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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... I think you're correct that fear and inability to face their own or loved ones mortality is behind a lot of religious belief. For certain personalities, I would agree. However, belief in an afterlife and belief in a Creator don't necessarily go hand-in-hand. I think it's just as difficult to believe in "nothing" as it is to believe in "something" .... maybe even more difficult. To believe in something is the default condition of the human mind I suspect, regardless of any religious brain washing that occurs during a lifetime. When my head is in logic mode none of the religious teachings and/or explanations make any sense in terms of creation. I can even understand and accept the concept of "nothing" after death. But, where the heck did that super compressed, fantastically dense matter the size of a sub-atomic particle that exploded as the "Big Bang", resulting in the universe and everything in it come from? That "nothing" is beyond my comprehension so far. Meanwhile, religion serves many people well and I, for one, have no problem with that. I respect the right to their beliefs. There's another current issue somewhat related to this, but I'll present that in another post sometime. Eisboch |
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On Jan 5, 10:33*am, JG2U wrote:
On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 23:03:01 -0600, Vic Smith wrote: On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 11:34:43 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Yep - that one surprized me that's for sure. *What interests me is that Huckabee would be the ideal Democrat candidate. *What he proposes isn't conservative Republican in any sense of the word. *I think he was selected on the strength of his faith and his pro-life stance - in ever other aspect, he's a Democrat. He was selected because he exudes decency and leadership. There is no such thing as "conservative Republican." *That's a term ideologues use for different purposes, and with different motives. Don't know what kind of Prez he would be, but I like Huckabee. I'm not religious, but have no fear of Huckabee. We share many values. *Any* major candidate of either party - excepting Guiliani - will be a vast improvement over those currently in power. The only one that gives me pause is Obama, because he might have Snoop Doggy Dog performing at White House events that I could stumble upon watching television. *I generally don't like rap music. * --Vic And he's a proven liar. *Ever seen the speech he gave at that Alabama church picked apart? *Obama stood in church and lied repeatedly about his father's and his own life's events, timelines, etc. *All just to fit in with the occasion and to pander to the congregation. The guy presents well, but he's a bit slimey. *But pretty much all of them are. *Some much more than others. ------------------------ The Billary Whitehouse. *The most sold-out in history! (sorry freakin)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ;) it is open intellectual property... I |
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On Jan 5, 10:33*am, HK wrote:
JG2U wrote: On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 02:01:10 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould wrote: If you read all the way to the bottom of the item, you'll see that your link actually validates my point about some Christians who describe themselvs as "evangelical" (including the Methodist preacher quoted) having difficulty with Romney's Mormon faith. From your link: Evangelicals are hugely influential in the Iowa caucuses, making up by some estimates some 40 percent of Republican caucus-goers. Many of them, however, have profound reservations about Mr. Romney's Mormon faith. Mr. Hurd, the pastor of West Hill United Methodist Church here who identified himself as an evangelical, said he wrestled with that issue himself but decided in the end it should not matter in his decision. "Although they have a theology vastly different from mine, Mormons generally are good citizens," he said. Mr. Hurd also offered some insight into where his fellow Alliance board members are leaning. He said they are mainly divided between Mr. Romney and Mr. Huckabee, with the latter probably holding the edge. "A lot of them are troubled by his Mormon religion," he said. "That's probably the difference." ******* So there's a statement, by an Iowa pastor describing himself as "evangelical", confirming that many Christians of his acquaintance are "troubled by (Romney's) Mormon religion." Not quite... there are no quotes around evangelical in the article. So it didn't come out of his mouth, but probably went something like this: "Do you evangelize as part of your faith?" "Yes." "So would you consider yourself an evangelical Christian?" "I suppose." My whole point continues to be that it is the *media* who seems to find the labels "evangelical" and "fundamentalist" (which *you* improperly used) important, not Christians themselves. And also that there are Christians who do not have a problem with the Mormon faith. *Sure some do, but there are groups who are opposed to Romney for other reasons as well. *So? *Weird people everywhere. twisted logic deleted Huckabee is a perfect match for the GOP base.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No he is not... you just want him in because your candidates are so weak... |
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Eisboch wrote:
But, where the heck did that super compressed, fantastically dense matter the size of a sub-atomic particle that exploded as the "Big Bang", resulting in the universe and everything in it come from? That "nothing" is beyond my comprehension so far. The big bang would definitely qualify as a "greater power". |
