I am so ashamed...
 

On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 03:17:02 GMT, "Steve"
wrote:

Another thought.......you'll be in better standing with a Toyota when the
U.S. become a thoroughly 3rd world sort-of-a-country.

If that happens, no one will be more to blame than the US automobile
industry with their consumer be damned attitude. After two or three
serious wake up calls you'd think that the message would have gotten
across but it obviously hasn't happened. Detroit won't change until
the last fool in the country finally dies.

I am so ashamed...
 

On Dec 30, 11:14*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 22:43:58 -0500, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 22:28:03 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 22:03:44 -0500, "JimH" wrote:

"Tim" wrote in message
....
On Dec 30, 4:35 pm, Tim wrote:

Nuts with it.
i always wanted one of these!
http://www.rongeorge.com/albums/ww2armorref/DUKW_1.jpg
That's old WW2 junk.
We have a bunch of Viet Nam era Lark V vehicles clogging up our streets
every summer......http://www.murphysonthewater.com/harbourhopper/-Hide
quoted text -
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It MAY be old ww2 junk, but that "junk" in restored condition (as we;;
as the Lark V) is worth more than that overgrown semi-pickup Larry is
braging about.
Besides, the DUKW swims!
-------------------------------------------------

Pffft!

http://www.terrawind.com/terrawind.htm
That's Harry's kind of boat - it has no transom. *:)
You do know the engine in that new Toyota is a Yamaha design, right?

Didn't know that.

Then again, Yamaha did build an engine for Ford.

And if you put three eTecs on the transom of a fast boat, will it still
be fast because only two of them will actually run at one time?

As compared to Yamahas which wouldn't run at all?

Yamahas don't have to run to stay ahead of eTecs, because in any races
of length, the eTecs will simply explode. * :}

http://www.boattest.com/Resources/vi...spx?NewsID=114

Notice where the Yamaha's came in?

After Evinrude.

Are you getting a candy colored metal flake paint job on that new truck?

Actually, it already has one - nice shiny metalflake gray with gold
and silver highlights.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

What's next, a ponytail and nose art... You are starting to worry me
man..

I am so ashamed...
 

On Dec 29, 1:07�pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
of myself.

Tried a F-250, 5.7 liter Ford pickup - towed the boat fine, but for
some reason, I'm not really happy with Fords at the moment.

Tried a 2500 Silverado Diesel - not happy with it - wasn't
comfortable, didn't like the seat belt set up and I didn't like the
interior design. �Towed ok.

Tried a Dodge Ram 2500 Quad cab - 5.7 Hemi sucks.

Tried a GMC 2500 Sierra - eh - fancy Silverado and I had the same
complaints.

Tried a Toyota Tundra just for yucks.

You will not believe what I ended up buying pending the resolution of
the F-150 issue.


Things change. Every so often it pays to resurvey the market. What we
all think we know about the relative merits of various brands can
become outdated.

It's understandable that people are slow to come around to Toyota
pickup trucks. What's more red-neck, down home, red-white-blue, and
apple pie on a red checkered Independence Day picnic table cloth than
a pickup truck? Can we really trust "The Japs" to build one (even in
Kentucky, Alabama, Tennessee, or what not)? Weren't we trying to kill
off as many of these folks as we could manage, just a bit over 60
years ago?

You shouldn't be ashamed, Tom. The two groups of people who should be
ashamed are. 1) Domestic truck makers who figure they can can corners
almost endlessly without disrupting the core "patriotic" market
segment. 2) The less-than-adequately discriminating consumers who
financially enable and support the manufacture of medicore or
substandard products by shopping with nostalgic prejudices rather than
objective analysis.

If more people buy Toyota trucks, we will see Ford, Chevrolet, and
Dodge improve substantially in response. It happened with cars, and it
will happen with trucks. Typical American industry- reactive rather
than proactive. (Reactive:OMG! There goes our market share! Guess we
better put some content back into the trademark before we lose any
more. Proactive: What can we do, while we're ahead, to make it tougher
for the competitors to realize any inroads?)

I am so ashamed...
 

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...
On Dec 29, 1:07?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
of myself.

Tried a F-250, 5.7 liter Ford pickup - towed the boat fine, but for
some reason, I'm not really happy with Fords at the moment.

Tried a 2500 Silverado Diesel - not happy with it - wasn't
comfortable, didn't like the seat belt set up and I didn't like the
interior design. ?Towed ok.

Tried a Dodge Ram 2500 Quad cab - 5.7 Hemi sucks.

Tried a GMC 2500 Sierra - eh - fancy Silverado and I had the same
complaints.

Tried a Toyota Tundra just for yucks.

