John H. wrote:


I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any
other security agencies have had no effect.


Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies it
controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country.

"HK" wrote in message
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John H. wrote:


I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any
other security agencies have had no effect.


Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies it
controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country.

It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all*
attacks.

D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:

I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any
other security agencies have had no effect.

Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies it
controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country.

It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all*
attacks.




The only reason al Qaeda hasn't mounted a large-scale attack is because
it doesn't want to.

Al-Qaeda grooming militants who 'look western': CIA chief

8 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AFP) — The head of the main US spy agency has warned that
Al-Qaeda is training operatives who "look western" and could enter the
United States undetected to conduct terrorist attacks.

Central Intelligence Agency Director General Michael Hayden also said
the terror network, which over the past 18 months has established a
"safe haven" in Pakistan's tribal areas along the Afghanistan border,
has shed its operational reliance on mastermind Osama bin Laden.

"They are bringing operatives into that region for training --
operatives that, a phrase I would use, wouldn't attract your attention
if they were going through the customs line at Dulles (airport near
Washington DC) with you," Hayden told NBC television Sunday.

The new recruits "look western" and "would be able to come into this
country ... without attracting the kind of attention that others might,"
he said.

Hayden pointed to improved intelligence techniques in the federally
administered tribal areas, due to "good cooperation from a variety of
allies" in Pakistan's tribal regions, for the information on the
Al-Qaeda recruits.

But much of the improvement was merely regaining ground that was lost
through what Hayden described as an "absolutely disastrous" hands-off
policy in the region by Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf in 2006
that led to Al-Qaeda's increased organizational ability there.

"He was, in fact, pulling forces and the writ of the Pakistani
government back from the tribal region, and Al-Qaeda and the Taliban
were having more and more free reign there."

*In an annual threat assessment released in February, US intelligence
reported it had detected an influx of new western recruits to Al-Qaeda
safe havens in Pakistan's federally administered tribal areas since 2006.

"Al-Qaeda is improving the last key aspect of its ability to attack the
US -- the identification, training, and positioning of operatives for an
attack in the homeland," the report said.*

In presenting the report to Congress, US intelligence chief Mike
McConnell also said that plots uncovered in New Jersey and Illinois this
year "highlights the diverse threat posed by homeland-based radical
Muslims inspired by extremist ideology."

Hayden also stressed that while he was confident Al-Qaeda mastermind
Osama bin Laden was still hiding out near the Afghanistan-Pakistan
border, the Saudi-born fighter no longer has operational control over
the terror network.

This now lies with Egyptian militants, he argued, although he said bin
Laden remains an "iconic figure," and the CIA is making "every effort to
kill or capture" him along with his Al-Qaeda lieutenants.

"Let me use (the term) iconic figure. His presence ... gives a certain
punch, a certain image, to the global movement," Hayden said.

"But he's not operationally involved. An awful lot of the operational
force of Al-Qaeda -- the Arabic name is ... often finished by the
country they are from -- an awful lot of them are al-Masris, which means
'the Egyptians.'"

Al-Qaeda's number two is Ayman Al-Zawahiri, an Egyptian militant who the
US director of national intelligence Michael McConnell last September
called "the real intellectual leader of Al-Qaeda."

Bin Laden has claimed responsibility for the September 11, 2001, attacks
on the United States, which killed nearly 3,000 people and prompted the
US-led invasion of Afghanistan.

"D.Duck" wrote in message
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John H. wrote:


I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any
other security agencies have had no effect.


Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies it
controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country.

It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all*
attacks.


True.

With some regret I finally put Harry in my Bozo bin along with the sneaker
salesman from China.
After 8 years of his constant negativity about anything and everything about
our country and it's
government, I had enough. Healthy debate is fine, but daily doses of
anti-everything spin gets old.

If things continue as they are currently heading and the Dems lose this
election (that should have been theirs for the taking), Harry is going to
have a really bad day. He can complain to the sneaker guy.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
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John H. wrote:

I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any
other security agencies have had no effect.

Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies it
controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country.
It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all*
attacks.


True.

With some regret I finally put Harry in my Bozo bin along with the sneaker
salesman from China.
After 8 years of his constant negativity about anything and everything about
our country and it's
government, I had enough. Healthy debate is fine, but daily doses of
anti-everything spin gets old.

If things continue as they are currently heading and the Dems lose this
election (that should have been theirs for the taking), Harry is going to
have a really bad day. He can complain to the sneaker guy.

Eisboch




It's not this country that has screwed up royally, it is the executive
branch of our government, and its enablers in Congress.

Some 70% of Americans believe the Bush Administration has been taking
this country in the wrong direction.

If we have honest elections this fall, we will have a Democratic
president in January and the eight year national nightmare will begin to
subside.

I realize the majority of posters in this newsgroup are hardcore
Republicans. I'll be sure to feel your pain the next eight years.

:)

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"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
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John H. wrote:


I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and
any
other security agencies have had no effect.


Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies it
controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country.

It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all*
attacks.


True.

With some regret I finally put Harry in my Bozo bin along with the sneaker
salesman from China.
After 8 years of his constant negativity about anything and everything
about our country and it's
government, I had enough. Healthy debate is fine, but daily doses of
anti-everything spin gets old.

If things continue as they are currently heading and the Dems lose this
election (that should have been theirs for the taking), Harry is going to
have a really bad day. He can complain to the sneaker guy.

