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HK March 12th 08 11:46 AM

One must wonder...
 
John H. wrote:
why most of the major media refuse to mention that Spitzer is a Democrat,
although the party affiliation is mentioned ad nauseum when a Republican is
involved in a sex scandal.

It couldn't be media bias, could it?

http://tinyurl.com/2c3kms

The undereducated must never know the truth, else the Democrats may lose
their base.



I wonder what one might conclude from those who spend their time on
websites that "expose and combat liberal media bias." I wonder if those
very sites are biased. I wonder.

Valgard Toebreakerson[_2_] March 12th 08 11:46 AM

One must wonder...
 
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:40:23 -0500, John H.
wrote:

why most of the major media refuse to mention that Spitzer is a Democrat,
although the party affiliation is mentioned ad nauseum when a Republican is
involved in a sex scandal.

It couldn't be media bias, could it?

http://tinyurl.com/2c3kms

The undereducated must never know the truth, else the Democrats may lose
their base.


Got a better one for you.

Go to Detroit news - paper, TV - whatever, and find what political
affiliation the mayor of Detroit is.

Oh - the reason?

He's involved with the murder a hooker.

And covering/obstructing the investigation.

jamesgangnc[_2_] March 12th 08 11:55 AM

One must wonder...
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
why most of the major media refuse to mention that Spitzer is a Democrat,
although the party affiliation is mentioned ad nauseum when a Republican
is
involved in a sex scandal.

It couldn't be media bias, could it?

http://tinyurl.com/2c3kms

The undereducated must never know the truth, else the Democrats may lose
their base.
--
John


He paid for a hooker. bfd Misdemeaner most places.



BAR March 12th 08 11:57 AM

One must wonder...
 
jamesgangnc wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
why most of the major media refuse to mention that Spitzer is a Democrat,
although the party affiliation is mentioned ad nauseum when a Republican
is
involved in a sex scandal.

It couldn't be media bias, could it?

http://tinyurl.com/2c3kms

The undereducated must never know the truth, else the Democrats may lose
their base.
--
John


He paid for a hooker. bfd Misdemeaner most places.


Speeding is illegal and nobody much cares about it until some gets
killed. Does that mean that we should stop enforcing the speeding laws?


HK March 12th 08 11:57 AM

One must wonder...
 
Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:40:23 -0500, John H.
wrote:

why most of the major media refuse to mention that Spitzer is a Democrat,
although the party affiliation is mentioned ad nauseum when a Republican is
involved in a sex scandal.

It couldn't be media bias, could it?

http://tinyurl.com/2c3kms

The undereducated must never know the truth, else the Democrats may lose
their base.


Got a better one for you.

Go to Detroit news - paper, TV - whatever, and find what political
affiliation the mayor of Detroit is.

Oh - the reason?

He's involved with the murder a hooker.

And covering/obstructing the investigation.



Republicans involved in these scandals are identified by political party
because the GOP likes to identify itself as the party of "family
values," and since it obviously is not, it is interesting to point out
the various sexual adventures of "family value"
conservatives/Republicans. My favorite exposes involve
conservative/Republicans and gays.

HK March 12th 08 12:00 PM

One must wonder...
 
BAR wrote:
jamesgangnc wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
why most of the major media refuse to mention that Spitzer is a
Democrat,
although the party affiliation is mentioned ad nauseum when a
Republican is
involved in a sex scandal.

It couldn't be media bias, could it?

http://tinyurl.com/2c3kms

The undereducated must never know the truth, else the Democrats may lose
their base.
--
John


He paid for a hooker. bfd Misdemeaner most places.


Speeding is illegal and nobody much cares about it until some gets
killed. Does that mean that we should stop enforcing the speeding laws?



We certainly should not be enforcing laws against consensual sex acts
between adults, although I do admit I enjoy reading and seeing about the
scandals between the hypocritical right-wing "family values"
conservatives and their proclivity for gays.

BAR March 12th 08 12:00 PM

One must wonder...
 
