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On Jan 20, 2:37*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:05:31 -0800 (PST), wrote: Yeah, you've bought into the idiotic notion that catfish are somehow not clean. Must be hell to not be able to read and learn on your own. Here, learn something, or at least try: Habitat - Most common in big rivers and streams. Prefers some current, and deep water with sand, gravel or rubble bottoms. Channel catfish also inhabit lakes, reservoirs and ponds. Feeding Habits - Feeds primarily at night using taste buds in the sensitive barbels and throughout the skin to locate prey. Although they normally feed on the bottom, channels also will feed at the surface and at mid-depth. Major foods are aquatic insects, crayfish, mollusks, crustaceans and fishes. Small channels consume invertebrates, but larger ones may eat fish. Contrary to popular belief, carrion is not their normal food. Eating Quality - Considered one of the best-eating freshwater fish. The meat is white, tender and sweet when taken from clean water. Mt uncle was a caterfisherman here before he moved to Florida. He could make a fishhead talk, blink and curl it's lip like Elvis. I really miss him. *I ate a lot of catfish. *Uncle would bring a couple hundred pounds of catfish and carp he had caught during the week and kept caged into a black Chicago neighborhood, where he would barter the smoking of what he wanted to eat and some beer money for the remainder. *I'm sure he ate some carp, but it was never a big deal. *Can't say i ever had it. People who grew up or lived through hard times wouldn't get all high-brow about disdaining carp. OTOH, with pollution it doesn't hurt to be aware of what some fish might be harboring, like mercury, other heavy metals PCB's, etc. I don't trust that salmon my wife brings home sometimes from the store, and told her not to buy it anymore. *It don't taste right. Pretty much off fish unless I catch it myself from waters I deem acceptable. *A neighbor insisted I take a big Coho he caught on Lake Michigan about 15 years ago, even when I told him flat out I'd bury it in the garden. *He didn't want the damn thing either, and he didn't have a garden. --Vic- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - People like JimH will eat fish out of the great lakes that are so chemical laden that if you light a match next to one, it will ignite, but they won't eat those nasty catfish~! |
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 19:14:53 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 12:13:26 -0600, Vic Smith wrote: "Hell, boy, we throw that damn carp away. It's the crust that's the good eatin." LOL!! Twenty years ago when I was just starting out after semi-retirement as a "professional" guide, I took a trip out west with the family. Mrs. Wave took the kids to see something and I went fishing with an First American guide up the Snake River in Wyoming on reservation land. Best fish ever. We caught a couple of nice size trout and the guide kept them. Steamed them in corn husks with some salt and pepper. Unbelievable. Of course, outdoors in the beauty of the Grand Tetons might have helped that along. :) I bet. I think it was about '72 I stopped somewhere out that way to gas up and got to talking with the gas pump jockey about fishing. He was going fishing on the Snake or Green - can't remember - the next day and invited me along. Said they be damming it up soon, and he wasn't happy about that. I was in too big a hurry to take him up on it, and always regretted it. --Vic |
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On Jan 20, 2:05*pm, wrote:
On Jan 20, 1:21*pm, "JimH" wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 12:18:17 -0500, BAR wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 07:53:55 -0800 (PST), wrote: And smallmouth, largemouth, spotted, white and hybrid bass. Along with trout, bluegill, crappie, huge catfish, drum, etc. I love cat fishing. *Around these parts, the cats tend to be channel cats on the small side - say, less than ten pounds or so. *We also have horned pout which can run up to 3/4 pounds sometimes. Spent my high school years fishing the Potomac off of Ft. Belvior for catfish. We would fish for channel cats and what we called mud cats. Use worms to catch perch, back hook the perch to catch the cats. We were fishing for that elusive 25 pounder. *And, we allways had a case of our favorite beverage along to sip while waiting for the poles to be pulled over. I was fishing Lake Marion last summer with a guide out of Santee - great guy, real knowledgable, put me on a channel cat that was 30 pounds easy. *Used a commercial blood bait - we must have caught 10 fish that day, not one under 20 pounds. Good eatin' too. You folks have carp down there? We have lots of Carp in the Potomac and Anacostia rivers. Not much for a fight. People actually eat the Carp even after knowing what garbage the Carp eat. A Texan I know told me that some Texas cattle ranches have big "Carp Cook-outs" during the spawn. These are the ones with extensive irrigation ditches where the carp can grow pretty big. During the spawn the cowboys "round up" the carp by whooping and hollerin' them down the canals, closing canal gates as they go. When they get them to no-way-out end pool they wade in and pitchfork the carp out into truck beds and bring them to the ranch house. The way they cook them is pretty interesting. *Build a big bonfire of brush and mesquite wood on soft earth. *When the fire is down to embers bobcat approximately 1 foot of hot earth and embers aside, and place the fish in the depression, then bobcat the earth and embers back over the fish. *Build another fire over it that'll burn a couple hours. Now before the carp are tossed into the pit that are encased in cow manure. *I think this guy - his name was Rowdy - said the name of the carp dish is called "Carapaced Carp." While the second fire is burning everybody's drinking iced Bud and doing the dosie-doe to the sounds of a local square-dance band. When it's time to eat the bobcat moves the fire off the fish and everybody sits down to feast. Rowdy said when that firepit hardened dung crust is cracked off you can see the clean white carp meat shining in the sun, and steaming. I asked him how the carp tasted, and he looked at me like I was crazy, and says, "Hell, boy, we throw that damn carp away. *It's the crust that's the good eatin." --Vic Carp??? *No thanks. *And no thank on the bottom feeding catfish unless they are farm pond raised.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, you've bought into the idiotic notion that catfish are somehow not clean. Must be hell to not be able to read and learn on your own. Here, learn something, or at least try: Habitat - Most common in big rivers and streams. Prefers some current, and deep water with sand, gravel or rubble bottoms. Channel catfish also inhabit lakes, reservoirs and ponds. Feeding Habits - Feeds primarily at night using taste buds in the sensitive barbels and throughout the skin to locate prey. Although they normally feed on the bottom, channels also will feed at the surface and at mid-depth. Major foods are aquatic insects, crayfish, mollusks, crustaceans and fishes. Small channels consume invertebrates, but larger ones may eat fish. Contrary to popular belief, carrion is not their normal food. Eating Quality - Considered one of the best-eating freshwater fish. The meat is white, tender and sweet when taken from clean water.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Years ago I used to go to north Hartford and stop in at this little catfish and chicken joint. It was greasy but the deep fried catfish was well worth the risk of parking there... |
