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On Feb 7, 8:38 am, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 03:06:53 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"





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On Feb 6, 8:37 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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On Feb 6, 5:39 pm, HK wrote:

Tim wrote:

HK wrote:

Their guess is that the GOP nominees will be
McCain and Huckabee (their nightmare GOP ticket), and that
the
best
hope
is to split off entirely and finally from the GOP and form
a
third
party.

And for the Dems, what would be your "nightmare ticket",
Harry

Either Hillary or Barack in the White House suits me just
fine.

You like nightmares??

==========================

Choose your favorite nightmare. They're all bought & paid for.
There
are
no
exceptions. Hopefully, you can figure out who's the best
scumbag
of
the
lot.
When you do, come back and explain how you did it.

No, you'll have to figure that out on your own.

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I have a system of sorts. I know every president since Carter has
been
on
their knees, blowing the Saudi royal family, which is what got us
into
the
**** we're in lately. That eliminates Hillary. Guilt through
association.
Romney never stops smiling. Give that asshole a pair of tacky
white
shoes
and he could be selling used cars all day long. He's off the
list.
Huckabee
is a disgrace even to some evangelicals. He's off the list. That
leaves
McCain & Obama. Maybe...just maybe they haven't been fondled by
the
Saudis,
and in the moment of sanity, they'll do the right thing with that
country.

What would you have them do, oh bright one? Sell oil only to the
Chinese
and Russians?
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Why are you so against the Chinese, John? Do you realize they are
bailing out the Bush fiasco as we speak? We are borrowing money from
them at an amazing rate.

Where was the comment against the Chinese? Does implying that they
use
oil
mean I'm 'against' them?

Do you think the national interests of the Chinese include the
welfare
of
the USA?
--
John H


They sure do like our bonds and our manufacturing business. So yes,
I'm
sure
they have an interest in our financial health.


For the moment.
--
John H


What other part of the world do you think is anywhere near being able to
replace the cash flow China gets from us?


Pertinence?
--
John H


Yes, there is pertinence. Read the last few messages again. If you don't
see
the pertinence, nothing I can say will help you.


Doug, I've already agreed that the Chinese, for the moment, are interested
in our financial welfare, as long as they find it in their national
interests to be so interested.
--
John H


You also said "for the moment". What will change their interest in our well
being?

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We could've "owned" Saudi Arabia as easily as we "owned" Iraq. Probably
easier, since it would've been totally unexpected. And, we have little or
no concern for what the rest of the world thinks, so that's not a factor
at all.


Hope you are listening to Romney right now.

Eisboch

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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We could've "owned" Saudi Arabia as easily as we "owned" Iraq. Probably
easier, since it would've been totally unexpected. And, we have little or
no concern for what the rest of the world thinks, so that's not a factor
at all.


Hope you are listening to Romney right now.

Eisboch



No. What's up?

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Eisboch wrote:
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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We could've "owned" Saudi Arabia as easily as we "owned" Iraq. Probably
easier, since it would've been totally unexpected. And, we have little or
no concern for what the rest of the world thinks, so that's not a factor
at all.


Hope you are listening to Romney right now.

Eisboch




I am. Y-A-W-N. Rehash of hash.

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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Which measures do you feel have been most effective in preventing another
attack?


You and I have no clue. If we did, they wouldn't be effective.
But, tying up resources and attention of terrorists in Iraq helps.

It also, (and here's where you will flip out) assures our access to oil
(although we are not currently taking advantage of it.) We still get the
bulk from other sources.

You can be as idealistic as you want about it but the security of this
nation is dependent on oil. Until that changes, it's a chess game and our
Achilles's heel.

You are good at asking questions. Let me ask one of you that's probably
uncomfortable for many to answer.
If suddenly the US supply of oil dried up .... Saudi Arabia said "Screw
you".... and the rest of our sources of oil withdrew from the market ....
would you support military action to secure oil for the US?

Eisboch

Eisboch

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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Which measures do you feel have been most effective in preventing another
attack?


You and I have no clue. If we did, they wouldn't be effective.
But, tying up resources and attention of terrorists in Iraq helps.

If they're so effective, then why have there been attacks in England, Spain,
and Bali?



It also, (and here's where you will flip out) assures our access to oil
(although we are not currently taking advantage of it.) We still get the
bulk from other sources.

Obviously, we need access to oil. This is why Truman went to great lengths
to make sure our diplomats, and representatives of our oil companies were
all over the Saudis like cats on mice at the end of the war. We built that
country, and edged out our biggest competitor: The British.



You can be as idealistic as you want about it but the security of this
nation is dependent on oil. Until that changes, it's a chess game and our
Achilles's heel.

You are good at asking questions. Let me ask one of you that's probably
uncomfortable for many to answer.
If suddenly the US supply of oil dried up .... Saudi Arabia said "Screw
you".... and the rest of our sources of oil withdrew from the market ....
would you support military action to secure oil for the US?

Eisboch


Sure. Why not? But, I'd pick the country which also posed the biggest
security risk in other ways.

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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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We could've "owned" Saudi Arabia as easily as we "owned" Iraq. Probably
easier, since it would've been totally unexpected. And, we have little or
no concern for what the rest of the world thinks, so that's not a factor
at all.

Hope you are listening to Romney right now.

Eisboch



No. What's up?



Turn off your Newsgroup reader and read some real news, either online or
the internet.

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"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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We could've "owned" Saudi Arabia as easily as we "owned" Iraq. Probably
easier, since it would've been totally unexpected. And, we have little
or no concern for what the rest of the world thinks, so that's not a
factor at all.

Hope you are listening to Romney right now.

Eisboch



No. What's up?

Turn off your Newsgroup reader and read some real news, either online or
the internet.



Ah ha! Excellent. Now maybe he can focus his efforts on helping some used
car dealers moved inventory with that big, fake never-ending smile of his.

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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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We could've "owned" Saudi Arabia as easily as we "owned" Iraq. Probably
easier, since it would've been totally unexpected. And, we have little
or no concern for what the rest of the world thinks, so that's not a
factor at all.

Hope you are listening to Romney right now.

Eisboch


No. What's up?
Turn off your Newsgroup reader and read some real news, either online or
the internet.



Ah ha! Excellent. Now maybe he can focus his efforts on helping some used
car dealers moved inventory with that big, fake never-ending smile of his.



Turn off your NG reader, you need a break.

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On Feb 7, 12:47*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:25:00 -0500, Eisboch wrote:

Clinton's only action, other than parroting the above in speeches, was
to lob a bunch of cruise missiles that accomplished nothing. *(Many
believe it was a "wag the dog" effort to distract media attention from
his personal problems with "that woman".) *Who knows for sure?

Yup, Clinton lobs a few cruise missiles and he is accused of "wag the
dog". *Imagine, if he had done what GWB did. *What would you be saying
then? *Probably, quite similar things to what are being said about GWB..
You don't preemptively invade a country on faulty intelligence. *This is
Bush's war, he deserves all the lambasting he gets.

If he had done what GWB did, but did it back in 1998, there very well have
never been a 9/11.
Now don't go blowing smoke about Iraq having nothing to do with 9/11. *It's
the engagement and weakening of al Qaeda and it's many terrorist
organizations/factions across the globe that has, so far, been effective in
preventing another attack. *There are no "good" terrorists and that included
Saddam.

Another thing Bush warned us of, which is now often forgotten, especially
around the election cycles.
He warned us that it's going to be a long, long fight.

Eisboch

He also told us a long, long time ago that it was Mission
Accomplished......