On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:55:41 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Apr 22, 6:20 pm, DK wrote:
CTBob wrote:
I have sort of an "open" question. I currently have an older (1982)
15.5’ trihull with 70HP outboard. I am looking into buying a new boat
and would like some of your opinions on 4 cyl vs. 6 cyl. I’m looking
for a bowrider 17’ to 19’ length. I have been noticing that most of
the boats in this size range have the 4cyl engines, but some (most)
offer a 6 cyl option. It would be used mostly in fresh water lakes
for pleasure/ fishing/ tubing/ some watersking and wakeboarding. I
have two boys who think "the faster, the better". Is the 6 cyl
option generally worth the extra money? Would the 4 cyl generally be
underpowered? I have heard both good and bad regarding both engines.
Any comments would be appreciated.
Have you considered keeping an outboard?

Here's one example:

http://glastron.com/us/boatpages/gt180.html
Nice looking boat?

What design is an Evinrude 115 DSLSD ?

Never heard of a DSLSD....


Detonates Sooner rather than Later with a Spectacular Display

DSLSD

Good one.

If ypu want a recreational boat then the i/os are the biggest bang for the
buck. Plus you get to have a full length rear deck for messing with the
ropes, skis, tubs etc. Sometimes we're bringing in multiple people the same
time we're putting out multiple people. Outboards are just in the way, fine
for fishing, but forget about it for recreational boating. I/o's are a bad
choice if you're going to leave it in a slip full time though.

"HK" wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:55:41 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Apr 22, 6:20 pm, DK wrote:
CTBob wrote:
I have sort of an "open" question. I currently have an older (1982)
15.5’ trihull with 70HP outboard. I am looking into buying a new boat
and would like some of your opinions on 4 cyl vs. 6 cyl. I’m looking
for a bowrider 17’ to 19’ length. I have been noticing that most of
the boats in this size range have the 4cyl engines, but some (most)
offer a 6 cyl option. It would be used mostly in fresh water lakes
for pleasure/ fishing/ tubing/ some watersking and wakeboarding. I
have two boys who think "the faster, the better". Is the 6 cyl
option generally worth the extra money? Would the 4 cyl generally be
underpowered? I have heard both good and bad regarding both engines.
Any comments would be appreciated.
Have you considered keeping an outboard?

Here's one example:

http://glastron.com/us/boatpages/gt180.html
Nice looking boat?

What design is an Evinrude 115 DSLSD ?

Never heard of a DSLSD....


Detonates Sooner rather than Later with a Spectacular Display

DSLSD

jamesgangnc wrote:
Good one.

If ypu want a recreational boat then the i/os are the biggest bang for the
buck. Plus you get to have a full length rear deck for messing with the
ropes, skis, tubs etc. Sometimes we're bringing in multiple people the same
time we're putting out multiple people. Outboards are just in the way, fine
for fishing, but forget about it for recreational boating. I/o's are a bad
choice if you're going to leave it in a slip full time though.


I boat in salt water, mostly. I wouldn't touch an I/O with a 10-foot
pole. If I were a fresh-water trailer boater, I'd consider one.

I learned to waterski behind an 18 hp Evinrude outboard. Somehow we
managed the skis, ropes, and getting out of the boat and back in. The
outboard was never in the way. Plus with an outboard, none of the
cockpit space is taken up by the engine box.

Each has their merits. I prefer outboards.

Lots of people learned to ski behind little outboards. My wife did as well.
But that doesn't make them the best choice for recreational water sports.
And trying to say the outboard was never in the way is crap, you just worked
around it. If you're going to do much of it in a day the outboard does get
in the way. Besides you'll never get the hole shot of a big i/o or inboard
with anything less than a $15k outboard. See any real ski boats with an
outboard?

"HK" wrote in message
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jamesgangnc wrote:
Good one.

If ypu want a recreational boat then the i/os are the biggest bang for
the buck. Plus you get to have a full length rear deck for messing with
the ropes, skis, tubs etc. Sometimes we're bringing in multiple people
the same time we're putting out multiple people. Outboards are just in
the way, fine for fishing, but forget about it for recreational boating.
I/o's are a bad choice if you're going to leave it in a slip full time
though.


I boat in salt water, mostly. I wouldn't touch an I/O with a 10-foot pole.
If I were a fresh-water trailer boater, I'd consider one.

I learned to waterski behind an 18 hp Evinrude outboard. Somehow we
managed the skis, ropes, and getting out of the boat and back in. The
outboard was never in the way. Plus with an outboard, none of the cockpit
space is taken up by the engine box.

Each has their merits. I prefer outboards.

jamesgangnc wrote:
Lots of people learned to ski behind little outboards. My wife did as well.
But that doesn't make them the best choice for recreational water sports.
And trying to say the outboard was never in the way is crap, you just worked
around it. If you're going to do much of it in a day the outboard does get
in the way. Besides you'll never get the hole shot of a big i/o or inboard
with anything less than a $15k outboard. See any real ski boats with an
outboard?


I never said a small outboard was the best choice...I simply said I
learned to ski behind one, as did many others. I have no recollection of
the outboard "being in the way" of any waterski activities.

Have I seen any "real" ski boats with outboards. I sure have, in
Florida. Now, I appreciate the fact that "competitive" waterskiers these
days use mostly inboards, but I don't give a damn about them, and I
never did. Those flat-bottomed ski boats would be next to useless where
I like to boat.

I like straight inboards, but I'd never buy one as a "ski" boat, or a
"Wakeboard" boat. As for an I/O...nah.