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On Jan 20, 2:19*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:18:40 -0800 (PST), wrote: Guess we should just cut their frekin' heads off then.. more humane?? Remember that bluefish you argued with for about ten minutes in Narragansett? Think it appreciated the time in the live well to recover? *Did it die? *Did it swim away when you let it go? There is C&R and then there is correct C&R. You are right there dawg...;) That fish was in there for at least 3-4 hours and was way cool when we let him go. Catch and release is much healthier for the fish than choppin' his head off and gutting the thing, almost any time I would think;) But seriously, that blue looked very healthy and spry when we put him back... |
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On Jan 20, 2:44*pm, wrote:
On Jan 20, 2:37*pm, Vic Smith wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:05:31 -0800 (PST), wrote: Yeah, you've bought into the idiotic notion that catfish are somehow not clean. Must be hell to not be able to read and learn on your own. Here, learn something, or at least try: Habitat - Most common in big rivers and streams. Prefers some current, and deep water with sand, gravel or rubble bottoms. Channel catfish also inhabit lakes, reservoirs and ponds. Feeding Habits - Feeds primarily at night using taste buds in the sensitive barbels and throughout the skin to locate prey. Although they normally feed on the bottom, channels also will feed at the surface and at mid-depth. Major foods are aquatic insects, crayfish, mollusks, crustaceans and fishes. Small channels consume invertebrates, but larger ones may eat fish. Contrary to popular belief, carrion is not their normal food. Eating Quality - Considered one of the best-eating freshwater fish. The meat is white, tender and sweet when taken from clean water. Mt uncle was a caterfisherman here before he moved to Florida. He could make a fishhead talk, blink and curl it's lip like Elvis. I really miss him. *I ate a lot of catfish. *Uncle would bring a couple hundred pounds of catfish and carp he had caught during the week and kept caged into a black Chicago neighborhood, where he would barter the smoking of what he wanted to eat and some beer money for the remainder. *I'm sure he ate some carp, but it was never a big deal. *Can't say i ever had it. People who grew up or lived through hard times wouldn't get all high-brow about disdaining carp. OTOH, with pollution it doesn't hurt to be aware of what some fish might be harboring, like mercury, other heavy metals PCB's, etc. I don't trust that salmon my wife brings home sometimes from the store, and told her not to buy it anymore. *It don't taste right. Pretty much off fish unless I catch it myself from waters I deem acceptable. *A neighbor insisted I take a big Coho he caught on Lake Michigan about 15 years ago, even when I told him flat out I'd bury it in the garden. *He didn't want the damn thing either, and he didn't have a garden. --Vic- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - People like JimH will eat fish out of the great lakes that are so chemical laden that if you light a match next to one, it will ignite, but they won't eat those nasty catfish~!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Loogie you jerk! Ten frekin' minutes to gametime and I got to go to Stop and **** and get some catfish, make some deep fried poppers.. yum... |
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:53:19 -0500, HK wrote:
BAR wrote: HK wrote: Don White wrote: "Red Herring" wrote in message ... On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:13:32 -0500, "JimH" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... No boat needed...just walk along the wide shoreline and pick them up out of the mud, eh? ROTF!!!!!!! Word of the Day: toady Main Entry: Pronunciation: \?to--de-\ Function: noun Inflected Form(s): plural toad·ies Etymology: by shortening & alteration from toadeater Date: 1826 : one who flatters in the hope of gaining favors -- Red Herring Pot, kettle..black! Have you hooked up with Snivlers yet today? I wonder when Herring's 93 grandchildren show up if Gramps takes his teeth out, winds them up, and lets them dance on the tabletop for the enjoyment of the younger generation? :-) At least Herring has grandchildren that come to his house. Well, Bertie, find a woman. Get her real drunk and see if she will procreate with you. Send the resulting issue away until it reaches the age of majority, so it isn't poisoned by your selfish mindset. Perhaps it, too, will procreate and with a monitor present in your household, allow you to see kids in your house. Some would say that was 'very cool', Harry. -- Red Herring |
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On Jan 20, 2:57*pm, HK wrote:
wrote: On Jan 20, 2:44 pm, wrote: On Jan 20, 2:37 pm, Vic Smith wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:05:31 -0800 (PST), wrote: Yeah, you've bought into the idiotic notion that catfish are somehow not clean. Must be hell to not be able to read and learn on your own. Here, learn something, or at least try: Habitat - Most common in big rivers and streams. Prefers some current, and deep water with sand, gravel or rubble bottoms. Channel catfish also inhabit lakes, reservoirs and ponds. Feeding Habits - Feeds primarily at night using taste buds in the sensitive barbels and throughout the skin to locate prey. Although they normally feed on the bottom, channels also will feed at the surface and at mid-depth. Major foods are aquatic insects, crayfish, mollusks, crustaceans and fishes. Small channels consume invertebrates, but larger ones may eat fish. Contrary to popular belief, carrion is not their normal food. Eating Quality - Considered one of the best-eating freshwater fish. The meat is white, tender and sweet when taken from clean water. Mt uncle was a caterfisherman here before he moved to Florida. He could make a fishhead talk, blink and curl it's lip like Elvis. I really miss him. *I ate a lot of catfish. *Uncle would bring a couple hundred pounds of catfish and carp he had caught during the week and kept caged into a black Chicago neighborhood, where he would barter the smoking of what he wanted to eat and some beer money for the remainder. *I'm sure he ate some carp, but it was never a big deal. *Can't say i ever had it. People who grew up or lived through hard times wouldn't get all high-brow about disdaining carp. OTOH, with pollution it doesn't hurt to be aware of what some fish might be harboring, like mercury, other heavy metals PCB's, etc. I don't trust that salmon my wife brings home sometimes from the store, and told her not to buy it anymore. *It don't taste right. Pretty much off fish unless I catch it myself from waters I deem acceptable. *A neighbor insisted I take a big Coho he caught on Lake Michigan about 15 years ago, even when I told him flat out I'd bury it in the garden. *He didn't want the damn thing either, and he didn't have a garden. --Vic- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - People like JimH will eat fish out of the great lakes that are so chemical laden that if you light a match next to one, it will ignite, but they won't eat those nasty catfish~!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Loogie you jerk! Ten frekin' minutes to gametime and I got to go to Stop and **** and get some catfish, make some deep fried poppers.. yum... Gametime? Cripes, am I missing yet another StuporBowel?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes you are. |