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On Jan 6, 6:01*pm, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 01:01:40 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote: Do you know this person: *http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/off...personId=14243 Not cool Reg. What would you expect from Reggie? Coolness? He's an a**hole, and has been since his first day here under his older "non-Reggie" identities. -- George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever! And yet, you are the only one here who has been caught having a conv with himself with a spoofed id... Remember the Lobsta' Boat... |
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... "-rick-" wrote in message . .. I think you're correct that fear and inability to face their own or loved ones mortality is behind a lot of religious belief. I think you just hit the nail on the head, rick. It's the common thread throughout all the world's religions. Eisboch That, and the fact that some people are very uncomfortable if they don't have answers to all of life's questions. So, they answer them by assigning yet another mystery. |
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On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 06:50:34 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
But, where the heck did that super compressed, fantastically dense matter the size of a sub-atomic particle that exploded as the "Big Bang", resulting in the universe and everything in it come from? That "nothing" is beyond my comprehension so far. I agree. Somebody had to light the match. :) |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 06:50:34 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: But, where the heck did that super compressed, fantastically dense matter the size of a sub-atomic particle that exploded as the "Big Bang", resulting in the universe and everything in it come from? That "nothing" is beyond my comprehension so far. I agree. Somebody had to light the match. :) Even Einstein couldn't answer that one. Hey, next time you a chatting with some of your "other world" friends, run it by them and find out what their take is on the question. Eisboch |
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On Jan 7, 7:47*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:m574o31eio7s75uodnjfk8qlqdd3383udp@4ax .com... On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 06:50:34 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: But, where the heck did that super compressed, fantastically dense matter the size of a sub-atomic particle that exploded as the "Big Bang", resulting in the universe and everything in it come from? * That "nothing" is beyond my comprehension so far. I agree. Somebody had to light the match. *:) Even Einstein couldn't answer that one. Hey, next time you a chatting with some of your "other world" friends, run it by them and find out what their take is on the question. Eisboch Heh,,, they think it was Tom.;) |
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wrote in message ... On Jan 7, 7:47 am, "Eisboch" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:m574o31eio7s75uodnjfk8qlqdd3383udp@4ax .com... On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 06:50:34 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: But, where the heck did that super compressed, fantastically dense matter the size of a sub-atomic particle that exploded as the "Big Bang", resulting in the universe and everything in it come from? That "nothing" is beyond my comprehension so far. I agree. Somebody had to light the match. :) Even Einstein couldn't answer that one. Hey, next time you a chatting with some of your "other world" friends, run it by them and find out what their take is on the question. Eisboch Heh,,, they think it was Tom.;) Tomdamm! Eisboch |
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On Jan 7, 7:56*am, HK wrote:
Are you on consciousness-altering drugs? Is that all you ever say? Billary, the most sold out Whitehouse in history... |
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... On Jan 7, 7:56 am, HK wrote: Are you on consciousness-altering drugs? Is that all you ever say? ==================== He's right, though. The Republican "base" gave us the president who says things like "Natural gas is hemispheric. I like to call it hemispheric." You are the base. Huckabee believes the earth is 6000 years old, and apparently didn't know humans were primates until recently. You like uneducated fools, so you will probably vote for him. He won't make you feel smart. |
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On Jan 7, 8:05*am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Jan 7, 7:56 am, HK wrote: Are you on consciousness-altering drugs? Is that all you ever say? ==================== He's right, though. The Republican "base" gave us the president who says things like "Natural gas is hemispheric. I like to call it hemispheric." You are the base. Huckabee believes the earth is 6000 years old, and apparently didn't know humans were primates until recently. You like uneducated fools, so you will probably vote for him. He won't make you feel smart. You are out of your frekin' mind... I don't even support Huck, but you just keep making it up as you go along. |
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... On Jan 7, 8:05 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 7, 7:56 am, HK wrote: Are you on consciousness-altering drugs? Is that all you ever say? ==================== He's right, though. The Republican "base" gave us the president who says things like "Natural gas is hemispheric. I like to call it hemispheric." You are the base. Huckabee believes the earth is 6000 years old, and apparently didn't know humans were primates until recently. You like uneducated fools, so you will probably vote for him. He won't make you feel smart. You are out of your frekin' mind... I don't even support Huck, but you just keep making it up as you go along. ======================= I'll wager that if he's the Republican candidate next November, you'll vote for him. |
