http://tinyurl.com/27zy8v

--

"All simulations are wrong, some are useful"
Barry Gilbert

"Simulation is a lot like masturbation, if you do it enough
it starts to feel like the real thing"
Bud Bennet

On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 23:15:07 -0800, -rick- wrote:


http://tinyurl.com/27zy8v

"Evidence includes increases in global average air and ocean
temperatures,"

Got about as far as that and gave up.

Ain't no such thing as average global average air and ocean
temperatures.

On Jan 7, 6:20*am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 23:15:07 -0800, -rick- wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/27zy8v

"Evidence includes increases in global average air and ocean
temperatures,"

Got about as far as that and gave up.

Ain't no such thing as average global average air and ocean
temperatures.

Sure there is.

On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 05:26:58 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Jan 7, 6:20*am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 23:15:07 -0800, -rick- wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/27zy8v

"Evidence includes increases in global average air and ocean
temperatures,"

Got about as far as that and gave up.

Ain't no such thing as average global average air and ocean
temperatures.

Sure there is.

No, there isn't.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Jan 7, 9:00*am, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 05:26:58 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Jan 7, 6:20*am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 23:15:07 -0800, -rick- wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/27zy8v

"Evidence includes increases in global average air and ocean
temperatures,"

Got about as far as that and gave up.

Ain't no such thing as average global average air and ocean
temperatures.

Sure there is.

No, there isn't.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Well, no, there is no "average global average" but there is, easily
global average air and ocean temperatures. Anything can be averaged if
there is more than one data set.

On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 07:00:13 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Jan 7, 9:00*am, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 05:26:58 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Jan 7, 6:20*am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 23:15:07 -0800, -rick- wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/27zy8v

"Evidence includes increases in global average air and ocean
temperatures,"

Got about as far as that and gave up.

Ain't no such thing as average global average air and ocean
temperatures.

Sure there is.

No, there isn't.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Well, no, there is no "average global average" but there is, easily
global average air and ocean temperatures. Anything can be averaged if
there is more than one data set.

The average of a set of data points is just that. The average of 500
thermometer readings at a single point in time is just that, not the
average temperature of the earth.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 05:26:58 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Jan 7, 6:20*am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 23:15:07 -0800, -rick- wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/27zy8v

"Evidence includes increases in global average air and ocean
temperatures,"

Got about as far as that and gave up.

Ain't no such thing as average global average air and ocean
temperatures.

Sure there is.

Prove it.

On Jan 7, 11:32*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 05:26:58 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Jan 7, 6:20*am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 23:15:07 -0800, -rick- wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/27zy8v

"Evidence includes increases in global average air and ocean
temperatures,"

Got about as far as that and gave up.

Ain't no such thing as average global average air and ocean
temperatures.

Sure there is.

Prove it.

If you don't think someone can take data sets and provide an "average"
you certainly can't be shown much, Tom.

On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 10:19:03 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Jan 7, 11:32*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 05:26:58 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Jan 7, 6:20*am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 23:15:07 -0800, -rick- wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/27zy8v

"Evidence includes increases in global average air and ocean
temperatures,"

Got about as far as that and gave up.

Ain't no such thing as average global average air and ocean
temperatures.

Sure there is.

Prove it.

If you don't think someone can take data sets and provide an "average"
you certainly can't be shown much, Tom.

I'll ask you again - prove it.

Hint 1: infinite variables.

Hint 2: It's 25 degrees in Fairbanks and 25 degrees at McMurdo -
what's the average?

Hint 3: You can only develop an accurate data set by averaging
discrete temperatures every square mile of the Earth. That would be
approximately 197,000,000 data reporting instruments.

Hint 4: Account for data variations due to weather, time (more than 50
years), natural diaster and incidents.

Hint 5: What method of averaging would you use? (Sub Hint: There are
as many variations of averaging as there are number sets.)

Hint 6: What is the average phone number nationally?

Get back to me when you can.