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 19:01:47 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:25:51 -0500, Red Herring wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 10:13:10 -0600, Vic Smith wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:28:40 -0500, HK wrote: They're ok eating in the smaller sizes, and they are easy to catch. For reasons I don't understand, they seem to fight hard in the colder, New England salt waters. Asked my Dad yesterday, and he said he's only seen a couple in all his Florida fishing years, and never caught one, though he never went after them either. Agree that the bigger fish aren't as good-tasting, so I just might not go after them unless I release. My dad's favorite eating fish is the sand perch. He can still stand there for an hour filleting them to get a couple pounds of meat, and he can hardly stand. They do taste good. I love 'perch fingers'. Fillet's about the size of a half dollar, a quarter inch thick, breaded, deep fried. Takes about a hundred, but damn they're good. Speckled trout - pan fried in a corn meal batter. MMMMMMM....... Trout are getting damn hard to find in the bay. Unless you're Harry of course. But I think they're the best eating of the fish out there. May not be the same trout you're talking about. Here they're also called weakfish. The hook will pull out of their mouth very easily. -- Red Herring |
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On Jan 20, 2:50*pm, wrote:
On Jan 20, 2:05*pm, wrote: On Jan 20, 1:21*pm, "JimH" wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 12:18:17 -0500, BAR wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 07:53:55 -0800 (PST), wrote: And smallmouth, largemouth, spotted, white and hybrid bass. Along with trout, bluegill, crappie, huge catfish, drum, etc. I love cat fishing. *Around these parts, the cats tend to be channel cats on the small side - say, less than ten pounds or so. *We also have horned pout which can run up to 3/4 pounds sometimes. Spent my high school years fishing the Potomac off of Ft. Belvior for catfish. We would fish for channel cats and what we called mud cats. Use worms to catch perch, back hook the perch to catch the cats. We were fishing for that elusive 25 pounder. *And, we allways had a case of our favorite beverage along to sip while waiting for the poles to be pulled over. I was fishing Lake Marion last summer with a guide out of Santee - great guy, real knowledgable, put me on a channel cat that was 30 pounds easy. *Used a commercial blood bait - we must have caught 10 fish that day, not one under 20 pounds. Good eatin' too. You folks have carp down there? We have lots of Carp in the Potomac and Anacostia rivers. Not much for a fight. People actually eat the Carp even after knowing what garbage the Carp eat. A Texan I know told me that some Texas cattle ranches have big "Carp Cook-outs" during the spawn. These are the ones with extensive irrigation ditches where the carp can grow pretty big. During the spawn the cowboys "round up" the carp by whooping and hollerin' them down the canals, closing canal gates as they go. When they get them to no-way-out end pool they wade in and pitchfork the carp out into truck beds and bring them to the ranch house. The way they cook them is pretty interesting. *Build a big bonfire of brush and mesquite wood on soft earth. *When the fire is down to embers bobcat approximately 1 foot of hot earth and embers aside, and place the fish in the depression, then bobcat the earth and embers back over the fish. *Build another fire over it that'll burn a couple hours. Now before the carp are tossed into the pit that are encased in cow manure. *I think this guy - his name was Rowdy - said the name of the carp dish is called "Carapaced Carp." While the second fire is burning everybody's drinking iced Bud and doing the dosie-doe to the sounds of a local square-dance band. When it's time to eat the bobcat moves the fire off the fish and everybody sits down to feast. Rowdy said when that firepit hardened dung crust is cracked off you can see the clean white carp meat shining in the sun, and steaming. I asked him how the carp tasted, and he looked at me like I was crazy, and says, "Hell, boy, we throw that damn carp away. *It's the crust that's the good eatin." --Vic Carp??? *No thanks. *And no thank on the bottom feeding catfish unless they are farm pond raised.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, you've bought into the idiotic notion that catfish are somehow not clean. Must be hell to not be able to read and learn on your own. Here, learn something, or at least try: Habitat - Most common in big rivers and streams. Prefers some current, and deep water with sand, gravel or rubble bottoms. Channel catfish also inhabit lakes, reservoirs and ponds. Feeding Habits - Feeds primarily at night using taste buds in the sensitive barbels and throughout the skin to locate prey. Although they normally feed on the bottom, channels also will feed at the surface and at mid-depth. Major foods are aquatic insects, crayfish, mollusks, crustaceans and fishes. Small channels consume invertebrates, but larger ones may eat fish. Contrary to popular belief, carrion is not their normal food. Eating Quality - Considered one of the best-eating freshwater fish. The meat is white, tender and sweet when taken from clean water.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Years ago I used to go to north Hartford and stop in at this little catfish and chicken joint. It was greasy but the deep fried catfish was well worth the risk of parking there...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - If you ever find yourself on I-75 in the vicinity of Live Oak, FL not far from the GA/FL border, you'll see bright colored billboards for Sheffield's Catfish House. It's a run down looking truckstop with the best catfish I've ever tasted! |
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:19:39 -0500, Red Herring
wrote: hushpuppies I have never developed a taste for hushpuppies for some reason. Oddly, I love cornbread. |
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On Jan 20, 2:54*pm, wrote:
