
things they don't mean? Or would it be a person who has no flipping
idea from week to week how they *really* feel about anything?


Attitudes change, Chuck. From the first name-calling you allowed in your
place, my attitude has changed also.


Gee, I don't recall anyone calling you a name there. In fact, I don't
recall anyone else being called a name, either. What name were *you*
called, Herring?

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"John H." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 20 May 2008 20:36:35 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Gould
wrote:

On May 20, 6:32?pm, wrote:


It's not a hatred, it's just a deep and well founded disrespect for
you and people like you...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Odd. Among the names you continue to call me at every opportunity
is "hypocrite". Would that be a person who is insincere, or says
things they don't mean? Or would it be a person who has no flipping
idea from week to week how they *really* feel about anything?


Attitudes change, Chuck. From the first name-calling you allowed in your
place, my attitude has changed also.
--
John *H*

now banned..
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:
On Tue, 20 May 2008 20:36:35 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Gould
wrote:

On May 20, 6:32?pm, wrote:

It's not a hatred, it's just a deep and well founded disrespect for
you and people like you...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Odd. Among the names you continue to call me at every opportunity
is "hypocrite". Would that be a person who is insincere, or says
things they don't mean? Or would it be a person who has no flipping
idea from week to week how they *really* feel about anything?


Attitudes change, Chuck. From the first name-calling you allowed in your
place, my attitude has changed also.


Gee, I don't recall anyone calling you a name there. In fact, I don't
recall anyone else being called a name, either. What name were *you*
called, Herring?

Someone may have called him a boater and he probably would consider that an
insult

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"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On May 20, 8:26 pm, Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 20, 4:27?am, wrote:





On May 20, 6:52?am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 19 May 2008 22:34:04 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:
"WaIIy" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 17 May 2008 10:22:28 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Gould
wrote:
You ended your vicious little troll with "I won't be back!" Get
out
your red crayon and draw a circle around today's date on the
calendar,
Scottie. Remember that as the first time we ever agreed on
anything.
Should you try to sneak back in and attempt to stir up further
trouble, you will find that it takes a lot more than a new
"handle".
Geez Chuck, can we make a rant over in your world?
Oh that's right, we will be "moderated".
There are standards 'over there'. ?Half a dozen of the
individualists here
wouldn't be interested in sailing the sterile Disneyesque waters in
Chucks group.
Yes, that sounds about right
It's sort of funny to watch the little boys here **** and moan because
they don't have the self-control to behave decently at a place that
requires it.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
What's really funny is watching you play both ends of the candle.
Sucking chuckies little dickie cause he "is a real spammer/boater",
and coming back here cause you hate it there.... Didn't chuckie tell
you to talk about the picture posts??? ? You forgot the url too...-
Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Some people just exude class. Darn shame it isn't always high class,
isn't it? I don't think about you 2 minutes a month when you aren't in
my face, Scottie- but it's obvious you are consumed by some irrational
hatred of me. Your loss- you're the one surrounded by a cloud of your
own negative energy and unable to control your actions as a result.
I'd ask a reasonable gentleman to apologize for such an inappropriate
and offensive reference, but in your case I just won't bother.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It's not a hatred, it's just a deep and well founded disrespect for
you and people like you...


What a strange comment.


I'm hoping Tom will have a good open discussion with Scotty out on the
Ranger this weekend. It might put things in the proper perspective.
Deep down I know Scotty doesn't want to roll around with tha likes of Freddy
'D' Kruger, Waylon, Bertie or Flatulent Jim.

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On May 21, 4:34�am, HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Tue, 20 May 2008 20:36:35 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Gould
wrote:

On May 20, 6:32?pm, wrote:

It's not a hatred, it's just a deep and well founded disrespect for
you and people like you...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Odd. Among the names you continue to call me at every opportunity
is "hypocrite". �Would that be a person who is insincere, or says
things they don't mean? Or would it be a person who has no flipping
idea from week to week how they *really* feel about anything?