HK wrote:
Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:40:23 -0500, John H.
wrote:

why most of the major media refuse to mention that Spitzer is a
Democrat,
although the party affiliation is mentioned ad nauseum when a
Republican is
involved in a sex scandal.

It couldn't be media bias, could it?

http://tinyurl.com/2c3kms

The undereducated must never know the truth, else the Democrats may lose
their base.


Got a better one for you.

Go to Detroit news - paper, TV - whatever, and find what political
affiliation the mayor of Detroit is.

Oh - the reason?

He's involved with the murder a hooker.

And covering/obstructing the investigation.



Republicans involved in these scandals are identified by political party
because the GOP likes to identify itself as the party of "family
values," and since it obviously is not, it is interesting to point out
the various sexual adventures of "family value"
conservatives/Republicans. My favorite exposes involve
conservative/Republicans and gays.


One can only conclude, by your statments above, that the Democrat party
has no values, none, nada, zip. Is that correct.

Throw the bar on the floor, then everything we do will be above the bar
aren't a great party, that's the Democrats.


BAR March 12th 08 12:03 PM

One must wonder...
 
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
jamesgangnc wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
why most of the major media refuse to mention that Spitzer is a
Democrat,
although the party affiliation is mentioned ad nauseum when a
Republican is
involved in a sex scandal.

It couldn't be media bias, could it?

http://tinyurl.com/2c3kms

The undereducated must never know the truth, else the Democrats may
lose
their base.
--
John

He paid for a hooker. bfd Misdemeaner most places.


Speeding is illegal and nobody much cares about it until some gets
killed. Does that mean that we should stop enforcing the speeding laws?



We certainly should not be enforcing laws against consensual sex acts
between adults, although I do admit I enjoy reading and seeing about the
scandals between the hypocritical right-wing "family values"
conservatives and their proclivity for gays.


What is your definition of consensual?

The Democrats are getting a big black eye with this one. Add Pelosi's
refusal to divest here positions in drug companies and the possible
steering of contracts to her husband's company's and you come to the
conclusion that the Democrat party is full of corruption.


Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] March 12th 08 12:03 PM

One must wonder...
 
jamesgangnc wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
why most of the major media refuse to mention that Spitzer is a Democrat,
although the party affiliation is mentioned ad nauseum when a Republican
is
involved in a sex scandal.

It couldn't be media bias, could it?

http://tinyurl.com/2c3kms

The undereducated must never know the truth, else the Democrats may lose
their base.
--
John


He paid for a hooker. bfd Misdemeaner most places.



As someone who believes prostitution and the use of ALL drugs should not
be illegal, I don't disagree with you in principle. But when you
contribution $10,000 plus dollars to an illegal activity, especially one
you zealous prosecuted as an AG, and you are a politician on top of
that, it is now a very big deal.




HK March 12th 08 12:04 PM

One must wonder...
 
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:40:23 -0500, John H.
wrote:

why most of the major media refuse to mention that Spitzer is a
Democrat,
although the party affiliation is mentioned ad nauseum when a
Republican is
involved in a sex scandal.

It couldn't be media bias, could it?

http://tinyurl.com/2c3kms

The undereducated must never know the truth, else the Democrats may
lose
their base.

Got a better one for you.

Go to Detroit news - paper, TV - whatever, and find what political
affiliation the mayor of Detroit is.

Oh - the reason?

He's involved with the murder a hooker.

And covering/obstructing the investigation.



Republicans involved in these scandals are identified by political
party because the GOP likes to identify itself as the party of "family
values," and since it obviously is not, it is interesting to point out
the various sexual adventures of "family value"
conservatives/Republicans. My favorite exposes involve
conservative/Republicans and gays.


One can only conclude, by your statments above, that the Democrat party
has no values, none, nada, zip. Is that correct.

Throw the bar on the floor, then everything we do will be above the bar
aren't a great party, that's the Democrats.



I don't believe that sexual relationships between consenting adults is
the business of anyone other than the adults involved in the relationship.

I don't take seriously any of "morality" crap as exuded by "family
value" conservatives/Republicans. It's all the height of hypocrisy.