On Jan 20, 2:44*pm, wrote: On Jan 20, 2:37*pm, Vic Smith wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:05:31 -0800 (PST), wrote: Yeah, you've bought into the idiotic notion that catfish are somehow not clean. Must be hell to not be able to read and learn on your own. Here, learn something, or at least try: Habitat - Most common in big rivers and streams. Prefers some current, and deep water with sand, gravel or rubble bottoms. Channel catfish also inhabit lakes, reservoirs and ponds. Feeding Habits - Feeds primarily at night using taste buds in the sensitive barbels and throughout the skin to locate prey. Although they normally feed on the bottom, channels also will feed at the surface and at mid-depth. Major foods are aquatic insects, crayfish, mollusks, crustaceans and fishes. Small channels consume invertebrates, but larger ones may eat fish. Contrary to popular belief, carrion is not their normal food. Eating Quality - Considered one of the best-eating freshwater fish. The meat is white, tender and sweet when taken from clean water. Mt uncle was a caterfisherman here before he moved to Florida. He could make a fishhead talk, blink and curl it's lip like Elvis. I really miss him. *I ate a lot of catfish. *Uncle would bring a couple hundred pounds of catfish and carp he had caught during the week and kept caged into a black Chicago neighborhood, where he would barter the smoking of what he wanted to eat and some beer money for the remainder. *I'm sure he ate some carp, but it was never a big deal. *Can't say i ever had it. People who grew up or lived through hard times wouldn't get all high-brow about disdaining carp. OTOH, with pollution it doesn't hurt to be aware of what some fish might be harboring, like mercury, other heavy metals PCB's, etc. I don't trust that salmon my wife brings home sometimes from the store, and told her not to buy it anymore. *It don't taste right. Pretty much off fish unless I catch it myself from waters I deem acceptable. *A neighbor insisted I take a big Coho he caught on Lake Michigan about 15 years ago, even when I told him flat out I'd bury it in the garden. *He didn't want the damn thing either, and he didn't have a garden. --Vic- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - People like JimH will eat fish out of the great lakes that are so chemical laden that if you light a match next to one, it will ignite, but they won't eat those nasty catfish~!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Loogie you jerk! Ten frekin' minutes to gametime and I got to go to Stop and **** and get some catfish, make some deep fried poppers.. yum...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Mmmmm, I'll be right there! |
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On Jan 20, 2:57*pm, HK wrote:
wrote: On Jan 20, 2:44 pm, wrote: On Jan 20, 2:37 pm, Vic Smith wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:05:31 -0800 (PST), wrote: Yeah, you've bought into the idiotic notion that catfish are somehow not clean. Must be hell to not be able to read and learn on your own. Here, learn something, or at least try: Habitat - Most common in big rivers and streams. Prefers some current, and deep water with sand, gravel or rubble bottoms. Channel catfish also inhabit lakes, reservoirs and ponds. Feeding Habits - Feeds primarily at night using taste buds in the sensitive barbels and throughout the skin to locate prey. Although they normally feed on the bottom, channels also will feed at the surface and at mid-depth. Major foods are aquatic insects, crayfish, mollusks, crustaceans and fishes. Small channels consume invertebrates, but larger ones may eat fish. Contrary to popular belief, carrion is not their normal food. Eating Quality - Considered one of the best-eating freshwater fish. The meat is white, tender and sweet when taken from clean water. Mt uncle was a caterfisherman here before he moved to Florida. He could make a fishhead talk, blink and curl it's lip like Elvis. I really miss him. *I ate a lot of catfish. *Uncle would bring a couple hundred pounds of catfish and carp he had caught during the week and kept caged into a black Chicago neighborhood, where he would barter the smoking of what he wanted to eat and some beer money for the remainder. *I'm sure he ate some carp, but it was never a big deal. *Can't say i ever had it. People who grew up or lived through hard times wouldn't get all high-brow about disdaining carp. OTOH, with pollution it doesn't hurt to be aware of what some fish might be harboring, like mercury, other heavy metals PCB's, etc. I don't trust that salmon my wife brings home sometimes from the store, and told her not to buy it anymore. *It don't taste right. Pretty much off fish unless I catch it myself from waters I deem acceptable. *A neighbor insisted I take a big Coho he caught on Lake Michigan about 15 years ago, even when I told him flat out I'd bury it in the garden. *He didn't want the damn thing either, and he didn't have a garden. --Vic- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - People like JimH will eat fish out of the great lakes that are so chemical laden that if you light a match next to one, it will ignite, but they won't eat those nasty catfish~!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Loogie you jerk! Ten frekin' minutes to gametime and I got to go to Stop and **** and get some catfish, make some deep fried poppers.. yum... Gametime? Cripes, am I missing yet another StuporBowel?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, we all know that just because you don't like football, no one should ever watch it. |
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On Jan 20, 3:19*pm, Red Herring
wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:50:00 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 20, 2:05*pm, wrote: On Jan 20, 1:21*pm, "JimH" wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 12:18:17 -0500, BAR wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 07:53:55 -0800 (PST), wrote: And smallmouth, largemouth, spotted, white and hybrid bass. Along with trout, bluegill, crappie, huge catfish, drum, etc. I love cat fishing. *Around these parts, the cats tend to be channel cats on the small side - say, less than ten pounds or so. *We also have horned pout which can run up to 3/4 pounds sometimes. Spent my high school years fishing the Potomac off of Ft. Belvior for catfish. We would fish for channel cats and what we called mud cats.. Use worms to catch perch, back hook the perch to catch the cats. We were fishing for that elusive 25 pounder. *And, we allways had a case of our favorite beverage along to sip while waiting for the poles to be pulled over. I was fishing Lake Marion last summer with a guide out of Santee - great guy, real knowledgable, put me on a channel cat that was 30 pounds easy. *Used a commercial blood bait - we must have caught 10 fish that day, not one under 20 pounds. Good eatin' too. You folks have carp down there? We have lots of Carp in the Potomac and Anacostia rivers. Not much for a fight. People actually eat the Carp even after knowing what garbage the Carp eat. A Texan I know told me that some Texas cattle ranches have big "Carp Cook-outs" during the spawn. These are the ones with extensive irrigation ditches where the carp can grow pretty big. During the spawn the cowboys "round up" the carp by whooping and hollerin' them down the canals, closing canal gates as they go. When they get them to no-way-out end pool they wade in and pitchfork the carp out into truck beds and bring them to the ranch house. The way they cook them is pretty interesting. *Build a big bonfire of brush and mesquite wood on soft earth. *When the fire is down to embers bobcat approximately 1 foot of hot earth and embers aside, and place the fish in the depression, then bobcat the earth and embers back over the fish. *Build another fire over it that'll burn a couple hours. Now before the carp are tossed into the pit that are encased in cow manure. *I think this guy - his name was Rowdy - said the name of the carp dish is called "Carapaced Carp." While the second fire is burning everybody's drinking iced Bud and doing the dosie-doe to the sounds of a local square-dance band. When it's time to eat the bobcat moves the fire off the fish and everybody sits down to feast. Rowdy said when that firepit hardened dung crust is cracked off you can see the clean white carp meat shining in the sun, and steaming. I asked him how the carp tasted, and he looked at me like I was crazy, and says, "Hell, boy, we throw that damn carp away. *It's the crust that's the good eatin." --Vic Carp??? *No thanks. *And no thank on the bottom feeding catfish unless they are farm pond raised.