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If there is a rat infestation in "Charle's" garage, it's because he impregnated a female rat. In his garage. OK, Shortwave, there you are. An fresh accusation of bestiality from krause. Let's see what you do. -- Charlie |
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On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 08:32:08 -0500, HK wrote:
wrote: On Jan 7, 7:56 am, HK wrote: Are you on consciousness-altering drugs? Is that all you ever say? In response to your comment that the Democratic candidates are weak, implying the Republican candidates have something to offer? Yeah, I think you are are consciousness-altering drugs. The only capable candidate on the GOP side is McCain, and while he likely will win the New Hampshire primary, he hasn't the funds to go much farther. I'm pulling for the candidate from Jesusville. Nothing could be better for the Democrats than a simple-minded, ignorant of foreign policy, backwards looking evangelical as the Republican nominee. 'Jesusville'? Does the blatant disrespect make you more endearing to some, Harry? Not cool. JimH - This is your hero talking! -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
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On Jan 7, 8:30*am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Jan 7, 8:05 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 7, 7:56 am, HK wrote: Are you on consciousness-altering drugs? Is that all you ever say? ==================== He's right, though. The Republican "base" gave us the president who says things like "Natural gas is hemispheric. I like to call it hemispheric." You are the base. Huckabee believes the earth is 6000 years old, and apparently didn't know humans were primates until recently. You like uneducated fools, so you will probably vote for him. He won't make you feel smart. You are out of your frekin' mind... I don't even support Huck, but you just keep making it up as you go along. ======================= I'll wager that if he's the Republican candidate next November, you'll vote for him.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Uh, you don't have a very good track record when it comes to wagers.. Sorry, but I don't gamble anyway... |
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... On Jan 7, 8:30 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 7, 8:05 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 7, 7:56 am, HK wrote: Are you on consciousness-altering drugs? Is that all you ever say? ==================== He's right, though. The Republican "base" gave us the president who says things like "Natural gas is hemispheric. I like to call it hemispheric." You are the base. Huckabee believes the earth is 6000 years old, and apparently didn't know humans were primates until recently. You like uneducated fools, so you will probably vote for him. He won't make you feel smart. You are out of your frekin' mind... I don't even support Huck, but you just keep making it up as you go along. ======================= I'll wager that if he's the Republican candidate next November, you'll vote for him.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Uh, you don't have a very good track record when it comes to wagers.. Sorry, but I don't gamble anyway... ===================== You gamble every time you try to write. |
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On Jan 7, 9:19*am, HK wrote:
wrote: On Jan 7, 8:30 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message .... On Jan 7, 8:05 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message .... On Jan 7, 7:56 am, HK wrote: Are you on consciousness-altering drugs? Is that all you ever say? ==================== He's right, though. The Republican "base" gave us the president who says things like "Natural gas is hemispheric. I like to call it hemispheric.." You are the base. Huckabee believes the earth is 6000 years old, and apparently didn't know humans were primates until recently. You like uneducated fools, so you will probably vote for him. He won't make you feel smart. You are out of your frekin' mind... I don't even support Huck, but you just keep making it up as you go along. ======================= I'll wager that if he's the Republican candidate next November, you'll vote for him.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Uh, you don't have a very good track record when it comes to wagers.. Sorry, but I don't gamble anyway... Are you sure you didn't gamble your future on this? http://tinyurl.com/3xcebr -- Billary, the most sold out Whitehouse in history. - Show quoted text - ?? Dumb picture, I like this one. http://www.blackfive.net/photos/unca...3944z004lr.jpg Did you and your "buddies" wear eye black yesterday at your "private party"?? |
