"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:39:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Mar 14, 4:50?pm, Vic Smith wrote:

In the meantime, I'm going down to Florida soon to look at boats.
Still thinking new Carolina Skiff, or recent/new Mac 26.
But I won't know until I get hands on.
What kind of boat do you like?

--Vic-

Something used. reasonable in price maybe even a light fix-r-upper,
18-23 feet prefferably an open bow if small, and a cuddie if large.
With Mercruiser drive.

That's what kind of a boat I like.

Hey, don't you already have it?
If I go with the CS, it'll be this 24'
http://www.carolinaskiff.com/listman...ngs/l0010.html
See where it has a capacity of 18 people?
Since it'll mostly be just me and the wife, the rest of the capacity
will be used for the fish we catch.
So that's 16 people's worth of fish I can bring in.
Big ones, medium ones, and "other."
Cool.

--Vic

I don't know how old you are Vic, but if you plan on keeping that boat until
you get anywhere near the age of a JohnH... you're gonna want & need a
comfortable head for you and the misses... plus what about the afternoon
naps required by the over 60 crowd?
On a boat that size I'd want at least a small cuddy to crawl into for an
occasional overnighter. That could double your cruising/fishing range.

Don White wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:39:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Mar 14, 4:50?pm, Vic Smith wrote:

In the meantime, I'm going down to Florida soon to look at boats.
Still thinking new Carolina Skiff, or recent/new Mac 26.
But I won't know until I get hands on.
What kind of boat do you like?

--Vic-
Something used. reasonable in price maybe even a light fix-r-upper,
18-23 feet prefferably an open bow if small, and a cuddie if large.
With Mercruiser drive.

That's what kind of a boat I like.
Hey, don't you already have it?
If I go with the CS, it'll be this 24'
http://www.carolinaskiff.com/listman...ngs/l0010.html
See where it has a capacity of 18 people?
Since it'll mostly be just me and the wife, the rest of the capacity
will be used for the fish we catch.
So that's 16 people's worth of fish I can bring in.
Big ones, medium ones, and "other."
Cool.

--Vic

I don't know how old you are Vic, but if you plan on keeping that boat until
you get anywhere near the age of a JohnH... you're gonna want & need a
comfortable head for you and the misses... plus what about the afternoon
naps required by the over 60 crowd?
On a boat that size I'd want at least a small cuddy to crawl into for an
occasional overnighter. That could double your cruising/fishing range.




If I still lived in Florida, that's for sure the boat I'd buy for
inshore and nearshore fishing, especially along the ICW. Maybe one a bit
shorter, a 2180DLX. They're pretty close to the perfect "Florida" boat
for that sort of fishing, and you can take them out on the ocean.
They're stable, they don't draw much water, they're easy to clean out
and they're durable.

On the other hand, if you are old and useless, and prone to pretending
you are playing golf, and if you book passage on diaper cruises, Don is
right...you want a head and a place for a nap.

On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 11:46:22 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


Hey, don't you already have it?
If I go with the CS, it'll be this 24'
http://www.carolinaskiff.com/listman...ngs/l0010.html
See where it has a capacity of 18 people?
Since it'll mostly be just me and the wife, the rest of the capacity
will be used for the fish we catch.
So that's 16 people's worth of fish I can bring in.
Big ones, medium ones, and "other."
Cool.


On a boat that size I'd want at least a small cuddy to crawl into for an
occasional overnighter. That could double your cruising/fishing range.

