One must wonder...
 

On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:19:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
...
HK wrote:
Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:40:23 -0500, John H.
wrote:

why most of the major media refuse to mention that Spitzer is a
Democrat,
although the party affiliation is mentioned ad nauseum when a
Republican is
involved in a sex scandal.

It couldn't be media bias, could it?

http://tinyurl.com/2c3kms

The undereducated must never know the truth, else the Democrats may
lose
their base.

Got a better one for you.

Go to Detroit news - paper, TV - whatever, and find what political
affiliation the mayor of Detroit is.

Oh - the reason?

He's involved with the murder a hooker.

And covering/obstructing the investigation.


Republicans involved in these scandals are identified by political party
because the GOP likes to identify itself as the party of "family values,"
and since it obviously is not, it is interesting to point out the various
sexual adventures of "family value" conservatives/Republicans. My
favorite exposes involve conservative/Republicans and gays.

One can only conclude, by your statments above, that the Democrat party
has no values, none, nada, zip. Is that correct.

Throw the bar on the floor, then everything we do will be above the bar
aren't a great party, that's the Democrats.



Democrats are less likely to suggest that people live like families which
only exist in books written for toddlers.


From what I've seen, you could put your period after the word 'families' in
your sentence above.
--
John

One must wonder...
 

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"hk" wrote in message
...
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wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
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Consensual - you know - both parties agree. They consent. The
standard
definition. What do you think consensual means? :)


I think I'll reconsider our personal value system and encourage our
kids
that:

Extramarital sex is fun and ok ..... as long as it is consensual.
Forget
the vows and commitments you made to each other.
Drugs are fun and ok ..... as long as everyone in the family agrees.
Introduce your 12 year old to the pleasures.
Lying and cheating is ok .... as long as it only serves your
personal
agenda.

In other words, become a Democrat.

Eisboch


This behavior seems normal if you are a swinger like Harry. This guy
really gives me the creeps.


Are you projecting again? Why would you think I was a "swinger,"
because I am not upset by adult expressions of sexuality?
No, that's not it. I don't think you can tell the difference between
right and wrong.


Ahh, well. That's your problem, not mine.

Wrong again. It was probably back in the sixties when the oil leaked out
of your moral compass. It's been spinning out of control ever since. The
difference between you and many other people that had that problem back
then is that most of em got their compass fixed and you didn't.
And that's your problem.


You are quite the funny guy. It's always amusing when right wingers make
moral pronouncements about others.

Oh. I've got some stuff for you that will keep you in stitches. But for now
I am awarding you a time out. Buh Bye. snerk

What's funny is to come back to this thread after five hours of playing
golf and see how many people actually attempt to intelligently communicate
with Krause, only to give up in frustration.

--
John

One must wonder...
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:31:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:19:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
news:EI2dnWbACPl_WEranZ2dnUVZ_vTinZ2d@comcast. com...
HK wrote:
Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:40:23 -0500, John H.
wrote:

why most of the major media refuse to mention that Spitzer is a
Democrat,
although the party affiliation is mentioned ad nauseum when a
Republican is
involved in a sex scandal.

It couldn't be media bias, could it?

http://tinyurl.com/2c3kms

The undereducated must never know the truth, else the Democrats may
lose
their base.

Got a better one for you.

Go to Detroit news - paper, TV - whatever, and find what political
affiliation the mayor of Detroit is.

Oh - the reason?

He's involved with the murder a hooker.

And covering/obstructing the investigation.


Republicans involved in these scandals are identified by political
party
because the GOP likes to identify itself as the party of "family
values,"
and since it obviously is not, it is interesting to point out the
various
sexual adventures of "family value" conservatives/Republicans. My
favorite exposes involve conservative/Republicans and gays.

One can only conclude, by your statments above, that the Democrat
party
has no values, none, nada, zip. Is that correct.

Throw the bar on the floor, then everything we do will be above the
bar
aren't a great party, that's the Democrats.



Democrats are less likely to suggest that people live like families
which
only exist in books written for toddlers.


From what I've seen, you could put your period after the word 'families'
in
your sentence above.
--
John


That's because you're lying. Or, because you don't see much. Don't fret
about it. It's a plague.


You, Harry, and JimH sure seem to want to put a lying moniker on me.

I don't do it, and I don't much like those who do.

When I look at the out of wedlock birth statistics in DC and then look at
the percent of Democrats in DC, I get the idea that families don't mean
much.

IOW, Democrats are less likely to suggest people live like families.
--
John


I get the idea you either flunked statistics, or never bothered to take a
course. Fortunately, your lack of knowledge in that area affects nobody but
yourself.

One must wonder...
 

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:31:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:19:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
HK wrote:
Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:40:23 -0500, John H.
wrote:

why most of the major media refuse to mention that Spitzer is a
Democrat,
although the party affiliation is mentioned ad nauseum when a
Republican is
involved in a sex scandal.