Competitive waterskiers have been using inboards for 30 years in case you
were on some other planet. As well as recreational waterskiers. But for a
general purpose recreational, fair weather, day boat an i/o is the biggest
bang for the buck. For other stuff sure, I wouldn't consider anything but
outboards. Serious off shore fishing, give me a big center console with
twin outboards. But you guys act like just cause an outboard is the right
choice for what you do it is the right choice for everyone. So if your
family got into some serious water sports, you'd buy an outboard? That's
just pig headed.

And you wrote an entire paragraph on your use of an outboard for skiing and
how it was never a problem. Instead you could have just said you learned to
ski on an outboard. I've watched outboarders doing water sports, it's
obviously a pain. Taking in and out ropes with that stupid floating bridle
to get them around the engine, give me a break.

"HK" wrote in message
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jamesgangnc wrote:
Lots of people learned to ski behind little outboards. My wife did as
well. But that doesn't make them the best choice for recreational water
sports. And trying to say the outboard was never in the way is crap, you
just worked around it. If you're going to do much of it in a day the
outboard does get in the way. Besides you'll never get the hole shot of
a big i/o or inboard with anything less than a $15k outboard. See any
real ski boats with an outboard?


I never said a small outboard was the best choice...I simply said I
learned to ski behind one, as did many others. I have no recollection of
the outboard "being in the way" of any waterski activities.

Have I seen any "real" ski boats with outboards. I sure have, in Florida.
Now, I appreciate the fact that "competitive" waterskiers these days use
mostly inboards, but I don't give a damn about them, and I never did.
Those flat-bottomed ski boats would be next to useless where I like to
boat.

I like straight inboards, but I'd never buy one as a "ski" boat, or a
"Wakeboard" boat. As for an I/O...nah.

On Apr 23, 8:49*am, "jamesgangnc" wrote:
Competitive waterskiers have been using inboards for 30 years in case you
were on some other planet. *As well as recreational waterskiers. *But for a
general purpose recreational, fair weather, day boat an i/o is the biggest
bang for the buck. *For other stuff sure, I wouldn't consider anything but
outboards. *Serious off shore fishing, give me a big center console with
twin outboards. *But you guys act like just cause an outboard is the right
choice for what you do it is the right choice for everyone. *So if your
family got into some serious water sports, you'd buy an outboard? *That's
just pig headed.

And you wrote an entire paragraph on your use of an outboard for skiing and
how it was never a problem. *Instead you could have just said you learned to
ski on an outboard. *I've watched outboarders doing water sports, it's
obviously a pain. *Taking in and out ropes with that stupid floating bridle
to get them around the engine, give me a break.

"HK" wrote in message

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jamesgangnc wrote:
Lots of people learned to ski behind little outboards. *My wife did as
well. But that doesn't make them the best choice for recreational water
sports. And trying to say the outboard was never in the way is crap, you
just worked around it. *If you're going to do much of it in a day the
outboard does get in the way. *Besides you'll never get the hole shot of
a big i/o or inboard with anything less than a $15k outboard. *See any
real ski boats with an outboard?

I never said a small outboard was the best choice...I simply said I
learned to ski behind one, as did many others. I have no recollection of
the outboard "being in the way" of any waterski activities.

Have I seen any "real" ski boats with outboards. I sure have, in Florida..
Now, I appreciate the fact that "competitive" waterskiers these days use
mostly inboards, but I don't give a damn about them, and I never did.
Those flat-bottomed ski boats would be next to useless where I like to
boat.

I like straight inboards, but I'd never buy one as a "ski" boat, or a
"Wakeboard" boat. As for an I/O...nah.- Hide quoted text -

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Next Harry will tell us how his father skied across the Atlantic and
got a fireboat welcome in NYC on his return.

jamesgangnc wrote:


And you wrote an entire paragraph on your use of an outboard for skiing and
how it was never a problem. Instead you could have just said you learned to
ski on an outboard. I've watched outboarders doing water sports, it's
obviously a pain. Taking in and out ropes with that stupid floating bridle
to get them around the engine, give me a break.


It was never a problem. Yes, I learned to ski behind an outboard. So?

On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:49:33 -0400, "jamesgangnc"
wrote:

And you wrote an entire paragraph on your use of an outboard for skiing and
how it was never a problem. Instead you could have just said you learned to
ski on an outboard. I've watched outboarders doing water sports, it's
obviously a pain. Taking in and out ropes with that stupid floating bridle
to get them around the engine, give me a break.

Don't they have towers and such on "ski" boats? To get around the
stern problem?

The ski club at Webster lake changed their club boats over from Master
Craft and Centurion to outboard Glastrons - with ETECs. From what I
heard, more power, better fuel economy and more power. :)

Their three boats all have what they call ski towers and stern posts
(ski pylons?) for the tow rigs.

Doesn't seem to bother them much.

And I might be wrong, but I thought that the ski show in Orlando's
Seaworld uses outboards - ETECs actually, don't know the model boat -
or they did at one time - that may have changed.

I also believe that the world's record number of skiers towed was
behind outboards - ETECs in fact.

Hmmmm - I'm sensing a recurring theme here. :)

Hey - what ever floats your boat - get it? Float - boat? :)

On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:49:33 -0400, "jamesgangnc"
wrote:

Competitive waterskiers have been using inboards for 30 years in case you
were on some other planet.

I saw my first inboard ski boat at Cypress Gardens back in the late
50s or early 60s. I think it was a Mastercraft and it was capable of
pulling a whole bunch of skiiers at one time.