HK March 12th 08 12:07 PM

One must wonder...
 
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
jamesgangnc wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
why most of the major media refuse to mention that Spitzer is a
Democrat,
although the party affiliation is mentioned ad nauseum when a
Republican is
involved in a sex scandal.

It couldn't be media bias, could it?

http://tinyurl.com/2c3kms

The undereducated must never know the truth, else the Democrats may
lose
their base.
--
John

He paid for a hooker. bfd Misdemeaner most places.

Speeding is illegal and nobody much cares about it until some gets
killed. Does that mean that we should stop enforcing the speeding laws?



We certainly should not be enforcing laws against consensual sex acts
between adults, although I do admit I enjoy reading and seeing about
the scandals between the hypocritical right-wing "family values"
conservatives and their proclivity for gays.


What is your definition of consensual?





Consensual - you know - both parties agree. They consent. The standard
definition. What do you think consensual means? :)

jamesgangnc[_2_] March 12th 08 12:14 PM

One must wonder...
 
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
jamesgangnc wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
why most of the major media refuse to mention that Spitzer is a
Democrat,
although the party affiliation is mentioned ad nauseum when a Republican
is
involved in a sex scandal.

It couldn't be media bias, could it?

http://tinyurl.com/2c3kms

The undereducated must never know the truth, else the Democrats may lose
their base.
--
John


He paid for a hooker. bfd Misdemeaner most places.


Speeding is illegal and nobody much cares about it until some gets killed.
Does that mean that we should stop enforcing the speeding laws?


No, I'm cool with him getting busted. Just putting it in perspective.



[email protected] March 12th 08 12:15 PM

One must wonder...
 
On Mar 12, 8:40*am, John H. wrote:
why most of the major media refuse to mention that Spitzer is a Democrat,
although the party affiliation is mentioned ad nauseum when a Republican is
involved in a sex scandal.

It couldn't be media bias, could it?

http://tinyurl.com/2c3kms

The undereducated must never know the truth, else the Democrats may lose
their base.
--
John


Yeah, and where is all the "culture of corruption:" talk? All they are
saying is prostitution should be legal...I bet he is going to try to
stay in his positition..


[email protected] March 12th 08 12:16 PM

One must wonder...
 
On Mar 12, 7:55*am, "jamesgangnc" wrote:
"John H." wrote in message

...

why most of the major media refuse to mention that Spitzer is a Democrat,
although the party affiliation is mentioned ad nauseum when a Republican
is
involved in a sex scandal.


It couldn't be media bias, could it?


http://tinyurl.com/2c3kms


The undereducated must never know the truth, else the Democrats may lose
their base.
--
John


He paid for a hooker. *bfd *Misdemeaner most places.


Yeah, lucky he did not tap his foot...

Eisboch March 12th 08 12:23 PM

One must wonder...
 

"HK" wrote in message
...


Consensual - you know - both parties agree. They consent. The standard
definition. What do you think consensual means? :)



I think I'll reconsider our personal value system and encourage our kids
that:

Extramarital sex is fun and ok ..... as long as it is consensual. Forget
the vows and commitments you made to each other.
Drugs are fun and ok ..... as long as everyone in the family agrees.
Introduce your 12 year old to the pleasures.
Lying and cheating is ok .... as long as it only serves your personal
agenda.

In other words, become a Democrat.

Eisboch



HK March 12th 08 12:27 PM

One must wonder...
 
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

Consensual - you know - both parties agree. They consent. The standard
definition. What do you think consensual means? :)



I think I'll reconsider our personal value system and encourage our kids
that:

Extramarital sex is fun and ok ..... as long as it is consensual. Forget
the vows and commitments you made to each other.
Drugs are fun and ok ..... as long as everyone in the family agrees.
Introduce your 12 year old to the pleasures.
Lying and cheating is ok .... as long as it only serves your personal
agenda.

In other words, become a Democrat.

Eisboch


Oh, please. We're discussing the criminalization of consensual sex
between adults.

