On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 20:42:40 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

filling either full of mud is one thing, but concerning accuracy, the
M-16 's .223 will smoke an "acker" on the range any day...

Totally disagree.

Given my druthers, I'd take a AK over it's M-16 cousin anyday in close
quarters if only for one reason - it's shorter and had much better
balance even with the extra half pound of weight. It also will not
jam - ever. Fewer parts, quicker disassembly/assembly and in a pinch,
you can retrofit all AKs from other AKs.

It's simple, effective and easy to maintain. And up to 250 yards, as
accurate, or even more accurate, than the M-16 - whatever variant.

Now if you want to reach out and touch someone, that's a different
story. Close in, AK every time.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 20:42:40 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

filling either full of mud is one thing, but concerning accuracy, the
M-16 's .223 will smoke an "acker" on the range any day...

Totally disagree.

Given my druthers, I'd take a AK over it's M-16 cousin anyday in close
quarters if only for one reason - it's shorter and had much better
balance even with the extra half pound of weight. It also will not
jam - ever. Fewer parts, quicker disassembly/assembly and in a pinch,
you can retrofit all AKs from other AKs.

It's simple, effective and easy to maintain. And up to 250 yards, as
accurate, or even more accurate, than the M-16 - whatever variant.

Now if you want to reach out and touch someone, that's a different
story. Close in, AK every time.

and it is very cheap to buy in the arms market.

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 20:42:40 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

filling either full of mud is one thing, but concerning accuracy, the
M-16 's .223 will smoke an "acker" on the range any day...

Totally disagree.

Given my druthers, I'd take a AK over it's M-16 cousin anyday in close
quarters if only for one reason - it's shorter and had much better
balance even with the extra half pound of weight. It also will not
jam - ever. Fewer parts, quicker disassembly/assembly and in a pinch,
you can retrofit all AKs from other AKs.

It's simple, effective and easy to maintain. And up to 250 yards, as
accurate, or even more accurate, than the M-16 - whatever variant.

Now if you want to reach out and touch someone, that's a different
story. Close in, AK every time.

and it is very cheap to buy in the arms market.




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On Apr 6, 5:54*am, "Jim" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

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On Apr 5, 8:39 pm, "JimH" wrote:





"HK" wrote in message

news

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 16:59:37 -0700 (PDT), BeeRich
wrote:

On Apr 5, 7:36 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 15:15:18 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Mar 13, 9:48 am, BeeRich wrote:
Hi folks.
Just wanted to know if there are any known online resources with
respect to pirates. No, not the peg leg eye patch kind, but the
real
kind on the water. I want to investigate how real these stories are
that I hear about.
If you ask over is rec.boats.sailing, you'll probably find some live
discussion about them. a couple or three years ago, I'd say, there
were some people tha were aproached by latter-day pirates, and
fended
themselves with shotguns. Not sure though.
But a sail ship cald "Gandolf the Green" comes to mind....
I would prefer just killing them outright.

As in an RPG smack dab in the middle of the boat.

Leave the survivors to the sharks.
Unfortunately I don't own such items, and I asked at the drugstore
today, and they are out too.

Roll your own. :)

Pretty easy to make a nice, nasty Molotov Cocktail only instead of
gas, use gun powder. Sweeten that with some roofing nails, a few
pieces of magnesium, 'ya got 'cha some elementary RPG material. Some
surgical tubing to launch and just let 'em get close enough -
wham, bam, thank you mam - toasted pirates.

I was wondering why so many pirates lost a leg...their slingshot failed
and the "nasty Molotov" fell to the deck and blew up. Homebrew Molotovs
won't hack it.

If you want to ward off pirates, get yourself a heavy-duty fully
automatic
rifle, preferably a reliable Soviet Avtomat Kalashnikova model 1947 with
a
75-round drum mag or a Barrett semi-auto that shoots .50 BMG. The .50
BMG
will hole a hull at and below the waterline and penetrate an engine.
Avoid
the "modern" U.S. automatic assault rifles like the plague. Too finicky.

