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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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There's no conflict in the two statements. Obama isn't shoveling
religion, and neither did Lincoln or King. Bryan, of course, did.


Is Huckabee?

Eisboch


It's his sponsors. They poisoned him. Hmm....interesting theory. Who do
his sponsors really want?


Hmmmm. "His sponsors". So, it's not Huckabee you dislike or distrust.
It's those nameless "sponsors". Now, who would *they* be?

Oh, I know! Keith Olberman told me. It's those pesky evangelicals. They
do it everytime.
I wonder if Huckabee is aware of this?

Eisboch

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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There's no conflict in the two statements. Obama isn't shoveling
religion, and neither did Lincoln or King. Bryan, of course, did.


Is Huckabee?

Eisboch


It's his sponsors. They poisoned him. Hmm....interesting theory. Who do
his sponsors really want?


Hmmmm. "His sponsors". So, it's not Huckabee you dislike or distrust.
It's those nameless "sponsors". Now, who would *they* be?

Oh, I know! Keith Olberman told me. It's those pesky evangelicals.
They do it everytime.
I wonder if Huckabee is aware of this?

Eisboch



"This God stuff isn't just talk with Huck. One of his first acts as governor
was to block Medicaid from funding an abortion for a mentally retarded
teen*ager who had been raped by her stepfather — an act in direct violation
of federal law, which requires states to pay for abortions in cases of rape.
"The state didn't fund a single such abortion while Huckabee was governor,"
says Dr. William Harrison of the Fayetteville Women's Clinic. "Zero."

As president, Huck would support a constitutional amendment banning abortion
and would give science a back seat to religion. "Science changes with every
generation and with new discoveries, and God doesn't," he says. "So I'll
stick with God if the two are in conflict." Huckabee's
well-documented *disdain for science was reflected in the performance of the
Arkansas school system when he was governor; one independent survey gave the
state an F for its science standards in schools, a grade that among other
things reflected Huckabee's hostility toward the teaching of evolution.

Huckabee at most times is gentle and self-deprecating in his public address,
but when he talks about religion, he gets weirdly combative and obnoxious,
often drifting into outright offensiveness. At one appearance, Huckabee —
who's been known to make fart jokes in front of the state legislature — said
he would oppose gay marriage "until Moses comes down with two stone tablets
from Brokeback Mountain saying he's changed the rules." And he recently
scored a rare offend trifecta, simultaneously ****ing off immigrants, Jews
and the pro-choice crowd when he ludicrously claimed that a "holocaust" of
abortions had *artificially created a demand for Mexican labor.

Huckabee also has a televangelist's knack for getting caught with his
fingers in various cookie jars. In his first year as governor, Huck used a
$60,000 tax*payer fund for personal expenses like dog food, pantyhose and
meals at Taco Bell. (One of his sons — also a very heavy man, as his *father
was — reportedly joked that "there's not a Huckabee alive that can eat at
Taco Bell for seven dollars.") The governor also tried to keep $70,000 in
furnishings for the governor's mansion supplied by a local cotton grower,
and used inaugural funds to pay for clothes for his wife. "Mike is first and
foremost about Mike," says Brantley. "He'll nickel-and-dime whoever he can
to line his pockets." "

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HK wrote:
Jim wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 17:45:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

Seems to be more to this than meets the eye.

http://tinyurl.com/2wkmqt

Ah nuts - I was setting Doug up for just this - I was just trying to
work through his prejudices first. :)

Oh well...


http://tinyurl.com/2rjlka


--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

Sooooo Harry. What's in your wallet? (Snerk)


A photo of a young girl you'd recognize if you knew her back then?

(snerk)


Harry, Unless they are their grandkids, I don't know any old men who
carry a photo of a young girl in their wallet. That really does sound
like a pedophile.

Do you know this person:
http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/off...personId=14243

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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 18:39:54 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:




What's not to like about Chuck Norris movies. Lots of action, lots of
explosions. Good guy movie. No Jeff Gordon movie. Seagal was good,
before
he decided he could write and direct movies. Van Damme, movies. Just
SUX.
Jackie Chan is a good comedian. And I like good comedians.

