wrote:
On Feb 18, 8:36 am, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 05:23:43 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Feb 18, 8:18 am, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 05:05:57 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Feb 18, 7:21 am, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:02:21 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 21:51:41 -0800 (PST), "Eat Me, Trolls"
wrote:
I know a lot on this board are from the States.
My question is... In the States, those who operate boats and do
NOT yet have a Pleasure Craft License, when does the CG say you have
until the "Grandfathered Clause" runs out?
Up here in Canada, Media is spewing the statement that you MUST
have a PC License THIS YEAR. The PC Manual thats being handed out says
2009. Confusing, isnt it?
I guess I'll go by the book, but wondered what the USCG would say.
The CG only enforces when necessary and even then, it's only to
Federal law - local safety rules is up to what ever agency is
responsible for where you are. USCG only check for compliance with
safety rules that apply to their jurisdiction.
In CT, there is a requirement to have a Certificae of Operation which
is required to operate a boat or PWC - anythinig with an engine or
electric motor. Local and state LEO are responsible for safety, speed
and other violations within their jurisdiction. For instance, in
Stonington, CT (mystic/niantic/new london/pawcatuck), there is a local
license for kids under 16 which is the state minimum.
Other states also require something similar, but not all by any means.
I do know that in CT, if you are operating a boat under a foreign
license (like UK or EU), that is acceptable as long as it's current.
There may be local residency laws you have to pay attention to like
length of stay before you are taxed for useage (don't ask - it's a
complicated subject around here), but as far as operation goes, ifyou
are legal where you are, you are legal.
Unless it changed recently, Connecticut has a two tiered PWC requires slightly
more instruction and a few more test questions) Safe Boating Certificate, and
has reciprocity with some states (NY Mass, RI.) If you are in CT waters for
more than 60 days during a calendar year, you have to have a CT safe boating
cert. Rental boats do not require you to have a Cert for rentals 2 weeks or
less. There are NO exceptions for PWC. PWC operation requires a cert no matter
where you are from or how long you are here.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Are you trying to say you can rent a boat and drive it in CT for up to
two weeks if you don't have a cert. Cause if that is what you are
saying, I suggest you are way wrong. That is one of the reasons
Chimney Point rentals went out, cause everyone driving a boat here
needs a cert... Period..
Sec 15-140e-4 Exemption for operators of rental vessels
http://www.ct.gov/dep/lib/dep/regulations/15/15-140e-4through15-140v-...
Period!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
well, the page won't load for some reason but I suppose it is what you
say. All I can say is WOW, I never knew that, was it in the origional
law or redone later??
The page is a .pdf file. You must not have the free adobe acrobat reader
installed on your computer. You might want to get the reader, as that is how all
the downloads for tax forms for state and federal are provided these days. If
you go to the "publications and forms" part of the IRS website there is a link
to download the free reader.

It was an addition to the law, dated 2004. I would have cut and pasted the text,
but that doesn't work with PDF files.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

PDF file? What's that? Adobe reader, what's that? Gimme a break.. You
must be a 'puter expert of something...


Mozilla-based browsers don't seem to like the URL that was offered up.
Dunno why. Got nowhere with it with Firefox, but Internet Exploder
opened it properly. I have Adobe Reader, the full Adobe Acrobat and
Foxit, and was unable to open the file with any of them via Mozilla.

wrote:
On Feb 18, 12:48 pm, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:42:53 -0500, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:54:18 -0500, HK wrote:
I don't use google groups, and my browser could not resolve that URL. I
had to drop down to Internet Exploder to resolve it. Perhaps if you'd
blow some of the snot out of your nose and be a little friendlier, your
outlook on life might change.
It may just be a vista/XP/Firefox problem. My W98 version popped it
right up.
You also use a "real" news reader. Harry can't afford one, and if he borrowed
the money and bought one, he's never be able to configure and use it in a
thousand years.

Some folks don't care to budget a newsreader, and yes, some of folks
with no insurance, terrible med problems, raising a family, taking
care of an elderly family member and paying a couple of mortgages
might just have to budget, even a frekin' news reader, you think that
is funny? I love latte liberals,, geeze, how do the poor fall for
their ****...??