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, you've bought into the idiotic notion that catfish are somehow not clean. Must be hell to not be able to read and learn on your own. Here, learn something, or at least try: Habitat - Most common in big rivers and streams. Prefers some current, and deep water with sand, gravel or rubble bottoms. Channel catfish also inhabit lakes, reservoirs and ponds. Feeding Habits - Feeds primarily at night using taste buds in the sensitive barbels and throughout the skin to locate prey. Although they normally feed on the bottom, channels also will feed at the surface and at mid-depth. Major foods are aquatic insects, crayfish, mollusks, crustaceans and fishes. Small channels consume invertebrates, but larger ones may eat fish. Contrary to popular belief, carrion is not their normal food. Eating Quality - Considered one of the best-eating freshwater fish. The meat is white, tender and sweet when taken from clean water.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Years ago I used to go to north Hartford and stop in at this little catfish and chicken joint. It was greasy but the deep fried catfish was well worth the risk of parking there... Used to be one outside Columbus, GA, too. For about $3.99 you could eat all the catfish, hushpuppies, cole slaw, and french fries your body could hold.. That was back in 1970, so times may have changed some. -- Red Herring- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Haven't noticed it the few times I've been in Columbus, I'll ask my neighbor, he's a native of the area. There is some damned fine bbq there, though: http://www.countrysbarbeque.com/ |
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On Jan 20, 3:29*pm, wrote:
On Jan 20, 2:50*pm, wrote: On Jan 20, 2:05*pm, wrote: On Jan 20, 1:21*pm, "JimH" wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 12:18:17 -0500, BAR wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 07:53:55 -0800 (PST), wrote: And smallmouth, largemouth, spotted, white and hybrid bass. Along with trout, bluegill, crappie, huge catfish, drum, etc. I love cat fishing. *Around these parts, the cats tend to be channel cats on the small side - say, less than ten pounds or so. *We also have horned pout which can run up to 3/4 pounds sometimes. Spent my high school years fishing the Potomac off of Ft. Belvior for catfish. We would fish for channel cats and what we called mud cats. Use worms to catch perch, back hook the perch to catch the cats. We were fishing for that elusive 25 pounder. *And, we allways had a case of our favorite beverage along to sip while waiting for the poles to be pulled over. I was fishing Lake Marion last summer with a guide out of Santee - great guy, real knowledgable, put me on a channel cat that was 30 pounds easy. *Used a commercial blood bait - we must have caught 10 fish that day, not one under 20 pounds. Good eatin' too. You folks have carp down there? We have lots of Carp in the Potomac and Anacostia rivers. Not much for a fight. People actually eat the Carp even after knowing what garbage the Carp eat. A Texan I know told me that some Texas cattle ranches have big "Carp Cook-outs" during the spawn. These are the ones with extensive irrigation ditches where the carp can grow pretty big. During the spawn the cowboys "round up" the carp by whooping and hollerin' them down the canals, closing canal gates as they go. When they get them to no-way-out end pool they wade in and pitchfork the carp out into truck beds and bring them to the ranch house. The way they cook them is pretty interesting. *Build a big bonfire of brush and mesquite wood on soft earth. *When the fire is down to embers bobcat approximately 1 foot of hot earth and embers aside, and place the fish in the depression, then bobcat the earth and embers back over the fish. *Build another fire over it that'll burn a couple hours. Now before the carp are tossed into the pit that are encased in cow manure. *I think this guy - his name was Rowdy - said the name of the carp dish is called "Carapaced Carp." While the second fire is burning everybody's drinking iced Bud and doing the dosie-doe to the sounds of a local square-dance band. When it's time to eat the bobcat moves the fire off the fish and everybody sits down to feast. Rowdy said when that firepit hardened dung crust is cracked off you can see the clean white carp meat shining in the sun, and steaming.. I asked him how the carp tasted, and he looked at me like I was crazy, and says, "Hell, boy, we throw that damn carp away. *It's the crust that's the good eatin." --Vic Carp??? *No thanks. *And no thank on the bottom feeding catfish unless they are farm pond raised.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, you've bought into the idiotic notion that catfish are somehow not clean. Must be hell to not be able to read and learn on your own. Here, learn something, or at least try: Habitat - Most common in big rivers and streams. Prefers some current, and deep water with sand, gravel or rubble bottoms. Channel catfish also inhabit lakes, reservoirs and ponds. Feeding Habits - Feeds primarily at night using taste buds in the sensitive barbels and throughout the skin to locate prey. Although they normally feed on the bottom, channels also will feed at the surface and at mid-depth. Major foods are aquatic insects, crayfish, mollusks, crustaceans and fishes. Small channels consume invertebrates, but larger ones may eat fish. Contrary to popular belief, carrion is not their normal food. Eating Quality - Considered one of the best-eating freshwater fish. The meat is white, tender and sweet when taken from clean water.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Years ago I used to go to north Hartford and stop in at this little catfish and chicken joint. It was greasy but the deep fried catfish was well worth the risk of parking there...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - If you ever find yourself on I-75 in the vicinity of Live Oak, FL not far from the GA/FL border, you'll see bright colored billboards for Sheffield's Catfish House. It's a run down looking truckstop with the best catfish I've ever tasted!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - My brother (not by blood) is building a house on some land he got that is a couple of miles off the exit ramp at route 10 and 75, think he is in Live Oaks, or real near it... |