You will not believe what I ended up buying pending the resolution of
the F-150 issue.


Things change. Every so often it pays to resurvey the market. What we
all think we know about the relative merits of various brands can
become outdated.

It's understandable that people are slow to come around to Toyota
pickup trucks. What's more red-neck, down home, red-white-blue, and
apple pie on a red checkered Independence Day picnic table cloth than
a pickup truck? Can we really trust "The Japs" to build one (even in
Kentucky, Alabama, Tennessee, or what not)? Weren't we trying to kill
off as many of these folks as we could manage, just a bit over 60
years ago?

You shouldn't be ashamed, Tom. The two groups of people who should be
ashamed are. 1) Domestic truck makers who figure they can can corners
almost endlessly without disrupting the core "patriotic" market
segment. 2) The less-than-adequately discriminating consumers who
financially enable and support the manufacture of medicore or
substandard products by shopping with nostalgic prejudices rather than
objective analysis.

If more people buy Toyota trucks, we will see Ford, Chevrolet, and
Dodge improve substantially in response. It happened with cars, and it
will happen with trucks. Typical American industry- reactive rather
than proactive. (Reactive:OMG! There goes our market share! Guess we
better put some content back into the trademark before we lose any
more. Proactive: What can we do, while we're ahead, to make it tougher
for the competitors to realize any inroads?)


My Son in Laws Tundra and it is 5 years old, seems tinny and does not ride
as nice as my 2500 Silverado. Reliable truck, but not as nice as mine.

I am so ashamed...
 

"Steve" wrote in message
...

On 29-Dec-2007, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

The Ford will have less opportunities to flex, since it'll spend less
time

in motion, as it waits for various engineering pranks to be fixed.

Like the engineering pranks on my suicide door Ranger, '99, 371,000 +
miles,
NO engine or other work except brakes, 8 sets of tires, transmission every
180,000 miles.

Go for the rice burner anyway, who needs jobs?? President Hillary will
furnish most needs, and younger generations can make 6 bucks an hour at
Walmart for playthings and incidentals.

Another thought.......you'll be in better standing with a Toyota when the
U.S. become a thoroughly 3rd world sort-of-a-country.



Hey, Steve, did you ask "who needs jobs" ???


I just want to be sure. Those were YOUR words, right?

I am so ashamed...
 

Wayne.B wrote in
:

On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 03:17:02 GMT, "Steve"
wrote:

Another thought.......you'll be in better standing with a Toyota when
the
U.S. become a thoroughly 3rd world sort-of-a-country.

If that happens, no one will be more to blame than the US automobile
industry with their consumer be damned attitude. After two or three
serious wake up calls you'd think that the message would have gotten
across but it obviously hasn't happened. Detroit won't change until
the last fool in the country finally dies.



You all assume, wrongly, the USA will exist at all:
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=14965
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=15233
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H65f3q_Lm9U CNN Report
http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com/

Why do you think nothing is being done to stop the illegal alien flow
from the South? Our area is overrun! The NAU has already started
repopulating the country for the transition.....

Ah, I see Gold is opening with a VERTICAL climb to $842.70/oz already
this morning....You lost your ass, again, if you hold dollars.

I predict once the public finds dollars totally worthless, they'll agree
to the wonderful new ELECTRONIC AMERO from the new NAU secret central
bankers. Won't that be wonderful? No cash, just credits accessible by
your Verichip in your neck, tagged like an animal.
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/te...4-10-13-human-
microchips_x.htm
No chip? No bank account, no money, no drivers license, no government
benefits, no access to anything, including every store which will all be
forced to use it to get paid for what YOU want to buy!

The driver's license office will implant them, negating the need to issue
you a driver's license. Every cop will have a scanner pointed at your
car BEFORE he stops you, downloading everything you ever
did....everything you ever had....everything you have now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiLixwNkur8
Tommy Thompson has his implanted...and now works for Verichip!

It's an interesting part of "Zeitgeist, the Movie":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuBo4E77ZXo
Watch all the parts on YouTube.....

$842/oz. Watch it happen LIVE on the livegold page below for free.

Has your house tripled in value since 9/11/2001, after all the
sales/repair loads to dump it? If it did...YOU BROKE EVEN! Otherwise
you LOST YOUR ASS! Oil hasn't gone up....MONEY HAS GONE DOWN..WAY DOWN!

Larry
--
http://kitco.com/charts/livegold.html
9-11-2001 gold was $270/oz
Last trade, DEC 31, 07 - $842.10
The stampede to devalue Fed Reserve Banknotes continues!
When does a "slide" become a "crash"?