It has nothing to do with "buying" a newsreader, though with all the
free ones available, I don't know why anyone would buy one.

wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:05:25 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Feb 18, 12:48 pm, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:42:53 -0500, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:54:18 -0500, HK wrote:
I don't use google groups, and my browser could not resolve that URL. I
had to drop down to Internet Exploder to resolve it. Perhaps if you'd
blow some of the snot out of your nose and be a little friendlier, your
outlook on life might change.
It may just be a vista/XP/Firefox problem. My W98 version popped it
right up.
You also use a "real" news reader. Harry can't afford one, and if he borrowed
the money and bought one, he's never be able to configure and use it in a
thousand years.
Some folks don't care to budget a newsreader, and yes, some of folks
with no insurance, terrible med problems, raising a family, taking
care of an elderly family member and paying a couple of mortgages
might just have to budget, even a frekin' news reader, you think that
is funny? I love latte liberals,, geeze, how do the poor fall for
their ****...??

I don't believe I was addressing you. Unless you are Harry, of course...

Get a frekin grip.


You're the one who is out of control, saltpeter. I think I will remind
you of it everytime you over-react here.

BTW, I temporarily changed a setting on one of my firefox tabs and it
successfully rendered the connecticut site. Big whoop. Just changed it
back to where it was.

On Feb 18, 1:54*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:49:14 -0500, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:05:25 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Feb 18, 12:48 pm, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:42:53 -0500, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:54:18 -0500, HK wrote:
I don't use google groups, and my browser could not resolve that URL. I
had to drop down to Internet Exploder to resolve it. Perhaps if you'd
blow some of the snot out of your nose and be a little friendlier, your
outlook on life might change.
It may just be a vista/XP/Firefox problem. My W98 version popped it
right up.
You also use a "real" news reader. Harry can't afford one, and if he borrowed
the money and bought one, he's never be able to configure and use it in a
thousand years.
Some folks don't care to budget a newsreader, and yes, some of folks
with no insurance, terrible med problems, raising a family, taking
care of an elderly family member and paying a couple of mortgages
might just have to budget, even a frekin' news reader, you think that
is funny? I love latte liberals,, geeze, how do the poor fall for
their ****...??

I don't believe I was addressing you. Unless you are Harry, of course....

Get a frekin grip.

You're the one who is out of control, saltpeter. I think I will remind
you of it everytime you over-react here.

You just pegged the stupidometer. In fact, I think you broke it. :')- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It's really too bad we all were not in the same room, this could get
funny watching you two. I hear liberals hit like girls

wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:44:27 -0500, HK wrote:

It has nothing to do with "buying" a newsreader, though with all the
free ones available, I don't know why anyone would buy one.

I bought Agent many years ago for about the price of a good bottle of
whiskey and never looked back. Sometimes it is worthwhile having a
licensed copy of a commercial product. If for nothing else, you are
supporting the guy who wrote it. You can also get support when you
have a problem. I got a free upgrade when yenc files showed up.


I have a licensed copy of Agent, albeit a version a few years old. I
don't like it now, and I didn't like it then. I am more than happy with
Thunderbird for email and newsgroups.

D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message

Mozilla-based browsers don't seem to like the URL that was offered up.
Dunno why. Got nowhere with it with Firefox, but Internet Exploder opened
it properly. I have Adobe Reader, the full Adobe Acrobat and Foxit, and
was unable to open the file with any of them via Mozilla.


Had the same result you did. Probably one of those sites that does not
follow the W3C standard.

Interesting. XP, Firefox 2.0.0.1.2, and Adobe reader 7.0
had no trouble with it here. (?)

On Feb 18, 3:39*pm, -rick- wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
Mozilla-based browsers don't seem to like the URL that was offered up.
Dunno why. Got nowhere with it with Firefox, but Internet Exploder opened
it properly. I have Adobe Reader, the full Adobe Acrobat and Foxit, and
was unable to open the file with any of them via Mozilla.

Had the same result you did. *Probably one of those sites that does not
follow the W3C standard.

Interesting. *XP, Firefox 2.0.0.1.2, and Adobe reader 7.0
had no trouble with it here. (?)

OK guys. Let's all step back here. Google or IE shortenes the links.
If you are not paying attention and copy and paste it, is will not
work as it is not a complete URL. that's all that happened here. I
noticed that, and just decided to accept that Salty knew what he was
talking about, I don't always have to be right here.. So, you all can
move along now, nothing to see.....