HK March 12th 08 12:29 PM

One must wonder...
 
wrote:
On Mar 12, 7:55 am, "jamesgangnc" wrote:
"John H." wrote in message

...

why most of the major media refuse to mention that Spitzer is a Democrat,
although the party affiliation is mentioned ad nauseum when a Republican
is
involved in a sex scandal.
It couldn't be media bias, could it?
http://tinyurl.com/2c3kms
The undereducated must never know the truth, else the Democrats may lose
their base.
--
John

He paid for a hooker. bfd Misdemeaner most places.


Yeah, lucky he did not tap his foot...



That's the whole point...if he were tapping his foot, he'd be a
conservative Republican family values guy looking for gay sex.

[email protected] March 12th 08 12:30 PM

One must wonder...
 
On Mar 12, 8:27*am, hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...


Consensual - you know - both parties agree. They consent. The standard
definition. What do you think consensual means? * :)


I think I'll reconsider our personal value system and encourage our kids
that:


Extramarital sex is fun and ok ..... as long as it is consensual. * Forget
the vows and commitments you made to each other.
Drugs are fun and ok ..... as long as everyone in the family agrees.
Introduce your 12 year old to the pleasures.
Lying and cheating is ok .... as long as it only serves your personal
agenda.


In other words, become a Democrat.


Eisboch


Oh, please. We're discussing the criminalization of consensual sex
between adults.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


That is a lie.. and you know it, We all do, and hopefully no one will
waste our time trying to get you to admit it...

[email protected] March 12th 08 12:34 PM

One must wonder...
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
I don't believe that sexual relationships between consenting adults is the
business of anyone other than the adults involved in the relationship.


Try that line on your wife and see how it flies.


Eisboch March 12th 08 12:36 PM

One must wonder...
 

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

Consensual - you know - both parties agree. They consent. The standard
definition. What do you think consensual means? :)



I think I'll reconsider our personal value system and encourage our kids
that:

Extramarital sex is fun and ok ..... as long as it is consensual.
Forget the vows and commitments you made to each other.
Drugs are fun and ok ..... as long as everyone in the family agrees.
Introduce your 12 year old to the pleasures.
Lying and cheating is ok .... as long as it only serves your personal
agenda.

In other words, become a Democrat.

Eisboch


Oh, please. We're discussing the criminalization of consensual sex between
adults.



I happen to think that there is a difference between consensual sex between
adults and cheating on your wife with a hired hooker.

Eisboch



[email protected] March 12th 08 12:39 PM

One must wonder...
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"HK" wrote in message
...


Consensual - you know - both parties agree. They consent. The standard
definition. What do you think consensual means? :)



I think I'll reconsider our personal value system and encourage our kids
that:

Extramarital sex is fun and ok ..... as long as it is consensual. Forget
the vows and commitments you made to each other.
Drugs are fun and ok ..... as long as everyone in the family agrees.
Introduce your 12 year old to the pleasures.
Lying and cheating is ok .... as long as it only serves your personal
agenda.

In other words, become a Democrat.

Eisboch


Look at the slime he associates with and admires. It's no wonder he has no
moral or ethical foundation.


John H.[_3_] March 12th 08 12:40 PM

One must wonder...
 
why most of the major media refuse to mention that Spitzer is a Democrat,
although the party affiliation is mentioned ad nauseum when a Republican is
involved in a sex scandal.

It couldn't be media bias, could it?

http://tinyurl.com/2c3kms

The undereducated must never know the truth, else the Democrats may lose
their base.
--
John

HK March 12th 08 12:43 PM

One must wonder...
 
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

Consensual - you know - both parties agree. They consent. The standard
definition. What do you think consensual means? :)

I think I'll reconsider our personal value system and encourage our kids
that:

Extramarital sex is fun and ok ..... as long as it is consensual.
Forget the vows and commitments you made to each other.
Drugs are fun and ok ..... as long as everyone in the family agrees.
Introduce your 12 year old to the pleasures.
Lying and cheating is ok .... as long as it only serves your personal
agenda.

In other words, become a Democrat.

Eisboch


Oh, please. We're discussing the criminalization of consensual sex between
adults.



