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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:30:08 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Red Herring" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:13:42 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 08:59:46 -0500, BAR wrote:

Gear that heavy is used to ensure that the fish has a better than good
chance to get in the boat. It's all about word of mouth advertising and
repeat customers. Some of the better captains have moved to Virginia
Beach for the spring and summer and in the fall they follow the fish
down to Florida.

That's a good point.

I preferred to give clients a quality all-round experience. As a
rule, I never had complaints and 90% retention rate for clients when I
was really active in the business.

You'd be surprised at how successful a trip can be without having a
stellar day fishing. I loved to get the clients involved in the whole
process - even to the point of letting them have a turn at the wheel
when conditions warranted.

Show 'em how to do stuff, different ways of rigging, sea stories (my
Mako story was a favorite told many times) - I looked at it as a total
experience, not just catching fish.

Most of us aren't messing with clients, but friends. A fishing trip is
successful anytime. It's even *more* successful if the folks catch their
limit of fish.
--
Red Herring

Catching and keeping a limit, does not make for great trip. It is the day
on the water, and the total experience. If I wanted fish to eat, I can buy
them all cleaned at the market for a lot less than I can catch them.
Probably buy them fixed into a nice dinner cheaper than I can catch them. A
former fishing partner from Harrisburg, PA was your way. If not a limit,
was not a good trip. Even if we saw river otters, and beaver in the
Sacramento Delta, the trip duccess depended on limits. Unfortunately
because of years and diabetes caused loss of a leg he no longer fishes. I
fished a lake friday. Kept one freshwater Coho Salmon as it was not going
to survive the unhooking process. Did taste good with fried potatoes.


Go back and read. Catching some fish *does* make a fishing trip more
enjoyable. I've enjoyed myself when I got skunked, but enjoyed the trip a
little more when I didn't.

If you have more fun not catching than you do catching, I'd say give up
fishing!
--
Red Herring

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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:02:25 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Red Herring" wrote in message
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:13:32 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
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No boat needed...just walk along the wide shoreline and pick them up out
of the mud, eh?

ROTF!!!!!!!


Word of the Day:

toady


Main Entry:
Pronunciation:
\?to--de-\
Function:
noun
Inflected Form(s):
plural toad·ies
Etymology:
by shortening & alteration from toadeater
Date:
1826

: one who flatters in the hope of gaining favors
--
Red Herring

Lighten up, was a funny comment.


That's dependant on your perspective. I thought not.
--
Red Herring

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"Lu Powell" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
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BAR wrote:
Red Herring wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 19:01:47 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:25:51 -0500, Red Herring
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 10:13:10 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:28:40 -0500, HK
wrote:


They're ok eating in the smaller sizes, and they are easy to catch.
For reasons I don't understand, they seem to fight hard in the
colder, New England salt waters.
Asked my Dad yesterday, and he said he's only seen a couple in all
his
Florida fishing years, and never caught one, though he never went
after them either. Agree that the bigger fish aren't as
good-tasting,
so I just might not go after them unless I release.
My dad's favorite eating fish is the sand perch. He can still stand
there for an hour filleting them to get a couple pounds of meat, and
he can hardly stand. They do taste good.
I love 'perch fingers'. Fillet's about the size of a half dollar, a
quarter
inch thick, breaded, deep fried. Takes about a hundred, but damn
they're
good.
Speckled trout - pan fried in a corn meal batter.

MMMMMMM.......

Trout are getting damn hard to find in the bay. Unless you're Harry of
course. But I think they're the best eating of the fish out there. May
not
be the same trout you're talking about. Here they're also called
weakfish.
The hook will pull out of their mouth very easily.

The problem is that the bluefish find a school of Sea
Trout/Weakfish/Speckled Trout and when you are gently reeling in the Sea
Trout a damn bluefish will see it and make a dash towards it and take a
big old bite out of the middle of the Sea Trout and you are left with a
head on the hook if you are lucky.

Sea Trout are good eating fish.



Yes, they are. Sea trout and weakfish are not the same fish.

Weakfish are also called yellow mouth trout.


Where are they called yellow mouth trout?

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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:41:20 -0800, Calif Bill wrote:


We were in Boston in the late 80's and as we crossed one of the big
bridges, people were fishing from it, using a balloon to float the bait
out there. Always wondered what they were fishing for. Since we were
driving, could not stop and ask.

It could have been stripers, but then, it could have been about
anything. Balloons are a common rig in the NE. They are cheaper than
bobbers, provide less resistance to the live bait, and will break with a
fish on, leaving just the fish to fight.

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:04:10 -0500, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:02:19 -0500, Red Herring
wrote:
Bread it, fry it, eat it. Simple!

That's what I normally eat, but it's always a fair-side cook
doing the frying.
But I'm always catching stuff that fillets out pretty small.
When I start getting the bigger, don't know exactly the best
method for slicing it up for frying.
Don't care too much for fish unless it's fried.

--Vic


It's best to avoid frying if you can. There are many ways to cook fish
without oil or, even worse, crisco.

No way.

--Vic

Asian Steamed fish. good with the ones that are the correct size for 2-4
people. In a Wok or deep skillet, a little oil, ginger and garlic. Heat
oil and sear fish on both sides and then add some wine, and a few green
onions, and cover cook until flaky.



Maybe some black bean sauce.....yum city.


Nope.

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"HK" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 12:36:33 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 13:31:33 -0500, BAR wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 09:25:22 -0800 (PST),
wrote:


I've fished for a lot of different species in a lot of different
waters, and striper fishing rates right up there with some of the
best.
Which ones? Lots of different "stripers."
There's a "striper" here in the lakes of Illinois that some call
white
bass. Caught a lot of them, but they don't bet much bigger than a
nice crappie.
Then I've heard of hybrids in the impoundments out west that are
supposed to be good fighters, and get pretty big.
Ocean stripers too. I'm confused now.
http://www.alltackle.com/striped_bass_catch.htm
Hoo-eeee! Now that looks like fun.
And tells me they call them rockfish too.
Morons who fish the Chesapeake call them rockfish and the lefties on
the West coast do the same. :)

Are they good eating?
Very good - similar to other white fish flesh taken from the ocean
like flounder, haddock, pollock, etc.

Only heard of them called Stripers (sometimes spelled Strippers) here on
the west coast. Rockfish are a completely different fish. All the fish
here are of the "Groundfish complex" as the fisheries managers call them.
Most of them are Sebastes genus. Also known as codfish here.
http://www.dfg.ca.gov/marine/fishid2007.pdf



Locals who live on and fish the Bay call them rockfish. It seems to be a
mostly Maryland-Delaware-Virginia name for striped bass. As you point it,
it is not the same critter as your west coast rockfish.