I am so ashamed...
 

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 21:26:45 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:

My Son in Laws Tundra and it is 5 years old, seems tinny and does not ride
as nice as my 2500 Silverado. Reliable truck, but not as nice as mine.

I have a 6 year old Tundra and there is nothing tinny about it.

I am so ashamed...
 

On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 03:17:02 GMT, "Steve"
wrote:


On 29-Dec-2007, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

The Ford will have less opportunities to flex, since it'll spend less time

in motion, as it waits for various engineering pranks to be fixed.

Like the engineering pranks on my suicide door Ranger, '99, 371,000 + miles,
NO engine or other work except brakes, 8 sets of tires, transmission every
180,000 miles.

Go for the rice burner anyway, who needs jobs?? President Hillary will
furnish most needs, and younger generations can make 6 bucks an hour at
Walmart for playthings and incidentals.

Another thought.......you'll be in better standing with a Toyota when the
U.S. become a thoroughly 3rd world sort-of-a-country.

Toyota pickups make great machine gun mounts.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

I am so ashamed...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 22:43:58 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 22:28:03 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 22:03:44 -0500, "JimH" wrote:

"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Dec 30, 4:35 pm, Tim wrote:

Nuts with it.
i always wanted one of these!
http://www.rongeorge.com/albums/ww2armorref/DUKW_1.jpg
That's old WW2 junk.
We have a bunch of Viet Nam era Lark V vehicles clogging up our
streets
every
summer......http://www.murphysonthewater.com/harbourhopper/-Hide
quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
It MAY be old ww2 junk, but that "junk" in restored condition (as
we;;
as the Lark V) is worth more than that overgrown semi-pickup Larry
is
braging about.
Besides, the DUKW swims!
-------------------------------------------------

Pffft!

http://www.terrawind.com/terrawind.htm
That's Harry's kind of boat - it has no transom. :)
You do know the engine in that new Toyota is a Yamaha design, right?

Didn't know that.

Then again, Yamaha did build an engine for Ford.

And if you put three eTecs on the transom of a fast boat, will it still
be fast because only two of them will actually run at one time?

As compared to Yamahas which wouldn't run at all?

Yamahas don't have to run to stay ahead of eTecs, because in any races
of length, the eTecs will simply explode. :}

http://www.boattest.com/Resources/vi...spx?NewsID=114

Notice where the Yamaha's came in?

After Evinrude.

Are you getting a candy colored metal flake paint job on that new truck?

Actually, it already has one - nice shiny metalflake gray with gold
and silver highlights.

Too bad you didn't buy the regular cab 'plain Jane' model with small engine.
That would have been a perfect 2nd hand truck for me a few years down the
road. (assuming our loonie stays equal or better than your buck)

I am so ashamed...
 

Don White wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 22:43:58 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 22:28:03 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 22:03:44 -0500, "JimH" wrote:

"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Dec 30, 4:35 pm, Tim wrote:

Nuts with it.
i always wanted one of these!
http://www.rongeorge.com/albums/ww2armorref/DUKW_1.jpg
That's old WW2 junk.
We have a bunch of Viet Nam era Lark V vehicles clogging up our
streets
every
summer......http://www.murphysonthewater.com/harbourhopper/-Hide
quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
It MAY be old ww2 junk, but that "junk" in restored condition (as
we;;
as the Lark V) is worth more than that overgrown semi-pickup Larry
is
braging about.
Besides, the DUKW swims!
-------------------------------------------------

Pffft!

http://www.terrawind.com/terrawind.htm
That's Harry's kind of boat - it has no transom. :)
You do know the engine in that new Toyota is a Yamaha design, right?
Didn't know that.

Then again, Yamaha did build an engine for Ford.

And if you put three eTecs on the transom of a fast boat, will it still
be fast because only two of them will actually run at one time?
As compared to Yamahas which wouldn't run at all?
Yamahas don't have to run to stay ahead of eTecs, because in any races
of length, the eTecs will simply explode. :}
http://www.boattest.com/Resources/vi...spx?NewsID=114

Notice where the Yamaha's came in?

After Evinrude.

Are you getting a candy colored metal flake paint job on that new truck?
Actually, it already has one - nice shiny metalflake gray with gold
and silver highlights.

Too bad you didn't buy the regular cab 'plain Jane' model with small engine.
That would have been a perfect 2nd hand truck for me a few years down the
road. (assuming our loonie stays equal or better than your buck)




I'm kinda looking at one, but I don't see any need for the 5.7 liter
engine for my purposes. The regular cab models, though, aren't that
appealing to be because there's really no inside storage without the
back seats the extended cab models offer.