It couldn't be media bias, could it?

http://tinyurl.com/2c3kms

The undereducated must never know the truth, else the Democrats may
lose
their base.
Got a better one for you.

Go to Detroit news - paper, TV - whatever, and find what political
affiliation the mayor of Detroit is.

Oh - the reason?

He's involved with the murder a hooker.

And covering/obstructing the investigation.

Republicans involved in these scandals are identified by political
party
because the GOP likes to identify itself as the party of "family
values,"
and since it obviously is not, it is interesting to point out the
various
sexual adventures of "family value" conservatives/Republicans. My
favorite exposes involve conservative/Republicans and gays.
One can only conclude, by your statments above, that the Democrat
party
has no values, none, nada, zip. Is that correct.

Throw the bar on the floor, then everything we do will be above the
bar
aren't a great party, that's the Democrats.


Democrats are less likely to suggest that people live like families
which
only exist in books written for toddlers.

From what I've seen, you could put your period after the word 'families'
in
your sentence above.
--
John

That's because you're lying. Or, because you don't see much. Don't fret
about it. It's a plague.

You, Harry, and JimH sure seem to want to put a lying moniker on me.

I don't do it, and I don't much like those who do.

When I look at the out of wedlock birth statistics in DC and then look at
the percent of Democrats in DC, I get the idea that families don't mean
much.

IOW, Democrats are less likely to suggest people live like families.
--
John


I get the idea you either flunked statistics, or never bothered to take a
course. Fortunately, your lack of knowledge in that area affects nobody but
yourself.



It's just a way to conceal racism.

One must wonder...
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:10:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:31:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
m...
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:19:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
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HK wrote:
Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:40:23 -0500, John H.
wrote:

why most of the major media refuse to mention that Spitzer is a
Democrat,
although the party affiliation is mentioned ad nauseum when a
Republican is
involved in a sex scandal.

It couldn't be media bias, could it?

http://tinyurl.com/2c3kms

The undereducated must never know the truth, else the Democrats
may
lose
their base.

Got a better one for you.

Go to Detroit news - paper, TV - whatever, and find what political
affiliation the mayor of Detroit is.

Oh - the reason?

He's involved with the murder a hooker.

And covering/obstructing the investigation.


Republicans involved in these scandals are identified by political
party
because the GOP likes to identify itself as the party of "family
values,"
and since it obviously is not, it is interesting to point out the
various
sexual adventures of "family value" conservatives/Republicans. My
favorite exposes involve conservative/Republicans and gays.

One can only conclude, by your statments above, that the Democrat
party
has no values, none, nada, zip. Is that correct.

Throw the bar on the floor, then everything we do will be above the
bar
aren't a great party, that's the Democrats.



Democrats are less likely to suggest that people live like families
which
only exist in books written for toddlers.


From what I've seen, you could put your period after the word
'families'
in
your sentence above.
--
John


That's because you're lying. Or, because you don't see much. Don't fret
about it. It's a plague.


You, Harry, and JimH sure seem to want to put a lying moniker on me.

I don't do it, and I don't much like those who do.

When I look at the out of wedlock birth statistics in DC and then look
at
the percent of Democrats in DC, I get the idea that families don't mean
much.

IOW, Democrats are less likely to suggest people live like families.
--
John


I get the idea you either flunked statistics, or never bothered to take a
course. Fortunately, your lack of knowledge in that area affects nobody
but
yourself.


IOW, nothing.
--
John


In other studies, income level is correlated to out of wedlock births. Your
"study" seems to point to something nobody else has ever noticed: political
labels. Maybe you should get in touch with some of the bigger polling
companies and inform them of your discovery.

Do you know the difference between cause and correlation?

One must wonder...
 

On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:31:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:19:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
om...
HK wrote:
Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:40:23 -0500, John H.
wrote:

why most of the major media refuse to mention that Spitzer is a
Democrat,
although the party affiliation is mentioned ad nauseum when a
Republican is
involved in a sex scandal.

It couldn't be media bias, could it?

http://tinyurl.com/2c3kms

The undereducated must never know the truth, else the Democrats may
lose
their base.

Got a better one for you.

Go to Detroit news - paper, TV - whatever, and find what political
affiliation the mayor of Detroit is.

Oh - the reason?

He's involved with the murder a hooker.

And covering/obstructing the investigation.


Republicans involved in these scandals are identified by political
party
because the GOP likes to identify itself as the party of "family
values,"
and since it obviously is not, it is interesting to point out the
various
sexual adventures of "family value" conservatives/Republicans. My
favorite exposes involve conservative/Republicans and gays.

One can only conclude, by your statments above, that the Democrat party
has no values, none, nada, zip. Is that correct.

Throw the bar on the floor, then everything we do will be above the bar
aren't a great party, that's the Democrats.



Democrats are less likely to suggest that people live like families which
only exist in books written for toddlers.


