On Mar 24, 1:41*pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in messagenewsN6dnRjYxMO6fHranZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@comca st.com...





HK wrote:
John wrote:
LOL I do support and had customer complaining that when he upgraded code
on our equipment some of his windows 98 quit working....
* * "jamesgangnc"
* * wrote in ...
* * MS has about some version of it's os on about 90% of all the
* * personal computers. *That is hundreds of millions of installations.
There will always be people that have some combination of hardward
* * and other software that ms did not anticipate and will cause the
* * operation system to do something wrong.
* * * * *At the same time lots of organizations will delay implementing
a new
* * ms operating system. *It generally has a lot more to do with their
* * technical staff being familiar with the new software or their in
* * house applications not being ready for the new os than problems.
Though some will complain about the problems in the new os as well.
* * * * *That is not a new phenomenon. *It has been happening since
windows
* * 3.1. *As every version has matured the problems have declined.
Simply because of the sheer volume of installations problems get
* * more press that the other os'. *For everyone with a problem there
* * are 10s of thousands that have no problems at all. *Vista is close
* * to reaching the 100 million install mark. *Obviously it is not a
crisis.

I spent about an hour this past weekend reading about some of the
problems *some* Apple users are having with the latest release of OS X,
aka Leopard. Some Apple folk are having some serious issues. My guess is
that if Apple had the same sized user base for its operating systems as
Microsoft does, and if those Apple users were similar to Windows users,
the number and seriousness of problems would be similar.

If memory serves, I read where Apple has under 5% market share of desktop
PC operating systems.

This used to be a boater newsgroup. There's no requirement that posters
here have any knowledge of a computer OS or in fact have a boat. We have
plenty of boatless posters here who also present as too slow to use a
computer, too.

I wonder who started the discussion on how GREAT Vista was? *Ohhhh yeah,
now I remember, it was Harry Krause. *You are just upset because most
people don't think it offers any advantages over WinXP, but definitely has
a ton of bugs that MS has not been worked out. *Univ. of Penn IT dept.
does not recommend Vista and does not recommend Vista SP1.

ZDNet conducted a survey and 80% of the IT depts. said they had will NOT
be updating to Vista, and they will continue using the same OS they
currently are using.

Why do you have a problem with what OS another person may be using?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Read, Jim. It's people like ZDNet, 80% of IT departments, Penn State
and even Microsoft themselves that have a problem with Vista.

JimH wrote:
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On Mar 24, 1:41 pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in
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HK wrote:
John wrote:
LOL I do support and had customer complaining that when he upgraded
code
on our equipment some of his windows 98 quit working....
"jamesgangnc"
wrote in ...
MS has about some version of it's os on about 90% of all the
personal computers. That is hundreds of millions of installations.
There will always be people that have some combination of hardward
and other software that ms did not anticipate and will cause the
operation system to do something wrong.
At the same time lots of organizations will delay implementing
a new
ms operating system. It generally has a lot more to do with their
technical staff being familiar with the new software or their in
house applications not being ready for the new os than problems.
Though some will complain about the problems in the new os as well.
That is not a new phenomenon. It has been happening since
windows
3.1. As every version has matured the problems have declined.
Simply because of the sheer volume of installations problems get
more press that the other os'. For everyone with a problem there
are 10s of thousands that have no problems at all. Vista is close
to reaching the 100 million install mark. Obviously it is not a
crisis.
I spent about an hour this past weekend reading about some of the
problems *some* Apple users are having with the latest release of OS X,
aka Leopard. Some Apple folk are having some serious issues. My guess
is
that if Apple had the same sized user base for its operating systems as
Microsoft does, and if those Apple users were similar to Windows users,
the number and seriousness of problems would be similar.
If memory serves, I read where Apple has under 5% market share of
desktop
PC operating systems.
This used to be a boater newsgroup. There's no requirement that posters
here have any knowledge of a computer OS or in fact have a boat. We
have
plenty of boatless posters here who also present as too slow to use a
computer, too.
I wonder who started the discussion on how GREAT Vista was? Ohhhh yeah,
now I remember, it was Harry Krause. You are just upset because most
people don't think it offers any advantages over WinXP, but definitely
has
a ton of bugs that MS has not been worked out. Univ. of Penn IT dept.
does not recommend Vista and does not recommend Vista SP1.
ZDNet conducted a survey and 80% of the IT depts. said they had will NOT
be updating to Vista, and they will continue using the same OS they
currently are using.
Why do you have a problem with what OS another person may be using?- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Read, Jim. It's people like ZDNet, 80% of IT departments, Penn State
and even Microsoft themselves that have a problem with Vista.
============

My son is not having any problem with it, nor are most users of VISTA in a
couple of computer forums I visit.




