On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:22:33 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 05:06:22 -0700 (PDT), Tim penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Apr 21, 5:13*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
|wrote:
| On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 20:21:04 -0700 (PDT), Tim
| wrote:
|
|
|
|
|
| On Apr 20, 10:17*pm, wrote:
| On Apr 20, 11:12 pm, "David E. Powell"
| wrote:
|
| On Apr 20, 9:49 pm, wrote:
|
| Went to buy some *stainless 1/4-20 wingnuts from Home Depot for my
| boat (Tolman Skiff). *All thjey had were some really crappy looking
| ones. *Sure enough, made in China. *I threw them back on the shelf
| figuring they were probably pot metal. *Cannot trust Chinese made
| stuff. *Went to Ace and bought some US made ones. *They cost a lot
| more but I know they are real SS.
| Th cheapo Chinese stuff really costs a LOT more than the US made stuff
| if you figure you will likely need to replace the Chinese stuff.
| Besides, when I am offshore, I want to be sure my boat will stay
| together. *My life is worth paying a little more.
|
| Chinese tool quality has come up quite a bit in the past 10-15 years
| but I haven't dealt with their fasteners yet, all of the nails and
| screws I use are Made in USA. I agree with your point about
| replacement being an issue and with a boat, going with the best you
| can find is very important. Has anyone else here used Chinese boat
| stuff?
|
| The Chinese ones were $1.20 for a dozen while the USA made ones at Ace
| were $1.10 EACH. *Yeah, I got ripped off but I needed them NOW and
| will not put chinese crap on my boat.- Hide quoted text -
|
| - Show quoted text -
|
| $1.10? i think that's plenty, but when you think about it, it *really
| isn't that high for quality stainless. At least you know they arn't
| going to have their plating turn to corrosion, then powder, then rust
| the first month left out in the humidity.
|
| Well, I've gotten some of these "higher" quality SS fasteners and they
| are magnetic - which means they will rust.- Hide quoted text -
|
| - Show quoted text -
|
|evidently not higher quality enough.
|
|surgical wingnuts?
|
|hmmm, could their be a market for them?

They may be a more expensive grade of stainless... stronger, but in
the real world you can't get something for nothing and sometimes
corrosion resistance is forsaken for a higher tensile strength.....

You know, that's a good point.

On Apr 21, 10:58*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:22:33 -0400, Gene Kearns





wrote:
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 05:06:22 -0700 (PDT), Tim penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Apr 21, 5:13*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
|wrote:
| On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 20:21:04 -0700 (PDT), Tim
| wrote:
|
|
|
|
|
| On Apr 20, 10:17*pm, wrote:
| On Apr 20, 11:12 pm, "David E. Powell"
| wrote:
|
| On Apr 20, 9:49 pm, wrote:
|
| Went to buy some *stainless 1/4-20 wingnuts from Home Depot for my
| boat (Tolman Skiff). *All thjey had were some really crappy looking
| ones. *Sure enough, made in China. *I threw them back on the shelf
| figuring they were probably pot metal. *Cannot trust Chinese made
| stuff. *Went to Ace and bought some US made ones. *They cost a lot
| more but I know they are real SS.
| Th cheapo Chinese stuff really costs a LOT more than the US made stuff
| if you figure you will likely need to replace the Chinese stuff..
| Besides, when I am offshore, I want to be sure my boat will stay
| together. *My life is worth paying a little more.
|
| Chinese tool quality has come up quite a bit in the past 10-15 years
| but I haven't dealt with their fasteners yet, all of the nails and
| screws I use are Made in USA. I agree with your point about
| replacement being an issue and with a boat, going with the best you
| can find is very important. Has anyone else here used Chinese boat
| stuff?
|
| The Chinese ones were $1.20 for a dozen while the USA made ones at Ace
| were $1.10 EACH. *Yeah, I got ripped off but I needed them NOW and
| will not put chinese crap on my boat.- Hide quoted text -
|
| - Show quoted text -
|
| $1.10? i think that's plenty, but when you think about it, it *really
| isn't that high for quality stainless. At least you know they arn't
| going to have their plating turn to corrosion, then powder, then rust
| the first month left out in the humidity.
|
| Well, I've gotten some of these "higher" quality SS fasteners and they
| are magnetic - which means they will rust.- Hide quoted text -
|
| - Show quoted text -
|
|evidently not higher quality enough.
|
|surgical wingnuts?
|
|hmmm, could their be a market for them?

They may be a more expensive grade of stainless... stronger, but in
the real world you can't get something for nothing and sometimes
corrosion resistance is forsaken for a higher tensile strength.....

You know, that's a good point.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

very good point, indeed!