From what I've seen, you could put your period after the word 'families'
in
your sentence above.
--
John


That's because you're lying. Or, because you don't see much. Don't fret
about it. It's a plague.


You, Harry, and JimH sure seem to want to put a lying moniker on me.

I don't do it, and I don't much like those who do.

When I look at the out of wedlock birth statistics in DC and then look at
the percent of Democrats in DC, I get the idea that families don't mean
much.

IOW, Democrats are less likely to suggest people live like families.
--
John

One must wonder...
 

On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:10:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:31:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:19:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
news:EI2dnWbACPl_WEranZ2dnUVZ_vTinZ2d@comcast .com...
HK wrote:
Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:40:23 -0500, John H.
wrote:

why most of the major media refuse to mention that Spitzer is a
Democrat,
although the party affiliation is mentioned ad nauseum when a
Republican is
involved in a sex scandal.

It couldn't be media bias, could it?

http://tinyurl.com/2c3kms

The undereducated must never know the truth, else the Democrats may
lose
their base.

Got a better one for you.

Go to Detroit news - paper, TV - whatever, and find what political
affiliation the mayor of Detroit is.

Oh - the reason?

He's involved with the murder a hooker.

And covering/obstructing the investigation.


Republicans involved in these scandals are identified by political
party
because the GOP likes to identify itself as the party of "family
values,"
and since it obviously is not, it is interesting to point out the
various
sexual adventures of "family value" conservatives/Republicans. My
favorite exposes involve conservative/Republicans and gays.

One can only conclude, by your statments above, that the Democrat
party
has no values, none, nada, zip. Is that correct.

Throw the bar on the floor, then everything we do will be above the
bar
aren't a great party, that's the Democrats.



Democrats are less likely to suggest that people live like families
which
only exist in books written for toddlers.


From what I've seen, you could put your period after the word 'families'
in
your sentence above.
--
John


That's because you're lying. Or, because you don't see much. Don't fret
about it. It's a plague.


You, Harry, and JimH sure seem to want to put a lying moniker on me.

I don't do it, and I don't much like those who do.

When I look at the out of wedlock birth statistics in DC and then look at
the percent of Democrats in DC, I get the idea that families don't mean
much.

IOW, Democrats are less likely to suggest people live like families.
--
John


I get the idea you either flunked statistics, or never bothered to take a
course. Fortunately, your lack of knowledge in that area affects nobody but
yourself.


IOW, nothing.
--
John

One must wonder...
 

On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:40:52 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:10:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:31:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
om...
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:19:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
news:EI2dnWbACPl_WEranZ2dnUVZ_vTinZ2d@comca st.com...
HK wrote:
Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:40:23 -0500, John H.
wrote:

why most of the major media refuse to mention that Spitzer is a
Democrat,
although the party affiliation is mentioned ad nauseum when a
Republican is
involved in a sex scandal.

It couldn't be media bias, could it?

http://tinyurl.com/2c3kms

The undereducated must never know the truth, else the Democrats
may
lose
their base.

Got a better one for you.

Go to Detroit news - paper, TV - whatever, and find what political
affiliation the mayor of Detroit is.

Oh - the reason?

He's involved with the murder a hooker.

And covering/obstructing the investigation.


Republicans involved in these scandals are identified by political
party
because the GOP likes to identify itself as the party of "family
values,"
and since it obviously is not, it is interesting to point out the
various
sexual adventures of "family value" conservatives/Republicans. My
favorite exposes involve conservative/Republicans and gays.

One can only conclude, by your statments above, that the Democrat
party
has no values, none, nada, zip. Is that correct.

Throw the bar on the floor, then everything we do will be above the
bar
aren't a great party, that's the Democrats.



Democrats are less likely to suggest that people live like families
which
only exist in books written for toddlers.


From what I've seen, you could put your period after the word
'families'
in
your sentence above.
--
John


That's because you're lying. Or, because you don't see much. Don't fret
about it. It's a plague.


You, Harry, and JimH sure seem to want to put a lying moniker on me.

I don't do it, and I don't much like those who do.

When I look at the out of wedlock birth statistics in DC and then look
at
the percent of Democrats in DC, I get the idea that families don't mean
much.

IOW, Democrats are less likely to suggest people live like families.
--
John


I get the idea you either flunked statistics, or never bothered to take a
course. Fortunately, your lack of knowledge in that area affects nobody
but
yourself.


IOW, nothing.
--
John


In other studies, income level is correlated to out of wedlock births. Your
"study" seems to point to something nobody else has ever noticed: political
labels. Maybe you should get in touch with some of the bigger polling
companies and inform them of your discovery.

Do you know the difference between cause and correlation?


I'm not referring to 'studies'. I'm referring to facts.
--
John

One must wonder...
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:40:52 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:10:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
m...
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:31:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:19:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
news:EI2dnWbACPl_WEranZ2dnUVZ_vTinZ2d@comc ast.com...
HK wrote:
Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:40:23 -0500, John H.
wrote:

why most of the major media refuse to mention that Spitzer is a
Democrat,
although the party affiliation is mentioned ad nauseum when a
Republican is
involved in a sex scandal.