Some of the owners install big biminis for lounging, and I think one
has an additional erectable tent type bimini in the bow. There's so
much space available you have lots of options. Others bring a tent
for overnighters ashore on a beach.
Found this on the CS owners site
http://groups.msn.com/CarolinaSkiffO...nw?albumlist=2
Looks like the only actual CS pictured is number 3, but you get the
idea. Having said that, to me the CS is basically a fishing boat, but
there are possibilities for setting it up for overnighters due to it's
size and openness.
If I knew I'd want to do a lot of overnighters or "cruise" for a week
or so, I'd probably go for something like a Mac 26.
Like the CS, it is very low draft and easy to tuck into shallow
shelter. Both boats are inexpensive and can move cheaply under power.
I'm a Chevy guy.
But the utility of the CS reminds me I did have a '67 Ford F-100. Put
a cab-high cap on the bed and traveled all over the west with the wife
and 2 small kids, sleeping in the truck bed.
One dusk in a Nebraska campground we were sitting in the truck bed
with the tailgate down and the cap lid up sipping some iced tea before
turning in. A nice little Porsche pulled in to the empty camp spot in
our view and a young lad and lassie jumped out and erected a small
tent and went inside. Took them a while to put the tent up, but since
she was a real knockout I was sure the efforts were worth it.
When they climbed into that tent was only time in my life I remember
actually feeling pangs of jealousy.
They weren't in that tent for two minutes when the wind started
howling and the skies opened up. The wind was rocking my truck
to no end, but was headed aft so we didn't even close it up.
That tent came down within a minute and the young couple scrambled
out to fix it, getting quickly drenched. Back in they went, but this
time the tent went down in maybe 30 seconds. They tried again, then
gave up and scrambled into the Porsche, looking like muddy wet
puppies.
Later that night as I made a bathroom trip I saw their sleeping
silhouettes, sitting up, heads drooped down, and I felt sorry for them
being in that predicament, and shamed at my jealousy.
A few hours later their car starting woke me up, and they were gone.
Hopefully to a nice motel.
Anyway, like a car, truck or camper, I'm planning on getting a boat
that suits my purpose.
That's why I come here. To learn about boats. Well.....

--Vic

Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 11:46:22 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

Hey, don't you already have it?
If I go with the CS, it'll be this 24'
http://www.carolinaskiff.com/listman...ngs/l0010.html
See where it has a capacity of 18 people?
Since it'll mostly be just me and the wife, the rest of the capacity
will be used for the fish we catch.
So that's 16 people's worth of fish I can bring in.
Big ones, medium ones, and "other."
Cool.


On a boat that size I'd want at least a small cuddy to crawl into for an
occasional overnighter. That could double your cruising/fishing range.

Some of the owners install big biminis for lounging, and I think one
has an additional erectable tent type bimini in the bow. There's so
much space available you have lots of options. Others bring a tent
for overnighters ashore on a beach.
Found this on the CS owners site
http://groups.msn.com/CarolinaSkiffO...nw?albumlist=2
Looks like the only actual CS pictured is number 3, but you get the
idea. Having said that, to me the CS is basically a fishing boat, but
there are possibilities for setting it up for overnighters due to it's
size and openness.
If I knew I'd want to do a lot of overnighters or "cruise" for a week
or so, I'd probably go for something like a Mac 26.


If you think about it, there's enough room forward of the console on the
larger CS's to literally pitch a tent.

"HK" wrote in message
. ..

If you think about it, there's enough room forward of the console on the
larger CS's to literally pitch a tent.


Speaking about small tents...I was in a local Ford dealership getting my
yearly safety inspection and quarterly oil change/lube when I saw a display
of a small tent made to fit in the 6' bed of a Ford Ranger pickup. A nearby
salesman said is cost a bit north of $200.
Thought about it for a minute, but with only one year left on my
lease....wasn't sure how much I'd use it.
On the other hand....I think it would pay for itself in four nights.

On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:11:54 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 11:46:22 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


Hey, don't you already have it?
If I go with the CS, it'll be this 24'
http://www.carolinaskiff.com/listman...ngs/l0010.html
See where it has a capacity of 18 people?
Since it'll mostly be just me and the wife, the rest of the capacity
will be used for the fish we catch.
So that's 16 people's worth of fish I can bring in.
Big ones, medium ones, and "other."
Cool.


On a boat that size I'd want at least a small cuddy to crawl into for an
occasional overnighter. That could double your cruising/fishing range.