I happen to think that there is a difference between consensual sex between
adults and cheating on your wife with a hired hooker.

Eisboch




I was discussing the legalities, and the absurdities of prosecuting
adults who engage in consensual sex. You are discussing something else
entirely. If Spitzer used only his own money to mess around, the issue
should be one only he and his family should have to resolve. If public
funds are involved, it is a different matter.

HK March 12th 08 12:48 PM

One must wonder...
 
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
I don't believe that sexual relationships between consenting adults is
the business of anyone other than the adults involved in the
relationship.


Try that line on your wife and see how it flies.



We agree. We're loyal to each other because we are, but we don't believe
that matters of sexuality between consenting adults should be the
business of the law, or even the general public.

I don't give a damn who Governor Spitzer sleeps with, not even if he
sleeps with hookers, so long as he is using his own money to pay for his
fun. If he was using public funds, he should be prosecuted for that, but
not for the sex.

[email protected] March 12th 08 12:51 PM

One must wonder...
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"HK" wrote in message
...


Consensual - you know - both parties agree. They consent. The standard
definition. What do you think consensual means? :)



I think I'll reconsider our personal value system and encourage our kids
that:

Extramarital sex is fun and ok ..... as long as it is consensual. Forget
the vows and commitments you made to each other.
Drugs are fun and ok ..... as long as everyone in the family agrees.
Introduce your 12 year old to the pleasures.
Lying and cheating is ok .... as long as it only serves your personal
agenda.

In other words, become a Democrat.

Eisboch


This behavior seems normal if you are a swinger like Harry. This guy really
gives me the creeps.


HK March 12th 08 12:53 PM

One must wonder...
 
wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"HK" wrote in message
...


Consensual - you know - both parties agree. They consent. The
standard definition. What do you think consensual means? :)



I think I'll reconsider our personal value system and encourage our
kids that:

Extramarital sex is fun and ok ..... as long as it is consensual.
Forget the vows and commitments you made to each other.
Drugs are fun and ok ..... as long as everyone in the family agrees.
Introduce your 12 year old to the pleasures.
Lying and cheating is ok .... as long as it only serves your personal
agenda.

In other words, become a Democrat.

Eisboch


Look at the slime he associates with and admires. It's no wonder he has
no moral or ethical foundation.



Diving back down there again, eh, Jim?

You know who I don't admire, right? I don't admire a president of the
united states who lies the country into a war with Iraq and whose lies
result in thousands being killed and seriously injured. Compared to
that, extracurricular sex seems meek.

I suspect my "morals and ethics" are on a much higher plane than your
typical conservative Republican "family values" hypocrite.

BAR March 12th 08 12:53 PM

One must wonder...
 
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
jamesgangnc wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
why most of the major media refuse to mention that Spitzer is a
Democrat,
although the party affiliation is mentioned ad nauseum when a
Republican is
involved in a sex scandal.

It couldn't be media bias, could it?

http://tinyurl.com/2c3kms

The undereducated must never know the truth, else the Democrats
may lose
their base.
--
John

He paid for a hooker. bfd Misdemeaner most places.

Speeding is illegal and nobody much cares about it until some gets
killed. Does that mean that we should stop enforcing the speeding laws?



We certainly should not be enforcing laws against consensual sex acts
between adults, although I do admit I enjoy reading and seeing about
the scandals between the hypocritical right-wing "family values"
conservatives and their proclivity for gays.


What is your definition of consensual?





Consensual - you know - both parties agree. They consent. The standard
definition. What do you think consensual means? :)


Is that before or after you slip him or her the ruffie?

BAR March 12th 08 12:55 PM

One must wonder...
 
hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

Consensual - you know - both parties agree. They consent. The
standard definition. What do you think consensual means? :)



I think I'll reconsider our personal value system and encourage our
kids that:

Extramarital sex is fun and ok ..... as long as it is consensual.
Forget the vows and commitments you made to each other.
Drugs are fun and ok ..... as long as everyone in the family agrees.
Introduce your 12 year old to the pleasures.
Lying and cheating is ok .... as long as it only serves your personal
agenda.