It couldn't be media bias, could it?

http://tinyurl.com/2c3kms

The undereducated must never know the truth, else the Democrats
may
lose
their base.

Got a better one for you.

Go to Detroit news - paper, TV - whatever, and find what
political
affiliation the mayor of Detroit is.

Oh - the reason?

He's involved with the murder a hooker.

And covering/obstructing the investigation.


Republicans involved in these scandals are identified by
political
party
because the GOP likes to identify itself as the party of "family
values,"
and since it obviously is not, it is interesting to point out the
various
sexual adventures of "family value" conservatives/Republicans. My
favorite exposes involve conservative/Republicans and gays.

One can only conclude, by your statments above, that the Democrat
party
has no values, none, nada, zip. Is that correct.

Throw the bar on the floor, then everything we do will be above
the
bar
aren't a great party, that's the Democrats.



Democrats are less likely to suggest that people live like families
which
only exist in books written for toddlers.


From what I've seen, you could put your period after the word
'families'
in
your sentence above.
--
John


That's because you're lying. Or, because you don't see much. Don't
fret
about it. It's a plague.


You, Harry, and JimH sure seem to want to put a lying moniker on me.

I don't do it, and I don't much like those who do.

When I look at the out of wedlock birth statistics in DC and then look
at
the percent of Democrats in DC, I get the idea that families don't
mean
much.

IOW, Democrats are less likely to suggest people live like families.
--
John


I get the idea you either flunked statistics, or never bothered to take
a
course. Fortunately, your lack of knowledge in that area affects nobody
but
yourself.


IOW, nothing.
--
John


In other studies, income level is correlated to out of wedlock births.
Your
"study" seems to point to something nobody else has ever noticed:
political
labels. Maybe you should get in touch with some of the bigger polling
companies and inform them of your discovery.

Do you know the difference between cause and correlation?


I'm not referring to 'studies'. I'm referring to facts.
--
John


The "facts" are the real people and the things they do, or things which
happen to them. The people and the childbirths are real. The meaning you
assign to them is not real. It's an interpretation.

If you can find a reputable statistician who connects out of wedlock
pregnancies with political affiliation in a meaningful way, then I'll agree
with you. Until then, you're just being disruptive.

One must wonder...
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:16:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:40:52 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
m...
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:10:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:31:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:19:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
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HK wrote:
Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:40:23 -0500, John H.
wrote:

why most of the major media refuse to mention that Spitzer is
a
Democrat,
although the party affiliation is mentioned ad nauseum when a
Republican is
involved in a sex scandal.

It couldn't be media bias, could it?

http://tinyurl.com/2c3kms

The undereducated must never know the truth, else the
Democrats
may
lose
their base.

Got a better one for you.

Go to Detroit news - paper, TV - whatever, and find what
political
affiliation the mayor of Detroit is.

Oh - the reason?

He's involved with the murder a hooker.

And covering/obstructing the investigation.


Republicans involved in these scandals are identified by
political
party
because the GOP likes to identify itself as the party of
"family
values,"
and since it obviously is not, it is interesting to point out
the
various
sexual adventures of "family value" conservatives/Republicans.
My
favorite exposes involve conservative/Republicans and gays.

One can only conclude, by your statments above, that the
Democrat
party
has no values, none, nada, zip. Is that correct.

Throw the bar on the floor, then everything we do will be above
the
bar
aren't a great party, that's the Democrats.



Democrats are less likely to suggest that people live like
families
which
only exist in books written for toddlers.


From what I've seen, you could put your period after the word
'families'
in
your sentence above.
--
John


That's because you're lying. Or, because you don't see much. Don't
fret
about it. It's a plague.


You, Harry, and JimH sure seem to want to put a lying moniker on me.

I don't do it, and I don't much like those who do.

When I look at the out of wedlock birth statistics in DC and then
look
at
the percent of Democrats in DC, I get the idea that families don't
mean
much.

IOW, Democrats are less likely to suggest people live like families.
--
John


I get the idea you either flunked statistics, or never bothered to
take
a
course. Fortunately, your lack of knowledge in that area affects
nobody
but
yourself.


IOW, nothing.
--
John


In other studies, income level is correlated to out of wedlock births.
Your
"study" seems to point to something nobody else has ever noticed:
political
labels. Maybe you should get in touch with some of the bigger polling
companies and inform them of your discovery.

Do you know the difference between cause and correlation?


I'm not referring to 'studies'. I'm referring to facts.
--
John


The "facts" are the real people and the things they do, or things which
happen to them. The people and the childbirths are real. The meaning you
assign to them is not real. It's an interpretation.