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On Jan 7, 9:19 am, HK wrote: wrote: On Jan 7, 8:30 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 7, 8:05 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 7, 7:56 am, HK wrote: Are you on consciousness-altering drugs? Is that all you ever say? ==================== He's right, though. The Republican "base" gave us the president who says things like "Natural gas is hemispheric. I like to call it hemispheric." You are the base. Huckabee believes the earth is 6000 years old, and apparently didn't know humans were primates until recently. You like uneducated fools, so you will probably vote for him. He won't make you feel smart. You are out of your frekin' mind... I don't even support Huck, but you just keep making it up as you go along. ======================= I'll wager that if he's the Republican candidate next November, you'll vote for him.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Uh, you don't have a very good track record when it comes to wagers.. Sorry, but I don't gamble anyway... Are you sure you didn't gamble your future on this? http://tinyurl.com/3xcebr -- Billary, the most sold out Whitehouse in history. - Show quoted text - ?? Dumb picture, I like this one. http://www.blackfive.net/photos/unca...3944z004lr.jpg Did you and your "buddies" wear eye black yesterday at your "private party"?? Naw. I may feed my raccoon neighbors, but that doesn't mean I want to be one. -- George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever! |
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?? Dumb picture, I like this one. http://www.blackfive.net/photos/unca...3944z004lr.jpg Did you and your "buddies" wear eye black yesterday at your "private party"?? If you were with a friend called Stumpie, you know you would have a good time. I do think it is cute that Harry was willing to give up his 50 yr stance against firearms, ridiculing those who owned a guy as having small penis's, especially those who like to talk about guns, just to be able to play with Stumpie. |
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On Jan 7, 8:05*am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Jan 7, 7:56 am, HK wrote: Are you on consciousness-altering drugs? Is that all you ever say? ==================== He's right, though. The Republican "base" gave us the president who says things like "Natural gas is hemispheric. I like to call it hemispheric." You are the base. Huckabee believes the earth is 6000 years old, and apparently didn't know humans were primates until recently. You like uneducated fools, so you will probably vote for him. He won't make you feel smart. Huck also said in the last debate that he wanted to do MORE business with the Arab nations........ |
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... On Jan 7, 8:05 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 7, 7:56 am, HK wrote: Are you on consciousness-altering drugs? Is that all you ever say? ==================== He's right, though. The Republican "base" gave us the president who says things like "Natural gas is hemispheric. I like to call it hemispheric." You are the base. Huckabee believes the earth is 6000 years old, and apparently didn't know humans were primates until recently. You like uneducated fools, so you will probably vote for him. He won't make you feel smart. Huck also said in the last debate that he wanted to do MORE business with the Arab nations........ ==================== What do YOU think about that? |
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wrote in message ... On Jan 7, 8:05 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 7, 7:56 am, HK wrote: Are you on consciousness-altering drugs? Is that all you ever say? ==================== He's right, though. The Republican "base" gave us the president who says things like "Natural gas is hemispheric. I like to call it hemispheric." You are the base. Huckabee believes the earth is 6000 years old, and apparently didn't know humans were primates until recently. You like uneducated fools, so you will probably vote for him. He won't make you feel smart. Huck also said in the last debate that he wanted to do MORE business with the Arab nations........ ==================== What do YOU think about that? It is the only thing in this entire thread that makes sense. |
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"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
. .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 7, 8:05 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 7, 7:56 am, HK wrote: Are you on consciousness-altering drugs? Is that all you ever say? ==================== He's right, though. The Republican "base" gave us the president who says things like "Natural gas is hemispheric. I like to call it hemispheric." You are the base. Huckabee believes the earth is 6000 years old, and apparently didn't know humans were primates until recently. You like uneducated fools, so you will probably vote for him. He won't make you feel smart. Huck also said in the last debate that he wanted to do MORE business with the Arab nations........ ==================== What do YOU think about that? It is the only thing in this entire thread that makes sense. Members of the Saudi royal family provide direct financial support for schools run by people who are as crazy as OBL. These schools turn out lots of young lunatics whose next adventure in life is to travel to countries like Iraq to attack our troops, and anyone else who doesn't see things their way. Our military commanders say 60% of foreign fighters come from Saudi Arabia. Members of the Saudi royal family receive their money from you and I. We should be doing as little business with them as possible. Unfortunately, we can't seem to stop. Other Arab countries....that's different. Maybe. |
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wrote: On Jan 7, 8:30 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 7, 8:05 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jan 7, 7:56 am, HK wrote: Are you on consciousness-altering drugs? Is that all you ever say? ==================== He's right, though. The Republican "base" gave us the president who says things like "Natural gas is hemispheric. I like to call it hemispheric." You are the base. Huckabee believes the earth is 6000 years old, and apparently didn't know humans were primates until recently. You like uneducated fools, so you will probably vote for him. He won't make you feel smart. You are out of your frekin' mind... I don't even support Huck, but you just keep making it up as you go along. ======================= I'll wager that if he's the Republican candidate next November, you'll vote for him.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Uh, you don't have a very good track record when it comes to wagers.. Sorry, but I don't gamble anyway... Are you sure you didn't gamble your future on this? http://tinyurl.com/3xcebr You anti business idiots should go live in a cage. |
