Boats, boats and more boats...
 

Spent the day, from 4 AM this morning until 5 PM this afternoon
helping my dealer set up for the New England Boat Show at the new
Boston Convention and Exhibition Center.

There were an incredible number of boats crammed into 500,000 sq. ft.
I've never been to the Jacobs center in New York which is supposedly
bigger, but this was incredible. From where we were setting up, you
could look across the center to where Bassett was setting up their Sea
Ray exhibit and the 50 footers looked like toys. In fact, I think one
of them was bigger than 50 foot, but I didn't get over there to take a
closer look at it.

As my interest is small boats (those 25' and under) with outboard
power, I kept wandering to look at other boats when there was some
down time (which there wasn't a lot of). I got up close and personal
with a Parker 2530 Extended Cabin with a 350 Yamaha on it which was in
the next booth over. I'll say this - the engine is more impressive
than the boat.

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Why Parker doesn't put some styling on their boats is beyond me - in
particular for the money they want for it. Thing looks like somebody
put a box on top of a box with a pointy thing at one end then painted
it one solid color of dull beige.

I also noticed something interesting with respect to the bracket -
there is no direct support other than where it's bolted to the
transom. I snuck a quick look at the attachment points and can
honestly say I was under whelmed at how the bracket was attached. Then
again, it must be ok - I've never heard of one falling off or
loosening up.

Another thing that was interesting was when they unloaded the boat
from the trailer to a rolling stand - it slipped back a little and the
engine hit the floor - the bracket flexed a little. I wonder if
that's a design feature for hard hits on underwater objects?

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Anyway...

Hanging off the bracket, the engine doesn't look at large as it does
just sitting on the stand - in fact, it was a 25" shaft engine and I
measured it from skeg to top of the hood - it's not taller than my 25"
ETEC 200 HO - it is a little wider.

Under the hood - wow. There is a lot of technology there - it looked
as complicated as my ETEC. I talked to the dealer's head mechanic -
he was pretty honest in his evaluation. It has some good points, it
has some bad points - mostly related to acceleration compared to
Optimax, ETEC and Verado. According to him, fuel economy is
reasonable for it's size but you can't make a direct comparison
because of it's size. Which is a good point.

There were some boats there that were new to me - different in that
they had some rather intriguing lines and different approaches to
"multi-purpose". I can't remember all the different names - I'm going
back on Saturday for the whole day - half "on duty" and half on my own
to wander around - I'll get details then.

Long day, tiring day, but way cool looking at all the boats.

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Why Parker doesn't put some styling on their boats is beyond me - in
particular for the money they want for it. Thing looks like somebody
put a box on top of a box with a pointy thing at one end then painted
it one solid color of dull beige.


I'm sure if you begged, Parker would metalflake a hull, put stripes on
the cabin, and maybe add tailfins on the gunnels. Then you would have
yourself a boat as stylish as...a Ranger. :}


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On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:39:10 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Why Parker doesn't put some styling on their boats is beyond me - in
particular for the money they want for it. Thing looks like somebody
put a box on top of a box with a pointy thing at one end then painted
it one solid color of dull beige.

I'm sure if you begged, Parker would metalflake a hull, put stripes on
the cabin, and maybe add tailfins on the gunnels. Then you would have
yourself a boat as stylish as...a Ranger. :}

Here's a Parker.

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa....jsp?boatid=17

Here's a similar Steiger.

http://steigercraft.com/main/docs/bo....cfm?boatid=45

Ain't no comparison - the Steiger has some style and flair to it.

Even in monochrome.

Boats, boats and more boats...
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:39:10 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Why Parker doesn't put some styling on their boats is beyond me - in
particular for the money they want for it. Thing looks like somebody
put a box on top of a box with a pointy thing at one end then painted
it one solid color of dull beige.
I'm sure if you begged, Parker would metalflake a hull, put stripes on
the cabin, and maybe add tailfins on the gunnels. Then you would have
yourself a boat as stylish as...a Ranger. :}

Here's a Parker.

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa....jsp?boatid=17

Here's a similar Steiger.

http://steigercraft.com/main/docs/bo....cfm?boatid=45

Ain't no comparison - the Steiger has some style and flair to it.

Even in monochrome.



And much, much less quality where it counts. I've seen Steigers and
Parkers side by side and have crawled aboard both. But some buyers are
interested in flash, and others are not.

Boats, boats and more boats...
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:39:10 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Why Parker doesn't put some styling on their boats is beyond me - in
particular for the money they want for it. Thing looks like somebody
put a box on top of a box with a pointy thing at one end then painted
it one solid color of dull beige.
I'm sure if you begged, Parker would metalflake a hull, put stripes on
the cabin, and maybe add tailfins on the gunnels. Then you would have
yourself a boat as stylish as...a Ranger. :}

Here's a Parker.

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa....jsp?boatid=17

Here's a similar Steiger.

http://steigercraft.com/main/docs/bo....cfm?boatid=45

Ain't no comparison - the Steiger has some style and flair to it.

Even in monochrome.



And much, much less quality where it counts. I've seen Steigers and
Parkers side by side and have crawled aboard both. But some buyers are
interested in flash, and others are not.


It would be interesting to see an honest, head to head evaluation by a
knowledgeable reviewer.
What stood out to me was the Parker's 16 degree versus 21 degree deadrise on
the Steiger.

It would be interesting to see how they each handled the same seas.

Eisboch

Boats, boats and more boats...
 

On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:10:46 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:39:10 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Why Parker doesn't put some styling on their boats is beyond me - in
particular for the money they want for it. Thing looks like somebody
put a box on top of a box with a pointy thing at one end then painted
it one solid color of dull beige.
I'm sure if you begged, Parker would metalflake a hull, put stripes on
the cabin, and maybe add tailfins on the gunnels. Then you would have
yourself a boat as stylish as...a Ranger. :}

Here's a Parker.