In other words, become a Democrat.

Eisboch


Oh, please. We're discussing the criminalization of consensual sex
between adults.


You are trying to steer it that way but, we are talking about
hypocrisies and lack of ethics and morals.

BAR March 12th 08 12:56 PM

One must wonder...
 
HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

Consensual - you know - both parties agree. They consent. The
standard definition. What do you think consensual means? :)

I think I'll reconsider our personal value system and encourage our
kids that:

Extramarital sex is fun and ok ..... as long as it is consensual.
Forget the vows and commitments you made to each other.
Drugs are fun and ok ..... as long as everyone in the family agrees.
Introduce your 12 year old to the pleasures.
Lying and cheating is ok .... as long as it only serves your
personal agenda.

In other words, become a Democrat.

Eisboch


Oh, please. We're discussing the criminalization of consensual sex
between adults.



I happen to think that there is a difference between consensual sex
between adults and cheating on your wife with a hired hooker.

Eisboch



I was discussing the legalities, and the absurdities of prosecuting
adults who engage in consensual sex. You are discussing something else
entirely. If Spitzer used only his own money to mess around, the issue
should be one only he and his family should have to resolve. If public
funds are involved, it is a different matter.


So it is ok for Spitzer to hire hookers but, if anybody else does it
then they are going to jail.

Got it!

HK March 12th 08 12:56 PM

One must wonder...
 
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

Consensual - you know - both parties agree. They consent. The
standard definition. What do you think consensual means? :)


I think I'll reconsider our personal value system and encourage our
kids that:

Extramarital sex is fun and ok ..... as long as it is consensual.
Forget the vows and commitments you made to each other.
Drugs are fun and ok ..... as long as everyone in the family agrees.
Introduce your 12 year old to the pleasures.
Lying and cheating is ok .... as long as it only serves your personal
agenda.

In other words, become a Democrat.

Eisboch


Oh, please. We're discussing the criminalization of consensual sex
between adults.


You are trying to steer it that way but, we are talking about
hypocrisies and lack of ethics and morals.



Well, in that case, I offer up The Bush Administration. Pure hypocrisy,
no ethics or morals.

I win.

HK March 12th 08 12:57 PM

One must wonder...
 
wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"HK" wrote in message
...


Consensual - you know - both parties agree. They consent. The standard
definition. What do you think consensual means? :)



I think I'll reconsider our personal value system and encourage our kids
that:

Extramarital sex is fun and ok ..... as long as it is consensual.
Forget
the vows and commitments you made to each other.
Drugs are fun and ok ..... as long as everyone in the family agrees.
Introduce your 12 year old to the pleasures.
Lying and cheating is ok .... as long as it only serves your personal
agenda.

In other words, become a Democrat.

Eisboch


This behavior seems normal if you are a swinger like Harry. This guy
really gives me the creeps.



Are you projecting again? Why would you think I was a "swinger," because
I am not upset by adult expressions of sexuality?

[email protected] March 12th 08 12:58 PM

One must wonder...
 
On Mar 12, 8:56*am, HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...


Consensual - you know - both parties agree. They consent. The
standard definition. What do you think consensual means? * :)


I think I'll reconsider our personal value system and encourage our
kids that:


Extramarital sex is fun and ok ..... as long as it is consensual. *
Forget the vows and commitments you made to each other.
Drugs are fun and ok ..... as long as everyone in the family agrees.
Introduce your 12 year old to the pleasures.
Lying and cheating is ok .... as long as it only serves your personal
agenda.


In other words, become a Democrat.


Eisboch


Oh, please. We're discussing the criminalization of consensual sex
between adults.


You are trying to steer it that way but, we are talking about
hypocrisies and lack of ethics and morals.


Well, in that case, I offer up The Bush Administration. Pure hypocrisy,
no ethics or morals.

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No felonies.. you lose..

HK March 12th 08 12:59 PM

One must wonder...
 