Your son probably doesn't spend much time brewing beer or smoking
marijuana. :)

On Mar 24, 2:12*pm, "JimH" wrote:
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On Mar 24, 1:41 pm, "JimH" wrote:





"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in
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HK wrote:
John wrote:
LOL I do support and had customer complaining that when he upgraded
code
on our equipment some of his windows 98 quit working....
"jamesgangnc"
wrote in ...
MS has about some version of it's os on about 90% of all the
personal computers. That is hundreds of millions of installations.
There will always be people that have some combination of hardward
and other software that ms did not anticipate and will cause the
operation system to do something wrong.
At the same time lots of organizations will delay implementing
a new
ms operating system. It generally has a lot more to do with their
technical staff being familiar with the new software or their in
house applications not being ready for the new os than problems.
Though some will complain about the problems in the new os as well.
That is not a new phenomenon. It has been happening since
windows
3.1. As every version has matured the problems have declined.
Simply because of the sheer volume of installations problems get
more press that the other os'. For everyone with a problem there
are 10s of thousands that have no problems at all. Vista is close
to reaching the 100 million install mark. Obviously it is not a
crisis.

I spent about an hour this past weekend reading about some of the
problems *some* Apple users are having with the latest release of OS X,
aka Leopard. Some Apple folk are having some serious issues. My guess
is
that if Apple had the same sized user base for its operating systems as
Microsoft does, and if those Apple users were similar to Windows users,
the number and seriousness of problems would be similar.

If memory serves, I read where Apple has under 5% market share of
desktop
PC operating systems.

This used to be a boater newsgroup. There's no requirement that posters
here have any knowledge of a computer OS or in fact have a boat. We
have
plenty of boatless posters here who also present as too slow to use a
computer, too.

I wonder who started the discussion on how GREAT Vista was? Ohhhh yeah,
now I remember, it was Harry Krause. You are just upset because most
people don't think it offers any advantages over WinXP, but definitely
has
a ton of bugs that MS has not been worked out. Univ. of Penn IT dept.
does not recommend Vista and does not recommend Vista SP1.

ZDNet conducted a survey and 80% of the IT depts. said they had will NOT
be updating to Vista, and they will continue using the same OS they
currently are using.

Why do you have a problem with what OS another person may be using?- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Read, Jim. It's people like ZDNet, 80% of IT departments, Penn State
and even Microsoft themselves that have a problem with Vista.
============

My son is not having any problem with it, nor are most users of VISTA in a
couple of computer forums I visit.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I would guess not, what with digging ditches and all.

http://www.theinquirer.net/en/inquir...-vista-failure

http://badvista.fsf.org/rss_manager....21.0028080323/

http://www.computerworld.com/action/...cleId=1099 25

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,14...n/article.html

http://www.garagespin.com/archives/m...hree-acts.html

http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/softwar...9272810,00.htm

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Micro...ed-78198.shtml

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columni...problems_N.htm

http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/m...ves/132891.asp

Which of these do you and your son know more about computers than?

On Mar 24, 12:49*pm, HK wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
news
HK wrote:
John wrote:
LOL I do support and had customer complaining that when he upgraded code
on our equipment some of his windows 98 quit working....
* * "jamesgangnc"
* * wrote in ...
* * MS has about some version of it's os on about 90% of all the
* * personal computers. *That is hundreds of millions of installations.
There will always be people that have some combination of hardward
* * and other software that ms did not anticipate and will cause the
* * operation system to do something wrong.
* * * * *At the same time lots of organizations will delay implementing
a new
* * ms operating system. *It generally has a lot more to do with their
* * technical staff being familiar with the new software or their in
* * house applications not being ready for the new os than problems.
Though some will complain about the problems in the new os as well.
* * * * *That is not a new phenomenon. *It has been happening since
windows
* * 3.1. *As every version has matured the problems have declined.
Simply because of the sheer volume of installations problems get
* * more press that the other os'. *For everyone with a problem there
* * are 10s of thousands that have no problems at all. *Vista is close
* * to reaching the 100 million install mark. *Obviously it is not a
crisis.