As a Yankee, I was introduced to striped bass as stripers. It wasn't until
I was in my 20's that I caught up with a stripper.

You led a sheltered life. Friend of the family and a buddy of mines dad
owned a strip club. So at about 12 years old I got to see the twin twirling
tassels.

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"Red Herring" wrote in message
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:30:08 -0800, "Calif Bill"

wrote:


"Red Herring" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:13:42 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 08:59:46 -0500, BAR wrote:

Gear that heavy is used to ensure that the fish has a better than good
chance to get in the boat. It's all about word of mouth advertising and
repeat customers. Some of the better captains have moved to Virginia
Beach for the spring and summer and in the fall they follow the fish
down to Florida.

That's a good point.

I preferred to give clients a quality all-round experience. As a
rule, I never had complaints and 90% retention rate for clients when I
was really active in the business.

You'd be surprised at how successful a trip can be without having a
stellar day fishing. I loved to get the clients involved in the whole
process - even to the point of letting them have a turn at the wheel
when conditions warranted.

Show 'em how to do stuff, different ways of rigging, sea stories (my
Mako story was a favorite told many times) - I looked at it as a total
experience, not just catching fish.

Most of us aren't messing with clients, but friends. A fishing trip is
successful anytime. It's even *more* successful if the folks catch their
limit of fish.
--
Red Herring

Catching and keeping a limit, does not make for great trip. It is the day
on the water, and the total experience. If I wanted fish to eat, I can
buy
them all cleaned at the market for a lot less than I can catch them.
Probably buy them fixed into a nice dinner cheaper than I can catch them.
A
former fishing partner from Harrisburg, PA was your way. If not a limit,
was not a good trip. Even if we saw river otters, and beaver in the
Sacramento Delta, the trip duccess depended on limits. Unfortunately
because of years and diabetes caused loss of a leg he no longer fishes. I
fished a lake friday. Kept one freshwater Coho Salmon as it was not going
to survive the unhooking process. Did taste good with fried potatoes.


Go back and read. Catching some fish *does* make a fishing trip more
enjoyable. I've enjoyed myself when I got skunked, but enjoyed the trip a
little more when I didn't.

If you have more fun not catching than you do catching, I'd say give up
fishing!
--
Red Herring

I disagree. You said catch a limit. That infers you took home a limit.

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wrote in message
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On Jan 20, 5:22 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:37:53 -0800, "Calif Bill"

wrote:

No Bluefish out here. You will get salmon in the feeding frenzy at times.
Which is always a nice suprize.

Really - that's very cool.

From what I have seen on video, probably a similar experience from
bluefish boil, to salmon frenzy.. The fish seem to have a similar cut,
probably act similar on the line, except for the different
environments..

Not really. Certain times of the year the anchovie shools will be shallow
and the stripers will pin them against the surf line and since the salmon
are also in the area and love anchovies also, they dine also. I do not
think I have ever seen an open water striper feeding frenzy at the surface.

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"HK" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Jan 20, 2:44 pm, wrote:
On Jan 20, 2:37 pm, Vic Smith wrote:





On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:05:31 -0800 (PST),
wrote:
Yeah, you've bought into the idiotic notion that catfish are somehow
not clean. Must be hell to not be able to read and learn on your
own.
Here, learn something, or at least try:
Habitat - Most common in big rivers and streams. Prefers some
current,
and deep water with sand, gravel or rubble bottoms. Channel catfish
also inhabit lakes, reservoirs and ponds.
Feeding Habits - Feeds primarily at night using taste buds in the
sensitive barbels and throughout the skin to locate prey. Although
they normally feed on the bottom, channels also will feed at the
surface and at mid-depth. Major foods are aquatic insects, crayfish,
mollusks, crustaceans and fishes. Small channels consume
invertebrates, but larger ones may eat fish. Contrary to popular
belief, carrion is not their normal food.
Eating Quality - Considered one of the best-eating freshwater fish.
The meat is white, tender and sweet when taken from clean water.
Mt uncle was a caterfisherman here before he moved to Florida.
He could make a fishhead talk, blink and curl it's lip like Elvis.
I really miss him. I ate a lot of catfish. Uncle would bring a
couple hundred pounds of catfish and carp he had caught during the
week and kept caged into a black Chicago neighborhood, where
he would barter the smoking of what he wanted to eat and some beer
money for the remainder. I'm sure he ate some carp, but it was never
a big deal. Can't say i ever had it.
People who grew up or lived through hard times wouldn't get all
high-brow about disdaining carp.
OTOH, with pollution it doesn't hurt to be aware of what some fish
might be harboring, like mercury, other heavy metals PCB's, etc.
I don't trust that salmon my wife brings home sometimes from the
store, and told her not to buy it anymore. It don't taste right.
Pretty much off fish unless I catch it myself from waters I deem
acceptable. A neighbor insisted I take a big Coho he caught on Lake
Michigan about 15 years ago, even when I told him flat out I'd bury
it
in the garden. He didn't want the damn thing either, and he didn't
have a garden.
--Vic- Hide quoted text -
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People like JimH will eat fish out of the great lakes that are so
chemical laden that if you light a match next to one, it will ignite,
but they won't eat those nasty catfish~!- Hide quoted text -

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Loogie you jerk! Ten frekin' minutes to gametime and I got to go to
Stop and **** and get some catfish, make some deep fried poppers..
yum...

Gametime? Cripes, am I missing yet another StuporBowel?

Nope, it's not until primary election day.

Is Y.A. Tittle starting?

Nope, he is selling insurance.

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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:19:07 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:




We used to catch catfish in Clear Lake, CA by hand. They would spawn in the
tires used a dock bumpers. The Sacramento Delta has millions of tasty
catfish. White cats. about 3/4#. We get some larger yellow cats, but they
just do not taste that good. Mostly we catch them on Freshwater clams and
sardines.

Was surprised to read in a local paper down there once, maybe '88,
that a local caught a catfish of about 100 pounds. Can't remember
exactly what lake it was unless I'm reminded, but it was real close to
LA. Maybe it'll come to me.

--Vic

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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 23:55:01 -0000, wrote:

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:41:20 -0800, Calif Bill wrote:


We were in Boston in the late 80's and as we crossed one of the big
bridges, people were fishing from it, using a balloon to float the bait
out there. Always wondered what they were fishing for. Since we were
driving, could not stop and ask.