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"HK" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: On Jan 5, 10:33 am, HK wrote: JG2U wrote: On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 02:01:10 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould wrote: If you read all the way to the bottom of the item, you'll see that your link actually validates my point about some Christians who describe themselvs as "evangelical" (including the Methodist preacher quoted) having difficulty with Romney's Mormon faith. From your link: Evangelicals are hugely influential in the Iowa caucuses, making up by some estimates some 40 percent of Republican caucus-goers. Many of them, however, have profound reservations about Mr. Romney's Mormon faith. Mr. Hurd, the pastor of West Hill United Methodist Church here who identified himself as an evangelical, said he wrestled with that issue himself but decided in the end it should not matter in his decision. "Although they have a theology vastly different from mine, Mormons generally are good citizens," he said. Mr. Hurd also offered some insight into where his fellow Alliance board members are leaning. He said they are mainly divided between Mr. Romney and Mr. Huckabee, with the latter probably holding the edge. "A lot of them are troubled by his Mormon religion," he said. "That's probably the difference." ******* So there's a statement, by an Iowa pastor describing himself as "evangelical", confirming that many Christians of his acquaintance are "troubled by (Romney's) Mormon religion." Not quite... there are no quotes around evangelical in the article. So it didn't come out of his mouth, but probably went something like this: "Do you evangelize as part of your faith?" "Yes." "So would you consider yourself an evangelical Christian?" "I suppose." My whole point continues to be that it is the *media* who seems to find the labels "evangelical" and "fundamentalist" (which *you* improperly used) important, not Christians themselves. And also that there are Christians who do not have a problem with the Mormon faith. Sure some do, but there are groups who are opposed to Romney for other reasons as well. So? Weird people everywhere. twisted logic deleted Huckabee is a perfect match for the GOP base.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No he is not... you just want him in because your candidates are so weak... Are you on consciousness-altering drugs? In the recently concluded Iowa caucuses, the Democratic candidates brought more than twice as many voters out on a cold night than the Republicans. I don't recall the exact count, but I believe the Dems had about 240,000 Iowans show up for caucus, while the Repugs had only about 115,000. And it was much more difficult and took much more time to vote in the Democratic caucuses. If the Democratic candidates were so weak, they wouldn't be outpolling the Republicans by such a substantial number. The only *decent* candidate on the GOP side is John McCain. Your hero, Huckabee the Evangelical, is a foreign policy numnutz. We've already had seven years of that with Bush. It isn't going to happen again. Most of that is how the Dem's set up their caucuses. What? Twice as many dems as repugs showed up because they were motivated, not because they had to. Are you drinking from Zell Miller's cup again? You drunk or all the lead from yesterdays shooting got to you? They run their caucuses different. |
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On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 20:47:19 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: On Jan 5, 10:33 am, HK wrote: JG2U wrote: On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 02:01:10 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould wrote: If you read all the way to the bottom of the item, you'll see that your link actually validates my point about some Christians who describe themselvs as "evangelical" (including the Methodist preacher quoted) having difficulty with Romney's Mormon faith. From your link: Evangelicals are hugely influential in the Iowa caucuses, making up by some estimates some 40 percent of Republican caucus-goers. Many of them, however, have profound reservations about Mr. Romney's Mormon faith. Mr. Hurd, the pastor of West Hill United Methodist Church here who identified himself as an evangelical, said he wrestled with that issue himself but decided in the end it should not matter in his decision. "Although they have a theology vastly different from mine, Mormons generally are good citizens," he said. Mr. Hurd also offered some insight into where his fellow Alliance board members are leaning. He said they are mainly divided between Mr. Romney and Mr. Huckabee, with the latter probably holding the edge. "A lot of them are troubled by his Mormon religion," he said. "That's probably the difference." ******* So there's a statement, by an Iowa pastor describing himself as "evangelical", confirming that many Christians of his acquaintance are "troubled by (Romney's) Mormon religion." Not quite... there are no quotes around evangelical in the article. So it didn't come out of his mouth, but probably went something like this: "Do you evangelize as part of your faith?" "Yes." "So would you consider yourself an evangelical Christian?" "I suppose." My whole point continues to be that it is the *media* who seems to find the labels "evangelical" and "fundamentalist" (which *you* improperly used) important, not Christians themselves. And also that there are Christians who do not have a problem with the Mormon faith. Sure some do, but there are groups who are opposed to Romney for other reasons as well. So? Weird people everywhere. twisted logic deleted Huckabee is a perfect match for the GOP base.