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa....jsp?boatid=17

Here's a similar Steiger.

http://steigercraft.com/main/docs/bo....cfm?boatid=45

Ain't no comparison - the Steiger has some style and flair to it.

Even in monochrome.

And much, much less quality where it counts.

Oh give it up Harry. Steigers are a high quality boat.

I've seen Steigers and Parkers side by side and have crawled aboard both.

So have I.

Steigers are the equal of a Parker in every sense with one exception.

They have some style.

But some buyers are interested in flash, and others are not.

Parker owners have no sense of style. :)

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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:39:10 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Why Parker doesn't put some styling on their boats is beyond me - in
particular for the money they want for it. Thing looks like somebody
put a box on top of a box with a pointy thing at one end then painted
it one solid color of dull beige.
I'm sure if you begged, Parker would metalflake a hull, put stripes on
the cabin, and maybe add tailfins on the gunnels. Then you would have
yourself a boat as stylish as...a Ranger. :}
Here's a Parker.

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa....jsp?boatid=17

Here's a similar Steiger.

http://steigercraft.com/main/docs/bo....cfm?boatid=45

Ain't no comparison - the Steiger has some style and flair to it.

Even in monochrome.


And much, much less quality where it counts. I've seen Steigers and
Parkers side by side and have crawled aboard both. But some buyers are
interested in flash, and others are not.


It would be interesting to see an honest, head to head evaluation by a
knowledgeable reviewer.
What stood out to me was the Parker's 16 degree versus 21 degree deadrise on
the Steiger.

It would be interesting to see how they each handled the same seas.

Eisboch




Parker offers different boats with different amounts of deadrise, as
does Steiger. They are direct competitors.

Boats, boats and more boats...
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:10:46 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:39:10 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Why Parker doesn't put some styling on their boats is beyond me - in
particular for the money they want for it. Thing looks like somebody
put a box on top of a box with a pointy thing at one end then painted
it one solid color of dull beige.
I'm sure if you begged, Parker would metalflake a hull, put stripes on
the cabin, and maybe add tailfins on the gunnels. Then you would have
yourself a boat as stylish as...a Ranger. :}
Here's a Parker.

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa....jsp?boatid=17

Here's a similar Steiger.

http://steigercraft.com/main/docs/bo....cfm?boatid=45

Ain't no comparison - the Steiger has some style and flair to it.

Even in monochrome.
And much, much less quality where it counts.

Oh give it up Harry. Steigers are a high quality boat.

I've seen Steigers and Parkers side by side and have crawled aboard both.

So have I.

Steigers are the equal of a Parker in every sense with one exception.

They have some style.

But some buyers are interested in flash, and others are not.

Parker owners have no sense of style. :)

Well, that part of your statement may be true.

Boats, boats and more boats...
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:39:10 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Why Parker doesn't put some styling on their boats is beyond me - in
particular for the money they want for it. Thing looks like somebody
put a box on top of a box with a pointy thing at one end then painted
it one solid color of dull beige.
I'm sure if you begged, Parker would metalflake a hull, put stripes on
the cabin, and maybe add tailfins on the gunnels. Then you would have
yourself a boat as stylish as...a Ranger. :}
Here's a Parker.

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa....jsp?boatid=17

Here's a similar Steiger.

http://steigercraft.com/main/docs/bo....cfm?boatid=45

Ain't no comparison - the Steiger has some style and flair to it.

Even in monochrome.


And much, much less quality where it counts. I've seen Steigers and
Parkers side by side and have crawled aboard both. But some buyers are
interested in flash, and others are not.


It would be interesting to see an honest, head to head evaluation by a
knowledgeable reviewer.
What stood out to me was the Parker's 16 degree versus 21 degree deadrise
on the Steiger.

It would be interesting to see how they each handled the same seas.

Eisboch


Parker offers different boats with different amounts of deadrise, as does
Steiger. They are direct competitors.

I understand. But the two 25 footers in discussion are only 2" different in
LOA and are of the same style.

Or are you saying that both build 25 footers with different deadrise
options? I doubt it.

Eisboch

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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:39:10 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Why Parker doesn't put some styling on their boats is beyond me - in
particular for the money they want for it. Thing looks like somebody
put a box on top of a box with a pointy thing at one end then painted
it one solid color of dull beige.
I'm sure if you begged, Parker would metalflake a hull, put stripes on
the cabin, and maybe add tailfins on the gunnels. Then you would have
yourself a boat as stylish as...a Ranger. :}
Here's a Parker.

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa....jsp?boatid=17

Here's a similar Steiger.

http://steigercraft.com/main/docs/bo....cfm?boatid=45

Ain't no comparison - the Steiger has some style and flair to it.

Even in monochrome.

And much, much less quality where it counts. I've seen Steigers and
Parkers side by side and have crawled aboard both. But some buyers are
interested in flash, and others are not.

It would be interesting to see an honest, head to head evaluation by a
knowledgeable reviewer.
What stood out to me was the Parker's 16 degree versus 21 degree deadrise
on the Steiger.

It would be interesting to see how they each handled the same seas.

Eisboch

Parker offers different boats with different amounts of deadrise, as does
Steiger. They are direct competitors.

I understand. But the two 25 footers in discussion are only 2" different in
LOA and are of the same style.

Or are you saying that both build 25 footers with different deadrise
options? I doubt it.

Eisboch




Yeah, Parker does. I believe Steiger does, too. In fact, Steiger only
recently started building hulls with 21 degrees of deadrise.

But you are entitled to your doubts.