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BAR wrote: HK wrote: Don White wrote: "Red Herring" wrote in message ... On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:13:32 -0500, "JimH" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... No boat needed...just walk along the wide shoreline and pick them up out of the mud, eh? ROTF!!!!!!! Word of the Day: toady Main Entry: Pronunciation: \?to--de-\ Function: noun Inflected Form(s): plural toad·ies Etymology: by shortening & alteration from toadeater Date: 1826 : one who flatters in the hope of gaining favors -- Red Herring Pot, kettle..black! Have you hooked up with Snivlers yet today? I wonder when Herring's 93 grandchildren show up if Gramps takes his teeth out, winds them up, and lets them dance on the tabletop for the enjoyment of the younger generation? :-) At least Herring has grandchildren that come to his house. Well, Bertie, find a woman. Get her real drunk and see if she will procreate with you. Send the resulting issue away until it reaches the age of majority, so it isn't poisoned by your selfish mindset. Perhaps it, too, will procreate and with a monitor present in your household, allow you to see kids in your house. Why are you so angry? Harry, I am married and have two beautiful and intelligent daughters. Did I say they were in the Gifted and Talented programs? Well they are and the older one is working on getting into the Magnet High School program for science and technology or the humanities. They haven't been poisoned yet, I fear that when they get to college they will catch the liberal disease which will take a few years to get out of their systems. My kids love me, they tell me that every day, sometimes two or three times a day. |
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"Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:04:10 -0500, HK wrote: Vic Smith wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:02:19 -0500, Red Herring wrote: Bread it, fry it, eat it. Simple! That's what I normally eat, but it's always a fair-side cook doing the frying. But I'm always catching stuff that fillets out pretty small. When I start getting the bigger, don't know exactly the best method for slicing it up for frying. Don't care too much for fish unless it's fried. --Vic It's best to avoid frying if you can. There are many ways to cook fish without oil or, even worse, crisco. No way. --Vic Asian Steamed fish. good with the ones that are the correct size for 2-4 people. In a Wok or deep skillet, a little oil, ginger and garlic. Heat oil and sear fish on both sides and then add some wine, and a few green onions, and cover cook until flaky. |
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 19:01:47 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:25:51 -0500, Red Herring wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 10:13:10 -0600, Vic Smith wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:28:40 -0500, HK wrote: They're ok eating in the smaller sizes, and they are easy to catch. For reasons I don't understand, they seem to fight hard in the colder, New England salt waters. Asked my Dad yesterday, and he said he's only seen a couple in all his Florida fishing years, and never caught one, though he never went after them either. Agree that the bigger fish aren't as good-tasting, so I just might not go after them unless I release. My dad's favorite eating fish is the sand perch. He can still stand there for an hour filleting them to get a couple pounds of meat, and he can hardly stand. They do taste good. I love 'perch fingers'. Fillet's about the size of a half dollar, a quarter inch thick, breaded, deep fried. Takes about a hundred, but damn they're good. Speckled trout - pan fried in a corn meal batter. MMMMMMM....... Trout are getting damn hard to find in the bay. Unless you're Harry of course. But I think they're the best eating of the fish out there. May not be the same trout you're talking about. Here they're also called weakfish. The hook will pull out of their mouth very easily. The problem is that the bluefish find a school of Sea Trout/Weakfish/Speckled Trout and when you are gently reeling in the Sea Trout a damn bluefish will see it and make a dash towards it and take a big old bite out of the middle of the Sea Trout and you are left with a head on the hook if you are lucky. Sea Trout are good eating fish. |
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... "Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:04:10 -0500, HK wrote: Vic Smith wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:02:19 -0500, Red Herring wrote: Bread it, fry it, eat it. Simple! That's what I normally eat, but it's always a fair-side cook doing the frying. But I'm always catching stuff that fillets out pretty small. When I start getting the bigger, don't know exactly the best method for slicing it up for frying. Don't care too much for fish unless it's fried. --Vic It's best to avoid frying if you can. There are many ways to cook fish without oil or, even worse, crisco. No way. --Vic Asian Steamed fish. good with the ones that are the correct size for 2-4 people. In a Wok or deep skillet, a little oil, ginger and garlic. Heat oil and sear fish on both sides and then add some wine, and a few green onions, and cover cook until flaky. Maybe some black bean sauce.....yum city. |
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:19:39 -0500, Red Herring wrote: hushpuppies I have never developed a taste for hushpuppies for some reason. Oddly, I love cornbread. You are odd! |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 12:36:33 -0600, Vic Smith wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 13:31:33 -0500, BAR wrote: Vic Smith wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 09:25:22 -0800 (PST), wrote: I've fished for a lot of different species in a lot of different waters, and striper fishing rates right up there with some of the best. Which ones? Lots of different "stripers." There's a "striper" here in the lakes of Illinois that some call white bass. Caught a lot of them, but they don't bet much bigger than a nice crappie. Then I've heard of hybrids in the impoundments out west that are supposed to be good fighters, and get pretty big. Ocean stripers too. I'm confused now. http://www.alltackle.com/striped_bass_catch.htm Hoo-eeee! Now that looks like fun. And tells me they call them rockfish too. Morons who fish the Chesapeake call them rockfish and the lefties on the West coast do the same. :) Are they good eating? Very good - similar to other white fish flesh taken from the ocean like flounder, haddock, pollock, etc. Only heard of them called Stripers (sometimes spelled Strippers) here on the west coast. Rockfish are a completely different fish. All the fish here are of the "Groundfish complex" as the fisheries managers call them. Most of them are Sebastes genus. Also known as codfish here. http://www.dfg.ca.gov/marine/fishid2007.pdf |
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On Jan 20, 4:19*pm, BAR wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:19:39 -0500, Red Herring wrote: hushpuppies I have never developed a taste for hushpuppies for some reason. Oddly, I love cornbread. You are odd! Yeah he is...;) |
