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On Jan 27, 11:30 am, HK wrote:
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On Jan 27, 7:18 am, HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
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JG2U wrote:
You probably don't realize that is one of the fundamental
purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide
an outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to those
that need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a
national and
world-wide level.
I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to shove
itself in my life.
Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons
show up at the door. I tell them I will listen to their
pitch but, they first have to listen to my pitch to become
a Catholic. Usually the say not thank you and get on their
way.
You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here
about the door to door church people.
Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on
your door with the intent on converting you to his religion?
Neither of those events concern me.
Ok, what specific events concern you?
There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to
force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that
hint, you can figure out one or two of them.
Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?
Let's see if you have any smarts...
I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their houses
of worship, nor do I care what believers do in their homes. I am
only concerned when those religions or believers try to shove
their beliefs onto my secular society. This is NOT a Christian
nation, a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I don't want
a bunch of Christian nut cases determining what is taught in
public schools, when "life" begins, whether we should have
abortions, what sort of stem cell research is ok, what stores can
remain open on Sunday, et cetera.
Got it now?
I understand that you come across as a spoiled brat. If things are
not the way you expect or want then they are wrong.
It is not your secular society, it is our society. The majority of
our society disagrees with your view of religion in the public
square. This country was founded and formed by those who publicly
professed a belief in God. You don't have to like you just have to
accept it and live with it.
Like it or not those "Christian nut cases" determine a lot of what
happens in our society.
Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooosh.
I'm not talking about a profession of faith. D'uh.
Sure you are. What is the differences between someone saying God
Bless You and asking you if your have been saved?
BTW, when I am asked if I have been saved I quickly respond back with
yes I am saved, I am a Catholic. They quickly walk away.
Just what the hell are you afraid of hearing and why can such a
erudite word smith such as yourself come up with a retort that stops
the asker dead in their tracks?
You are not discussing what I am discussing.
What are you discussing. You keep referring to they and them and for
some reason you won't name them specifically.
Using descriptions what group of "Christian nut cases" are you afraid of
and why?
I've explained it three times, in simple language.
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You have not given me one example where religeon has been shoved down
your throat beyond general advertizing tactics similar to Fuller
Brush, or any phone bank... No one has shoved anything down your
throat, it is a hollow lie...
You and Bert and one or two others seem incapable of understanding
abstract thinking. This is not my fault or my problem.

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Well then, bring the level down a notch for me. You know I am
listening, and trying to catch up. It's not like you are pressed for
time to the point you can't take 3 minutes and post a simple one just
for me, I give you the time of day Who else has shoved religeon down
your throat in your lifetime? I am pretty sure you have the time to
answer that one, I addressed your last issue, throw me another..


I'll keep this short. I am talking about the "religious agenda," not the
door to door sales of Christianity, or whatever. What I am referring to
are the positions that are anti-stem cell research, anti-evolution,
anti-abortion, anti-universal access to health care, anti-sex education
in the schools bull**** that those with a religious agenda push from the
point of view of their sects. Now, if they want to push that bull**** in
their churches, fine. But not onto the laws of the land or the
regulations thereof.

I have no fear of door to door religious salespeople. The ones around
here are mostly my neighbors, and they are fine folks.

Got it now?





--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

HK wrote:
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Well then, bring the level down a notch for me. You know I am
listening, and trying to catch up. It's not like you are pressed for
time to the point you can't take 3 minutes and post a simple one just
for me, I give you the time of day Who else has shoved religeon down
your throat in your lifetime? I am pretty sure you have the time to
answer that one, I addressed your last issue, throw me another..


I'll keep this short. I am talking about the "religious agenda," not the
door to door sales of Christianity, or whatever. What I am referring to
are the positions that are anti-stem cell research, anti-evolution,
anti-abortion, anti-universal access to health care, anti-sex education
in the schools bull**** that those with a religious agenda push from the
point of view of their sects. Now, if they want to push that bull**** in
their churches, fine. But not onto the laws of the land or the
regulations thereof.