It could have been stripers, but then, it could have been about
anything. Balloons are a common rig in the NE. They are cheaper than
bobbers, provide less resistance to the live bait, and will break with a
fish on, leaving just the fish to fight.

It was stripers - I know where they were fishing.

You are right though - it's a pretty common technique for floating or
lining live bait.

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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:22:30 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:37:53 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


No Bluefish out here. You will get salmon in the feeding frenzy at times.
Which is always a nice suprize.

Really - that's very cool.

Read once that in your area the salmon spawn was treated as a time to
pitchfork them out of the water to use as cattle feed. Salmon were
considered trash fish. Guess times have changed. Wait. No guessing
about it.

--Vic

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JimH wrote:
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===========

ROTF! And Booger plans a fishing trip at the Islands each year.......those
Islands are on Lake Erie.

What a maroon!

BTW: One only needs to look at what happened to Booger to see the results
of eating catfish that was not pond raised.

JimH,
I thought you preferred to disagree without being disagreeable?

Will the Dow Slide Below 12000 this month...or next?
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
...

Crude oil slipped 71 cents, settling at $90.13 a barrel, in trading on
the New York Mercantile Exchange. The yield on the 10-year Treasury note,
which moves opposite to its price, ticked down slightly.
At least some of the so-called "investors" are helping oil prices drop.

Look at it as a short term thing.

$125 by next summer. Not from demand, but a sliding buck.

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JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:41:20 -0800, Calif Bill wrote:


We were in Boston in the late 80's and as we crossed one of the big
bridges, people were fishing from it, using a balloon to float the bait
out there. Always wondered what they were fishing for. Since we were
driving, could not stop and ask.
It could have been stripers, but then, it could have been about anything.
Balloons are a common rig in the NE. They are cheaper than bobbers,
provide less resistance to the live bait, and will break with a fish on,
leaving just the fish to fight.

They're also common on Lake Okeechobee in Florida, when you are using live
shiners to catch largemouth bass. First time we went there, we hired a
guide, who introduced us to this technique. The balloons were inflated
just enough to float while the shiner swam.

But why not just a simple bobber?




You know, I asked a question something like that. Damned if I remember
the answer, but there was one.

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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 16:10:14 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Red Herring" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:30:08 -0800, "Calif Bill"

wrote:


"Red Herring" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:13:42 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 08:59:46 -0500, BAR wrote:

Gear that heavy is used to ensure that the fish has a better than good
chance to get in the boat. It's all about word of mouth advertising and
repeat customers. Some of the better captains have moved to Virginia
Beach for the spring and summer and in the fall they follow the fish
down to Florida.

That's a good point.

I preferred to give clients a quality all-round experience. As a
rule, I never had complaints and 90% retention rate for clients when I
was really active in the business.

You'd be surprised at how successful a trip can be without having a
stellar day fishing. I loved to get the clients involved in the whole
process - even to the point of letting them have a turn at the wheel
when conditions warranted.

Show 'em how to do stuff, different ways of rigging, sea stories (my
Mako story was a favorite told many times) - I looked at it as a total
experience, not just catching fish.

Most of us aren't messing with clients, but friends. A fishing trip is
successful anytime. It's even *more* successful if the folks catch their
limit of fish.
--
Red Herring

Catching and keeping a limit, does not make for great trip. It is the day
on the water, and the total experience. If I wanted fish to eat, I can
buy
them all cleaned at the market for a lot less than I can catch them.
Probably buy them fixed into a nice dinner cheaper than I can catch them.
A
former fishing partner from Harrisburg, PA was your way. If not a limit,
was not a good trip. Even if we saw river otters, and beaver in the
Sacramento Delta, the trip duccess depended on limits. Unfortunately
because of years and diabetes caused loss of a leg he no longer fishes. I
fished a lake friday. Kept one freshwater Coho Salmon as it was not going
to survive the unhooking process. Did taste good with fried potatoes.


Go back and read. Catching some fish *does* make a fishing trip more
enjoyable. I've enjoyed myself when I got skunked, but enjoyed the trip a
little more when I didn't.

If you have more fun not catching than you do catching, I'd say give up
fishing!
--
Red Herring

I disagree. You said catch a limit. That infers you took home a limit.


The limit is two each. Yes, it's more fun going home with a limit than it
is with none or one. Catching a fish is fun, and catching two is more fun.

I don't know what you're disagreeing with, but that's OK. If you enjoy
catching nothing more than catching two, then have at it.
--
Red Herring

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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 23:55:01 -0000, wrote:

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:41:20 -0800, Calif Bill wrote:


We were in Boston in the late 80's and as we crossed one of the big
bridges, people were fishing from it, using a balloon to float the bait
out there. Always wondered what they were fishing for. Since we were
driving, could not stop and ask.

It could have been stripers, but then, it could have been about
anything. Balloons are a common rig in the NE. They are cheaper than
bobbers, provide less resistance to the live bait, and will break with a
fish on, leaving just the fish to fight.

I've 'live lined' for stripers with a small live spot or perch as bait and
a balloon tied to the line so the fish couldn't go to the bottom. Works
well. When there's a predator in the area, the bait fish will have the
balloon all over the place.
--
Red Herring

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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 20:41:00 -0500, HK wrote:

JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:41:20 -0800, Calif Bill wrote:


We were in Boston in the late 80's and as we crossed one of the big
bridges, people were fishing from it, using a balloon to float the bait
out there. Always wondered what they were fishing for. Since we were
driving, could not stop and ask.
It could have been stripers, but then, it could have been about anything.
Balloons are a common rig in the NE. They are cheaper than bobbers,
provide less resistance to the live bait, and will break with a fish on,
leaving just the fish to fight.

They're also common on Lake Okeechobee in Florida, when you are using live
shiners to catch largemouth bass. First time we went there, we hired a
guide, who introduced us to this technique. The balloons were inflated
just enough to float while the shiner swam.

But why not just a simple bobber?




You know, I asked a question something like that. Damned if I remember
the answer, but there was one.

A live perch or spot is too big for a little bobber. Balloons are light and
will keep the fish close to the surface (6' or so).
--
Red Herring

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"Red Herring" wrote in message
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 16:10:14 -0800, "Calif Bill"

wrote:


"Red Herring" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:30:08 -0800, "Calif Bill"

wrote:


"Red Herring" wrote in message
m...
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:13:42 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 08:59:46 -0500, BAR wrote:

Gear that heavy is used to ensure that the fish has a better than
good
chance to get in the boat. It's all about word of mouth advertising
and
repeat customers. Some of the better captains have moved to Virginia
Beach for the spring and summer and in the fall they follow the fish
down to Florida.