Attitudes change, Chuck. From the first name-calling you allowed in your
place, my attitude has changed also.

Gee, I don't recall anyone calling you a name there. In fact, I don't
recall anyone else being called a name, either. What name were *you*
called, Herring?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I wouldn't worry about it much, Harry. For some reason, 2-3 guys on
this board persist on screaming that boatingforum is filled with posts
full of insults and name calling. The only one I can find that ever
came close is one of yours that remarked the "snarks are trying to
destroy rec.boats". Even then, nobody was actually identified as a
snark. Not only is name calling (and according to one poster here "pig-
piling") the alleged order of the day, but I'm three kinds of
hypocrite for allowing it to go on. Folks who have never checked out
boatingforum are eager to
believe the slander; but then again look at the nature of the group
where those people are more customarily found.

Speaking of the nature of the group; for my two cents worth I really
don't feel like I have a dog in the hunt anymore at rec.boats (but
morbid curiousity draws me in when a thread attacking me or
boatingforum erupts). I'm getting nasty emails, flaming PM's, and
other "fan mail" from
folks who believe I've got some magical power to dictate how often
people who post to both groups post here, or the content of their
posts at this NG. Any rational person knows this is far from true. So
even though this place is part of the past and not part of the future
as far as I'm concerned, I think it's a shame when folks stand around
peeing on the corpse of what was once a useful and enjoyable group. If
you're as done here as I am, why not leave Nosepicker, Freak, Wally,
Ugly, et al
to try to rebuild this thing in peace? I suspect that Scottie's little
scouting mission to the boating forum was maybe only the first of
additional nonsense that might ensue by other folks confused enough to
believe that boatingforum is sending trolls over to rec.boats to stir
things up. Heck, one of the folks here even accused somebody of
posting Chinese tennis shoe spam to rec.boats to drive traffic to
boatingforum.

Unfortunately and unfairly, boatingforum is being judged not by the
content and tone that actually prevails there, but by the nature of
posts that some people who post to more than one boating board are
posting elsewhere. To that end, it would be useful if those folks
posting to more than one group didn't mention boatingforum elsewhere,
especially in wrecked.boats. It would be useful, if for nothing more
than general peace and harmony in the universe, if we all restircted
our postings everywhere to things we would be willing to say in
person.....(while having a confrontation in a biker bar)...but that's
my personal opinion, it's been well known for a long time, and that
opinion was one of the motivators for starting a group where a
standard of civility is expected.

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Get over it chuck,,, we did....

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Chuck Gould wrote:
Any rational person knows this is far from true. So
even though this place is part of the past and not part of the future
as far as I'm concerned, I think it's a shame when folks stand around
peeing on the corpse of what was once a useful and enjoyable group. If
you're as done here as I am, why not leave Nosepicker, Freak, Wally,
Ugly, et al
to try to rebuild this thing in peace? I suspect that Scottie's little
scouting mission to the boating forum was maybe only the first of
additional nonsense that might ensue by other folks confused enough to
believe that boatingforum is sending trolls over to rec.boats to stir
things up.

Chuck,
You have done a good job of setting up your forum, and hopefully those
who enjoy your boating forum, will find it more productive to build a
community over there, instead of visiting rec.boats just to stir things
up and "enjoy the deviant behavior". When some of the most prolific
posters in your forum, are posting 10 to 20 insults in rec.boats to
every productive posts they make in boatingforum, it invites more
juvenile behavior and name calling, which unfortunately overflows into
your group.

As you said, it would seem to be a a simple proposal, if you don't like
boatingforum, don't go there. If you don't like rec.boats don't go
there. If you enjoy both, keep them separate. I know you are not
sending anyone over to rec.boats to stir things up, but it has been
going on. Hopefully we all can learn from the general civility shown in
your group, and ignore obvious trolls and those who visit rec.boats
for the sole purpose of stirring up a flamefest.

now banned..
 

