Harry's customers are left-wing, small-market politicians, and left-wing
labor newsletters. He does some PR work trying to clean up the tainted
image of a company (UIllico) that has been involved in shady insider-trading
investments with Global Crossing...the company whose stock gave Democratic
National Chairman Terry McCauliffe a profit of over $12million. Much like
Enron and WorldCom, Global Crossing's top guys are under indictment...as are
several of Ullico's.

Unlike you and I, Bill, Harry really does hate those on the other end of the
political spectrum. He doesn't just come here for amusement. Instead, he
comes here to vent about the frustrations he must feel when he sees
conservatives control all three branches of the government, union membership
plummet to under 15%, and labor bosses under indictment for the very same
acts he chastises Republicans for.

He's really a bitter old man, who, each day, sees his life work going for
naught. That's why the personal attacks get more and more venomous as time
passes. You think it's bad now? Wait until after the 2004 elections. If
he hasn't had a stroke, he's likely to become the next John Malvo.





"Bill Cole" wrote in message
.net...
Harry, Who are you customers? Who do your contacts at those customers?

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:

Isn't that what your Dubya Bush is looking for?
Other countries to jump on your coattails shouting rah rah to support
the
'home team' in your questionable adventures.
I thought you Jr Republicans would appreciate that.

NOYB wrote in message
hlink.net...
Don is a lemming. He's always around for a "yeah-what-he-said", but
never
fights his own battles.








I don't know for sure, but I bet Don White is the name of a real
individual here. Whereas NOYB is the handle of a fellow who is afraid
his beliefs will cost him customers.



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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

Harry,
You only keep company with like-minded individuals who share your hate
of
conservatives, capitalism, and Republicans.

You have no idea with whom I "keep company." I certainly don't have much
use for today's conservatives, but there are some Republicans with whom
I have cordial relationships.

I feel sorry for them. Do you show them your rec.boats posts?



It's easy to say whatever you
want when you have a "job" where the sole purpose is to promote class
warfare, spread false propaganda, and enhance the left's hatred of
Republicans.

Class warfare? Oh, you mean helping the less than wealthy obtain and
hang onto a share of the American dream for themselves and their
children. I plead guilty to that.

Actually, you plead guilty to the desire for redistribution of
wealth...which, according to a post you made in 2000, is your definition of
Socialism.


..As for propaganda, nothing I do
compares with the damage done by the Republican Bush political machine.
Republicans generate all the hate they need on their own. My help is not
needed.




You intend to do an article about how the Bush tax cut hasn't created
jobs
in the 750 companies that are being polled on the matter.


No, I intend to write an article on the number and location of good jobs
at substantial companies actually created by the Bush tax cuts, or, at
least, connected to them. They are not easy to find.






How many of the
people in these companies do you think would be receptive to your
questions
if they knew you and what you stand for? Or if they have read the ****
you
post here?

Our surveyors simply are asking executives at various companies what
hiring they have done because of the tax cuts. Their responses will
determine the story.

Your "surveyors"? Isn't that a form of anonymity...and doesn't it make you
a hypocrite? The person writing the story (you) is extremely biased, and has
made up his mind before he even reads the responses. I wonder how the
executives would respond if they knew what kind of a person would be writing
a story about their responses? How much "business" (ie--cooperation from
those being interviewed) would *you* lose?



Your "job" deals with political issues.

Indeed it does.


Nevertheless, I'll remain anonymous...and keep putting you in your place
when needed.


Still delusional, eh?

Must be the nitrous...right?

NOYB wrote:

Harry's customers are left-wing, small-market politicians

Wrong. All the political candidates I have assisted since 1992 have been
federal office seekers, including several in large states or districts.
I haven't been involved professionally in local-issue politics for 25
years.



, and left-wing
labor newsletters.

Well, actually, labor unions and labor-related organizations generally,
some non-profit, some for profit, and some hopeful of making a profit.
And the occasional construction or architectural oriented magazine. Plus
an organization that is involved in bringing small-scale capitalism to
impoverished residents of disadvantaged countries and in rebuilding
significant cultural landmarks and infrastructure in several
war-devastated countries, and in teaching working poor in these
countries how to build simple housing and arrange for niceties such as
potable water and clean sewage.

My wife, by the way, has as patients several dentists.