The majority of the citizens of this country disagrees with your
"position" on these issues. The majority of citizens of this country
want the "religious agenda."

I have no fear of door to door religious salespeople. The ones around
here are mostly my neighbors, and they are fine folks.

Got it now?

Not really. You have a hatred for those who have views that do not
exactly match yours. Why the hatred. I don't like what Johnson, Carter
and Clinton did to this country but, I don't hate them for what they
did, I don't wish them ill.

BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
wrote:

Well then, bring the level down a notch for me. You know I am
listening, and trying to catch up. It's not like you are pressed for
time to the point you can't take 3 minutes and post a simple one just
for me, I give you the time of day Who else has shoved religeon down
your throat in your lifetime? I am pretty sure you have the time to
answer that one, I addressed your last issue, throw me another..


I'll keep this short. I am talking about the "religious agenda," not
the door to door sales of Christianity, or whatever. What I am
referring to are the positions that are anti-stem cell research,
anti-evolution, anti-abortion, anti-universal access to health care,
anti-sex education in the schools bull**** that those with a religious
agenda push from the point of view of their sects. Now, if they want
to push that bull**** in their churches, fine. But not onto the laws
of the land or the regulations thereof.

The majority of the citizens of this country disagrees with your
"position" on these issues. The majority of citizens of this country
want the "religious agenda."

I have no fear of door to door religious salespeople. The ones around
here are mostly my neighbors, and they are fine folks.

Got it now?

Not really. You have a hatred for those who have views that do not
exactly match yours. Why the hatred. I don't like what Johnson, Carter
and Clinton did to this country but, I don't hate them for what they
did, I don't wish them ill.



You really truly are a simple-minded fool and your perceptions of what
the citizens of this country want are worthless.

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
wrote:

Well then, bring the level down a notch for me. You know I am
listening, and trying to catch up. It's not like you are pressed for
time to the point you can't take 3 minutes and post a simple one just
for me, I give you the time of day Who else has shoved religeon down
your throat in your lifetime? I am pretty sure you have the time to
answer that one, I addressed your last issue, throw me another..


I'll keep this short. I am talking about the "religious agenda," not
the door to door sales of Christianity, or whatever. What I am
referring to are the positions that are anti-stem cell research,
anti-evolution, anti-abortion, anti-universal access to health care,
anti-sex education in the schools bull**** that those with a
religious agenda push from the point of view of their sects. Now, if
they want to push that bull**** in their churches, fine. But not onto
the laws of the land or the regulations thereof.

The majority of the citizens of this country disagrees with your
"position" on these issues. The majority of citizens of this country
want the "religious agenda."

I have no fear of door to door religious salespeople. The ones around
here are mostly my neighbors, and they are fine folks.

Got it now?

Not really. You have a hatred for those who have views that do not
exactly match yours. Why the hatred. I don't like what Johnson, Carter
and Clinton did to this country but, I don't hate them for what they
did, I don't wish them ill.



You really truly are a simple-minded fool and your perceptions of what
the citizens of this country want are worthless.


Your are blinded by something. We haven't figured out what event in your
life triggered your hatred for those that disagree with you but, we are
working through it and someday we will uncover it.

HK wrote:
BAR wrote:

Not really. You have a hatred for those who have views that do not
exactly match yours. Why the hatred. I don't like what Johnson, Carter
and Clinton did to this country but, I don't hate them for what they
did, I don't wish them ill.


You really truly are a simple-minded fool and your perceptions of what
the citizens of this country want are worthless.


Probably not true.

But he is right about your hatred of people who disagree with you,
krause. Why, you even publically stated you wished certain persons dead.

Now if wishing death upon those who disagree with you isn't hatred,
nothing is.

To believe, as you do, that your "compassion" and 'charity' buys you
influence with your diety is nothing more than a diety of your vain
imagination.

-- Charlie