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You probably don't realize that is one of the
fundamental purposes of
the church that you fight so hard against ... to provide
an outreach
into the local community to provide assistance to those
that need it,
and as part of a larger organization to provide it on a
national and
world-wide level.

I don't fight against "the church" until it tries to
shove itself in my life.

Or, do like I do when the Jehovah's Witness' or Mormons
show up at the door. I tell them I will listen to their
pitch but, they first have to listen to my pitch to become
a Catholic. Usually the say not thank you and get on their
way.


You really truly are a dumb foch. I am not talking here
about the door to door church people.

Enlighten me Mr. Genius! What is the difference between the
President of the US saying God Bless and the guy knocking on
your door with the intent on converting you to his religion?


Neither of those events concern me.

Ok, what specific events concern you?



There are quite a few. Most of them concern churchies trying to
force their beliefs on the rest of society. I'll bet with that
hint, you can figure out one or two of them.

Don't Mormon's and Jehovah's Witness' fall into that category?


Let's see if you have any smarts...

I don't care what religions do (within reason) within their
houses of worship, nor do I care what believers do in their
homes. I am only concerned when those religions or believers try
to shove their beliefs onto my secular society. This is NOT a
Christian nation, a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, et cetera. I
don't want a bunch of Christian nut cases determining what is
taught in public schools, when "life" begins, whether we should
have abortions, what sort of stem cell research is ok, what
stores can remain open on Sunday, et cetera.

Got it now?

I understand that you come across as a spoiled brat. If things are
not the way you expect or want then they are wrong.

It is not your secular society, it is our society. The majority of
our society disagrees with your view of religion in the public
square. This country was founded and formed by those who publicly
professed a belief in God. You don't have to like you just have to
accept it and live with it.

Like it or not those "Christian nut cases" determine a lot of what
happens in our society.



Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooosh.
I'm not talking about a profession of faith. D'uh.

Sure you are. What is the differences between someone saying God
Bless You and asking you if your have been saved?

BTW, when I am asked if I have been saved I quickly respond back
with yes I am saved, I am a Catholic. They quickly walk away.

Just what the hell are you afraid of hearing and why can such a
erudite word smith such as yourself come up with a retort that stops
the asker dead in their tracks?



You are not discussing what I am discussing.


What are you discussing. You keep referring to they and them and for
some reason you won't name them specifically.

Using descriptions what group of "Christian nut cases" are you afraid
of and why?




I've explained it three times, in simple language.


You haven't explained anything. You have alluded too, made veiled
references, and talked around the reasons but, you have not stated what
religious organization has tried to shove religion down your throat.

Where is the substance of your claim.