On Feb 18, 1:58*pm, wrote:
On Feb 18, 1:54*pm, wrote:





On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:49:14 -0500, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:05:25 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Feb 18, 12:48 pm, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:42:53 -0500, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:54:18 -0500, HK wrote:
I don't use google groups, and my browser could not resolve that URL. I
had to drop down to Internet Exploder to resolve it. Perhaps if you'd
blow some of the snot out of your nose and be a little friendlier, your
outlook on life might change.
It may just be a vista/XP/Firefox problem. My W98 version popped it
right up.
You also use a "real" news reader. Harry can't afford one, and if he borrowed
the money and bought one, he's never be able to configure and use it in a
thousand years.
Some folks don't care to budget a newsreader, and yes, some of folks
with no insurance, terrible med problems, raising a family, taking
care of an elderly family member and paying a couple of mortgages
might just have to budget, even a frekin' news reader, you think that
is funny? I love latte liberals,, geeze, how do the poor fall for
their ****...??

I don't believe I was addressing you. Unless you are Harry, of course....

Get a frekin grip.

You're the one who is out of control, saltpeter. I think I will remind
you of it everytime you over-react here.

You just pegged the stupidometer. In fact, I think you broke it. :')- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It's really too bad we all were not in the same room, this could get
funny watching you two. I hear liberals hit like girls- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

This liberal has a black belt in Kenpo karate, and is an
instructor.......

On Feb 18, 4:00*pm, wrote:
On Feb 18, 1:58*pm, wrote:





On Feb 18, 1:54*pm, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:49:14 -0500, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:05:25 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Feb 18, 12:48 pm, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:42:53 -0500, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:54:18 -0500, HK wrote:
I don't use google groups, and my browser could not resolve that URL. I
had to drop down to Internet Exploder to resolve it. Perhaps if you'd
blow some of the snot out of your nose and be a little friendlier, your
outlook on life might change.
It may just be a vista/XP/Firefox problem. My W98 version popped it
right up.
You also use a "real" news reader. Harry can't afford one, and if he borrowed
the money and bought one, he's never be able to configure and use it in a
thousand years.
Some folks don't care to budget a newsreader, and yes, some of folks
with no insurance, terrible med problems, raising a family, taking
care of an elderly family member and paying a couple of mortgages
might just have to budget, even a frekin' news reader, you think that
is funny? I love latte liberals,, geeze, how do the poor fall for
their ****...??

I don't believe I was addressing you. Unless you are Harry, of course...

Get a frekin grip.

You're the one who is out of control, saltpeter. I think I will remind
you of it everytime you over-react here.

You just pegged the stupidometer. In fact, I think you broke it. :')- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It's really too bad we all were not in the same room, this could get
funny watching you two. I hear liberals hit like girls- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

This liberal has a black belt in Kenpo karate, and is an
instructor.......- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You familiar with Leo Wilson out on Green Mtn in Ala..??

On Feb 18, 12:59*pm, BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:45:22 -0500, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:32:49 -0500, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:17:52 -0500, HK
wrote:

wrote:
On Feb 18, 8:36 am, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 05:23:43 -0800 (PST),
wrote:
On Feb 18, 8:18 am, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 05:05:57 -0800 (PST),
wrote:
On Feb 18, 7:21 am, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:02:21 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing

wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 21:51:41 -0800 (PST), "Eat Me, Trolls"
wrote:
I know a lot on this board are from the States.
* * My question is... In the States, those who operate
boats and *do
NOT yet have a Pleasure Craft License, when does the CG
say you have
until the "Grandfathered Clause" runs out?
* * Up here in Canada, Media is spewing the statement
that you MUST
have a PC License THIS YEAR. The PC Manual thats being
handed out says
2009. Confusing, isnt it?
I guess I'll go by the book, but wondered what the USCG
would say.
The CG only enforces when necessary and even then, it's
only to
Federal law - local safety rules is up to what ever agency is
responsible for where you are. *USCG only check for
compliance with
safety rules that apply to their jurisdiction.
In CT, there is a requirement to have a Certificae of
Operation which
is required to operate a boat or PWC - anythinig with an
engine or
electric motor. *Local and state LEO are responsible for
safety, speed
and other violations within their jurisdiction. *For
instance, in
Stonington, CT (mystic/niantic/new london/pawcatuck),
there is a local
license for kids under 16 which is the state minimum.
Other states also require something similar, but not all
by any means.
I do know that in CT, if you are operating a boat under a
foreign
license (like UK or EU), that is acceptable as long as
it's current.
There may be local residency laws you have to pay
attention to like
length of stay before you are taxed for useage (don't ask
- it's a
complicated subject around here), but as far as operation
goes, ifyou
are legal where you are, you are legal.
Unless it changed recently, Connecticut has a two tiered
PWC requires slightly
more instruction and a few more test questions) Safe
Boating Certificate, and
has reciprocity with some states (NY Mass, RI.) *If you are
in CT waters for
more than 60 days during a calendar year, you have to have
a CT safe boating
cert. Rental boats do not require you to have a Cert for
rentals 2 weeks or
less. There are NO exceptions for PWC. PWC operation
requires a cert no matter
where you are from or how long you are here.- Hide quoted
text -
- Show quoted text -
Are you trying to say you can rent a boat and drive it in CT
for up to
two weeks if you don't have a cert. Cause if that is what
you are
saying, I suggest you are way wrong. That is one of the reasons
Chimney Point rentals went out, cause everyone driving a
boat here
needs a cert... Period..
Sec 15-140e-4 *Exemption for operators of rental vessels
http://www.ct.gov/dep/lib/dep/regulations/15/15-140e-4through15-140v-...

Period!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
well, the page won't load for some reason but I suppose it is
what you
say. All I can say is WOW, I never knew that, was it in the
origional
law or redone later??
The page is a .pdf file. You must not have the free adobe
acrobat reader
installed on your computer. You might want to get the reader,
as that is how all
the downloads for tax forms for state and federal are provided
these days. If
you go to the "publications and forms" part of the IRS website
there is a link
to download the free reader.

It was an addition to the law, dated 2004. I would have cut and
pasted the text,
but that doesn't work with PDF files.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
PDF file? What's that? Adobe reader, what's that? Gimme a
break.. You
must be a 'puter expert of something...
Mozilla-based browsers don't seem to like the URL that was
offered up. Dunno why. Got nowhere with it with Firefox, but
Internet Exploder opened it properly. I have Adobe Reader, the
full Adobe Acrobat and Foxit, and was unable to open the file
with any of them via Mozilla.

I use Firefox and have absolutely no trouble with PDF's. Sounds
like a personal
problem.

What are you, Loogy's father? Are you assuming that because you use
Firefox and have no issue, all your settings in every aspect of
every program that relates to clicking on a URL and opening it are
the same as all of my settings?

Keee-rist. We are drowning in simple-minded idiots.
Lets not lose sight of the fact that it's YOU that's having a
problem, not me. I
guess that establishes you as the simple-minded idiot.

*I* am not having a problem with the URL, my Firefox set-up is, and
with that URL alone. If it bothered me enough, I'd track down the
reason and either change a setting or send in a problem report. But
since I don't rent boats in Connecticut, I don't give a sh*t.

Boink.

BTW, I am not the only Firefox user who reported the problem. Suck on
that for a while.

I know you think you are special and unique, but that doesn't mean I ever
thought you were the only one having the problem. Your endless claims of
superior computer knowlege may have made folkscome *to expect that you
at least
know the basics. Guess not.

Everything you add here makes you look dumber and dumber. Did you read
my response? If the problem bothered me enough, I would track it down
and resolve it. But the problem didn't bother me enough, so I didn't
bother with it.

Here it is, the I don't care about it anymore because I am getting my
ass kicked.

Try responding to the information in the post to which you are
responding, else you look as stupid as your son, Loogy.

Where's your son?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Harry feels the need to try and insult me. He does that to anyone who
dare mention his many, many lies and the fact that he acts like a name
calling child and a nasty old man all at the same time.

Lobster boat?
Hatteras?
Dad went transatlantic in a 20' runabout and got a fireboat welcome in
NY?
Single handed around the horn?
Sailed from S.F. to Hawaii?
Wouldn't one think that there would be newspaper articles, pictures,
etc. of such incredible things and feats?