That's a good point.

I preferred to give clients a quality all-round experience. As a
rule, I never had complaints and 90% retention rate for clients when I
was really active in the business.

You'd be surprised at how successful a trip can be without having a
stellar day fishing. I loved to get the clients involved in the whole
process - even to the point of letting them have a turn at the wheel
when conditions warranted.

Show 'em how to do stuff, different ways of rigging, sea stories (my
Mako story was a favorite told many times) - I looked at it as a total
experience, not just catching fish.

Most of us aren't messing with clients, but friends. A fishing trip is
successful anytime. It's even *more* successful if the folks catch
their
limit of fish.
--
Red Herring

Catching and keeping a limit, does not make for great trip. It is the
day
on the water, and the total experience. If I wanted fish to eat, I can
buy
them all cleaned at the market for a lot less than I can catch them.
Probably buy them fixed into a nice dinner cheaper than I can catch
them.
A
former fishing partner from Harrisburg, PA was your way. If not a
limit,
was not a good trip. Even if we saw river otters, and beaver in the
Sacramento Delta, the trip duccess depended on limits. Unfortunately
because of years and diabetes caused loss of a leg he no longer fishes.
I
fished a lake friday. Kept one freshwater Coho Salmon as it was not
going
to survive the unhooking process. Did taste good with fried potatoes.


Go back and read. Catching some fish *does* make a fishing trip more
enjoyable. I've enjoyed myself when I got skunked, but enjoyed the trip
a
little more when I didn't.

If you have more fun not catching than you do catching, I'd say give up
fishing!
--
Red Herring

I disagree. You said catch a limit. That infers you took home a limit.


The limit is two each. Yes, it's more fun going home with a limit than it
is with none or one. Catching a fish is fun, and catching two is more fun.

I don't know what you're disagreeing with, but that's OK. If you enjoy
catching nothing more than catching two, then have at it.
--
Red Herring

I catch lot more than 2 but rarely bring home one when fishing stripers.

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"Red Herring" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 23:55:01 -0000, wrote:

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:41:20 -0800, Calif Bill wrote:


We were in Boston in the late 80's and as we crossed one of the big
bridges, people were fishing from it, using a balloon to float the bait
out there. Always wondered what they were fishing for. Since we were
driving, could not stop and ask.

It could have been stripers, but then, it could have been about
anything. Balloons are a common rig in the NE. They are cheaper than
bobbers, provide less resistance to the live bait, and will break with a
fish on, leaving just the fish to fight.

I've 'live lined' for stripers with a small live spot or perch as bait and
a balloon tied to the line so the fish couldn't go to the bottom. Works
well. When there's a predator in the area, the bait fish will have the
balloon all over the place.
--
Red Herring

Bluegills in the Sac Delta are really deadly.

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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 18:03:54 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Red Herring" wrote in message
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 16:10:14 -0800, "Calif Bill"

wrote:


"Red Herring" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:30:08 -0800, "Calif Bill"

wrote:


"Red Herring" wrote in message
om...
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:13:42 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 08:59:46 -0500, BAR wrote:

Gear that heavy is used to ensure that the fish has a better than
good
chance to get in the boat. It's all about word of mouth advertising
and
repeat customers. Some of the better captains have moved to Virginia
Beach for the spring and summer and in the fall they follow the fish
down to Florida.

That's a good point.

I preferred to give clients a quality all-round experience. As a
rule, I never had complaints and 90% retention rate for clients when I
was really active in the business.

You'd be surprised at how successful a trip can be without having a
stellar day fishing. I loved to get the clients involved in the whole
process - even to the point of letting them have a turn at the wheel
when conditions warranted.

Show 'em how to do stuff, different ways of rigging, sea stories (my
Mako story was a favorite told many times) - I looked at it as a total
experience, not just catching fish.

Most of us aren't messing with clients, but friends. A fishing trip is
successful anytime. It's even *more* successful if the folks catch
their
limit of fish.
--
Red Herring

Catching and keeping a limit, does not make for great trip. It is the
day
on the water, and the total experience. If I wanted fish to eat, I can
buy
them all cleaned at the market for a lot less than I can catch them.
Probably buy them fixed into a nice dinner cheaper than I can catch
them.
A
former fishing partner from Harrisburg, PA was your way. If not a
limit,
was not a good trip. Even if we saw river otters, and beaver in the
Sacramento Delta, the trip duccess depended on limits. Unfortunately
because of years and diabetes caused loss of a leg he no longer fishes.
I
fished a lake friday. Kept one freshwater Coho Salmon as it was not
going
to survive the unhooking process. Did taste good with fried potatoes.


Go back and read. Catching some fish *does* make a fishing trip more
enjoyable. I've enjoyed myself when I got skunked, but enjoyed the trip
a
little more when I didn't.

If you have more fun not catching than you do catching, I'd say give up
fishing!
--
Red Herring

I disagree. You said catch a limit. That infers you took home a limit.


The limit is two each. Yes, it's more fun going home with a limit than it
is with none or one. Catching a fish is fun, and catching two is more fun.

I don't know what you're disagreeing with, but that's OK. If you enjoy
catching nothing more than catching two, then have at it.
--
Red Herring

I catch lot more than 2 but rarely bring home one when fishing stripers.


Once I've caught the limit, I go home. I don't believe in catching just to
be catching, or culling as some do.
--
Red Herring

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On Jan 20, 4:00*pm, "JimH" wrote:
wrote in message

...



People like JimH will eat fish out of the great lakes that are so
chemical laden that if you light a match next to one, it will ignite,
but they won't eat those nasty catfish~!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Loogie you jerk! Ten frekin' minutes to gametime and I got to go to
Stop and **** and get some catfish, make some deep fried poppers..
yum...

===========

ROTF! * And Booger plans a fishing trip at the Islands each year.......those
Islands are on Lake Erie.

Where'd you get that idea, Jim? The same place you got the idea that
Reggie owns a houseboat?

What a maroon!

BTW: *One only needs to look at what happened to Booger to see the results
of eating catfish that was not pond raised.

And what is that, doctor?

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On Jan 20, 3:34*pm, wrote:
On Jan 20, 3:29*pm, wrote:





On Jan 20, 2:50*pm, wrote:

On Jan 20, 2:05*pm, wrote:

On Jan 20, 1:21*pm, "JimH" wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message

.. .