If you can find a reputable statistician who connects out of wedlock
pregnancies with political affiliation in a meaningful way, then I'll
agree
with you. Until then, you're just being disruptive.


Do you think all those out of wedlock mothers. or their mothers, in DC are
voting Republican?
--
John


It doesn't matter to me. You're making the connection. Real people who study
these things say income is the issue, not political affiliation.

I don't see the information you were told to find. Turn off the TV and find
it.

One must wonder...
 

"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:06:38 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"John H." wrote in message
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"John H." wrote in message
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wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:19:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
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HK wrote:
Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:40:23 -0500, John H.
wrote:

why most of the major media refuse to mention that Spitzer
is
a
Democrat,
although the party affiliation is mentioned ad nauseum when
a
Republican is
involved in a sex scandal.

It couldn't be media bias, could it?

http://tinyurl.com/2c3kms

The undereducated must never know the truth, else the
Democrats
may
lose
their base.

Got a better one for you.

Go to Detroit news - paper, TV - whatever, and find what
political
affiliation the mayor of Detroit is.

Oh - the reason?

He's involved with the murder a hooker.

And covering/obstructing the investigation.


Republicans involved in these scandals are identified by
political
party
because the GOP likes to identify itself as the party of
"family
values,"
and since it obviously is not, it is interesting to point out
the
various
sexual adventures of "family value"
conservatives/Republicans.
My
favorite exposes involve conservative/Republicans and gays.

One can only conclude, by your statments above, that the
Democrat
party
has no values, none, nada, zip. Is that correct.

Throw the bar on the floor, then everything we do will be
above
the
bar
aren't a great party, that's the Democrats.



Democrats are less likely to suggest that people live like
families
which
only exist in books written for toddlers.


From what I've seen, you could put your period after the word
'families'
in
your sentence above.
--
John


That's because you're lying. Or, because you don't see much. Don't
fret
about it. It's a plague.


You, Harry, and JimH sure seem to want to put a lying moniker on
me.

I don't do it, and I don't much like those who do.

When I look at the out of wedlock birth statistics in DC and then
look
at
the percent of Democrats in DC, I get the idea that families don't
mean
much.

IOW, Democrats are less likely to suggest people live like
families.
--
John


I get the idea you either flunked statistics, or never bothered to
take
a
course. Fortunately, your lack of knowledge in that area affects
nobody
but
yourself.


IOW, nothing.
--
John


In other studies, income level is correlated to out of wedlock births.
Your
"study" seems to point to something nobody else has ever noticed:
political
labels. Maybe you should get in touch with some of the bigger polling
companies and inform them of your discovery.

Do you know the difference between cause and correlation?


I'm not referring to 'studies'. I'm referring to facts.
--
John


The "facts" are the real people and the things they do, or things which
happen to them. The people and the childbirths are real. The meaning you
assign to them is not real. It's an interpretation.

If you can find a reputable statistician who connects out of wedlock
pregnancies with political affiliation in a meaningful way, then I'll
agree
with you. Until then, you're just being disruptive.


Do you think all those out of wedlock mothers. or their mothers, in DC
are
voting Republican?
--
John


It doesn't matter to me. You're making the connection. Real people who
study
these things say income is the issue, not political affiliation.

I don't see the information you were told to find. Turn off the TV and
find
it.


Oh, I see. Well, if the truth doesn't matter to you, go to bed.

Good night.
--
John


Are you saying out of wedlock pregnancy is caused by political affiliation?

One must wonder...
 

On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:16:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:40:52 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:10:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
om...
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:31:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:19:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
news:EI2dnWbACPl_WEranZ2dnUVZ_vTinZ2d@com cast.com...
HK wrote:
Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:40:23 -0500, John H.
wrote:

why most of the major media refuse to mention that Spitzer is a
Democrat,
although the party affiliation is mentioned ad nauseum when a
Republican is
involved in a sex scandal.

It couldn't be media bias, could it?

http://tinyurl.com/2c3kms

The undereducated must never know the truth, else the Democrats
may
lose
their base.

Got a better one for you.

Go to Detroit news - paper, TV - whatever, and find what
political
affiliation the mayor of Detroit is.

Oh - the reason?

He's involved with the murder a hooker.

And covering/obstructing the investigation.


Republicans involved in these scandals are identified by
political
party
because the GOP likes to identify itself as the party of "family
values,"
and since it obviously is not, it is interesting to point out the
various
sexual adventures of "family value" conservatives/Republicans. My
favorite exposes involve conservative/Republicans and gays.

One can only conclude, by your statments above, that the Democrat
party
has no values, none, nada, zip. Is that correct.

Throw the bar on the floor, then everything we do will be above
the
bar
aren't a great party, that's the Democrats.



Democrats are less likely to suggest that people live like families
which
only exist in books written for toddlers.


From what I've seen, you could put your period after the word
'families'
in
your sentence above.
--
John


That's because you're lying. Or, because you don't see much. Don't
fret
about it. It's a plague.