I spent about an hour this past weekend reading about some of the
problems *some* Apple users are having with the latest release of OS X,
aka Leopard. Some Apple folk are having some serious issues. My guess is
that if Apple had the same sized user base for its operating systems as
Microsoft does, and if those Apple users were similar to Windows users,
the number and seriousness of problems would be similar.

If memory serves, I read where Apple has under 5% market share of desktop
PC operating systems.

This used to be a boater newsgroup. There's no requirement that posters
here have any knowledge of a computer OS or in fact have a boat. We have
plenty of boatless posters here who also present as too slow to use a
computer, too.
I wonder who started the discussion on how GREAT Vista was? *Ohhhh yeah,
now I remember, it was Harry Krause. *You are just upset because most
people don't think it offers any advantages over WinXP, but definitely has
a ton of bugs that MS has not been worked out. *Univ. of Penn IT dept..
does not recommend Vista and does not recommend Vista SP1.

ZDNet conducted a survey and 80% of the IT depts. said they had will NOT
be updating to Vista, and they will continue using the same OS they
currently are using.

Why do you have a problem with what OS another person may be using?

Because he doesn't like me or your son, *and* he is in no position to
discuss boats.- Hide quoted text -

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hey Harry, Do you ever wonder about your son?

On Mar 24, 2:54*pm, "JimH" wrote:
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On Mar 24, 2:12 pm, "JimH" wrote:





wrote in message

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On Mar 24, 1:41 pm, "JimH" wrote:

"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in
messagenewsN6dnRjYxMO6fHranZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@comca st.com...

HK wrote:
John wrote:
LOL I do support and had customer complaining that when he upgraded
code
on our equipment some of his windows 98 quit working....
"jamesgangnc"
wrote in ...
MS has about some version of it's os on about 90% of all the
personal computers. That is hundreds of millions of installations.
There will always be people that have some combination of hardward
and other software that ms did not anticipate and will cause the
operation system to do something wrong.
At the same time lots of organizations will delay implementing
a new
ms operating system. It generally has a lot more to do with their
technical staff being familiar with the new software or their in
house applications not being ready for the new os than problems.
Though some will complain about the problems in the new os as well..
That is not a new phenomenon. It has been happening since
windows
3.1. As every version has matured the problems have declined.
Simply because of the sheer volume of installations problems get
more press that the other os'. For everyone with a problem there
are 10s of thousands that have no problems at all. Vista is close
to reaching the 100 million install mark. Obviously it is not a
crisis.

I spent about an hour this past weekend reading about some of the
problems *some* Apple users are having with the latest release of OS
X,
aka Leopard. Some Apple folk are having some serious issues. My guess
is
that if Apple had the same sized user base for its operating systems
as
Microsoft does, and if those Apple users were similar to Windows
users,
the number and seriousness of problems would be similar.

If memory serves, I read where Apple has under 5% market share of
desktop
PC operating systems.

This used to be a boater newsgroup. There's no requirement that
posters
here have any knowledge of a computer OS or in fact have a boat. We
have
plenty of boatless posters here who also present as too slow to use a
computer, too.

I wonder who started the discussion on how GREAT Vista was? Ohhhh
yeah,
now I remember, it was Harry Krause. You are just upset because most
people don't think it offers any advantages over WinXP, but definitely
has
a ton of bugs that MS has not been worked out. Univ. of Penn IT dept..
does not recommend Vista and does not recommend Vista SP1.

ZDNet conducted a survey and 80% of the IT depts. said they had will
NOT
be updating to Vista, and they will continue using the same OS they
currently are using.

Why do you have a problem with what OS another person may be using?-
Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Read, Jim. It's people like ZDNet, 80% of IT departments, Penn State
and even Microsoft themselves that have a problem with Vista.
============

My son is not having any problem with it, nor are most users of VISTA in a
couple of computer forums I visit.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I would guess not, what with digging ditches and all.

http://www.theinquirer.net/en/inquir...microsoft-admi...

http://badvista.fsf.org/rss_manager....709/2007-04-21....

http://www.computerworld.com/action/...viewArticleBas...

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,14...n/article.html

http://www.garagespin.com/archives/m...ta-stinks-trag...

http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/softwar...its-to-Vista-f...

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Micro...lower-than-XP-...

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columni...7-03-02-vista-...

http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/m...ves/132891.asp

Which of these do you and your son know more about computers than?
===================

You just don't get it. * *HE* is not having a problem with it.

I will ask you the same question I asked Reggie...........Why are you so
worried about what others use as their OS?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Read, Jim. It's people like ZDNet, 80% of IT departments, Penn State
and even Microsoft themselves that have a problem with Vista, not
Reggie or I.