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

Consensual - you know - both parties agree. They consent. The
standard definition. What do you think consensual means? :)

I think I'll reconsider our personal value system and encourage our
kids that:

Extramarital sex is fun and ok ..... as long as it is consensual.
Forget the vows and commitments you made to each other.
Drugs are fun and ok ..... as long as everyone in the family
agrees. Introduce your 12 year old to the pleasures.
Lying and cheating is ok .... as long as it only serves your
personal agenda.

In other words, become a Democrat.

Eisboch


Oh, please. We're discussing the criminalization of consensual sex
between adults.


I happen to think that there is a difference between consensual sex
between adults and cheating on your wife with a hired hooker.

Eisboch



I was discussing the legalities, and the absurdities of prosecuting
adults who engage in consensual sex. You are discussing something else
entirely. If Spitzer used only his own money to mess around, the issue
should be one only he and his family should have to resolve. If public
funds are involved, it is a different matter.


So it is ok for Spitzer to hire hookers but, if anybody else does it
then they are going to jail.

Got it!



Whoooosh.


No, I don't believe it should be illegal for any adult to hire or be a
hooker.

Sometimes I wonder a little about some of you. Did you really come to
that conclusion based upon my post?


HK March 12th 08 01:01 PM

One must wonder...
 
wrote:
On Mar 12, 8:56 am, HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Consensual - you know - both parties agree. They consent. The
standard definition. What do you think consensual means? :)
I think I'll reconsider our personal value system and encourage our
kids that:
Extramarital sex is fun and ok ..... as long as it is consensual.
Forget the vows and commitments you made to each other.
Drugs are fun and ok ..... as long as everyone in the family agrees.
Introduce your 12 year old to the pleasures.
Lying and cheating is ok .... as long as it only serves your personal
agenda.
In other words, become a Democrat.
Eisboch
Oh, please. We're discussing the criminalization of consensual sex
between adults.
You are trying to steer it that way but, we are talking about
hypocrisies and lack of ethics and morals.

Well, in that case, I offer up The Bush Administration. Pure hypocrisy,
no ethics or morals.

I win.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


No felonies.. you lose..



Well, of course not...The Bush Administration controls the federal
prosecutors, and you know what happens to them...if you don't toe the
line, Gonzo fires you. Or, if you are prosecuted and convicted, the
chief hypocrite gives you a get out of jail free card.


[email protected] March 12th 08 01:02 PM

One must wonder...
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
I don't believe that sexual relationships between consenting adults is
the business of anyone other than the adults involved in the
relationship.


Try that line on your wife and see how it flies.



We agree. We're loyal to each other because we are, but we don't believe
that matters of sexuality between consenting adults should be the business
of the law, or even the general public.

I don't give a damn who Governor Spitzer sleeps with, not even if he
sleeps with hookers, so long as he is using his own money to pay for his
fun. If he was using public funds, he should be prosecuted for that, but
not for the sex.


Well, she's one lucky woman that the great Harry Krause hasn't cheated on
her yet. Perhaps he hasn't had the opportunity.


John H.[_3_] March 12th 08 01:02 PM

One must wonder...
 
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:55:24 -0400, "jamesgangnc"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
why most of the major media refuse to mention that Spitzer is a Democrat,
although the party affiliation is mentioned ad nauseum when a Republican
is
involved in a sex scandal.

It couldn't be media bias, could it?

http://tinyurl.com/2c3kms

The undereducated must never know the truth, else the Democrats may lose
their base.
--
John


He paid for a hooker. bfd Misdemeaner most places.


Well, except for the potential money laundering angle, I agree. However, if
he were Republican, you know damn good and well it would be splashed
everywhere!

I noted this morning that 60% of those voting in the latest CNN poll say
that Geraldine should *not* apologize for her comment about Obama.
Apparently some folks have some sense. Of course, those watching Beevis and
Butthead didn't vote on CNN!
--
John

[email protected] March 12th 08 01:02 PM

One must wonder...
 