You, Harry, and JimH sure seem to want to put a lying moniker on me.

I don't do it, and I don't much like those who do.

When I look at the out of wedlock birth statistics in DC and then look
at
the percent of Democrats in DC, I get the idea that families don't
mean
much.

IOW, Democrats are less likely to suggest people live like families.
--
John


I get the idea you either flunked statistics, or never bothered to take
a
course. Fortunately, your lack of knowledge in that area affects nobody
but
yourself.


IOW, nothing.
--
John


In other studies, income level is correlated to out of wedlock births.
Your
"study" seems to point to something nobody else has ever noticed:
political
labels. Maybe you should get in touch with some of the bigger polling
companies and inform them of your discovery.

Do you know the difference between cause and correlation?


I'm not referring to 'studies'. I'm referring to facts.
--
John


The "facts" are the real people and the things they do, or things which
happen to them. The people and the childbirths are real. The meaning you
assign to them is not real. It's an interpretation.

If you can find a reputable statistician who connects out of wedlock
pregnancies with political affiliation in a meaningful way, then I'll agree
with you. Until then, you're just being disruptive.


Do you think all those out of wedlock mothers. or their mothers, in DC are
voting Republican?
--
John

One must wonder...
 

On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:06:38 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:16:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:40:52 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
om...
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:10:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
news:25hgt350rqm3rp3qf5ddo56f8fpvhfq6pl@4ax .com...
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:31:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
news:6k7gt31p608ht8ao4ae9ps8llnr5gi638s@4 ax.com...
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:19:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
news:EI2dnWbACPl_WEranZ2dnUVZ_vTinZ2d@c omcast.com...
HK wrote:
Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:40:23 -0500, John H.
wrote:

why most of the major media refuse to mention that Spitzer is
a
Democrat,
although the party affiliation is mentioned ad nauseum when a
Republican is
involved in a sex scandal.

It couldn't be media bias, could it?

http://tinyurl.com/2c3kms

The undereducated must never know the truth, else the
Democrats
may
lose
their base.

Got a better one for you.

Go to Detroit news - paper, TV - whatever, and find what
political
affiliation the mayor of Detroit is.

Oh - the reason?

He's involved with the murder a hooker.

And covering/obstructing the investigation.


Republicans involved in these scandals are identified by
political
party
because the GOP likes to identify itself as the party of
"family
values,"
and since it obviously is not, it is interesting to point out
the
various
sexual adventures of "family value" conservatives/Republicans.
My
favorite exposes involve conservative/Republicans and gays.

One can only conclude, by your statments above, that the
Democrat
party
has no values, none, nada, zip. Is that correct.

Throw the bar on the floor, then everything we do will be above
the
bar
aren't a great party, that's the Democrats.



Democrats are less likely to suggest that people live like
families
which
only exist in books written for toddlers.


From what I've seen, you could put your period after the word
'families'
in
your sentence above.
--
John


That's because you're lying. Or, because you don't see much. Don't
fret
about it. It's a plague.


You, Harry, and JimH sure seem to want to put a lying moniker on me.

I don't do it, and I don't much like those who do.

When I look at the out of wedlock birth statistics in DC and then
look
at
the percent of Democrats in DC, I get the idea that families don't
mean
much.

IOW, Democrats are less likely to suggest people live like families.
--
John


I get the idea you either flunked statistics, or never bothered to
take
a
course. Fortunately, your lack of knowledge in that area affects
nobody
but
yourself.


IOW, nothing.
--
John


In other studies, income level is correlated to out of wedlock births.
Your
"study" seems to point to something nobody else has ever noticed:
political
labels. Maybe you should get in touch with some of the bigger polling
companies and inform them of your discovery.

Do you know the difference between cause and correlation?


I'm not referring to 'studies'. I'm referring to facts.
--
John


The "facts" are the real people and the things they do, or things which
happen to them. The people and the childbirths are real. The meaning you
assign to them is not real. It's an interpretation.

If you can find a reputable statistician who connects out of wedlock
pregnancies with political affiliation in a meaningful way, then I'll
agree
with you. Until then, you're just being disruptive.


Do you think all those out of wedlock mothers. or their mothers, in DC are
voting Republican?
--
John


It doesn't matter to me. You're making the connection. Real people who study
these things say income is the issue, not political affiliation.

I don't see the information you were told to find. Turn off the TV and find
it.


Oh, I see. Well, if the truth doesn't matter to you, go to bed.

Good night.
--
John

One must wonder...
 

On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:14:30 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

A bunch snipped.


It doesn't matter to me. You're making the connection. Real people who
study
these things say income is the issue, not political affiliation.

I don't see the information you were told to find. Turn off the TV and
find
it.


Oh, I see. Well, if the truth doesn't matter to you, go to bed.

Good night.
--
John


Are you saying out of wedlock pregnancy is caused by political affiliation?


Doug, I told you to go to bed.

