On Apr 1, 12:18*pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 09:32:05 -0700 (PDT), "Robert M. Gary"





wrote:
On Mar 30, 7:35*am, HK wrote:
Security flap arises over nipple ring removal
Washington Times

I'll post this because I'm sure it will apply to boats as well. The
TSAand US Customs is currently proposing new rules for traveling
overseas by private vehicles (airplanes, and probably boats). They are
asking that you provide them a list of passengers 1 week before you
depart and then you stop at US Customs as your last stop in the US for
them to give final approval of the passengers leaving the US. It will
be first first time in US history that Americans have had to ask
permission to leave the US. I'm sure they will examine the examples of
the Soviet Union on how to do such.

-Robert

It would be nice if they asked all those coming north at the Mexican border
for a passport.

I thought they were. I was in Mexico 2 weeks ago. When I came back I
cleared customs in Browns Field airport in San Diego. The custom's guy
actually did check all of our passports. There is also a new aircraft
entry form. Looks like the old Custom's form but its now a TSA form.
To be honest, I get more questions at Customs returning from Canada
than Mexico. The Mexicans are pretty brutal on illegals entering
Mexico (if caught) but the Canadians really don't care. Its not
uncommon to hear of illegals entering Mexico from the South on train
cars to be pushed under the train by Mexican officials.

-Robert

On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 09:04:06 -0700 (PDT), "Robert M. Gary"
wrote:

On Apr 1, 12:18*pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 09:32:05 -0700 (PDT), "Robert M. Gary"





wrote:
On Mar 30, 7:35*am, HK wrote:
Security flap arises over nipple ring removal
Washington Times

I'll post this because I'm sure it will apply to boats as well. The
TSAand US Customs is currently proposing new rules for traveling
overseas by private vehicles (airplanes, and probably boats). They are
asking that you provide them a list of passengers 1 week before you
depart and then you stop at US Customs as your last stop in the US for
them to give final approval of the passengers leaving the US. It will
be first first time in US history that Americans have had to ask
permission to leave the US. I'm sure they will examine the examples of
the Soviet Union on how to do such.

-Robert

It would be nice if they asked all those coming north at the Mexican border
for a passport.

I thought they were. I was in Mexico 2 weeks ago. When I came back I
cleared customs in Browns Field airport in San Diego. The custom's guy
actually did check all of our passports. There is also a new aircraft
entry form. Looks like the old Custom's form but its now a TSA form.
To be honest, I get more questions at Customs returning from Canada
than Mexico. The Mexicans are pretty brutal on illegals entering
Mexico (if caught) but the Canadians really don't care. Its not
uncommon to hear of illegals entering Mexico from the South on train
cars to be pushed under the train by Mexican officials.

-Robert

Actually, I was being a little facetious. I was referring more to the
millions of illegals coming across that border.
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)

On Apr 2, 12:55*pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 09:04:06 -0700 (PDT), "Robert M. Gary"

Actually, I was being a little facetious. I was referring more to the
millions of illegals coming across that border.

True, the Mexican's don't care. Mexicans are very patriotic so they
consider it a bad thing when someone leaves Mexico for the US. I think
their attitude is that if those guys want to abandon their home
country of Mexico then let them ago. The gov't of Mexico certainly
isn't going to stop them.


-Robert

Robert M. Gary wrote:
On Apr 2, 12:55 pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 09:04:06 -0700 (PDT), "Robert M. Gary"

Actually, I was being a little facetious. I was referring more to the
millions of illegals coming across that border.

True, the Mexican's don't care. Mexicans are very patriotic so they
consider it a bad thing when someone leaves Mexico for the US. I think
their attitude is that if those guys want to abandon their home
country of Mexico then let them ago. The gov't of Mexico certainly
isn't going to stop them.


-Robert


Can we get back to discussing nipples and nipple rings? I'd rather this
discussion stay with the aesthetic rather than the political. Thanks.

HK wrote:
Robert M. Gary wrote:
On Apr 2, 12:55 pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 09:04:06 -0700 (PDT), "Robert M. Gary"

Actually, I was being a little facetious. I was referring more to the
millions of illegals coming across that border.

True, the Mexican's don't care. Mexicans are very patriotic so they
consider it a bad thing when someone leaves Mexico for the US. I think
their attitude is that if those guys want to abandon their home
country of Mexico then let them ago. The gov't of Mexico certainly
isn't going to stop them.


-Robert


Can we get back to discussing nipples and nipple rings? I'd rather this
discussion stay with the aesthetic rather than the political. Thanks.


In fact, how about posting some photos of attractively ringed nipples?

On Apr 2, 1:06*pm, HK wrote:
HK wrote:

In fact, how about posting some photos of attractively ringed nipples?

That's the visual I had when I read the story. Of course we invision a
hot young girl with firm breasts. In fact it could just as easily be a
freaky fat chick with saggy stuff.