Eisboch

What keywords did you use to get rid of sneaker guy?
Harry's been in and out of my bozo bin. I take him out when it gets slow
here. He should probably be left in. But he's fun to play with occasionally.

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:03:59 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
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John H. wrote:

I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any
other security agencies have had no effect.

Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies it
controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country.
It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all*
attacks.


Whoa. There weren't any terrorist attacks on Americans during the last
Democrat administration!

:)


How many Americans were killed on U.S. soil during foreign terrorist
attacks during the last *Democratic* administration, bozo?

Jim wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
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John H. wrote:


I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI,
and any
other security agencies have had no effect.


Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies
it controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country.

It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all*
attacks.


True.

With some regret I finally put Harry in my Bozo bin along with the
sneaker salesman from China.
After 8 years of his constant negativity about anything and everything
about our country and it's
government, I had enough. Healthy debate is fine, but daily doses of
anti-everything spin gets old.

If things continue as they are currently heading and the Dems lose
this election (that should have been theirs for the taking), Harry is
going to have a really bad day. He can complain to the sneaker guy.

Eisboch

What keywords did you use to get rid of sneaker guy?
Harry's been in and out of my bozo bin. I take him out when it gets slow
here. He should probably be left in. But he's fun to play with
occasionally.




Probably "Florida Jim." That usually puts the trash out on the curb.

On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 07:25:20 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Mar 31, 11:07*am, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 05:23:08 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Mar 30, 8:26*pm, "JimH" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message

m...

Canuck57 wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Security flap arises over nipple ring removal
Washington Times

March 29, 2008

By Audrey Hudson - The Transportation Security Administration (TSA)
yesterday stood by its decision to require a Texas airline passenger to
remove a nipple ring with pliers before boarding a flight, but says more
discreet screening procedures may allow sensitively placed piercings to
be worn in the future.

"TSA acknowledges that our procedures caused difficulty for the
passenger involved and regrets her discomfort with the situation," said
TSA spokesman Christopher White.

"In the future, TSA's procedures will meet the security need while
giving additional flexibility for this kind of screening situation," Mr.
White said. "This could include a visual inspection without removal."

Mandi Hamlin, 37-year-old graphics artist, said she was forced to remove
the nipple ring with pliers on Feb. 24 before boarding Southwest Flight
35 from Lubbock, Texas, to Dallas.

Gloria Allred, Ms. Hamlin's lawyer, read from a letter to the TSA during
a video teleconference Thursday asking the TSA's Office of Civil Rights
and Liberties to investigate the incident.

"After nipple rings are inserted, the skin can often heal around the
piercing, and the rings can be extremely difficult and painful to
remove," Ms. Allred said in the letter.

"Still crying, she informed the TSA officer that she could not remove it
without the help of pliers, and the officer gave a pair to her," said
Ms. Allred.

"This encounter was one that she will never forget," Ms. Allred said.
"The conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary. The last time that I
checked a nipple was not a dangerous weapon."

Mr. White said security screeners properly followed procedures during
the incident when they asked Ms. Hamlin to remove the piercings. One was
removed easily, but the skin had grown over the second piercing stud and
Ms. Hamlin asked for the pliers to remove it.

The TSA defended the extra scrutiny, saying that terrorists have hidden
dangerous items in "sensitive areas of the body" in the past.

"We have a duty to the American public to resolve any alarm that we
discover," Mr. White said. "Incidents of female terrorists hiding
explosives in sensitive areas are on the rise all over the world. This
scenario must be addressed at our nation's airports."

On Nov 28, 2007, in Sri Lanka, a woman linked to the Tamil Tiger
terrorist organization, detonated a bomb from her bra killing herself
and one other.

TSA's Web site informs passengers that body piercing may prompt
additional screening procedures and that they may be asked "to remove
your body piercing in private as an alternative to a pat-down search."

"Our security officers are well trained to screen individuals with body
piercing in sensitive areas with dignity and respect while ensuring a
high level of security," Mr. White said.

I wonder if C4 comes in liquid form. *Might get Pam Anderson to remove
them.....

Hahahaha....

Next thing you know you will have to get an enema before flying.

Not that *any* of the TSA nonsense makes commercial flight safer. What a
crock "Homeland Security" is.

No terrorist attacks on US soil or planes since 9-11.

A crock?

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Please show us what evidence you have that the lack of terrorist
attacks on US soil is the direct result of the TSA or Homeland
Security.

I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any
other security agencies have had no effect.

The terrorists have just become a bunch of nice guys.

This ABC story is all a lie.http://tinyurl.com/32jwx7

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John *H*
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Where did I EVER say such a thing? You shouldn't go around putting
words in people's mouths.

I put no words in your mouth. I simply said you were right. How could you
possibly disagree with that?

If you want to be wrong, that's OK too. I'm easy to get along with.
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)

On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:03:59 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:


I think you and Harry are right, Loogy. TSA, Bush, the CIA, FBI, and any
other security agencies have had no effect.


Nothing the Bush misAdministration has done and nothing the agencies it
controls have done will prevent an al Qaeda attack on this country.

It is virtually impossible for *any* administration to prevent *all*
attacks.


Whoa. There weren't any terrorist attacks on Americans during the last
Democrat administration!

:)
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)