On Mar 12, 9:01*am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 12, 8:56 am, HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Consensual - you know - both parties agree. They consent. The
standard definition. What do you think consensual means? * :)
I think I'll reconsider our personal value system and encourage our
kids that:
Extramarital sex is fun and ok ..... as long as it is consensual. *
Forget the vows and commitments you made to each other.
Drugs are fun and ok ..... as long as everyone in the family agrees.
Introduce your 12 year old to the pleasures.
Lying and cheating is ok .... as long as it only serves your personal
agenda.
In other words, become a Democrat.
Eisboch
Oh, please. We're discussing the criminalization of consensual sex
between adults.
You are trying to steer it that way but, we are talking about
hypocrisies and lack of ethics and morals.
Well, in that case, I offer up The Bush Administration. Pure hypocrisy,
no ethics or morals.


I win.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


No felonies.. you lose..


Well, of course not...The Bush Administration controls the federal
prosecutors, and you know what happens to them...if you don't toe the
line, Gonzo fires you. Or, if you are prosecuted and convicted, the
chief hypocrite gives you a get out of jail free card.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yeah, not like Billary, they just kill you... Can you say "Arkansas
Suicide"

HK March 12th 08 01:03 PM

One must wonder...
 
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
I don't believe that sexual relationships between consenting adults is
the business of anyone other than the adults involved in the
relationship.

Try that line on your wife and see how it flies.



We agree. We're loyal to each other because we are, but we don't believe
that matters of sexuality between consenting adults should be the
business
of the law, or even the general public.

I don't give a damn who Governor Spitzer sleeps with, not even if he
sleeps with hookers, so long as he is using his own money to pay for his
fun. If he was using public funds, he should be prosecuted for that, but
not for the sex.


Well, she's one lucky woman that the great Harry Krause hasn't cheated on
her yet. Perhaps he hasn't had the opportunity.



Once again, you are projecting.

BAR March 12th 08 01:04 PM

One must wonder...
 
HK wrote:
wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"HK" wrote in message
...


Consensual - you know - both parties agree. They consent. The
standard definition. What do you think consensual means? :)


I think I'll reconsider our personal value system and encourage our
kids that:

Extramarital sex is fun and ok ..... as long as it is consensual.
Forget the vows and commitments you made to each other.
Drugs are fun and ok ..... as long as everyone in the family agrees.
Introduce your 12 year old to the pleasures.
Lying and cheating is ok .... as long as it only serves your personal
agenda.

In other words, become a Democrat.

Eisboch


Look at the slime he associates with and admires. It's no wonder he
has no moral or ethical foundation.



Diving back down there again, eh, Jim?

You know who I don't admire, right? I don't admire a president of the
united states who lies the country into a war with Iraq and whose lies
result in thousands being killed and seriously injured. Compared to
that, extracurricular sex seems meek.

I suspect my "morals and ethics" are on a much higher plane than your
typical conservative Republican "family values" hypocrite.


What are your morals and ethics. From what you type in this group you
are without both.


BAR March 12th 08 01:05 PM

One must wonder...
 
HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 12, 8:56 am, HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Consensual - you know - both parties agree. They consent. The
standard definition. What do you think consensual means? :)
I think I'll reconsider our personal value system and encourage our
kids that:
Extramarital sex is fun and ok ..... as long as it is consensual.
Forget the vows and commitments you made to each other.
Drugs are fun and ok ..... as long as everyone in the family agrees.
Introduce your 12 year old to the pleasures.
Lying and cheating is ok .... as long as it only serves your personal
agenda.
In other words, become a Democrat.
Eisboch
Oh, please. We're discussing the criminalization of consensual sex
between adults.
You are trying to steer it that way but, we are talking about
hypocrisies and lack of ethics and morals.
Well, in that case, I offer up The Bush Administration. Pure hypocrisy,
no ethics or morals.

I win.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


No felonies.. you lose..



Well, of course not...The Bush Administration controls the federal
prosecutors, and you know what happens to them...if you don't toe the
line, Gonzo fires you. Or, if you are prosecuted and convicted, the
chief hypocrite gives you a get out of jail free card.


Serving at the pleasure of the president, that's how it works.



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