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:22:33 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 05:06:22 -0700 (PDT), Tim penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Apr 21, 5:13 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
|wrote:
| On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 20:21:04 -0700 (PDT), Tim
| wrote:
|
|
|
|
|
| On Apr 20, 10:17 pm, wrote:
| On Apr 20, 11:12 pm, "David E. Powell"
| wrote:
|
| On Apr 20, 9:49 pm, wrote:
|
| Went to buy some stainless 1/4-20 wingnuts from Home Depot for
my
| boat (Tolman Skiff). All thjey had were some really crappy
looking
| ones. Sure enough, made in China. I threw them back on the shelf
| figuring they were probably pot metal. Cannot trust Chinese made
| stuff. Went to Ace and bought some US made ones. They cost a lot
| more but I know they are real SS.
| Th cheapo Chinese stuff really costs a LOT more than the US made
stuff
| if you figure you will likely need to replace the Chinese stuff.
| Besides, when I am offshore, I want to be sure my boat will stay
| together. My life is worth paying a little more.
|
| Chinese tool quality has come up quite a bit in the past 10-15
years
| but I haven't dealt with their fasteners yet, all of the nails and
| screws I use are Made in USA. I agree with your point about
| replacement being an issue and with a boat, going with the best
you
| can find is very important. Has anyone else here used Chinese boat
| stuff?
|
| The Chinese ones were $1.20 for a dozen while the USA made ones at
Ace
| were $1.10 EACH. Yeah, I got ripped off but I needed them NOW and
| will not put chinese crap on my boat.- Hide quoted text -
|
| - Show quoted text -
|
| $1.10? i think that's plenty, but when you think about it, it really
| isn't that high for quality stainless. At least you know they arn't
| going to have their plating turn to corrosion, then powder, then rust
| the first month left out in the humidity.
|
| Well, I've gotten some of these "higher" quality SS fasteners and they
| are magnetic - which means they will rust.- Hide quoted text -
|
| - Show quoted text -
|
|evidently not higher quality enough.
|
|surgical wingnuts?
|
|hmmm, could their be a market for them?

They may be a more expensive grade of stainless... stronger, but in
the real world you can't get something for nothing and sometimes
corrosion resistance is forsaken for a higher tensile strength.....

You know, that's a good point.

You do have a good point, but it's messing your hair. 8-)

On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:06:33 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:22:33 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 05:06:22 -0700 (PDT), Tim penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Apr 21, 5:13 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
|wrote:
| On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 20:21:04 -0700 (PDT), Tim
| wrote:
|
|
|
|
|
| On Apr 20, 10:17 pm, wrote:
| On Apr 20, 11:12 pm, "David E. Powell"
| wrote:
|
| On Apr 20, 9:49 pm, wrote:
|
| Went to buy some stainless 1/4-20 wingnuts from Home Depot for
my
| boat (Tolman Skiff). All thjey had were some really crappy
looking
| ones. Sure enough, made in China. I threw them back on the shelf
| figuring they were probably pot metal. Cannot trust Chinese made
| stuff. Went to Ace and bought some US made ones. They cost a lot
| more but I know they are real SS.
| Th cheapo Chinese stuff really costs a LOT more than the US made
stuff
| if you figure you will likely need to replace the Chinese stuff.
| Besides, when I am offshore, I want to be sure my boat will stay
| together. My life is worth paying a little more.
|
| Chinese tool quality has come up quite a bit in the past 10-15
years
| but I haven't dealt with their fasteners yet, all of the nails and
| screws I use are Made in USA. I agree with your point about
| replacement being an issue and with a boat, going with the best
you
| can find is very important. Has anyone else here used Chinese boat
| stuff?
|
| The Chinese ones were $1.20 for a dozen while the USA made ones at
Ace
| were $1.10 EACH. Yeah, I got ripped off but I needed them NOW and
| will not put chinese crap on my boat.- Hide quoted text -
|
| - Show quoted text -
|
| $1.10? i think that's plenty, but when you think about it, it really
| isn't that high for quality stainless. At least you know they arn't
| going to have their plating turn to corrosion, then powder, then rust
| the first month left out in the humidity.
|
| Well, I've gotten some of these "higher" quality SS fasteners and they
| are magnetic - which means they will rust.- Hide quoted text -
|
| - Show quoted text -
|
|evidently not higher quality enough.
|
|surgical wingnuts?
|
|hmmm, could their be a market for them?

They may be a more expensive grade of stainless... stronger, but in
the real world you can't get something for nothing and sometimes
corrosion resistance is forsaken for a higher tensile strength.....

You know, that's a good point.

You do have a good point, but it's messing your hair. 8-)

Mess this Hair Boy. :)