On May 21, 8:45�am, wrote:
Get over it chuck,,, we did....

Sure you did. All 152 posts worth and still counting.
But should I ever decide to visit rec.boats for the sole purpose of
raising hell and then running to whine about the reception elsewhere,
I will bear in mind that the magic words "get over it" are an
acceptable substitute for an appropriate apology and will somehow
transfer the blame for my own bad behavior to the folks I set out ot
slander. Pretty useful phrase, isn't it?

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On May 21, 8:14�am, "Don White" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message

...





wrote:
On May 20, 8:26 pm, Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 20, 4:27?am, wrote:

On May 20, 6:52?am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 19 May 2008 22:34:04 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:
"WaIIy" wrote in message
news:od5434tu8333493hkedtr5csvn8dgtvhd8@4ax .com...
On Sat, 17 May 2008 10:22:28 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Gould
wrote:
You ended your vicious little troll with "I won't be back!" Get
out
your red crayon and draw a circle around today's date on the
calendar,
Scottie. Remember that as the first time we ever agreed on
anything.
Should you try to sneak back in and attempt to stir up further
trouble, you will find that it takes a lot more than a new
"handle".
Geez Chuck, can we make a rant over in your world?
Oh that's right, we will be "moderated".
There are standards 'over there'. ?Half a dozen of the
individualists here
wouldn't be interested in sailing the sterile Disneyesque waters in
Chucks group.
Yes, that sounds about right
It's sort of funny to watch the little boys here **** and moan because
they don't have the self-control to behave decently at a place that
requires it.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
What's really funny is watching you play both ends of the candle.
Sucking chuckies little dickie cause he "is a real spammer/boater",
and coming back here cause you hate it there.... Didn't chuckie tell
you to talk about the picture posts??? ? You forgot the url too...-
Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Some people just exude class. Darn shame it isn't always high class,
isn't it? I don't think about you 2 minutes a month when you aren't in
my face, Scottie- but it's obvious you are consumed by some irrational
hatred of me. Your loss- you're the one surrounded by a cloud of your
own negative energy and unable to control your actions as a result.
I'd ask a reasonable gentleman to apologize for such an inappropriate
and offensive reference, but in your case I just won't bother.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It's not a hatred, it's just a deep and well founded disrespect for
you and people like you...

What a strange comment.

I'm hoping Tom will have a good open discussion with Scotty out on the
Ranger this weekend. �It might put things in the proper perspective.
Deep down I know Scotty doesn't want to roll around with tha likes of Freddy
'D' Kruger, Waylon, Bertie or Flatulent Jim.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Here's hoping they find something far more useful, happy, and relevant
to discuss than this stupid thread. I wish them good fishing. :-)

now banned..
 

Chuck Gould wrote:


Speaking of the nature of the group; for my two cents worth I really
don't feel like I have a dog in the hunt anymore at rec.boats (but
morbid curiousity draws me in when a thread attacking me or
boatingforum erupts). I'm getting nasty emails, flaming PM's, and
other "fan mail" from
folks who believe I've got some magical power to dictate how often
people who post to both groups post here, or the content of their
posts at this NG. Any rational person knows this is far from true. So
even though this place is part of the past and not part of the future
as far as I'm concerned, I think it's a shame when folks stand around
peeing on the corpse of what was once a useful and enjoyable group. If
you're as done here as I am, why not leave Nosepicker, Freak, Wally,
Ugly, et al
to try to rebuild this thing in peace? I suspect that Scottie's little
scouting mission to the boating forum was maybe only the first of
additional nonsense that might ensue by other folks confused enough to
believe that boatingforum is sending trolls over to rec.boats to stir
things up. Heck, one of the folks here even accused somebody of
posting Chinese tennis shoe spam to rec.boats to drive traffic to
boatingforum.