Some of the owners install big biminis for lounging, and I think one
has an additional erectable tent type bimini in the bow. There's so
much space available you have lots of options. Others bring a tent
for overnighters ashore on a beach.
Found this on the CS owners site
http://groups.msn.com/CarolinaSkiffO...nw?albumlist=2
Looks like the only actual CS pictured is number 3, but you get the
idea. Having said that, to me the CS is basically a fishing boat, but
there are possibilities for setting it up for overnighters due to it's
size and openness.
If I knew I'd want to do a lot of overnighters or "cruise" for a week
or so, I'd probably go for something like a Mac 26.
Like the CS, it is very low draft and easy to tuck into shallow
shelter. Both boats are inexpensive and can move cheaply under power.
I'm a Chevy guy.
But the utility of the CS reminds me I did have a '67 Ford F-100. Put
a cab-high cap on the bed and traveled all over the west with the wife
and 2 small kids, sleeping in the truck bed.
One dusk in a Nebraska campground we were sitting in the truck bed
with the tailgate down and the cap lid up sipping some iced tea before
turning in. A nice little Porsche pulled in to the empty camp spot in
our view and a young lad and lassie jumped out and erected a small
tent and went inside. Took them a while to put the tent up, but since
she was a real knockout I was sure the efforts were worth it.
When they climbed into that tent was only time in my life I remember
actually feeling pangs of jealousy.
They weren't in that tent for two minutes when the wind started
howling and the skies opened up. The wind was rocking my truck
to no end, but was headed aft so we didn't even close it up.
That tent came down within a minute and the young couple scrambled
out to fix it, getting quickly drenched. Back in they went, but this
time the tent went down in maybe 30 seconds. They tried again, then
gave up and scrambled into the Porsche, looking like muddy wet
puppies.
Later that night as I made a bathroom trip I saw their sleeping
silhouettes, sitting up, heads drooped down, and I felt sorry for them
being in that predicament, and shamed at my jealousy.
A few hours later their car starting woke me up, and they were gone.
Hopefully to a nice motel.
Anyway, like a car, truck or camper, I'm planning on getting a boat
that suits my purpose.
That's why I come here. To learn about boats. Well.....

--Vic

The wife and I have taken the tent, thermarests, sleeping bags, and a small
bbq grill and camped from a 15' Whaler.

You'll have a ball!

But, I do like the #3 bow enclosure.
--
John H

On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:49:10 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:11:54 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Found this on the CS owners site
http://groups.msn.com/CarolinaSkiffO...nw?albumlist=2
Looks like the only actual CS pictured is number 3, but you get the
idea. Having said that, to me the CS is basically a fishing boat, but
there are possibilities for setting it up for overnighters due to it's
size and openness.

The wife and I have taken the tent, thermarests, sleeping bags, and a small
bbq grill and camped from a 15' Whaler.

Where there's a will there's a way.
And a Coleman stove can fry up bacon and eggs good too.

You'll have a ball!

I'm thinking that in Florida the heat, no-seeums and sand fleas are
going to have some say in that. But I'll do my part.

But, I do like the #3 bow enclosure.

I looked at it again, and the bow rail tells me it's probably not a
CS. But I've seen all kinds of nice contraptions set up with some
sunbrella and tubing. It's not done cheaply, though. But a good
number of cruisers have a Sail-Rite sewing machine and make
some handy canvas, saving money.
This got me to thinking how people choose their boat, and what goes
into that. I'm not a "spender" unless that what it takes to get to my
goal.
I like the CS, knowing it's basically a flat water boat, and it's
Florida flat water fishing that I like to do.
Very roomy boat, and though they can go fast, they can cruise at a
high economy.
Not a choice for others, but it might suit me.
What made you choose the boat you did, John?

--Vic

On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 07:14:23 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:49:10 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:11:54 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Found this on the CS owners site
http://groups.msn.com/CarolinaSkiffO...nw?albumlist=2
Looks like the only actual CS pictured is number 3, but you get the
idea. Having said that, to me the CS is basically a fishing boat, but
there are possibilities for setting it up for overnighters due to it's
size and openness.

The wife and I have taken the tent, thermarests, sleeping bags, and a small
bbq grill and camped from a 15' Whaler.

Where there's a will there's a way.
And a Coleman stove can fry up bacon and eggs good too.

You'll have a ball!

I'm thinking that in Florida the heat, no-seeums and sand fleas are
going to have some say in that. But I'll do my part.

But, I do like the #3 bow enclosure.

I looked at it again, and the bow rail tells me it's probably not a
CS. But I've seen all kinds of nice contraptions set up with some
sunbrella and tubing. It's not done cheaply, though. But a good
number of cruisers have a Sail-Rite sewing machine and make
some handy canvas, saving money.
This got me to thinking how people choose their boat, and what goes
into that. I'm not a "spender" unless that what it takes to get to my
goal.
I like the CS, knowing it's basically a flat water boat, and it's
Florida flat water fishing that I like to do.
Very roomy boat, and though they can go fast, they can cruise at a
high economy.
Not a choice for others, but it might suit me.
What made you choose the boat you did, John?