-Robert

Robert M. Gary wrote:
On Apr 2, 1:06 pm, HK wrote:
HK wrote:

In fact, how about posting some photos of attractively ringed nipples?

That's the visual I had when I read the story. Of course we invision a
hot young girl with firm breasts. In fact it could just as easily be a
freaky fat chick with saggy stuff.

-Robert


Well, that depends upon who posts the photos...

"HK" wrote in message
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Canuck57 wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Security flap arises over nipple ring removal
Washington Times


March 29, 2008

By Audrey Hudson - The Transportation Security Administration (TSA)
yesterday stood by its decision to require a Texas airline passenger to
remove a nipple ring with pliers before boarding a flight, but says more
discreet screening procedures may allow sensitively placed piercings to
be worn in the future.

"TSA acknowledges that our procedures caused difficulty for the
passenger involved and regrets her discomfort with the situation," said
TSA spokesman Christopher White.

"In the future, TSA's procedures will meet the security need while
giving additional flexibility for this kind of screening situation," Mr.
White said. "This could include a visual inspection without removal."

Mandi Hamlin, 37-year-old graphics artist, said she was forced to remove
the nipple ring with pliers on Feb. 24 before boarding Southwest Flight
35 from Lubbock, Texas, to Dallas.

Gloria Allred, Ms. Hamlin's lawyer, read from a letter to the TSA during
a video teleconference Thursday asking the TSA's Office of Civil Rights
and Liberties to investigate the incident.

"After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the
piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to
remove," Ms. Allred said in the letter.

"Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not remove it
without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to her," said
Ms. Allred.

"This encounter was one that she will never forget," Ms. Allred said.
"The conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary. The last time that I
checked a nipple was not a dangerous weapon."

Mr. White said security screeners properly followed procedures during
the incident when they asked Ms. Hamlin to remove the piercings. One was
removed easily, but the skin had grown over the second piercing stud and
Ms. Hamlin asked for the pliers to remove it.

The TSA defended the extra scrutiny, saying that terrorists have hidden
dangerous items in "sensitive areas of the body" in the past.

"We have a duty to the American public to resolve any alarm that we
discover," Mr. White said. "Incidents of female terrorists hiding
explosives in sensitive areas are on the rise all over the world. This
scenario must be addressed at our nation's airports."

On Nov 28, 2007, in Sri Lanka, a woman linked to the Tamil Tiger
terrorist organization, detonated a bomb from her bra killing herself
and one other.

TSA's Web site informs passengers that body piercing may prompt
additional screening procedures and that they may be asked "to remove
your body piercing in private as an alternative to a pat-down search."

"Our security officers are well trained to screen individuals with body
piercing in sensitive areas with dignity and respect while ensuring a
high level of security," Mr. White said.

I wonder if C4 comes in liquid form. Might get Pam Anderson to remove
them.....

Hahahaha....

Next thing you know you will have to get an enema before flying.


Not that *any* of the TSA nonsense makes commercial flight safer. What a
crock "Homeland Security" is.

It is. It is a hoot though to see a Muslim patting down a Christian nun.

Saw that last year, almost fell over a laughing in a real fit. I actually
had to kneel down... being asked to move on...

"HK" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:


I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any
other security agencies have had no effect.


Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies it
controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country.

Most don't realize it, but Saudi Arabia, a so called "ally" of the west is
Muslim, the terrorists were Muslim and no Muslims turn in terrorists... what
am I missing? No Bin Laden on the block aft 9/11?

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...02797772997781

Maybe the attack is financial. Raise the price of oil, protect Muslims in
Sudan and Saudi Arabia.... while we pay for it. Maybe we are being played
like a piano.

Maybe a nuke or 3 dozen or so is in order. Let the UN whine after the fact.

"John H." wrote in message
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On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 09:32:05 -0700 (PDT), "Robert M. Gary"
wrote:

On Mar 30, 7:35 am, HK wrote:
Security flap arises over nipple ring removal
Washington Times

I'll post this because I'm sure it will apply to boats as well. The
TSA and US Customs is currently proposing new rules for traveling
overseas by private vehicles (airplanes, and probably boats). They are
asking that you provide them a list of passengers 1 week before you
depart and then you stop at US Customs as your last stop in the US for
them to give final approval of the passengers leaving the US. It will
be first first time in US history that Americans have had to ask
permission to leave the US. I'm sure they will examine the examples of
the Soviet Union on how to do such.

-Robert

It would be nice if they asked all those coming north at the Mexican
border
for a passport.
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)

Hell, I came back from Montana late last year from Christmas shopping, and
all Canadian customs was worried about was GST (taxes), namely was the truck
I went down with mine when I went down. I could have said I had Bin Laden
in the back but I had GST to pay and I think I would have gotten through.

Needless to say I was clean, inside our restrictive limits. Love shopping
USA.