The AK 47 is the most lethal and most reliable assault rifle ever
produced.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

*cough*

*reliability is way up there but, lethal? tjey're way down the line,
Jim.

filling either full of mud is one thing, but concerning accuracy, the
M-16 's .223 will smoke an "acker" on the range any day...

Jim Hill and Harry Krause.................gun experts...................Ha
Ha Ha Ha.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

BWAAAAAHAAAAAA!!!!!

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 16:59:37 -0700 (PDT), BeeRich
wrote:

On Apr 5, 7:36 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 15:15:18 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Mar 13, 9:48 am, BeeRich wrote:
Hi folks.

Just wanted to know if there are any known online resources with
respect to pirates. No, not the peg leg eye patch kind, but the real
kind on the water. I want to investigate how real these stories are
that I hear about.

If you ask over is rec.boats.sailing, you'll probably find some live
discussion about them. a couple or three years ago, I'd say, there
were some people tha were aproached by latter-day pirates, and fended
themselves with shotguns. Not sure though.

But a sail ship cald "Gandolf the Green" comes to mind....

I would prefer just killing them outright.

As in an RPG smack dab in the middle of the boat.

Leave the survivors to the sharks.

Unfortunately I don't own such items, and I asked at the drugstore
today, and they are out too.

Roll your own. :)

Pretty easy to make a nice, nasty Molotov Cocktail only instead of
gas, use gun powder. Sweeten that with some roofing nails, a few
pieces of magnesium, 'ya got 'cha some elementary RPG material.

Some surgical tubing to launch and just let 'em get close enough -
wham, bam, thank you mam - toasted pirates.

End the crap easily. Like the tug that was held for a couple of months and
was ransomed. Just inform the pirates that their home village will be
eliminated from the living. And do it at least once.

On Apr 6, 6:01*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 20:42:40 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

filling either full of mud is one thing, but concerning accuracy, the
M-16 's .223 will smoke an "acker" on the range any day...

Totally disagree.


Now if you want to reach out and touch someone, that's a different
story. *Close in, AK every time.

That's what I was talking about When I said on the range," Tom

no doubt the AK is musch simpler and durable, btu I wouldn't say it's
something like the greatest (not a direct quote from JimH) asault
rifle in the world.

H&K, FN-FAL.

concerning accuracy, simplicity, and durability, those are two names
to rememeber, two names to contend with. They also make arms chambered
for the 7.62x39

On Apr 6, 6:01*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 20:42:40 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

filling either full of mud is one thing, but concerning accuracy, the
M-16 's .223 will smoke an "acker" on the range any day...

Totally disagree.

Given my druthers, I'd take a AK over it's M-16 cousin anyday in close
quarters if only for one reason - it's shorter and had much better
balance even with the extra half pound of weight. *It also will not
jam - ever. *Fewer parts, quicker disassembly/assembly and in a pinch,
you can retrofit all AKs from other AKs.

It's simple, effective and easy to maintain. And up to 250 yards, as
accurate, or even more accurate, than the M-16 - whatever variant.

Now if you want to reach out and touch someone, that's a different
story. *Close in, AK every time.

Take a closer look:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6BpI...eature=related

On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 21:39:15 -0400, "JimH" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
news
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 16:59:37 -0700 (PDT), BeeRich
wrote:

On Apr 5, 7:36 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 15:15:18 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Mar 13, 9:48 am, BeeRich wrote:
Hi folks.
Just wanted to know if there are any known online resources with
respect to pirates. No, not the peg leg eye patch kind, but the real
kind on the water. I want to investigate how real these stories are
that I hear about.
If you ask over is rec.boats.sailing, you'll probably find some live
discussion about them. a couple or three years ago, I'd say, there
were some people tha were aproached by latter-day pirates, and fended
themselves with shotguns. Not sure though.
But a sail ship cald "Gandolf the Green" comes to mind....
I would prefer just killing them outright.

As in an RPG smack dab in the middle of the boat.

Leave the survivors to the sharks.
Unfortunately I don't own such items, and I asked at the drugstore
today, and they are out too.