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 12:18:17 -0500, BAR wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 07:53:55 -0800 (PST), wrote:

And smallmouth, largemouth, spotted, white and hybrid bass. Along with
trout, bluegill, crappie, huge catfish, drum, etc.

I love cat fishing. *Around these parts, the cats tend to be channel
cats on the small side - say, less than ten pounds or so. *We also
have horned pout which can run up to 3/4 pounds sometimes.

Spent my high school years fishing the Potomac off of Ft. Belvior for
catfish. We would fish for channel cats and what we called mud cats. Use
worms to catch perch, back hook the perch to catch the cats. We were
fishing for that elusive 25 pounder. *And, we allways had a case of our
favorite beverage along to sip while waiting for the poles to be pulled
over.

I was fishing Lake Marion last summer with a guide out of Santee -
great guy, real knowledgable, put me on a channel cat that was 30
pounds easy. *Used a commercial blood bait - we must have caught 10
fish that day, not one under 20 pounds.

Good eatin' too.

You folks have carp down there?

We have lots of Carp in the Potomac and Anacostia rivers. Not much for a
fight. People actually eat the Carp even after knowing what garbage the
Carp eat.

A Texan I know told me that some Texas cattle ranches have big "Carp
Cook-outs" during the spawn.
These are the ones with extensive irrigation ditches where the carp
can grow pretty big.
During the spawn the cowboys "round up" the carp by whooping and
hollerin' them down the canals, closing canal gates as they go.
When they get them to no-way-out end pool they wade in and pitchfork
the carp out into truck beds and bring them to the ranch house.
The way they cook them is pretty interesting. *Build a big bonfire of
brush and mesquite wood on soft earth. *When the fire is down to
embers bobcat approximately 1 foot of hot earth and embers aside, and
place the fish in the depression, then bobcat the earth and embers
back over the fish. *Build another fire over it that'll burn a couple
hours.
Now before the carp are tossed into the pit that are encased in cow
manure. *I think this guy - his name was Rowdy - said the name of
the carp dish is called "Carapaced Carp."
While the second fire is burning everybody's drinking iced Bud and
doing the dosie-doe to the sounds of a local square-dance band.
When it's time to eat the bobcat moves the fire off the fish and
everybody sits down to feast.
Rowdy said when that firepit hardened dung crust is cracked off you
can see the clean white carp meat shining in the sun, and steaming.
I asked him how the carp tasted, and he looked at me like I was crazy,
and says,
"Hell, boy, we throw that damn carp away. *It's the crust that's the
good eatin."

--Vic

Carp??? *No thanks. *And no thank on the bottom feeding catfish unless they
are farm pond raised.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, you've bought into the idiotic notion that catfish are somehow
not clean. Must be hell to not be able to read and learn on your own..
Here, learn something, or at least try:

Habitat - Most common in big rivers and streams. Prefers some current,
and deep water with sand, gravel or rubble bottoms. Channel catfish
also inhabit lakes, reservoirs and ponds.

Feeding Habits - Feeds primarily at night using taste buds in the
sensitive barbels and throughout the skin to locate prey. Although
they normally feed on the bottom, channels also will feed at the
surface and at mid-depth. Major foods are aquatic insects, crayfish,
mollusks, crustaceans and fishes. Small channels consume
invertebrates, but larger ones may eat fish. Contrary to popular
belief, carrion is not their normal food.

Eating Quality - Considered one of the best-eating freshwater fish.
The meat is white, tender and sweet when taken from clean water.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Years ago I used to go to north Hartford and stop in at this little
catfish and chicken joint. It was greasy but the deep fried catfish
was well worth the risk of parking there...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

If you ever find yourself on I-75 in the vicinity of Live Oak, FL not
far from the GA/FL border, you'll see bright colored billboards for
Sheffield's Catfish House. It's a run down looking truckstop with the
best catfish I've ever tasted!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

My brother (not by blood) is building a house on some land he got that
is a couple of miles off the exit ramp at route 10 and 75, think he is
in Live Oaks, or real near it...- Hide quoted text -

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Tell him to check it out, he'll think it's a dump, but every single
person I've told to stop there has thanked me afterward.

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On Jan 20, 3:34 pm, wrote:

My brother (not by blood) is building a house on some land he got that
is a couple of miles off the exit ramp at route 10 and 75, think he is
in Live Oaks, or real near it...- Hide quoted text -


It's a very small town and a pretty much "isolated" area, but it is near
the Suwanee River. Used to drive by the road signs to Live Oak on my way
to and from Tallahassee. I think there was a truck stop on I-10 near
Live Oak. Maybe it was a burger joint.

I assume the name of the town comes from the "evergreen" oaks found
throughout Northern Florida (and much more of the southeast). It's a
nice wood, strong, but the damned trees are fragile and lose limbs easily.

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On Jan 21, 11:12*am, harry krause wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 20, 4:00 pm, "JimH" wrote:
wrote in message

...

People like JimH will eat fish out of the great lakes that are so
chemical laden that if you light a match next to one, it will ignite,
but they won't eat those nasty catfish~!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Loogie you jerk! Ten frekin' minutes to gametime and I got to go to
Stop and **** and get some catfish, make some deep fried poppers..
yum...

===========

ROTF! * And Booger plans a fishing trip at the Islands each year........those
Islands are on Lake Erie.

Where'd you get that idea, Jim? The same place you got the idea that
Reggie owns a houseboat?
What a maroon!

BTW: *One only needs to look at what happened to Booger to see the results
of eating catfish that was not pond raised.

And what is that, docto

I wasn't following your illness closely, but I vaguely recall you
poisoned yourself with skunky homemade beer. Maybe not.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

If that's what's in your head, then you need help. Please show where I
said anything of the sort. I can end this easily. At least I didn't
lie about a Zimmerman like lobster boat ownership.

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On Jan 21, 10:55*am, harry krause wrote:
On Jan 20, 3:34 pm, wrote:
My brother (not by blood) is building a house on some land he got that
is a couple of miles off the exit ramp at route 10 and 75, think he is
in Live Oaks, or real near it...- Hide quoted text -

It's a very small town and a pretty much "isolated" area, but it is near
the Suwanee River. Used to drive by the road signs to Live Oak on my way
to and from Tallahassee. I think there was a truck stop on I-10 near
Live Oak. Maybe it was a burger joint.

I assume the name of the town comes from the "evergreen" oaks found
throughout Northern Florida (and much more of the southeast). It's a
nice wood, strong, but the damned trees are fragile and lose limbs easily.