Out-of-wedlock pregnancies are caused by sex between a male and a female.
The female is not married. The male may or may not be married.

I should have explained that to you.
--
John

One must wonder...
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:14:30 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

A bunch snipped.


It doesn't matter to me. You're making the connection. Real people who
study
these things say income is the issue, not political affiliation.

I don't see the information you were told to find. Turn off the TV and
find
it.


Oh, I see. Well, if the truth doesn't matter to you, go to bed.

Good night.
--
John


Are you saying out of wedlock pregnancy is caused by political
affiliation?


Doug, I told you to go to bed.

Out-of-wedlock pregnancies are caused by sex between a male and a female.
The female is not married. The male may or may not be married.

I should have explained that to you.
--
John


In that case, your use of the political affiliation connection was nonsense.

One must wonder...
 

One must wonder...
 

HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
I don't believe that sexual relationships between consenting adults
is the business of anyone other than the adults involved in the
relationship.

Try that line on your wife and see how it flies.


We agree. We're loyal to each other because we are, but we don't
believe that matters of sexuality between consenting adults should be
the business of the law, or even the general public.

I don't give a damn who Governor Spitzer sleeps with, not even if he
sleeps with hookers, so long as he is using his own money to pay for
his fun. If he was using public funds, he should be prosecuted for
that, but not for the sex.

I think prostitution and drugs should be decriminalized, but i would
never recommend we just ignore those crimes we don't agree with. I
guess that is one of the things you and will just disagree.


If prostitution is decriminalized, well, then, it isn't a crime, is it?

Stupid laws should be fought. If we followed your example, we'd still
have segregation.

We have an established way to change those laws you call stupid. It is
called the legislative process. You are free to encourage your Democrat
brothers and sisters to offer a bill decriminalizing prostitution. Or,
you can go and have a state or municipality enact a law decriminalizing
prostitution.

I am suprised the party of low morales and no ethics, the Democrat
party, hasn't gotten this accomplished yet.

One must wonder...
 

BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
I don't believe that sexual relationships between consenting
adults is the business of anyone other than the adults involved in
the relationship.

Try that line on your wife and see how it flies.


We agree. We're loyal to each other because we are, but we don't
believe that matters of sexuality between consenting adults should
be the business of the law, or even the general public.

I don't give a damn who Governor Spitzer sleeps with, not even if he
sleeps with hookers, so long as he is using his own money to pay for
his fun. If he was using public funds, he should be prosecuted for
that, but not for the sex.

I think prostitution and drugs should be decriminalized, but i would
never recommend we just ignore those crimes we don't agree with. I
guess that is one of the things you and will just disagree.


If prostitution is decriminalized, well, then, it isn't a crime, is it?

Stupid laws should be fought. If we followed your example, we'd still
have segregation.

We have an established way to change those laws you call stupid. It is
called the legislative process. You are free to encourage your Democrat
brothers and sisters to offer a bill decriminalizing prostitution. Or,
you can go and have a state or municipality enact a law decriminalizing
prostitution.

I am suprised the party of low morales and no ethics, the Democrat
party, hasn't gotten this accomplished yet.

There is *nothing* a prostitute does that compares in depravity to what
Bush and Cheney have perpetrated on this country and the world.

One must wonder...
 

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
I don't believe that sexual relationships between consenting adults
is the business of anyone other than the adults involved in the
relationship.

Try that line on your wife and see how it flies.


We agree. We're loyal to each other because we are, but we don't
believe that matters of sexuality between consenting adults should be
the business of the law, or even the general public.

I don't give a damn who Governor Spitzer sleeps with, not even if he
sleeps with hookers, so long as he is using his own money to pay for
his fun. If he was using public funds, he should be prosecuted for
that, but not for the sex.

I think prostitution and drugs should be decriminalized, but i would
never recommend we just ignore those crimes we don't agree with. I
guess that is one of the things you and will just disagree.


If prostitution is decriminalized, well, then, it isn't a crime, is it?

Stupid laws should be fought. If we followed your example, we'd still
have segregation.

We have an established way to change those laws you call stupid. It is
called the legislative process. You are free to encourage your Democrat
brothers and sisters to offer a bill decriminalizing prostitution. Or, you
can go and have a state or municipality enact a law decriminalizing
prostitution.

I am suprised the party of low morales and no ethics, the Democrat party,
hasn't gotten this accomplished yet.


It's already legal in two states, although heavily regulated.

One must wonder...
 

One must wonder...
 

hk wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
I don't believe that sexual relationships between consenting
adults is the business of anyone other than the adults involved
in the relationship.

Try that line on your wife and see how it flies.


We agree. We're loyal to each other because we are, but we don't
believe that matters of sexuality between consenting adults should
be the business of the law, or even the general public.

I don't give a damn who Governor Spitzer sleeps with, not even if
he sleeps with hookers, so long as he is using his own money to pay
for his fun. If he was using public funds, he should be prosecuted
for that, but not for the sex.