Roll your own. :)

Pretty easy to make a nice, nasty Molotov Cocktail only instead of
gas, use gun powder. Sweeten that with some roofing nails, a few
pieces of magnesium, 'ya got 'cha some elementary RPG material. Some
surgical tubing to launch and just let 'em get close enough -
wham, bam, thank you mam - toasted pirates.


I was wondering why so many pirates lost a leg...their slingshot failed
and the "nasty Molotov" fell to the deck and blew up. Homebrew Molotovs
won't hack it.

If you want to ward off pirates, get yourself a heavy-duty fully automatic
rifle, preferably a reliable Soviet Avtomat Kalashnikova model 1947 with a
75-round drum mag or a Barrett semi-auto that shoots .50 BMG. The .50 BMG
will hole a hull at and below the waterline and penetrate an engine. Avoid
the "modern" U.S. automatic assault rifles like the plague. Too finicky.



The AK 47 is the most lethal and most reliable assault rifle ever produced.


I had no problems with either the M-14 or M-16. What problems did you have,
JimH?

On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:51:55 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Apr 6, 6:01*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 20:42:40 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

filling either full of mud is one thing, but concerning accuracy, the
M-16 's .223 will smoke an "acker" on the range any day...

Totally disagree.


Now if you want to reach out and touch someone, that's a different
story. *Close in, AK every time.

That's what I was talking about When I said on the range," Tom

no doubt the AK is musch simpler and durable, btu I wouldn't say it's
something like the greatest (not a direct quote from JimH) asault
rifle in the world.

H&K, FN-FAL.

concerning accuracy, simplicity, and durability, those are two names
to rememeber, two names to contend with. They also make arms chambered
for the 7.62x39

I'm sure you know much more than I do about infantry actions.

You win.

On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:00:55 -0400, "JimH" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 21:39:15 -0400, "JimH" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
news Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 16:59:37 -0700 (PDT), BeeRich
wrote:

On Apr 5, 7:36 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 15:15:18 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Mar 13, 9:48 am, BeeRich wrote:
Hi folks.
Just wanted to know if there are any known online resources with
respect to pirates. No, not the peg leg eye patch kind, but the
real
kind on the water. I want to investigate how real these stories
are
that I hear about.
If you ask over is rec.boats.sailing, you'll probably find some live
discussion about them. a couple or three years ago, I'd say, there
were some people tha were aproached by latter-day pirates, and
fended
themselves with shotguns. Not sure though.
But a sail ship cald "Gandolf the Green" comes to mind....
I would prefer just killing them outright.

As in an RPG smack dab in the middle of the boat.

Leave the survivors to the sharks.
Unfortunately I don't own such items, and I asked at the drugstore
today, and they are out too.

Roll your own. :)

Pretty easy to make a nice, nasty Molotov Cocktail only instead of
gas, use gun powder. Sweeten that with some roofing nails, a few
pieces of magnesium, 'ya got 'cha some elementary RPG material. Some
surgical tubing to launch and just let 'em get close enough -
wham, bam, thank you mam - toasted pirates.


I was wondering why so many pirates lost a leg...their slingshot failed
and the "nasty Molotov" fell to the deck and blew up. Homebrew Molotovs
won't hack it.

If you want to ward off pirates, get yourself a heavy-duty fully
automatic
rifle, preferably a reliable Soviet Avtomat Kalashnikova model 1947 with
a
75-round drum mag or a Barrett semi-auto that shoots .50 BMG. The .50
BMG
will hole a hull at and below the waterline and penetrate an engine.
Avoid
the "modern" U.S. automatic assault rifles like the plague. Too finicky.



The AK 47 is the most lethal and most reliable assault rifle ever
produced.


I had no problems with either the M-14 or M-16. What problems did you
have,
JimH?

None as I did not serve (my number was not called).

So are you disagreeing with me about the AK 47 or just trying to start more
**** with me as you have done since coming back from your Mouse vacation
today?

I think you need another vacation John........at least from this NG as we
fared far better without you and your nasty/argumentative/name calling
attititude while you were gone.

Chill out guy.


I've now asked you two questions.

They must be upsetting. Sorry. My bad.
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)