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Spent the day, from 4 AM this morning until 5 PM this afternoon
helping my dealer set up for the New England Boat Show at the new Boston Convention and Exhibition Center. There were an incredible number of boats crammed into 500,000 sq. ft. I've never been to the Jacobs center in New York which is supposedly bigger, but this was incredible. From where we were setting up, you could look across the center to where Bassett was setting up their Sea Ray exhibit and the 50 footers looked like toys. In fact, I think one of them was bigger than 50 foot, but I didn't get over there to take a closer look at it. As my interest is small boats (those 25' and under) with outboard power, I kept wandering to look at other boats when there was some down time (which there wasn't a lot of). I got up close and personal with a Parker 2530 Extended Cabin with a 350 Yamaha on it which was in the next booth over. I'll say this - the engine is more impressive than the boat. sidebar Why Parker doesn't put some styling on their boats is beyond me - in particular for the money they want for it. Thing looks like somebody put a box on top of a box with a pointy thing at one end then painted it one solid color of dull beige. I also noticed something interesting with respect to the bracket - there is no direct support other than where it's bolted to the transom. I snuck a quick look at the attachment points and can honestly say I was under whelmed at how the bracket was attached. Then again, it must be ok - I've never heard of one falling off or loosening up. Another thing that was interesting was when they unloaded the boat from the trailer to a rolling stand - it slipped back a little and the engine hit the floor - the bracket flexed a little. I wonder if that's a design feature for hard hits on underwater objects? /sidebar Anyway... Hanging off the bracket, the engine doesn't look at large as it does just sitting on the stand - in fact, it was a 25" shaft engine and I measured it from skeg to top of the hood - it's not taller than my 25" ETEC 200 HO - it is a little wider. Under the hood - wow. There is a lot of technology there - it looked as complicated as my ETEC. I talked to the dealer's head mechanic - he was pretty honest in his evaluation. It has some good points, it has some bad points - mostly related to acceleration compared to Optimax, ETEC and Verado. According to him, fuel economy is reasonable for it's size but you can't make a direct comparison because of it's size. Which is a good point. There were some boats there that were new to me - different in that they had some rather intriguing lines and different approaches to "multi-purpose". I can't remember all the different names - I'm going back on Saturday for the whole day - half "on duty" and half on my own to wander around - I'll get details then. Long day, tiring day, but way cool looking at all the boats. |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Why Parker doesn't put some styling on their boats is beyond me - in particular for the money they want for it. Thing looks like somebody put a box on top of a box with a pointy thing at one end then painted it one solid color of dull beige. I'm sure if you begged, Parker would metalflake a hull, put stripes on the cabin, and maybe add tailfins on the gunnels. Then you would have yourself a boat as stylish as...a Ranger. :} -- George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever! |
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On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:39:10 -0500, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Why Parker doesn't put some styling on their boats is beyond me - in particular for the money they want for it. Thing looks like somebody put a box on top of a box with a pointy thing at one end then painted it one solid color of dull beige. I'm sure if you begged, Parker would metalflake a hull, put stripes on the cabin, and maybe add tailfins on the gunnels. Then you would have yourself a boat as stylish as...a Ranger. :} Here's a Parker. http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa....jsp?boatid=17 Here's a similar Steiger. http://steigercraft.com/main/docs/bo....cfm?boatid=45 Ain't no comparison - the Steiger has some style and flair to it. Even in monochrome. |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:39:10 -0500, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Why Parker doesn't put some styling on their boats is beyond me - in particular for the money they want for it. Thing looks like somebody put a box on top of a box with a pointy thing at one end then painted it one solid color of dull beige. I'm sure if you begged, Parker would metalflake a hull, put stripes on the cabin, and maybe add tailfins on the gunnels. Then you would have yourself a boat as stylish as...a Ranger. :} Here's a Parker. http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa....jsp?boatid=17 Here's a similar Steiger. http://steigercraft.com/main/docs/bo....cfm?boatid=45 Ain't no comparison - the Steiger has some style and flair to it. Even in monochrome. And much, much less quality where it counts. I've seen Steigers and Parkers side by side and have crawled aboard both. But some buyers are interested in flash, and others are not. |
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"HK" wrote in message ... Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:39:10 -0500, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Why Parker doesn't put some styling on their boats is beyond me - in particular for the money they want for it. Thing looks like somebody put a box on top of a box with a pointy thing at one end then painted it one solid color of dull beige. I'm sure if you begged, Parker would metalflake a hull, put stripes on the cabin, and maybe add tailfins on the gunnels. Then you would have yourself a boat as stylish as...a Ranger. :} Here's a Parker. http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa....jsp?boatid=17 Here's a similar Steiger. http://steigercraft.com/main/docs/bo....cfm?boatid=45 Ain't no comparison - the Steiger has some style and flair to it. Even in monochrome. And much, much less quality where it counts. I've seen Steigers and Parkers side by side and have crawled aboard both. But some buyers are interested in flash, and others are not. It would be interesting to see an honest, head to head evaluation by a knowledgeable reviewer. What stood out to me was the Parker's 16 degree versus 21 degree deadrise on the Steiger. It would be interesting to see how they each handled the same seas. Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:39:10 -0500, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Why Parker doesn't put some styling on their boats is beyond me - in particular for the money they want for it. Thing looks like somebody put a box on top of a box with a pointy thing at one end then painted it one solid color of dull beige. I'm sure if you begged, Parker would metalflake a hull, put stripes on the cabin, and maybe add tailfins on the gunnels. Then you would have yourself a boat as stylish as...a Ranger. :} Here's a Parker. http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa....jsp?boatid=17 Here's a similar Steiger. http://steigercraft.com/main/docs/bo....cfm?boatid=45 Ain't no comparison - the Steiger has some style and flair to it. Even in monochrome. And much, much less quality where it counts. I've seen Steigers and Parkers side by side and have crawled aboard both. But some buyers are interested in flash, and others are not. It would be interesting to see an honest, head to head evaluation by a knowledgeable reviewer. What stood out to me was the Parker's 16 degree versus 21 degree deadrise on the Steiger. It would be interesting to see how they each handled the same seas. Eisboch Parker offers different boats with different amounts of deadrise, as does Steiger. They are direct competitors. |
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On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:10:46 -0500, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:39:10 -0500, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Why Parker doesn't put some styling on their boats is beyond me - in particular for the money they want for it. Thing looks like somebody put a box on top of a box with a pointy thing at one end then painted it one solid color of dull beige. I'm sure if you begged, Parker would metalflake a hull, put stripes on the cabin, and maybe add tailfins on the gunnels. Then you would have yourself a boat as stylish as...a Ranger. :} Here's a Parker. http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa....jsp?boatid=17 Here's a similar Steiger. http://steigercraft.com/main/docs/bo....cfm?boatid=45 Ain't no comparison - the Steiger has some style and flair to it. Even in monochrome. And much, much less quality where it counts. Oh give it up Harry. Steigers are a high quality boat. I've seen Steigers and Parkers side by side and have crawled aboard both. So have I. Steigers are the equal of a Parker in every sense with one exception. They have some style. But some buyers are interested in flash, and others are not. Parker owners have no sense of style. :) |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:10:46 -0500, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:39:10 -0500, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Why Parker doesn't put some styling on their boats is beyond me - in particular for the money they want for it. Thing looks like somebody put a box on top of a box with a pointy thing at one end then painted it one solid color of dull beige. I'm sure if you begged, Parker would metalflake a hull, put stripes on the cabin, and maybe add tailfins on the gunnels. Then you would have yourself a boat as stylish as...a Ranger. :} Here's a Parker. http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa....jsp?boatid=17 Here's a similar Steiger. http://steigercraft.com/main/docs/bo....cfm?boatid=45 Ain't no comparison - the Steiger has some style and flair to it. Even in monochrome. And much, much less quality where it counts. Oh give it up Harry. Steigers are a high quality boat. I've seen Steigers and Parkers side by side and have crawled aboard both. So have I. Steigers are the equal of a Parker in every sense with one exception. They have some style. But some buyers are interested in flash, and others are not. Parker owners have no sense of style. :) Well, that part of your statement may be true. |
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Oh give it up Harry.
sigh He never will, you know that. His will always be bigger, faster, more stable, taste better, etc, etc, etc. AND... he will always defend his position to the death... he's NEVER wrong. :- --Mike "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:10:46 -0500, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:39:10 -0500, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Why Parker doesn't put some styling on their boats is beyond me - in particular for the money they want for it. Thing looks like somebody put a box on top of a box with a pointy thing at one end then painted it one solid color of dull beige. I'm sure if you begged, Parker would metalflake a hull, put stripes on the cabin, and maybe add tailfins on the gunnels. Then you would have yourself a boat as stylish as...a Ranger. :} Here's a Parker. http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa....jsp?boatid=17 Here's a similar Steiger. http://steigercraft.com/main/docs/bo....cfm?boatid=45 Ain't no comparison - the Steiger has some style and flair to it. Even in monochrome. And much, much less quality where it counts. Oh give it up Harry. Steigers are a high quality boat. I've seen Steigers and Parkers side by side and have crawled aboard both. So have I. Steigers are the equal of a Parker in every sense with one exception. They have some style. But some buyers are interested in flash, and others are not. Parker owners have no sense of style. :) |
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On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 02:29:39 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: Parker owners have no sense of style. :) We surely know of one case where the owner also lacks class. Style is in the eye of the beholder however. There is something about the high transom Parker's no nonsense utilitarian appearance that holds a certain amount of appeal, sort of like a good work boat. The low transom, low deadrise models however are for river wussies. |
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