Unfortunately and unfairly, boatingforum is being judged not by the
content and tone that actually prevails there, but by the nature of
posts that some people who post to more than one boating board are
posting elsewhere. To that end, it would be useful if those folks
posting to more than one group didn't mention boatingforum elsewhere,
especially in wrecked.boats. It would be useful, if for nothing more
than general peace and harmony in the universe, if we all restircted
our postings everywhere to things we would be willing to say in
person.....(while having a confrontation in a biker bar)...but that's
my personal opinion, it's been well known for a long time, and that
opinion was one of the motivators for starting a group where a
standard of civility is expected.


I'll refrain from "advertising" here. As far as what I am willing to say
in public, though, you can be sure I'd address some of the creeps if I
met them face to face the same way I do here.

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Reginald Smithers III wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
Any rational person knows this is far from true. So
even though this place is part of the past and not part of the future
as far as I'm concerned, I think it's a shame when folks stand around
peeing on the corpse of what was once a useful and enjoyable group. If
you're as done here as I am, why not leave Nosepicker, Freak, Wally,
Ugly, et al
to try to rebuild this thing in peace? I suspect that Scottie's little
scouting mission to the boating forum was maybe only the first of
additional nonsense that might ensue by other folks confused enough to
believe that boatingforum is sending trolls over to rec.boats to stir
things up.

Chuck,
You have done a good job of setting up your forum, and hopefully those
who enjoy your boating forum, will find it more productive to build a
community over there, instead of visiting rec.boats just to stir things
up and "enjoy the deviant behavior". When some of the most prolific
posters in your forum, are posting 10 to 20 insults in rec.boats to
every productive posts they make in boatingforum, it invites more
juvenile behavior and name calling, which unfortunately overflows into
your group.

As you said, it would seem to be a a simple proposal, if you don't like
boatingforum, don't go there. If you don't like rec.boats don't go
there. If you enjoy both, keep them separate. I know you are not
sending anyone over to rec.boats to stir things up, but it has been
going on. Hopefully we all can learn from the general civility shown in
your group, and ignore obvious trolls and those who visit rec.boats for
the sole purpose of stirring up a flamefest.


You're one of the worst trolls that ever infected this joint, Reggie.
Get over yourself.

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On May 21, 12:30Â*pm, Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 21, 8:14�am, "Don White" wrote:





"HK" wrote in message

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wrote:
On May 20, 8:26 pm, Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 20, 4:27?am, wrote:

On May 20, 6:52?am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 19 May 2008 22:34:04 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:
"WaIIy" wrote in message
news:od5434tu8333493hkedtr5csvn8dgtvhd8@4ax .com...
On Sat, 17 May 2008 10:22:28 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Gould
wrote:
You ended your vicious little troll with "I won't be back!" Get
out
your red crayon and draw a circle around today's date on the
calendar,
Scottie. Remember that as the first time we ever agreed on
anything.
Should you try to sneak back in and attempt to stir up further
trouble, you will find that it takes a lot more than a new
"handle".
Geez Chuck, can we make a rant over in your world?
Oh that's right, we will be "moderated".
There are standards 'over there'. ?Half a dozen of the
individualists here
wouldn't be interested in sailing the sterile Disneyesque waters in
Chucks group.
Yes, that sounds about right
It's sort of funny to watch the little boys here **** and moan because
they don't have the self-control to behave decently at a place that
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What's really funny is watching you play both ends of the candle.
Sucking chuckies little dickie cause he "is a real spammer/boater",
and coming back here cause you hate it there.... Didn't chuckie tell
you to talk about the picture posts??? ? You forgot the url too...-
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Some people just exude class. Darn shame it isn't always high class,
isn't it? I don't think about you 2 minutes a month when you aren't in
my face, Scottie- but it's obvious you are consumed by some irrational
hatred of me. Your loss- you're the one surrounded by a cloud of your
own negative energy and unable to control your actions as a result.
I'd ask a reasonable gentleman to apologize for such an inappropriate
and offensive reference, but in your case I just won't bother.- Hide
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It's not a hatred, it's just a deep and well founded disrespect for
you and people like you...