Hey, Van Damme always had a naked butt scene and the girls in the
house must have found it titillating.
IMO, just about any episode of the "A-Team" had more good stuff than a
Norris movie. Peppard saying "I love it when a plan comes together"
displayed more acting talent than the entire cast of a Norris movie
saying all their lines. But maybe I wasn't paying close attention.

--Vic

Did not say Chuck was an actor. Just said it had great action scenes.

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On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 22:39:19 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

Chuck's movies are intended as comedy.

Thug: You don't belong here.
Chuck: If I want your opinion, I'll beat it out of you.


For martial arts, I prefer Bruce Lee, and any number of Japanese or
Chinese movies.


You're spending too much time with old people. Tony Jaa is now the
reigning king.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M__9ZmCFNeU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsJ5s...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aZaE...eature=related

I've only seen a couple in the last few years. I prefer the "mystical"
martial arts movies...Crouching Tiger or one whose name escapes me at the
moment. I did like Fist of Legend (Jet Li) and of course Fist of Legend,
with the master, Bruce Lee.

Is that the one that's dubbed in English?

Ah yes - the classic joke - Asian bad guy goes into long speech and
the english is dubbed as "Yes". :)

Ever see "What's Up, Tiger Lily"?"

Hysterical.

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On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 21:31:41 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Saw it once, but it was commercial TV, so it was "spotty."
I'll put it on the Netflix list, which BTW finally came through with
Army of Darkness, your recommendation a while back.
Excellent! Shall I say "off the wall?"

Definetly a guy flick.

Bruce Campbell is vastly under appreciated. He and I share the same
odd ball sense of humor.

If you can find it, get "If Chins Could Kill: Confessions of a B
Movie Actor". It's a great read and you get some very interesting
insight to the workings of Hollywood.

Not to mention, it's really funny.

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On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 23:01:58 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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We've already seen what happens when a president uses faith instead of
reason to formulate policy.

You are not aware of this defect, but other people are.

Ever been in an airplane and suddenly the lights dim, the plane banks
sharply and the engines cut out?

Betcha find religion real fast.

Eisboch (just a joke)

No - it's not a joke - it's a fact.

I've seen it happen to some very hardcore athesists.

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On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 23:15:16 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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I was going to ask if you were OK with religion getting too involved with
government, but I forgot something: You'll never provide a straight answer
to that question.

I love this kind of debate technique. Make a statement as if it were fact,
then question the answer to a baseless question assuming that fact.

Doug is very good at it, but when you pin him down, it's just all
narcissistic strut. Ever notice that when he gets pinned into a
corner, he tries to shift the discussion in a new direction? Or he'll
turn the discussion into a snark fest?

I used to think Doug had a solid streak of intellectual curiosity in
him - now I know better - he's just another prejudiced self-hating
social misfit who can't get along with anybody.

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On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 03:26:37 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 20:03:28 -0500, HK wrote:


Besides, Obama merely attends the church; he isn't its pastor or its
former pastor, nor is he out praising Jesus or thanking heaven on a
public, daily basis for his political successes.

"Moreover, it's wrong to ask believers to leave their religion at the
door before entering the public square. Abraham Lincoln, William
Jennings Bryan, Martin Luther King Jr. - indeed, the majority of great
reformers in American history - were not only motivated by faith, they
also used religious language to argue for their cause. To say men and
women should not inject their "personal morality" into policy debates
is a practical absurdity; our law is by definition a codification of
morality."

Barak Obama, USA Today, 7/10/2006

Let's debate this: Without the ten commandments, absolutely nobody would
know that murder is wrong.

Nobody. No exceptions. Period.

I'm sorry Doug - I'm tired of you and your bull****.

Go play fake intellectual games with somebody else.

I'm out.

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"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
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HK wrote:
Jim wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 17:45:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

Seems to be more to this than meets the eye.

http://tinyurl.com/2wkmqt

Ah nuts - I was setting Doug up for just this - I was just trying to
work through his prejudices first. :)

Oh well...


http://tinyurl.com/2rjlka


--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

Sooooo Harry. What's in your wallet? (Snerk)


A photo of a young girl you'd recognize if you knew her back then?

(snerk)


Harry, Unless they are their grandkids, I don't know any old men who
carry a photo of a young girl in their wallet. That really does sound
like a pedophile.

Do you know this person:
http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/off...personId=14243

This guy is about the right age to be a product of the union between Harry
and that 14 year old child he claims to have molested.