JimH wrote:
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On Mar 24, 2:54 pm, "JimH" wrote:
wrote in message

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On Mar 24, 2:12 pm, "JimH" wrote:





wrote in message
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On Mar 24, 1:41 pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in
messagenewsN6dnRjYxMO6fHranZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@comca st.com...
HK wrote:
John wrote:
LOL I do support and had customer complaining that when he
upgraded
code
on our equipment some of his windows 98 quit working....
"jamesgangnc"

wrote in ...
MS has about some version of it's os on about 90% of all the
personal computers. That is hundreds of millions of installations.
There will always be people that have some combination of hardward
and other software that ms did not anticipate and will cause the
operation system to do something wrong.
At the same time lots of organizations will delay implementing
a new
ms operating system. It generally has a lot more to do with their
technical staff being familiar with the new software or their in
house applications not being ready for the new os than problems.
Though some will complain about the problems in the new os as
well.
That is not a new phenomenon. It has been happening since
windows
3.1. As every version has matured the problems have declined.
Simply because of the sheer volume of installations problems get
more press that the other os'. For everyone with a problem there
are 10s of thousands that have no problems at all. Vista is close
to reaching the 100 million install mark. Obviously it is not a
crisis.
I spent about an hour this past weekend reading about some of the
problems *some* Apple users are having with the latest release of
OS
X,
aka Leopard. Some Apple folk are having some serious issues. My
guess
is
that if Apple had the same sized user base for its operating
systems
as
Microsoft does, and if those Apple users were similar to Windows
users,
the number and seriousness of problems would be similar.
If memory serves, I read where Apple has under 5% market share of
desktop
PC operating systems.
This used to be a boater newsgroup. There's no requirement that
posters
here have any knowledge of a computer OS or in fact have a boat. We
have
plenty of boatless posters here who also present as too slow to use
a
computer, too.
I wonder who started the discussion on how GREAT Vista was? Ohhhh
yeah,
now I remember, it was Harry Krause. You are just upset because most
people don't think it offers any advantages over WinXP, but
definitely
has
a ton of bugs that MS has not been worked out. Univ. of Penn IT
dept.
does not recommend Vista and does not recommend Vista SP1.
ZDNet conducted a survey and 80% of the IT depts. said they had will
NOT
be updating to Vista, and they will continue using the same OS they
currently are using.
Why do you have a problem with what OS another person may be using?-
Hide
quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Read, Jim. It's people like ZDNet, 80% of IT departments, Penn State
and even Microsoft themselves that have a problem with Vista.
============
My son is not having any problem with it, nor are most users of VISTA in
a
couple of computer forums I visit.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I would guess not, what with digging ditches and all.

http://www.theinquirer.net/en/inquir...microsoft-admi...

http://badvista.fsf.org/rss_manager....709/2007-04-21....

http://www.computerworld.com/action/...viewArticleBas...

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,14...n/article.html

http://www.garagespin.com/archives/m...ta-stinks-trag...

http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/softwar...its-to-Vista-f...

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Micro...lower-than-XP-...

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columni...7-03-02-vista-...

http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/m...ves/132891.asp

Which of these do you and your son know more about computers than?
===================

You just don't get it. *HE* is not having a problem with it.

I will ask you the same question I asked Reggie...........Why are you so
worried about what others use as their OS?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Read, Jim. It's people like ZDNet, 80% of IT departments, Penn State
and even Microsoft themselves that have a problem with Vista, not
Reggie or I.

=================

Whhoooooooossssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!




You do know, Jim, that with Loogy, you are dealing with a bottom feeder
about equal to that nutcase from "Thailand" who plagued this newsgroup a
year or so ago.

On Mar 24, 4:18*pm, "JimH" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message

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JimH wrote:
wrote in message
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My son is not having any problem with it, nor are most users of VISTA
in a
couple of computer forums I visit.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I would guess not, what with digging ditches and all.
===================

You just don't get it. *HE* is not having a problem with it.

I will ask you the same question I asked Reggie...........Why are you so
worried about what others use as their OS?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Read, Jim. It's people like ZDNet, 80% of IT departments, Penn State
and even Microsoft themselves that have a problem with Vista, not
Reggie or I.

=================

Whhoooooooossssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

You do know, Jim, that with Loogy, you are dealing with a bottom feeder
about equal to that nutcase from "Thailand" who plagued this newsgroup a
year or so ago.