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No he is not... you just want him in because your candidates are so weak... Are you on consciousness-altering drugs? In the recently concluded Iowa caucuses, the Democratic candidates brought more than twice as many voters out on a cold night than the Republicans. I don't recall the exact count, but I believe the Dems had about 240,000 Iowans show up for caucus, while the Repugs had only about 115,000. And it was much more difficult and took much more time to vote in the Democratic caucuses. If the Democratic candidates were so weak, they wouldn't be outpolling the Republicans by such a substantial number. The only *decent* candidate on the GOP side is John McCain. Your hero, Huckabee the Evangelical, is a foreign policy numnutz. We've already had seven years of that with Bush. It isn't going to happen again. Most of that is how the Dem's set up their caucuses. What? Twice as many dems as repugs showed up because they were motivated, not because they had to. Are you drinking from Zell Miller's cup again? You drunk or all the lead from yesterdays shooting got to you? They run their caucuses different. A bunch of young folks showed up from other states hoping to get laid.l -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
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On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 08:16:54 -0500, wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 07:56:24 -0500, John H. wrote: On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 20:47:19 -0800, "Calif Bill" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: On Jan 5, 10:33 am, HK wrote: JG2U wrote: On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 02:01:10 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould wrote: If you read all the way to the bottom of the item, you'll see that your link actually validates my point about some Christians who describe themselvs as "evangelical" (including the Methodist preacher quoted) having difficulty with Romney's Mormon faith. From your link: Evangelicals are hugely influential in the Iowa caucuses, making up by some estimates some 40 percent of Republican caucus-goers. Many of them, however, have profound reservations about Mr. Romney's Mormon faith. Mr. Hurd, the pastor of West Hill United Methodist Church here who identified himself as an evangelical, said he wrestled with that issue himself but decided in the end it should not matter in his decision. "Although they have a theology vastly different from mine, Mormons generally are good citizens," he said. Mr. Hurd also offered some insight into where his fellow Alliance board members are leaning. He said they are mainly divided between Mr. Romney and Mr. Huckabee, with the latter probably holding the edge. "A lot of them are troubled by his Mormon religion," he said. "That's probably the difference." ******* So there's a statement, by an Iowa pastor describing himself as "evangelical", confirming that many Christians of his acquaintance are "troubled by (Romney's) Mormon religion." Not quite... there are no quotes around evangelical in the article. So it didn't come out of his mouth, but probably went something like this: "Do you evangelize as part of your faith?" "Yes." "So would you consider yourself an evangelical Christian?" "I suppose." My whole point continues to be that it is the *media* who seems to find the labels "evangelical" and "fundamentalist" (which *you* improperly used) important, not Christians themselves. And also that there are Christians who do not have a problem with the Mormon faith. Sure some do, but there are groups who are opposed to Romney for other reasons as well. So? Weird people everywhere. twisted logic deleted Huckabee is a perfect match for the GOP base.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No he is not... you just want him in because your candidates are so weak... Are you on consciousness-altering drugs? In the recently concluded Iowa caucuses, the Democratic candidates brought more than twice as many voters out on a cold night than the Republicans. I don't recall the exact count, but I believe the Dems had about 240,000 Iowans show up for caucus, while the Repugs had only about 115,000. And it was much more difficult and took much more time to vote in the Democratic caucuses. If the Democratic candidates were so weak, they wouldn't be outpolling the Republicans by such a substantial number. The only *decent* candidate on the GOP side is John McCain. Your hero, Huckabee the Evangelical, is a foreign policy numnutz. We've already had seven years of that with Bush. It isn't going to happen again. Most of that is how the Dem's set up their caucuses. What? Twice as many dems as repugs showed up because they were motivated, not because they had to. Are you drinking from Zell Miller's cup again? You drunk or all the lead from yesterdays shooting got to you? They run their caucuses different. A bunch of young folks showed up from other states hoping to get laid.l So, you are saying that Young Republicans are Asexual? They don't have to hop on a bus and go to Iowa in hopes of getting laid. They do quite well at home. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
Handicapping Iowa...
