Jim wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
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Tim wrote:
On Feb 12, 5:18 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:52:07 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Is there really such a thing as "news" on USENET?
Originally, in the land of the Intertubes and long before the WWW,
Usenet was the way to organize, thread and post messages of interest.
During the early days, it was the way for the average joe to
communicate with others via computer. A lot like IRC (which came a
lot later) actually only much more text based and permanent. It was
kind of an offshoot of the original ARPAnet.

Originally, Usenet was set up in hierarchies and those hierarchies
were enforced by common discipline. Originally, there were eight
hierarchies - comp (computer), misc., news., sci. (science), talk,
soc. (social), rec. (recreational), and humanties.

The individual hierarchy group approval process requried a FAQ and a
strict spam policy and a review of it's purpose by a "council" and an
open discussion group of wether the new group was a duplication of a
current news group or something original. It was lengthy.

This control was eventually challenged by the alt. category (created
originally by the open net crowd) who chaffed under the "control"
enforced by the original eight hierarchy and the approval process.

At some point, the system became so large and unmanageable that
everybody pretty much gave up trying to control it. At about the same
time as the control collapse, the WWW started to really take off and
new methods replaced Usenet like web forums, chat, etc.

So the answer to the question is that yes, once it served a great
purpose and worked as long as everybody played the same game.

Now? Not so much.

Tom, jsut in the last couple years a friend of mine passed away But he
was on the "ground floor" of public computer link and internet
technology. He was the origional "Sysop" of "Omega Bullitin Boards.
Com) Omegabbs.

He used to monitor his various chat forums,a nd if somebody go into a
cussing fit, he'd give them an hr. or so "time out". or if servere and
repeated he'd boot em off.

So primitive in the day that he'd have to shut the main computer down
at from 2:AM- 4:AM just so it could "purge" itself...


anyhow ....


Like many others, I "subscribe" or am "a member of" several non-usenet
discussion "groups." Most of the discussions are on-topic, but not
all, and all manner of "fooling around" is tolerated, but the personal
insult kings, a**holes like Reggie, Loogy, Jim, et cetera, are quickly
banned. Their IPs are logged, and they can't post again. Ever.

Take a look in the mirror Harry, you potty mouth fool.


Got a boat? Bet you don't.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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By the way, did you guys close on Soul Source?



Now it's *this* Friday. (was supposed to be last Friday)

Last Thursday, a day before the closing, the buyer decided to finance
through a home equity loan or second mortgage instead of the boat loan he
had originally set up. Kinda ****ed me off, but there's really nothing
that can be done about it. In a boat sale, the buyer holds all the cards
.... the seller just has to adjust.

He was supposed to close on the financing yesterday at 4pm. Then,
apparently there is a 3 day *wait* period in Maryland, so the funds won't be
available until Friday.

I get a kick out of his broker. He sent an email apology for the 11th hour
delay and informed me that the buyer had authorized the release of the
downpayment funds to show "good faith". Big deal. It means the two
brokers get most of their commissions. The seller gets nada. I don't
care much for the buyer's broker. He's a glib motormouth who thinks he's
big shot. Back when we were trying to schedule the sea trial and survey, I
was concerned about the weather at the time and made it clear that the final
decision to get underway would be mine. He tried pulling the legal angle,
reminding me that I "had a contract". That didn't go over very well and
I politely but firmly told him where he could shove his contract. I don't
think he likes me much either.

But, there's nothing to suggest the deal won't happen. The buyer is
actually a pretty decent guy and is looking forward to taking "Soul Source"
to MD this spring.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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By the way, did you guys close on Soul Source?



Now it's *this* Friday. (was supposed to be last Friday)

Last Thursday, a day before the closing, the buyer decided to finance
through a home equity loan or second mortgage instead of the boat loan he
had originally set up. Kinda ****ed me off, but there's really nothing
that can be done about it. In a boat sale, the buyer holds all the cards
... the seller just has to adjust.

He was supposed to close on the financing yesterday at 4pm. Then,
apparently there is a 3 day *wait* period in Maryland, so the funds won't be
available until Friday.


Right of recission, I believe, is what it is called. Mortgages, home
improvements, several other major purchases. Three day wait. Hell, I had
to wait FIVE business days for the check on the sale of my 25-foot
Parker to clear because, my crappy bank said, "well, it was drawn on a
money market account." Now that is what I call living off the float.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:01:46 -0500, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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By the way, did you guys close on Soul Source?


Now it's *this* Friday. (was supposed to be last Friday)

Last Thursday, a day before the closing, the buyer decided to finance
through a home equity loan or second mortgage instead of the boat loan he
had originally set up. Kinda ****ed me off, but there's really nothing
that can be done about it. In a boat sale, the buyer holds all the cards
... the seller just has to adjust.