His low blow of calling my son a ditch digger while serving honorably for
our Country as a US Marine defines the type of person Loogie is. * I will
not sink to his level by saying what I really think about him.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Why would you say a thing like that? Do you somehow believe that
digging ditches is less than honorable?
What would you say about some fat short over the hill guy from
Maryland who hides behind his Bozo's bin and insults and calls people
names? Is that honorable?
Or how about you? Telling lies, making up stories and saying nasty
untrue things about people and even stooping so low that you say
things about someone's wife and school aged children. How honorable is
THAT?

JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
wrote in message

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My son is not having any problem with it, nor are most users of VISTA
in a
couple of computer forums I visit.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -


I would guess not, what with digging ditches and all.

===================

You just don't get it. *HE* is not having a problem with it.

I will ask you the same question I asked Reggie...........Why are you so
worried about what others use as their OS?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Read, Jim. It's people like ZDNet, 80% of IT departments, Penn State
and even Microsoft themselves that have a problem with Vista, not
Reggie or I.

=================

Whhoooooooossssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

You do know, Jim, that with Loogy, you are dealing with a bottom feeder
about equal to that nutcase from "Thailand" who plagued this newsgroup a
year or so ago.


His low blow of calling my son a ditch digger while serving honorably for
our Country as a US Marine defines the type of person Loogie is. I will
not sink to his level by saying what I really think about him.




My guess is that Loogy is doped up most of the time, or drunk.

JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
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On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:27:18 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Mar 24, 4:18 pm, "JimH" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message

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JimH wrote:
wrote in message
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My son is not having any problem with it, nor are most users of
VISTA
in a
couple of computer forums I visit.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I would guess not, what with digging ditches and all.
===================
You just don't get it. *HE* is not having a problem with it.
I will ask you the same question I asked Reggie...........Why are
you so
worried about what others use as their OS?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Read, Jim. It's people like ZDNet, 80% of IT departments, Penn State
and even Microsoft themselves that have a problem with Vista, not
Reggie or I.
=================
Whhoooooooossssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
You do know, Jim, that with Loogy, you are dealing with a bottom
feeder
about equal to that nutcase from "Thailand" who plagued this newsgroup
a
year or so ago.
His low blow of calling my son a ditch digger while serving honorably
for
our Country as a US Marine defines the type of person Loogie is. I will
not sink to his level by saying what I really think about him.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Why would you say a thing like that? Do you somehow believe that
digging ditches is less than honorable?
What would you say about some fat short over the hill guy from
Maryland who hides behind his Bozo's bin and insults and calls people
names? Is that honorable?
Or how about you? Telling lies, making up stories and saying nasty
untrue things about people and even stooping so low that you say
things about someone's wife and school aged children. How honorable is
THAT?
Loogy, think about who you're talking to.

They're not worth an ounce of serenity.
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)

Condoning his low blow John?

No need to reply as you are acting just like him by doing nothing but
constantly insulting some folks here.

2 posts by you today.........2 examples of exactly what I said.




It's either that, or his crappy golf game, or his latest cruise on the
U.S.S. Diaper.

On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:27:18 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Mar 24, 4:18*pm, "JimH" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message

...





JimH wrote:
wrote in message
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My son is not having any problem with it, nor are most users of VISTA
in a
couple of computer forums I visit.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I would guess not, what with digging ditches and all.
===================

You just don't get it. *HE* is not having a problem with it.

I will ask you the same question I asked Reggie...........Why are you so
worried about what others use as their OS?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Read, Jim. It's people like ZDNet, 80% of IT departments, Penn State
and even Microsoft themselves that have a problem with Vista, not
Reggie or I.

=================

Whhoooooooossssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

You do know, Jim, that with Loogy, you are dealing with a bottom feeder
about equal to that nutcase from "Thailand" who plagued this newsgroup a
year or so ago.

His low blow of calling my son a ditch digger while serving honorably for
our Country as a US Marine defines the type of person Loogie is. * I will
not sink to his level by saying what I really think about him.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Why would you say a thing like that? Do you somehow believe that
digging ditches is less than honorable?
What would you say about some fat short over the hill guy from
Maryland who hides behind his Bozo's bin and insults and calls people
names? Is that honorable?
Or how about you? Telling lies, making up stories and saying nasty
untrue things about people and even stooping so low that you say
things about someone's wife and school aged children. How honorable is
THAT?

Loogy, think about who you're talking to.

They're not worth an ounce of serenity.
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)