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"Red Herring" wrote in message ... On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:13:42 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 08:59:46 -0500, BAR wrote: Gear that heavy is used to ensure that the fish has a better than good chance to get in the boat. It's all about word of mouth advertising and repeat customers. Some of the better captains have moved to Virginia Beach for the spring and summer and in the fall they follow the fish down to Florida. That's a good point. I preferred to give clients a quality all-round experience. As a rule, I never had complaints and 90% retention rate for clients when I was really active in the business. You'd be surprised at how successful a trip can be without having a stellar day fishing. I loved to get the clients involved in the whole process - even to the point of letting them have a turn at the wheel when conditions warranted. Show 'em how to do stuff, different ways of rigging, sea stories (my Mako story was a favorite told many times) - I looked at it as a total experience, not just catching fish. Most of us aren't messing with clients, but friends. A fishing trip is successful anytime. It's even *more* successful if the folks catch their limit of fish. -- Red Herring Catching and keeping a limit, does not make for great trip. It is the day on the water, and the total experience. If I wanted fish to eat, I can buy them all cleaned at the market for a lot less than I can catch them. Probably buy them fixed into a nice dinner cheaper than I can catch them. A former fishing partner from Harrisburg, PA was your way. If not a limit, was not a good trip. Even if we saw river otters, and beaver in the Sacramento Delta, the trip duccess depended on limits. Unfortunately because of years and diabetes caused loss of a leg he no longer fishes. I fished a lake friday. Kept one freshwater Coho Salmon as it was not going to survive the unhooking process. Did taste good with fried potatoes. |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 08:46:36 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Jan 18, 5:21 pm, HK wrote: wrote: On Jan 18, 1:02 pm, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 12:56:13 -0400, "Don White" wrote: I don't know if WayneD still takes out paying fishing customers, but if so I imagine he'd just pass any additional costs on to them. Why not - I do. :) Now, I can see paying to watch you fish...just for the entertainment value... :} No, if it's entertainment you want, come watch me fish. It's like, I know there is something down there in the water, but I still have not really figured out what it is.. After all, once in a while when I do catch one it's not in the water anymore, it's all very confusing.. ;) Well, if you ever get your butt down here, let me know, and we'll go out and find some flounder or other good eating fish. It's only the plonkers who chase after stripers, or, as they usually spell it, "strippers." Another example of *if Harry doesn't do it, own it, or like it, no one else should*. Millions of striper fisherman in the U.S., but they are all idiots because Harry doesn't striper fish....... I'm not much of a striper fan myself. They are a good eating fish and when they have some heft, can be a ton of fun on light tackle, but your average striper, from a boat, isn't a real challenge. Now from the surf - that's a whole different story. It's a challenge to work a striper from the surf or from rocks - that can be a real blast and challenging. I have three 50 lbers to my credit - 51, 54 and 58. All were from the surf at Watch Hill and Napatree Beach in Westerly, RI on an eleven foot Ugly Stick rod, Van Staal reel and 20 lb test using a dodger lure of my own design. Can't beat that experience. Anything above 20 lbs is a good fish and will give you a decent turn of the reel. Below that - eh. We were in Boston in the late 80's and as we crossed one of the big bridges, people were fishing from it, using a balloon to float the bait out there. Always wondered what they were fishing for. Since we were driving, could not stop and ask. |
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Red Herring wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 19:01:47 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:25:51 -0500, Red Herring wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 10:13:10 -0600, Vic Smith wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:28:40 -0500, HK wrote: They're ok eating in the smaller sizes, and they are easy to catch. For reasons I don't understand, they seem to fight hard in the colder, New England salt waters. Asked my Dad yesterday, and he said he's only seen a couple in all his Florida fishing years, and never caught one, though he never went after them either. Agree that the bigger fish aren't as good-tasting, so I just might not go after them unless I release. My dad's favorite eating fish is the sand perch. He can still stand there for an hour filleting them to get a couple pounds of meat, and he can hardly stand. They do taste good. I love 'perch fingers'. Fillet's about the size of a half dollar, a quarter inch thick, breaded, deep fried. Takes about a hundred, but damn they're good. Speckled trout - pan fried in a corn meal batter. MMMMMMM....... Trout are getting damn hard to find in the bay. Unless you're Harry of course. But I think they're the best eating of the fish out there. May not be the same trout you're talking about. Here they're also called weakfish. The hook will pull out of their mouth very easily. The problem is that the bluefish find a school of Sea Trout/Weakfish/Speckled Trout and when you are gently reeling in the Sea Trout a damn bluefish will see it and make a dash towards it and take a big old bite out of the middle of the Sea Trout and you are left with a head on the hook if you are lucky. Sea Trout are good eating fish. Yes, they are. Sea trout and weakfish are not the same fish. |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 12:36:33 -0600, Vic Smith wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 13:31:33 -0500, BAR wrote: Vic Smith wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 09:25:22 -0800 (PST), wrote: I've fished for a lot of different species in a lot of different waters, and striper fishing rates right up there with some of the best. Which ones? Lots of different "stripers." There's a "striper" here in the lakes of Illinois that some call white bass. Caught a lot of them, but they don't bet much bigger than a nice crappie. Then I've heard of hybrids in the impoundments out west that are supposed to be good fighters, and get pretty big. Ocean stripers too. I'm confused now. http://www.alltackle.com/striped_bass_catch.htm Hoo-eeee! Now that looks like fun. And tells me they call them rockfish too. Morons who fish the Chesapeake call them rockfish and the lefties on the West coast do the same. :) Are they good eating? Very good - similar to other white fish flesh taken from the ocean like flounder, haddock, pollock, etc. Only heard of them called Stripers (sometimes spelled Strippers) here on the west coast. Rockfish are a completely different fish. All the fish here are of the "Groundfish complex" as the fisheries managers call them. Most of them are Sebastes genus. Also known as codfish here. http://www.dfg.ca.gov/marine/fishid2007.pdf Locals who live on and fish the Bay call them rockfish. It seems to be a mostly Maryland-Delaware-Virginia name for striped bass. As you point it, it is not the same critter as your west coast rockfish. As a Yankee, I was introduced to striped bass as stripers. It wasn't until I was in my 20's that I caught up with a stripper. |