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On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 08:43:06 -0500, John H. wrote: On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 08:16:54 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 07:56:24 -0500, John H. wrote: On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 20:47:19 -0800, "Calif Bill" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: On Jan 5, 10:33 am, HK wrote: JG2U wrote: On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 02:01:10 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould wrote: If you read all the way to the bottom of the item, you'll see that your link actually validates my point about some Christians who describe themselvs as "evangelical" (including the Methodist preacher quoted) having difficulty with Romney's Mormon faith. From your link: Evangelicals are hugely influential in the Iowa caucuses, making up by some estimates some 40 percent of Republican caucus-goers. Many of them, however, have profound reservations about Mr. Romney's Mormon faith. Mr. Hurd, the pastor of West Hill United Methodist Church here who identified himself as an evangelical, said he wrestled with that issue himself but decided in the end it should not matter in his decision. "Although they have a theology vastly different from mine, Mormons generally are good citizens," he said. Mr. Hurd also offered some insight into where his fellow Alliance board members are leaning. He said they are mainly divided between Mr. Romney and Mr. Huckabee, with the latter probably holding the edge. "A lot of them are troubled by his Mormon religion," he said. "That's probably the difference." ******* So there's a statement, by an Iowa pastor describing himself as "evangelical", confirming that many Christians of his acquaintance are "troubled by (Romney's) Mormon religion." Not quite... there are no quotes around evangelical in the article. So it didn't come out of his mouth, but probably went something like this: "Do you evangelize as part of your faith?" "Yes." "So would you consider yourself an evangelical Christian?" "I suppose." My whole point continues to be that it is the *media* who seems to find the labels "evangelical" and "fundamentalist" (which *you* improperly used) important, not Christians themselves. And also that there are Christians who do not have a problem with the Mormon faith. Sure some do, but there are groups who are opposed to Romney for other reasons as well. So? Weird people everywhere. twisted logic deleted Huckabee is a perfect match for the GOP base.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No he is not... you just want him in because your candidates are so weak... Are you on consciousness-altering drugs? In the recently concluded Iowa caucuses, the Democratic candidates brought more than twice as many voters out on a cold night than the Republicans. I don't recall the exact count, but I believe the Dems had about 240,000 Iowans show up for caucus, while the Repugs had only about 115,000. And it was much more difficult and took much more time to vote in the Democratic caucuses. If the Democratic candidates were so weak, they wouldn't be outpolling the Republicans by such a substantial number. The only *decent* candidate on the GOP side is John McCain. Your hero, Huckabee the Evangelical, is a foreign policy numnutz. We've already had seven years of that with Bush. It isn't going to happen again. Most of that is how the Dem's set up their caucuses. What? Twice as many dems as repugs showed up because they were motivated, not because they had to. Are you drinking from Zell Miller's cup again? You drunk or all the lead from yesterdays shooting got to you? They run their caucuses different. A bunch of young folks showed up from other states hoping to get laid.l So, you are saying that Young Republicans are Asexual? They don't have to hop on a bus and go to Iowa in hopes of getting laid. They do quite well at home. So, you are saying they are "stick in the muds" with no drive or curiosity about the outside world? Young Republicans in search of sex "do quite well at home." :} Vice is nice, but incest is best? Well, for Republicans, I suppose it beats hanging out at the men's room. |
Handicapping Iowa...
On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 08:47:48 -0500, wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 08:43:06 -0500, John H. wrote: On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 08:16:54 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 07:56:24 -0500, John H. wrote: On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 20:47:19 -0800, "Calif Bill" wrote: snipped You drunk or all the lead from yesterdays shooting got to you? They run their caucuses different. A bunch of young folks showed up from other states hoping to get laid.l So, you are saying that Young Republicans are Asexual? They don't have to hop on a bus and go to Iowa in hopes of getting laid. They do quite well at home. So, you are saying they are "stick in the muds" with no drive or curiosity about the outside world? Outside world? Iowa? I've been across Iowa north-south and east-west, by car and by motorcycle. I can honestly say, the best way is by fast jet. Where do you live that you'd call Iowa the 'outside world'? -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
Handicapping Iowa...