He was supposed to close on the financing yesterday at 4pm. Then,
apparently there is a 3 day *wait* period in Maryland, so the funds won't be
available until Friday.
Right of recission, I believe, is what it is called. Mortgages, home
improvements, several other major purchases. Three day wait. Hell, I had
to wait FIVE business days for the check on the sale of my 25-foot
Parker to clear because, my crappy bank said, "well, it was drawn on a
money market account." Now that is what I call living off the float.

That may not be the bank's fault. I know on the last home deal we
did, we received the funds by check instead of electronic money
transfer - it was the way the buyer's lawyer wanted to do it.

Turns out, the lawyer wanted the float. We deposited the check and
when it was proferred for payment, there was a delay because of the
way the escrow account was set up - payment had to be "authorized".

By that afternoon, the funds had been transferred electronically and
the check returned. It's good to have friends in power on the Bar
Association plus having the son of a former State Supreme court Chief
Justice and a former Superior Court judge as your attorney. :)


It was Bank of America. It was the bank's fault! :- Worst bank ever.
Only reason we keep it is because it has ATM machines about everywhere,
and if we need to withdraw some quick bucks, we can do it without those
damned fees.

But I agree, knowing someone at the Bar Association is helpful.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 09:55:07 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

I get a kick out of his broker. He sent an email apology for the 11th
hour
delay and informed me that the buyer had authorized the release of the
downpayment funds to show "good faith". Big deal.

Ah yes - well, that's the way of it.

Good luck.


Just got another email from the buyer's broker. The financing closing was
held and the buyer is forwarding our check, dated Friday, today. So, it
looks like it's a done deal.

I've promised to meet with him when he comes up in March to go over the boat
again in a more leisurely manner, and to deliver a couple of items that I've
had stored at my house (couch, end table, etc.)

Now, should the GB sell, I am going boat shopping.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 09:55:07 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

I get a kick out of his broker. He sent an email apology for the 11th
hour
delay and informed me that the buyer had authorized the release of the
downpayment funds to show "good faith". Big deal.
Ah yes - well, that's the way of it.

Good luck.


Just got another email from the buyer's broker. The financing closing was
held and the buyer is forwarding our check, dated Friday, today. So, it
looks like it's a done deal.

I've promised to meet with him when he comes up in March to go over the boat
again in a more leisurely manner, and to deliver a couple of items that I've
had stored at my house (couch, end table, etc.)

Now, should the GB sell, I am going boat shopping.

Eisboch




You shopping for "fast" or "slow" boat?

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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That may not be the bank's fault. I know on the last home deal we
did, we received the funds by check instead of electronic money
transfer - it was the way the buyer's lawyer wanted to do it.

Turns out, the lawyer wanted the float. We deposited the check and
when it was proferred for payment, there was a delay because of the
way the escrow account was set up - payment had to be "authorized".

By that afternoon, the funds had been transferred electronically and
the check returned. It's good to have friends in power on the Bar
Association plus having the son of a former State Supreme court Chief
Justice and a former Superior Court judge as your attorney. :)


Wire transfers to an active, main account is not a particularly safe way to
transfer money anymore according to some "experts". The fact that you make
your account number available electronically makes it vulnerable to hacking,
they claim.

I was going to do a wire transfer to receive payment for one of the cars I
sold. Instead of using one of our "real" accounts, I opened another account
by deposited 50 bucks in it, to be used strictly for wire transfers.
Problem is, the guy ended up sending a check, I never used the account and I
forgot about it.
About a year later I received a notice from our bank informing me that my
"account" was overdrawn and I was being charged a penalty. I didn't have a
clue what they were talking about at first, but it turns out it was the wire
transfer account. Because it didn't have a minimum balance, the bank
automatically charged a monthly "service fee" to maintain it and the fees
had exceeded the original $50 deposit.

Eisboch

"HK" wrote in message
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You shopping for "fast" or "slow" boat?

The one I am eyeballing is fast compared to the GB. But, it can also be
operated slowly.
If things come together, I'll give details. Right now I want to keep
ShortWave guessing.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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You shopping for "fast" or "slow" boat?

The one I am eyeballing is fast compared to the GB. But, it can also be
operated slowly.
If things come together, I'll give details. Right now I want to keep
ShortWave guessing.

Eisboch




I hope it's one of those neato "tugs."

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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Very cool. End of an era and beginning of the new.

What 'cha thinking about buying - assuming Pangea sells that is.

Oh - I got dibs on ride. :)


Top Secret. At least until if and when it happens.

Eisboch