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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

Harry's customers are left-wing, small-market politicians

Wrong. All the political candidates I have assisted since 1992 have been
federal office seekers, including several in large states or districts.
I haven't been involved professionally in local-issue politics for 25
years.



, and left-wing
labor newsletters.

Well, actually, labor unions and labor-related organizations generally,
some non-profit, some for profit, and some hopeful of making a profit.
And the occasional construction or architectural oriented magazine. Plus
an organization that is involved in bringing small-scale capitalism to
impoverished residents of disadvantaged countries and in rebuilding
significant cultural landmarks and infrastructure in several
war-devastated countries, and in teaching working poor in these
countries how to build simple housing and arrange for niceties such as
potable water and clean sewage.

My wife, by the way, has as patients several dentists.


These days, as bad as things are for them, I'm sure she has a lot more
Democrats as patients...even you, for instance. BTW--How's the NPD
treatment going? You seem to have taken several steps backwards as of late.
Hopefully she'll up your dosage before Friday's employment figures come out.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:



Your "surveyors"? Isn't that a form of anonymity...and doesn't it make
you
a hypocrite?


No, it makes us social scientists. We've retained a major, household
name polling organization to do our research. My interest is in the data
and in afterwards telephone interviewing some of those who indicate a
willingness to discuss their responses further.


You still didn't answer my questions:
How do you think the executives would respond if they knew what kind of a
person would be writing a story about their responses? How much "business"
(ie--cooperation from those being interviewed) would *you* lose?

NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:



Your "surveyors"? Isn't that a form of anonymity...and doesn't it make
you
a hypocrite?


No, it makes us social scientists. We've retained a major, household
name polling organization to do our research. My interest is in the data
and in afterwards telephone interviewing some of those who indicate a
willingness to discuss their responses further.


You still didn't answer my questions:
How do you think the executives would respond if they knew what kind of a
person would be writing a story about their responses? How much "business"
(ie--cooperation from those being interviewed) would *you* lose?

I didn't answer your question because it isn't deserving of an answer.


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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:



Your "surveyors"? Isn't that a form of anonymity...and doesn't it
make
you
a hypocrite?


No, it makes us social scientists. We've retained a major, household
name polling organization to do our research. My interest is in the
data
and in afterwards telephone interviewing some of those who indicate a
willingness to discuss their responses further.


You still didn't answer my questions:
How do you think the executives would respond if they knew what kind of
a
person would be writing a story about their responses? How much
"business"
(ie--cooperation from those being interviewed) would *you* lose?

I didn't answer your question because it isn't deserving of an answer.

....or you didn't like the question...because you wouldn't like the answer.

"NOYB" wrote in message
. ..
Geez...platinum? When I was in school, those guys only had "golden
parachutes".

Sign 'O the times!

Mark Browne


"." .@. wrote in message
...
On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 00:34:09 GMT, "Joe" wrote:


the overpaid jackass running the company who is only concerned
with lining his own pockets.

How are they (big 3) lining their pockets if they are losing billions a
year?


Notice this is about "the overpaid jackass running the company"

It is called a platinum parachute and if you don't know how they work
here is a good example.

http://www.businessweek.com/1997/13/b352061.htm

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:



Your "surveyors"? Isn't that a form of anonymity...and doesn't it make
you
a hypocrite?


No, it makes us social scientists. We've retained a major, household
name polling organization to do our research. My interest is in the data
and in afterwards telephone interviewing some of those who indicate a
willingness to discuss their responses further.

The survey is still out in the field, but the preliminary results I've
seen so far - and I haven't looked at any new data for at least a week
or more - doesn't show much in the way of job created that senior
executives relate to the Bush tax cuts.

I would love to see how it turns out; you have my address.

Mark Browne


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Harry Krause"
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 10:15 PM
Subject: OT...and a little bit on-topic


NOYB wrote:



Your "surveyors"? Isn't that a form of anonymity...and doesn't it make
you
a hypocrite?


Yes, in both cases. We hire only the surveyors who agree with our political views.
And we want to try to slant the survey so as to make our side look good. So yes, I
guess it does make us a group of hypocrites.

I don't believe it but I finally agree with you. Thank you for bringing that to my
attention.

LOL! Just a bit of "editorial comment" according to the Krause definition.
;-)