Or maybe, just maybe, it's named after the live oaks that grow the

http://www.sfrc.ufl.edu/4h/Live_oak/liveoak.htm

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On Jan 21, 11:12*am, harry krause wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 20, 4:00 pm, "JimH" wrote:
wrote in message

...

People like JimH will eat fish out of the great lakes that are so
chemical laden that if you light a match next to one, it will ignite,
but they won't eat those nasty catfish~!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Loogie you jerk! Ten frekin' minutes to gametime and I got to go to
Stop and **** and get some catfish, make some deep fried poppers..
yum...

===========

ROTF! * And Booger plans a fishing trip at the Islands each year........those
Islands are on Lake Erie.

Where'd you get that idea, Jim? The same place you got the idea that
Reggie owns a houseboat?
What a maroon!

BTW: *One only needs to look at what happened to Booger to see the results
of eating catfish that was not pond raised.

And what is that, docto

I wasn't following your illness closely, but I vaguely recall you
poisoned yourself with skunky homemade beer. Maybe not.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Oh, and nice reach around, I'll bet JimH enjoyed it!

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wrote:
On Jan 21, 10:55 am, harry krause wrote:
On Jan 20, 3:34 pm, wrote:
My brother (not by blood) is building a house on some land he got that
is a couple of miles off the exit ramp at route 10 and 75, think he is
in Live Oaks, or real near it...- Hide quoted text -
It's a very small town and a pretty much "isolated" area, but it is near
the Suwanee River. Used to drive by the road signs to Live Oak on my way
to and from Tallahassee. I think there was a truck stop on I-10 near
Live Oak. Maybe it was a burger joint.

I assume the name of the town comes from the "evergreen" oaks found
throughout Northern Florida (and much more of the southeast). It's a
nice wood, strong, but the damned trees are fragile and lose limbs easily.

Or maybe, just maybe, it's named after the live oaks that grow the

http://www.sfrc.ufl.edu/4h/Live_oak/liveoak.htm



What do you think the evergreen oaks are, village idiot?

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More political cut and paste from Harry..
 

harry krause wrote:

On Jan 20, 3:34 pm, wrote:

My brother (not by blood) is building a house on some land he got that
is a couple of miles off the exit ramp at route 10 and 75, think he is
in Live Oaks, or real near it...- Hide quoted text -


It's a very small town and a pretty much "isolated" area, but it is near
the Suwanee River. Used to drive by the road signs to Live Oak on my way
to and from Tallahassee. I think there was a truck stop on I-10 near
Live Oak. Maybe it was a burger joint.

I assume the name of the town comes from the "evergreen" oaks found
throughout Northern Florida (and much more of the southeast). It's a
nice wood, strong, but the damned trees are fragile and lose limbs easily.

I-10, I assume the name comes for a shortening of Interstate 10, in
Florida and Georgia they use concrete for the driving surface. In
Georgia they normally use granite gravel as the base, and then use a
granite dust called Crush and Run to smooth out the base before pouring
the concrete. In Florida, they often use a limestone/shell crush as the
base.

I find the concrete doesn't have the problem of pot holes you often see
with asphalt.

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On Jan 21, 11:32*am, harry krause wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 21, 11:12 am, harry krause wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 20, 4:00 pm, "JimH" wrote:
wrote in message
....
People like JimH will eat fish out of the great lakes that are so
chemical laden that if you light a match next to one, it will ignite,
but they won't eat those nasty catfish~!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Loogie you jerk! Ten frekin' minutes to gametime and I got to go to
Stop and **** and get some catfish, make some deep fried poppers..
yum...
===========
ROTF! * And Booger plans a fishing trip at the Islands each year........those
Islands are on Lake Erie.
Where'd you get that idea, Jim? The same place you got the idea that
Reggie owns a houseboat?
What a maroon!
BTW: *One only needs to look at what happened to Booger to see the results
of eating catfish that was not pond raised.
And what is that, docto
I wasn't following your illness closely, but I vaguely recall you
poisoned yourself with skunky homemade beer. Maybe not.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

If that's what's in your head, then you need help. Please show where I
said anything of the sort. I can end this easily. At least I didn't
lie about a Zimmerman like lobster boat ownership.

"Showing" what you posted would require reading through your past posts.
No thanks.

It doesn't matter to me how you poisoned yourself. I don't give a damn.
Clear enough?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

That's odd. If you don't give a damn, why did you bring it up? Oh, I
know, just like JimH, when you are proven to be a liar, you'll stoop
as low as you can go.........

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On Jan 21, 11:30*am, harry krause wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 21, 10:55 am, harry krause wrote:
On Jan 20, 3:34 pm, wrote:
My brother (not by blood) is building a house on some land he got that
is a couple of miles off the exit ramp at route 10 and 75, think he is
in Live Oaks, or real near it...- Hide quoted text -
It's a very small town and a pretty much "isolated" area, but it is near
the Suwanee River. Used to drive by the road signs to Live Oak on my way
to and from Tallahassee. I think there was a truck stop on I-10 near
Live Oak. Maybe it was a burger joint.

I assume the name of the town comes from the "evergreen" oaks found
throughout Northern Florida (and much more of the southeast). It's a
nice wood, strong, but the damned trees are fragile and lose limbs easily.

Or maybe, just maybe, it's named after the live oaks that grow the

http://www.sfrc.ufl.edu/4h/Live_oak/liveoak.htm

What do you think the evergreen oaks are, village idiot?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Again, your childish low life insults show you don't know what in hell
you are talking about, Live Oaks aren't in any way or form
"evergreen". They are deciduous.

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On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 11:32:02 -0500, harry krause
wrote:

wrote:
On Jan 21, 11:12 am, harry krause wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 20, 4:00 pm, "JimH" wrote:
wrote in message
...
People like JimH will eat fish out of the great lakes that are so
chemical laden that if you light a match next to one, it will ignite,
but they won't eat those nasty catfish~!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Loogie you jerk! Ten frekin' minutes to gametime and I got to go to
Stop and **** and get some catfish, make some deep fried poppers..
yum...
===========
ROTF! And Booger plans a fishing trip at the Islands each year.......those
Islands are on Lake Erie.
Where'd you get that idea, Jim? The same place you got the idea that
Reggie owns a houseboat?
What a maroon!
BTW: One only needs to look at what happened to Booger to see the results
of eating catfish that was not pond raised.
And what is that, docto
I wasn't following your illness closely, but I vaguely recall you
poisoned yourself with skunky homemade beer. Maybe not.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

If that's what's in your head, then you need help. Please show where I
said anything of the sort. I can end this easily. At least I didn't
lie about a Zimmerman like lobster boat ownership.