I think prostitution and drugs should be decriminalized, but i would
never recommend we just ignore those crimes we don't agree with. I
guess that is one of the things you and will just disagree.


If prostitution is decriminalized, well, then, it isn't a crime, is it?

Stupid laws should be fought. If we followed your example, we'd still
have segregation.

We have an established way to change those laws you call stupid. It is
called the legislative process. You are free to encourage your
Democrat brothers and sisters to offer a bill decriminalizing
prostitution. Or, you can go and have a state or municipality enact a
law decriminalizing prostitution.

I am suprised the party of low morales and no ethics, the Democrat
party, hasn't gotten this accomplished yet.

There is *nothing* a prostitute does that compares in depravity to what
Bush and Cheney have perpetrated on this country and the world.

Right.

One must wonder...
 

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
I don't believe that sexual relationships between consenting adults
is the business of anyone other than the adults involved in the
relationship.
Try that line on your wife and see how it flies.

We agree. We're loyal to each other because we are, but we don't
believe that matters of sexuality between consenting adults should be
the business of the law, or even the general public.

I don't give a damn who Governor Spitzer sleeps with, not even if he
sleeps with hookers, so long as he is using his own money to pay for
his fun. If he was using public funds, he should be prosecuted for
that, but not for the sex.
I think prostitution and drugs should be decriminalized, but i would
never recommend we just ignore those crimes we don't agree with. I
guess that is one of the things you and will just disagree.

If prostitution is decriminalized, well, then, it isn't a crime, is it?

Stupid laws should be fought. If we followed your example, we'd still
have segregation.
We have an established way to change those laws you call stupid. It is
called the legislative process. You are free to encourage your Democrat
brothers and sisters to offer a bill decriminalizing prostitution. Or, you
can go and have a state or municipality enact a law decriminalizing
prostitution.

I am suprised the party of low morales and no ethics, the Democrat party,
hasn't gotten this accomplished yet.


It's already legal in two states, although heavily regulated.



Try and get the law passed today and tell me how much the pro
prostitution side looses by.

One must wonder...
 

"BAR" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
I don't believe that sexual relationships between consenting adults
is the business of anyone other than the adults involved in the
relationship.
Try that line on your wife and see how it flies.

We agree. We're loyal to each other because we are, but we don't
believe that matters of sexuality between consenting adults should be
the business of the law, or even the general public.

I don't give a damn who Governor Spitzer sleeps with, not even if he
sleeps with hookers, so long as he is using his own money to pay for
his fun. If he was using public funds, he should be prosecuted for
that, but not for the sex.
I think prostitution and drugs should be decriminalized, but i would
never recommend we just ignore those crimes we don't agree with. I
guess that is one of the things you and will just disagree.

If prostitution is decriminalized, well, then, it isn't a crime, is it?

Stupid laws should be fought. If we followed your example, we'd still
have segregation.
We have an established way to change those laws you call stupid. It is
called the legislative process. You are free to encourage your Democrat
brothers and sisters to offer a bill decriminalizing prostitution. Or,
you can go and have a state or municipality enact a law decriminalizing
prostitution.

I am suprised the party of low morales and no ethics, the Democrat
party, hasn't gotten this accomplished yet.


It's already legal in two states, although heavily regulated.

Try and get the law passed today and tell me how much the pro prostitution
side looses by.


Probably. Who cares? You can't stop it anyway. Same as drugs.

One must wonder...
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:59:51 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:14:30 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

A bunch snipped.


It doesn't matter to me. You're making the connection. Real people who
study
these things say income is the issue, not political affiliation.

I don't see the information you were told to find. Turn off the TV and
find
it.


Oh, I see. Well, if the truth doesn't matter to you, go to bed.

Good night.
--
John


Are you saying out of wedlock pregnancy is caused by political
affiliation?


Doug, I told you to go to bed.

Out-of-wedlock pregnancies are caused by sex between a male and a
female.
The female is not married. The male may or may not be married.

I should have explained that to you.
--
John


In that case, your use of the political affiliation connection was
nonsense.


No, you just have to get beyond the superficial.
--
John

Yah OK.

One must wonder...
 

On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:59:51 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:14:30 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

A bunch snipped.


It doesn't matter to me. You're making the connection. Real people who
study
these things say income is the issue, not political affiliation.

I don't see the information you were told to find. Turn off the TV and
find
it.


Oh, I see. Well, if the truth doesn't matter to you, go to bed.

Good night.
--
John


Are you saying out of wedlock pregnancy is caused by political
affiliation?


Doug, I told you to go to bed.

Out-of-wedlock pregnancies are caused by sex between a male and a female.
The female is not married. The male may or may not be married.

I should have explained that to you.
--
John


In that case, your use of the political affiliation connection was nonsense.


No, you just have to get beyond the superficial.
--
John