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"Red Herring" wrote in message ... On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:13:32 -0500, "JimH" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... No boat needed...just walk along the wide shoreline and pick them up out of the mud, eh? ROTF!!!!!!! Word of the Day: toady Main Entry: Pronunciation: \?to--de-\ Function: noun Inflected Form(s): plural toad·ies Etymology: by shortening & alteration from toadeater Date: 1826 : one who flatters in the hope of gaining favors -- Red Herring Lighten up, was a funny comment. |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:19:39 -0500, Red Herring wrote: hushpuppies I have never developed a taste for hushpuppies for some reason. Oddly, I love cornbread. Depends on the hushpuppy. When I was stationed at Biloxi, the local shrimp and fried oyster place had great hushpuppies. Rare to find. Best HP line I ever heard, and still laugh when thinking about it was at Rockingham Raceway in about 1988. Bought a box lunch of fried chicken, bad hush puppies and maybe slaw. A little old lady of about 75 years young, picks out one of the wilted hush puppies that looked more like a french fry, and while wiggling that HP, asks "What the hell is this here thing?" |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:08:50 -0500, BAR wrote: Red Herring wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 12:18:17 -0500, BAR wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 07:53:55 -0800 (PST), wrote: And smallmouth, largemouth, spotted, white and hybrid bass. Along with trout, bluegill, crappie, huge catfish, drum, etc. I love cat fishing. Around these parts, the cats tend to be channel cats on the small side - say, less than ten pounds or so. We also have horned pout which can run up to 3/4 pounds sometimes. Spent my high school years fishing the Potomac off of Ft. Belvior for catfish. We would fish for channel cats and what we called mud cats. Use worms to catch perch, back hook the perch to catch the cats. We were fishing for that elusive 25 pounder. And, we allways had a case of our favorite beverage along to sip while waiting for the poles to be pulled over. I was fishing Lake Marion last summer with a guide out of Santee - great guy, real knowledgable, put me on a channel cat that was 30 pounds easy. Used a commercial blood bait - we must have caught 10 fish that day, not one under 20 pounds. Good eatin' too. You folks have carp down there? We have lots of Carp in the Potomac and Anacostia rivers. Not much for a fight. People actually eat the Carp even after knowing what garbage the Carp eat. That's a coincidence. I used to have a spot off Ft Belvoir where I'd anchor and use salted eel for catfish. They weren't worth a damn to eat, but it was fun to take nieces and nephews out there and let them catch fish. I'd tell them we had to kiss 'em goodbye when we threw them back. They had little problem with that, after I showed them how, but there momma's didn't think it was too cool. -- Red Herring The place we fished was on the south side of Dogue Creek where it meets the Potomac. Lots of moving water. When the paper freighters heading to the up river you had to get everything off the beach due to the wake hitting you about 5 minutes after the freighter passed. Heh - largest redfish I ever caught was in a similar situation. Caught is a correct way to phrase it, but I didn't use a pole, line, hooks or reels. :) We used to catch catfish in Clear Lake, CA by hand. They would spawn in the tires used a dock bumpers. The Sacramento Delta has millions of tasty catfish. White cats. about 3/4#. We get some larger yellow cats, but they just do not taste that good. Mostly we catch them on Freshwater clams and sardines. |
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:37:53 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote: No Bluefish out here. You will get salmon in the feeding frenzy at times. Which is always a nice suprize. Really - that's very cool. |
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On Jan 20, 5:22*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:37:53 -0800, "Calif Bill" wrote: No Bluefish out here. *You will get salmon in the feeding frenzy at times. Which is always a nice suprize. Really - that's very cool. From what I have seen on video, probably a similar experience from bluefish boil, to salmon frenzy.. The fish seem to have a similar cut, probably act similar on the line, except for the different environments.. |
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 16:25:54 -0400, "Don White"
wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: On Jan 20, 2:44 pm, wrote: On Jan 20, 2:37 pm, Vic Smith wrote: Gametime? Cripes, am I missing yet another StuporBowel? I thought they dragged the Stupor Bowl ot until March. Since New England is playing on HD, I have a mild interest..... but that's about it. Second Word of the Day: MINION Main Entry: min·ion Pronunciation: \?min-y?n\ Function: noun Etymology: Middle French mignon darling Date: circa 1500 1 : a servile dependent, follower, or underling 2 : one highly favored : idol 3 : a subordinate or petty official -- Red Herring |
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 20:29:20 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:19:39 -0500, Red Herring wrote: hushpuppies I have never developed a taste for hushpuppies for some reason. Oddly, I love cornbread. With some bacon and onions therein, they're really bad for you. Stay away from them. -- Red Herring |
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"HK" wrote in message ... BAR wrote: Red Herring wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 19:01:47 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:25:51 -0500, Red Herring wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 10:13:10 -0600, Vic Smith wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:28:40 -0500, HK wrote: They're ok eating in the smaller sizes, and they are easy to catch. For reasons I don't understand, they seem to fight hard in the colder, New England salt waters. Asked my Dad yesterday, and he said he's only seen a couple in all his Florida fishing years, and never caught one, though he never went after them either. Agree that the bigger fish aren't as good-tasting, so I just might not go after them unless I release. My dad's favorite eating fish is the sand perch. He can still stand there for an hour filleting them to get a couple pounds of meat, and he can hardly stand. They do taste good. I love 'perch fingers'. Fillet's about the size of a half dollar, a quarter inch thick, breaded, deep fried. Takes about a hundred, but damn they're good. Speckled trout - pan fried in a corn meal batter. MMMMMMM....... Trout are getting damn hard to find in the bay. Unless you're Harry of course. But I think they're the best eating of the fish out there. May not be the same trout you're talking about. Here they're also called weakfish. The hook will pull out of their mouth very easily. The problem is that the bluefish find a school of Sea Trout/Weakfish/Speckled Trout and when you are gently reeling in the Sea Trout a damn bluefish will see it and make a dash towards it and take a big old bite out of the middle of the Sea Trout and you are left with a head on the hook if you are lucky. Sea Trout are good eating fish. Yes, they are. Sea trout and weakfish are not the same fish. Weakfish are also called yellow mouth trout. |
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