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On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 09:47:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


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I've seen all that crap a zillion times.

Bush lied us into war. No way out of it.

Pretty much sums it up.

I gave him another chance at it - let's see if he'll man up and say
the right thing.

It's my considered opinion that Bush was set up by the Clintons and
their main henchman in the process was George Tenant.


I suppose you think Reagan was set up by Carter, in terms of inheriting the
Pakistan nightmare.

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On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 09:47:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


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I've seen all that crap a zillion times.

Bush lied us into war. No way out of it.

Pretty much sums it up.

I gave him another chance at it - let's see if he'll man up and say
the right thing.

It's my considered opinion that Bush was set up by the Clintons and
their main henchman in the process was George Tenant.


I suppose you think Reagan was set up by Carter, in terms of inheriting
the Pakistan nightmare.

There you go again, dissing old Ronny Wrinkles, who has nothing to do with
this topic and, BTW, is a favorite of Barack Obama.

Eisboch

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On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 09:47:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


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I've seen all that crap a zillion times.

Bush lied us into war. No way out of it.

Pretty much sums it up.

I gave him another chance at it - let's see if he'll man up and say
the right thing.

It's my considered opinion that Bush was set up by the Clintons and
their main henchman in the process was George Tenant.


I suppose you think Reagan was set up by Carter, in terms of inheriting
the Pakistan nightmare.

There you go again, dissing old Ronny Wrinkles, who has nothing to do with
this topic and, BTW, is a favorite of Barack Obama.

Eisboch



Actually, I wasn't dissing Reagan at all. The implied point was that all
presidents inherit nightmares from their predecessors. You know that, and so
does Tom. Any other conclusion suggests a dependency on children's books for
knowledge of recent history.

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Actually, I wasn't dissing Reagan at all. The implied point was that all
presidents inherit nightmares from their predecessors.

Just about the most intelligent post you've made in a year.

Eisboch

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:22:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 09:47:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


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I've seen all that crap a zillion times.

Bush lied us into war. No way out of it.

Pretty much sums it up.

I gave him another chance at it - let's see if he'll man up and say
the right thing.

It's my considered opinion that Bush was set up by the Clintons and
their main henchman in the process was George Tenant.


I suppose you think Reagan was set up by Carter, in terms of inheriting
the Pakistan nightmare.

There you go again, dissing old Ronny Wrinkles, who has nothing to do with
this topic and, BTW, is a favorite of Barack Obama.

Eisboch



Actually, I wasn't dissing Reagan at all. The implied point was that all
presidents inherit nightmares from their predecessors. You know that, and so
does Tom. Any other conclusion suggests a dependency on children's books for
knowledge of recent history.


You've become a joke, and you just don't get it.
--
John H

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On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:22:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 09:47:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


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I've seen all that crap a zillion times.

Bush lied us into war. No way out of it.

Pretty much sums it up.

I gave him another chance at it - let's see if he'll man up and say
the right thing.

It's my considered opinion that Bush was set up by the Clintons and
their main henchman in the process was George Tenant.


I suppose you think Reagan was set up by Carter, in terms of inheriting
the Pakistan nightmare.

There you go again, dissing old Ronny Wrinkles, who has nothing to do
with
this topic and, BTW, is a favorite of Barack Obama.

Eisboch



Actually, I wasn't dissing Reagan at all. The implied point was that all
presidents inherit nightmares from their predecessors. You know that, and
so
does Tom. Any other conclusion suggests a dependency on children's books
for
knowledge of recent history.


You've become a joke, and you just don't get it.
--
John H


You disagree with what I just wrote? If you disagree, explain why.

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On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 09:47:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


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I've seen all that crap a zillion times.

Bush lied us into war. No way out of it.

Pretty much sums it up.

I gave him another chance at it - let's see if he'll man up and say
the right thing.

It's my considered opinion that Bush was set up by the Clintons and
their main henchman in the process was George Tenant.


I suppose you think Reagan was set up by Carter, in terms of inheriting
the Pakistan nightmare.

There you go again, dissing old Ronny Wrinkles, who has nothing to do
with
this topic and, BTW, is a favorite of Barack Obama.

Eisboch



Actually, I wasn't dissing Reagan at all. The implied point was that all
presidents inherit nightmares from their predecessors. You know that, and
so
does Tom. Any other conclusion suggests a dependency on children's books
for
knowledge of recent history.


You've become a joke, and you just don't get it.
--
John H


You disagree with what I just wrote? If you disagree, explain why.


I neither agree nor disagree. I think you're farcical. (Look it up.)

You and Harry belong in the same room. He beat you, by the way.
--
John H

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:19:31 -0500, Eisboch wrote:


There you go again, dissing old Ronny Wrinkles, who has nothing to do
with this topic and, BTW, is a favorite of Barack Obama.

Eisboch

Well, in a way, Reagan was at the start. In 1982, Reagan removed Iraq
from the list of terrorist sponsoring countries, and started arming both
Iraq and Iran during the Iraq/Iran War. Many consider the debt Iraq
accrued during that war, the reason for the invasion of Kuwait. When you
play geopolitical chess, the end game is sometimes problematic.

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On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:19:31 -0500, Eisboch wrote:


There you go again, dissing old Ronny Wrinkles, who has nothing to do
with this topic and, BTW, is a favorite of Barack Obama.

Eisboch

Well, in a way, Reagan was at the start. In 1982, Reagan removed Iraq
from the list of terrorist sponsoring countries, and started arming both
Iraq and Iran during the Iraq/Iran War. Many consider the debt Iraq
accrued during that war, the reason for the invasion of Kuwait. When you
play geopolitical chess, the end game is sometimes problematic.

Yep. And in the game of international political chess, the strategies
change for the current conditions.
The conditions in 1982 were very different than the conditions in 2002.

Eisboch

On Jan 26, 1:42*pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
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On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 09:47:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"hk" wrote in message
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I've seen all that crap a zillion times.

Bush lied us into war. No way out of it.

Pretty much sums it up.

I gave him another chance at it - let's see if he'll man up and say
the right thing.

It's my considered opinion that Bush was set up by the Clintons and
their main henchman in the process was George Tenant.

I suppose you think Reagan was set up by Carter, in terms of inheriting the
Pakistan nightmare.- Hide quoted text -

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Well, with my tin hat firmly pulled down I have always thought just
the opposite. Regan set up Carter with some kind of back room deal or
threat to Iran...