donquijote1954 wrote:
Oh, this site has all deep cycle chargers. I like the third one
because it's cheaper...

http://www.batterymart.com/c-deep-cy...-chargers.html

http://www.batterymart.com/p-cliplig...y-charger.html


I looked at them.

From experience I know that the AGM or spiral batteries are 'very'
picky about being overcharged. They will still vent hydrogen like a
normal battery on hard charge, but just don't have that much to vent so
they 'boil' dry easy.

For this reason I personally would go for one with an AGM 'switch'. I
think it would be worth it.

The second one also has the AGM sensing technology and it's waterproof.
Sometimes the fancy stuff like the 1st isn't always the 'best' stuff.

The 3rd or 'cliplite' only says it is for conventional lead acid
batteries....

If you will be charging at home or from a power grid, input voltage
sensing isn't needed like some have for running off inverters or generators.

Mike

On Dec 22, 2:08*pm, Mike Romain wrote:
donquijote1954 wrote:
Oh, this site has all deep cycle chargers. I like the third one
because it's cheaper...

http://www.batterymart.com/c-deep-cy...-chargers.html

http://www.batterymart.com/p-cliplig...y-charger.html

I looked at them.

*From experience I know that the AGM or spiral batteries are 'very'
picky about being overcharged. *They will still vent hydrogen like a
normal battery on hard charge, but just don't have that much to vent so
they 'boil' dry easy.

For this reason I personally would go for one with an AGM 'switch'. *I
think it would be worth it.

The second one also has the AGM sensing technology and it's waterproof.
* Sometimes the fancy stuff like the 1st isn't always the 'best' stuff.

The 3rd or 'cliplite' only says it is for conventional lead acid
batteries....

If you will be charging at home or from a power grid, input voltage
sensing isn't needed like some have for running off inverters or generators.

Mike

My mistake. I went for the low price instead of the features.

Thank you, I'll go for the first one. And I'd probably go with the
bigger battery in AGM, just in case. Thank you again!

Hey, guys, what you think about this one... it's cheap and cute...

http://westcobattery.com/chargers.html

On Dec 24, 5:00*pm, donquijote1954
wrote:
Hey, guys, what you think about this one... it's cheap and cute...

http://westcobattery.com/chargers.html

OK, I think I got it. The small battery I had in mind was rated at
32Ah, which is the rated capacity of this charger. What I can do is
get two AGM small batteries (West Marine, on sale $96). Better weight
distribution in the canoe and more flexibility.

donquijote1954 wrote:
On Dec 24, 5:00 pm, donquijote1954
wrote:
Hey, guys, what you think about this one... it's cheap and cute...

http://westcobattery.com/chargers.html

OK, I think I got it. The small battery I had in mind was rated at
32Ah, which is the rated capacity of this charger. What I can do is
get two AGM small batteries (West Marine, on sale $96). Better weight
distribution in the canoe and more flexibility.

I would try to find out the power draw from those motors before spending
money.

The 'old' school Minn Kota motors (pre 85) would last an 8 hour day
fishing when pushing a freighter canoe with 5 people or a row boat with
3 or 4 people on one car sized battery.

The new motors are supposed to be much better for battery life also.

If you motor only draws say 2 amps on medium speed which is almost water
skiing speed in a canoe, the battery should last about 15 hours.

The motors I had needed a sea anchor to keep them slow enough for
trolling weed patches. We used a bucket on a rope.

Mike

On Dec 25, 3:45*pm, Mike Romain wrote:
donquijote1954 wrote:
On Dec 24, 5:00 pm, donquijote1954
wrote:
Hey, guys, what you think about this one... it's cheap and cute...

http://westcobattery.com/chargers.html

OK, I think I got it. The small battery I had in mind was rated at
32Ah, which is the rated capacity of this charger. What I can do is
get two AGM small batteries (West Marine, on sale $96). Better weight
distribution in the canoe and more flexibility.

I would try to find out the power draw from those motors before spending
money.

The 'old' school Minn Kota motors (pre 85) would last an 8 hour day
fishing when pushing a freighter canoe with 5 people or a row boat with
3 or 4 people on one car sized battery.

The new motors are supposed to be much better for battery life also.

If you motor only draws say 2 amps on medium speed which is almost water
skiing speed in a canoe, the battery should last about 15 hours.

The motors I had needed a sea anchor to keep them slow enough for
trolling weed patches. *We used a bucket on a rope.

Mike

Good idea. Can you believe that I wrote to Minn Tonka asking their
motor's draw and they didn't even reply?

I guess I should be able to tell when I get it.

On Dec 25 2007, 6:41*pm, donquijote1954
wrote:
On Dec 25, 3:45*pm, Mike Romain wrote:





donquijote1954 wrote:
On Dec 24, 5:00 pm, donquijote1954
wrote:
Hey, guys, what you think about this one... it's cheap and cute...

http://westcobattery.com/chargers.html

OK, I think I got it. The small battery I had in mind was rated at
32Ah, which is the rated capacity of this charger. What I can do is
get two AGM small batteries (West Marine, on sale $96). Better weight
distribution in the canoe and more flexibility.

I would try to find out the power draw from those motors before spending
money.

The 'old' school Minn Kota motors (pre 85) would last an 8 hour day
fishing when pushing a freighter canoe with 5 people or a row boat with
3 or 4 people on one car sized battery.

The new motors are supposed to be much better for battery life also.

If you motor only draws say 2 amps on medium speed which is almost water
skiing speed in a canoe, the battery should last about 15 hours.

The motors I had needed a sea anchor to keep them slow enough for
trolling weed patches. *We used a bucket on a rope.

Mike

Good idea. Can you believe that I wrote to Minn Tonka asking their
motor's draw and they didn't even reply?

I guess I should be able to tell when I get it.-

Well, the motor is finally and I'm gonna reveal the secret...

"For best results use deep cycle Minn Kota marine batteries with at
least 105 amp hour rating. As a general on the water estimate, your 12
volt motor will draw 1.0 amp/hour for each pound of thrust produced
when the motor is running on high."

So at 40 thrust, that would be 40 amp/hour, and so... I need a big
battery! If I go for an AGM that would mean something like dishing out
over $200! Are you sure the fish are gonna bite that much?