HK wrote:
Young Republicans in search of sex "do quite well at home." :} Vice is nice, but incest is best? Why do all of your sexual references focus in on bestiality, incest and young girls. Well, for Republicans, I suppose it beats hanging out at the men's room. |
Handicapping Iowa...
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wrote: On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 08:43:06 -0500, John H. wrote: On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 08:16:54 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 07:56:24 -0500, John H. wrote: On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 20:47:19 -0800, "Calif Bill" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: On Jan 5, 10:33 am, HK wrote: JG2U wrote: On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 02:01:10 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould wrote: If you read all the way to the bottom of the item, you'll see that your link actually validates my point about some Christians who describe themselvs as "evangelical" (including the Methodist preacher quoted) having difficulty with Romney's Mormon faith. From your link: Evangelicals are hugely influential in the Iowa caucuses, making up by some estimates some 40 percent of Republican caucus-goers. Many of them, however, have profound reservations about Mr. Romney's Mormon faith. Mr. Hurd, the pastor of West Hill United Methodist Church here who identified himself as an evangelical, said he wrestled with that issue himself but decided in the end it should not matter in his decision. "Although they have a theology vastly different from mine, Mormons generally are good citizens," he said. Mr. Hurd also offered some insight into where his fellow Alliance board members are leaning. He said they are mainly divided between Mr. Romney and Mr. Huckabee, with the latter probably holding the edge. "A lot of them are troubled by his Mormon religion," he said. "That's probably the difference." ******* So there's a statement, by an Iowa pastor describing himself as "evangelical", confirming that many Christians of his acquaintance are "troubled by (Romney's) Mormon religion." Not quite... there are no quotes around evangelical in the article. So it didn't come out of his mouth, but probably went something like this: "Do you evangelize as part of your faith?" "Yes." "So would you consider yourself an evangelical Christian?" "I suppose." My whole point continues to be that it is the *media* who seems to find the labels "evangelical" and "fundamentalist" (which *you* improperly used) important, not Christians themselves. And also that there are Christians who do not have a problem with the Mormon faith. Sure some do, but there are groups who are opposed to Romney for other reasons as well. So? Weird people everywhere. twisted logic deleted Huckabee is a perfect match for the GOP base.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No he is not... you just want him in because your candidates are so weak... Are you on consciousness-altering drugs? In the recently concluded Iowa caucuses, the Democratic candidates brought more than twice as many voters out on a cold night than the Republicans. I don't recall the exact count, but I believe the Dems had about 240,000 Iowans show up for caucus, while the Repugs had only about 115,000. And it was much more difficult and took much more time to vote in the Democratic caucuses. If the Democratic candidates were so weak, they wouldn't be outpolling the Republicans by such a substantial number. The only *decent* candidate on the GOP side is John McCain. Your hero, Huckabee the Evangelical, is a foreign policy numnutz. We've already had seven years of that with Bush. It isn't going to happen again. Most of that is how the Dem's set up their caucuses. What? Twice as many dems as repugs showed up because they were motivated, not because they had to. Are you drinking from Zell Miller's cup again? You drunk or all the lead from yesterdays shooting got to you? They run their caucuses different. A bunch of young folks showed up from other states hoping to get laid.l So, you are saying that Young Republicans are Asexual? They don't have to hop on a bus and go to Iowa in hopes of getting laid. They do quite well at home. So, you are saying they are "stick in the muds" with no drive or curiosity about the outside world? Young Republicans in search of sex "do quite well at home." :} Vice is nice, but incest is best? Well, for Republicans, I suppose it beats hanging out at the men's room. Did they make you take the medical sterilization as a condition of parole? |
Handicapping Iowa...
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Did they make you take the medical sterilization as a condition of parole? And you're so clever you quit high school to join the Marines, eh? -- George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever! |
Handicapping Iowa...
On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 08:56:15 -0500, HK wrote:
Young Republicans in search of sex "do quite well at home." :} Vice is nice, but incest is best? Well, for Republicans, I suppose it beats hanging out at the men's room. Very cool, Harry. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
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