What a strange comment.

I'm hoping Tom will have a good open discussion with Scotty out on the
Ranger this weekend. �It might put things in the proper perspective.
Deep down I know Scotty doesn't want to roll around with tha likes of Freddy
'D' Kruger, Waylon, Bertie or Flatulent Jim.- Hide quoted text -

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Here's hoping they find something far more useful, happy, and relevant
to discuss than this stupid thread. I wish them good fishing. :-)- Hide quoted text -

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You are a funny guy. You start your own group because you don't like
not being in control here. Your group members come here for a couple
of weeks and taunt us. I respond. You are outraged and write me a
personal email stating such and asking me to stop, I did. Your members
come here and taunt us more, and I can only assume you did not
complain to them as it did not stop. When it did not work here, they
started a troll thread on your own forum, which you let stand. Finally
I answered, and you binned the post, practically dared me to come back
while bragging on how great your filter works,, (btw chuck, it is not
by email, etc.. it is by IP, learn your trade). Then you finish the
thread by insulting me knowing I have no recourse but here. Then you
come here, cry, and promise you will not come back.. Now you are back
crying again, all the while the thread complete with your unansewered
insults is still on your forum. This only serves to prove to anyone
interested that you are hardly qualified to moderate any serious open
group. You are now added to the list of trolls from the other group
that those of us who are left here should ignore..... Go away Chuckie,
if you can't see your own hyprocracy here, you are either ingnorant or
dishonest. Now stop coming here crying, I don't think anyone left here
is really listening anyway.

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On May 21, 9:48�am, wrote:


You are a funny guy. You start your own group because you don't like
not being in control here. Your group members come here for a couple
of weeks and taunt us. I respond. You are outraged and write me a
personal email stating such and asking me to stop, I did. Your members
come here and taunt us more, and I can only assume you did not
complain to them as it did not stop.


How are they "my group members"? The people you are upset about have
been "members" at rec.boats for years. They are every bit as much your
members as "mine". When they act up here, deal with it here. I'm no
more responsible for any individual's behavior in rec.boats than you
are, and have no more ability to control it. That's why you prefer
this format, remember? No rules, no format, no structure. What you see
is what you get, and have for many, many years. Enjoy.

BTW, as of this morning you are no longer banished from the other
forum. I'd fall down in shock if you ever put in an appearance there
again, (and if you post personal attacks and confrontational content
the response will again be as you have already experienced), but we'll
let your anticipated absence there be *your* decision, not mine. Our
dispute is certainly not personal, at least from my perspective. I'd
have to give a flying fig about you one way or the other for it to be
personal, and when I'm not trying to defend myself against your
negative nonsense you aren't even on the radar screen.

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it's over harry, drop it..

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wrote in message
...


it's over harry, drop it..

I won't bother to ask "What's over", I'll just take comfort in the fact that
you didn't quote said harry.

Thank you Thank you Thank you

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On Wed, 21 May 2008 10:09:20 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Gould
wrote:

On May 21, 9:48?am, wrote:


You are a funny guy. You start your own group because you don't like
not being in control here. Your group members come here for a couple
of weeks and taunt us. I respond. You are outraged and write me a
personal email stating such and asking me to stop, I did. Your members
come here and taunt us more, and I can only assume you did not
complain to them as it did not stop.


How are they "my group members"? The people you are upset about have
been "members" at rec.boats for years. They are every bit as much your
members as "mine".

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They're yours Chuck. You've gained two or three great friends in this mess.
They are here for only one reason, to put this group out of business. You
know that to be true. When they come here to do so, and brag about your
group at the same time, it does reflect on you and yours.

Yes, they are 'your group members'. Look at it this way, you've lost a
little esteem from some of us who matter naught. But, you've more than made
up for it with the well wishes of Harry and JimH.

--
John *H*