"Showing" what you posted would require reading through your past posts.
No thanks.

It doesn't matter to me how you poisoned yourself. I don't give a damn.
Clear enough?



Harry, you say, "It doesn't matter to me how you poisoned yourself. I don't
give a damn. Clear enough?" Yet, you've brought it up three times in the
past hour. Clear enough?

But, some would say that was 'very cool'!
--
Red Herring

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JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
. ..
hk wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 21, 11:30 am, harry krause wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 21, 10:55 am, harry krause wrote:
On Jan 20, 3:34 pm, wrote:
My brother (not by blood) is building a house on some land he got
that
is a couple of miles off the exit ramp at route 10 and 75, think he
is
in Live Oaks, or real near it...- Hide quoted text -
It's a very small town and a pretty much "isolated" area, but it is
near
the Suwanee River. Used to drive by the road signs to Live Oak on my
way
to and from Tallahassee. I think there was a truck stop on I-10 near
Live Oak. Maybe it was a burger joint.
I assume the name of the town comes from the "evergreen" oaks found
throughout Northern Florida (and much more of the southeast). It's a
nice wood, strong, but the damned trees are fragile and lose limbs
easily.
Or maybe, just maybe, it's named after the live oaks that grow the
http://www.sfrc.ufl.edu/4h/Live_oak/liveoak.htm
What do you think the evergreen oaks are, village idiot?- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

Again, your childish low life insults show you don't know what in hell
you are talking about, Live Oaks aren't in any way or form
"evergreen". They are deciduous.

D'oh

From wiki:
Harry,
If it wasn't for Google, you wouldn't know anything at all.


Reggie,
If Harry were not here you would not have anything to post to this NG
anymore. Every post of yours today was in response to something he said or
had his name in it. Your intentions here are obvious. You really do not
to get a life.



I wish you would stop following me around with your silly responses to
my posts. If it wasn't for you making insults in here to me and
everyone else, you would not say anything at all. Your intentions are
obvious and you really do "need" to get a life.

So far you have told Eisboch, that he needs to get a life and stop
"bragging about his possessions", that Harry his sick and needs to get
professional help, that Don White is a mama's boy who never grew up and
still lives with his mother, that SWS is an asshole who is always right
and thinks he knews everything, that Chuck is having a mental breakdown
and needs to take another vacation ..... and the list goes on and on. I
might tweak Harry because he is so easy, but you show no preferences,
you have never meet a person you didn't think was an asshole.

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wrote:
On Jan 21, 1:18 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 21, 11:30 am, harry krause wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 21, 10:55 am, harry krause wrote:
On Jan 20, 3:34 pm, wrote:
My brother (not by blood) is building a house on some land he got that
is a couple of miles off the exit ramp at route 10 and 75, think he is
in Live Oaks, or real near it...- Hide quoted text -
It's a very small town and a pretty much "isolated" area, but it is near
the Suwanee River. Used to drive by the road signs to Live Oak on my way
to and from Tallahassee. I think there was a truck stop on I-10 near
Live Oak. Maybe it was a burger joint.
I assume the name of the town comes from the "evergreen" oaks found
throughout Northern Florida (and much more of the southeast). It's a
nice wood, strong, but the damned trees are fragile and lose limbs easily.
Or maybe, just maybe, it's named after the live oaks that grow the
http://www.sfrc.ufl.edu/4h/Live_oak/liveoak.htm
What do you think the evergreen oaks are, village idiot?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Again, your childish low life insults show you don't know what in hell
you are talking about, Live Oaks aren't in any way or form
"evergreen". They are deciduous.
D'oh

From wiki:

Live oak or evergreen oak is a general term for a number of unrelated
oaks in several different sections of the genus Quercus that happen to
share the character of *evergreen* foliage.

The name live oak comes from the fact that *evergreen oaks* are still
green and "live" in winter, when other oaks are dormant, leafless and
"dead"-looking. The name is used mainly in North America, where
evergreen oaks are widespread in warmer areas, along the Atlantic coast
from Virginia to Florida, west along the Gulf Coast to Texas and across
the southwest to California and southwest Oregon.

Evergreen oak species are also common in the warmer parts of Europe and
Asia, and are included in this list for the sake of completeness. These
species, although not having "live" in their common names in their
countries of origin, are colloquially called live oaks when cultivated
in North America.

When the term live oak is used in a specific rather than general sense,
it most commonly refers to the Southern live oak (the first species so
named), but can often refer to other species regionally.

The live oak is the official state tree of Georgia.

In Texas, a small grove of live oaks (Texas live oak or Southern live
oak) is known as a mott.

And now here is the boating reference for our New England boatbuilding
friend, which is why I brought up "live oak" in the first place.

Live oak was widely used in early American shipbuilding; the remarkable
resilience of the live oak planking versus its European counterpart in
part made the early American frigates so feared by enemy sailors. The
live oak of USS Constitution repelled the shot of HMS Guerriere so
effectively that one of her sailors was heard to shout, "Huzzah! Her
sides are made of iron!" The ship was given the nickname, Old Ironsides.
Live oak lumber is rarely used for furniture due to warping and twisting
while drying. It is used in shipbuilding and tool handles for its
strength, energy absorption, and density. Dry southern live oak lumber
has a specific gravity of 0.88, the highest of any North American hardwood.

You're a fourth-rate intellect, Loogy. You ought to pick fights with
your peers.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I know you have to try to make yourself as low as JimH with your
childish insults, but the fact remains that a Live Oak is deciduous.
There are thousands of references to just that. Try it.

No one claimed evergreen oaks didn't shed their leaves, doofus. Lots of
people "in da Souf" refer to live oaks as evergreen oaks, and so does
WIKI, probably the only reference you can reference.

As I suggested, you need to find a few fourth-rate intellects in here
for playmates. Try Wally, Dan, Herring, Bert, et cetera.