--Vic

I wanted something smaller than the Proline 21'er, which was heavy enough
to require tandem axles and brakes. The one I've got now is 18', and light
enough to pop on and pop off the truck. The trailer doesn't require brakes,
which are a big headache with frequent salt water baths.

I wanted something for fishing, which is why I like the center console, but
had enough amenities to keep the wife happy, like a bimini and lots of
seating and storage. It's got plenty of seating, so I can take a load of
grandkids out also. I got the largest engine possible, the 150hp, for
pulling tubes or skis.

Finally, the dealer for Key West was the marina where the Proline was
stored. It was 12 years old, and I was wanting to get rid of it. My kids
didn't want it, and the dealer offered me a good trade in value for the Key
West, so I bit!

I've not had the new boat in the water yet. It came in last November, and I
had it shrink wrapped and stored in the trailer yard. The dealer is doing
the dealer prep on it this coming week, and I'll go down and test ride it
the first part of April.

Hopefully, I'll like it!
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)

On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 08:43:38 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 07:14:23 -0600, Vic Smith

What made you choose the boat you did, John?

I wanted something smaller than the Proline 21'er, which was heavy enough
to require tandem axles and brakes. The one I've got now is 18', and light
enough to pop on and pop off the truck. The trailer doesn't require brakes,
which are a big headache with frequent salt water baths.

I wanted something for fishing, which is why I like the center console, but
had enough amenities to keep the wife happy, like a bimini and lots of
seating and storage. It's got plenty of seating, so I can take a load of
grandkids out also. I got the largest engine possible, the 150hp, for
pulling tubes or skis.

Finally, the dealer for Key West was the marina where the Proline was
stored. It was 12 years old, and I was wanting to get rid of it. My kids
didn't want it, and the dealer offered me a good trade in value for the Key
West, so I bit!

I've not had the new boat in the water yet. It came in last November, and I
had it shrink wrapped and stored in the trailer yard. The dealer is doing
the dealer prep on it this coming week, and I'll go down and test ride it
the first part of April.

Hopefully, I'll like it!

I bet you will.
Since I'm new to this, my questions might be stupid, but I never let
that stop me.
Did you take a "test ride" in what you're getting, same engine and
all?
Besides center console, what kind of thinking went into suitability
for fishing - like trolling and landing fish?
Same for seaworthiness.
Since I'm real careful when I put down the bucks, I might start making
a list to go by before I pull the trigger, instead of listening to my
wife say something like "This is pretty, let's get it this one."

--Vic

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 08:43:38 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 07:14:23 -0600, Vic Smith

What made you choose the boat you did, John?

I wanted something smaller than the Proline 21'er, which was heavy enough
to require tandem axles and brakes. The one I've got now is 18', and light
enough to pop on and pop off the truck. The trailer doesn't require
brakes,
which are a big headache with frequent salt water baths.

I wanted something for fishing, which is why I like the center console,
but
had enough amenities to keep the wife happy, like a bimini and lots of
seating and storage. It's got plenty of seating, so I can take a load of
grandkids out also. I got the largest engine possible, the 150hp, for
pulling tubes or skis.

Finally, the dealer for Key West was the marina where the Proline was
stored. It was 12 years old, and I was wanting to get rid of it. My kids
didn't want it, and the dealer offered me a good trade in value for the
Key
West, so I bit!

I've not had the new boat in the water yet. It came in last November, and
I
had it shrink wrapped and stored in the trailer yard. The dealer is doing
the dealer prep on it this coming week, and I'll go down and test ride it
the first part of April.

Hopefully, I'll like it!

I bet you will.
Since I'm new to this, my questions might be stupid, but I never let
that stop me.
Did you take a "test ride" in what you're getting, same engine and
all?
Besides center console, what kind of thinking went into suitability
for fishing - like trolling and landing fish?
Same for seaworthiness.
Since I'm real careful when I put down the bucks, I might start making
a list to go by before I pull the trigger, instead of listening to my
wife say something like "This is pretty, let's get it this one."

--Vic
You know that the wife has the last word. And it isn't always "yes dear"