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JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
. ..
hk wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 21, 11:30 am, harry krause wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 21, 10:55 am, harry krause wrote:
On Jan 20, 3:34 pm, wrote:
My brother (not by blood) is building a house on some land he got
that
is a couple of miles off the exit ramp at route 10 and 75, think he
is
in Live Oaks, or real near it...- Hide quoted text -
It's a very small town and a pretty much "isolated" area, but it is
near
the Suwanee River. Used to drive by the road signs to Live Oak on my
way
to and from Tallahassee. I think there was a truck stop on I-10 near
Live Oak. Maybe it was a burger joint.
I assume the name of the town comes from the "evergreen" oaks found
throughout Northern Florida (and much more of the southeast). It's a
nice wood, strong, but the damned trees are fragile and lose limbs
easily.
Or maybe, just maybe, it's named after the live oaks that grow the
http://www.sfrc.ufl.edu/4h/Live_oak/liveoak.htm
What do you think the evergreen oaks are, village idiot?- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

Again, your childish low life insults show you don't know what in hell
you are talking about, Live Oaks aren't in any way or form
"evergreen". They are deciduous.

D'oh

From wiki:
Harry,
If it wasn't for Google, you wouldn't know anything at all.


Reggie,
If Harry were not here you would not have anything to post to this NG
anymore. Every post of yours today was in response to something he said or
had his name in it. Your intentions here are obvious. You really do not
to get a life.



When I actually looked at the little Reggie-crap's posts, I noticed that
at least 90% of them were his petty insults aimed at me or other users
he does not like. Most of the rest were inanities. He tries to couch his
insults so they don't look like insults, but that only fools the idiots
here.

The classic Reggie's are when he insults the lives and possessions of
others and very carefully doesn't post anything of sigificance about his
own life or possessions so he can escape any sort of criticism. He's a
classic troll.

More political cut and paste from Harry..
 

JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
. ..
hk wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 21, 11:30 am, harry krause wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 21, 10:55 am, harry krause wrote:
On Jan 20, 3:34 pm, wrote:
My brother (not by blood) is building a house on some land he got
that
is a couple of miles off the exit ramp at route 10 and 75, think
he is
in Live Oaks, or real near it...- Hide quoted text -
It's a very small town and a pretty much "isolated" area, but it is
near
the Suwanee River. Used to drive by the road signs to Live Oak on
my way
to and from Tallahassee. I think there was a truck stop on I-10
near
Live Oak. Maybe it was a burger joint.
I assume the name of the town comes from the "evergreen" oaks found
throughout Northern Florida (and much more of the southeast). It's
a
nice wood, strong, but the damned trees are fragile and lose limbs
easily.
Or maybe, just maybe, it's named after the live oaks that grow
the
http://www.sfrc.ufl.edu/4h/Live_oak/liveoak.htm
What do you think the evergreen oaks are, village idiot?- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -
Again, your childish low life insults show you don't know what in hell
you are talking about, Live Oaks aren't in any way or form
"evergreen". They are deciduous.
D'oh

From wiki:
Harry,
If it wasn't for Google, you wouldn't know anything at all.

Reggie,
If Harry were not here you would not have anything to post to this NG
anymore. Every post of yours today was in response to something he said
or had his name in it. Your intentions here are obvious. You really do
not to get a life.

you have never meet a person you didn't think was an asshole.




Naw, only you Reggie. Add Booger to the list also. The 2 of you deserve
each other, the anonymous aholes that you both are.




Actually, a**hole would be a compliment for Reggie.

More political cut and paste from Harry..
 

On Jan 21, 2:09*pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 21, 1:18 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 21, 11:30 am, harry krause wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 21, 10:55 am, harry krause wrote:
On Jan 20, 3:34 pm, wrote:
My brother (not by blood) is building a house on some land he got that
is a couple of miles off the exit ramp at route 10 and 75, think he is
in Live Oaks, or real near it...- Hide quoted text -
It's a very small town and a pretty much "isolated" area, but it is near
the Suwanee River. Used to drive by the road signs to Live Oak on my way
to and from Tallahassee. I think there was a truck stop on I-10 near
Live Oak. Maybe it was a burger joint.
I assume the name of the town comes from the "evergreen" oaks found
throughout Northern Florida (and much more of the southeast). It's a
nice wood, strong, but the damned trees are fragile and lose limbs easily.
Or maybe, just maybe, it's named after the live oaks that grow the
http://www.sfrc.ufl.edu/4h/Live_oak/liveoak.htm
What do you think the evergreen oaks are, village idiot?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Again, your childish low life insults show you don't know what in hell
you are talking about, Live Oaks aren't in any way or form
"evergreen". They are deciduous.
D'oh

*From wiki:

Live oak or evergreen oak is a general term for a number of unrelated
oaks in several different sections of the genus Quercus that happen to
share the character of *evergreen* foliage.

The name live oak comes from the fact that *evergreen oaks* are still
green and "live" in winter, when other oaks are dormant, leafless and
"dead"-looking. The name is used mainly in North America, where
evergreen oaks are widespread in warmer areas, along the Atlantic coast
from Virginia to Florida, west along the Gulf Coast to Texas and across
the southwest to California and southwest Oregon.

Evergreen oak species are also common in the warmer parts of Europe and
Asia, and are included in this list for the sake of completeness. These
species, although not having "live" in their common names in their
countries of origin, are colloquially called live oaks when cultivated
in North America.

When the term live oak is used in a specific rather than general sense,
it most commonly refers to the Southern live oak (the first species so
named), but can often refer to other species regionally.

The live oak is the official state tree of Georgia.

In Texas, a small grove of live oaks (Texas live oak or Southern live
oak) is known as a mott.

And now here is the boating reference for our New England boatbuilding
friend, which is why I brought up "live oak" in the first place.

Live oak was widely used in early American shipbuilding; the remarkable
resilience of the live oak planking versus its European counterpart in
part made the early American frigates so feared by enemy sailors. The
live oak of USS Constitution repelled the shot of HMS Guerriere so
effectively that one of her sailors was heard to shout, "Huzzah! Her
sides are made of iron!" The ship was given the nickname, Old Ironsides..
Live oak lumber is rarely used for furniture due to warping and twisting
while drying. It is used in shipbuilding and tool handles for its
strength, energy absorption, and density. Dry southern live oak lumber
has a specific gravity of 0.88, the highest of any North American hardwood.

You're a fourth-rate intellect, Loogy. You ought to pick fights with
your peers.- Hide quoted text -

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I know you have to try to make yourself as low as JimH with your
childish insults, but the fact remains that a Live Oak is deciduous.
There are thousands of references to just that. Try it.

No one claimed evergreen oaks didn't shed their leaves, doofus. Lots of
people "in da Souf" refer to live oaks as evergreen oaks, and so does
WIKI, probably the only reference you can reference.

As I suggested, you need to find a few fourth-rate intellects in here
for playmates. Try Wally, Dan, Herring, Bert, et cetera.- Hide quoted text -

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Your childish name calling is cute while you are dancing!