Vic Smith wrote:
like the gulf, which is usually pretty flat.

Don't count on that. When the wind blows, the waves kick up just like
big water anywhere else. I don't know how many people die around here
every year due to misjudging the weather, but it happens on a fairly
regular basis. Bring a serious open water boat unless you're planning
on staying in the rivers and bayous.

Rick

On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:57:53 -0500, lid wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
like the gulf, which is usually pretty flat.

Don't count on that. When the wind blows, the waves kick up just like
big water anywhere else. I don't know how many people die around here
every year due to misjudging the weather, but it happens on a fairly
regular basis. Bring a serious open water boat unless you're planning
on staying in the rivers and bayous.

Yeah, I've spent some time on both, and it is relative. You don't
take chances. But in my limited experience you'll find the gulf more
often less bumpy than the Atlantic.

--Vic

Vic Smith wrote:
you'll find the gulf more
often less bumpy than the Atlantic.

Not sure the point in comparing one large body of water with another.
If you're swamped and drowning, you won't really care how often which
body is bumpy. I grew up on the water here and lived here for 60
years. I'm just saying, otherwise competent people come down here on a
regular basis and underestimate the Gulf's unpredictable nature, much
to their regret. And it happens fairly often, every damn year. I
don't know why.

Rick

lid wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
you'll find the gulf more
often less bumpy than the Atlantic.

Not sure the point in comparing one large body of water with another.
If you're swamped and drowning, you won't really care how often which
body is bumpy. I grew up on the water here and lived here for 60
years. I'm just saying, otherwise competent people come down here on a
regular basis and underestimate the Gulf's unpredictable nature, much
to their regret. And it happens fairly often, every damn year. I
don't know why.

Rick


My feeling is that the Gulf is less predictable than the Atlantic in
terms of sudden onset tostitos.

HK wrote:
sudden onset tostitos

I'm afraid to even ask......

lid wrote:
HK wrote:
sudden onset tostitos

I'm afraid to even ask......


The short version is that we had a poster here by name of Skipper who
claimed to encounter sudden and mighty storms in his 22' Bayliner while
cruising in the Gulf of California. Storms with 25-foot waves or some
such nonsense, and he was constantly bragging about his seamanship and
the seakeeping abilities of his boat. He was sort of like Wayne B. in
his braggadocio, but was at times a more entertaining writer.

In case you didn't know, Wayne and his floating RV came through the
perfect storm in fine order, the perfect storm being 1991 Halloween
Nor'easter that hit North America in October 1991, and sank the steel
fishing vessel Andrea Gail, who were lost 575 miles at sea. Since then,
Wayne has been a really scared skipper, too afraid to run inlets that
even 16-foot Carolina Skiffs transit.

HK wrote:
lid wrote:
HK wrote:
sudden onset tostitos

I'm afraid to even ask......


The short version is that we had a poster here by name of Skipper who
claimed to encounter sudden and mighty storms in his 22' Bayliner while
cruising in the Gulf of California. Storms with 25-foot waves or some
such nonsense, and he was constantly bragging about his seamanship and
the seakeeping abilities of his boat. He was sort of like Wayne B. in
his braggadocio, but was at times a more entertaining writer.

In case you didn't know, Wayne and his floating RV came through the
perfect storm in fine order, the perfect storm being 1991 Halloween
Nor'easter that hit North America in October 1991, and sank the steel
fishing vessel Andrea Gail, who were lost 575 miles at sea. Since then,
Wayne has been a really scared skipper, too afraid to run inlets that
even 16-foot Carolina Skiffs transit.


Forgot...we called Skipper's imaginary storms sudden onset
tostitos...because they occurred in Mexican waters.

On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:28:28 -0400, HK wrote:

Since then,
Wayne has been a really scared skipper, too afraid to run inlets that
even 16-foot Carolina Skiffs transit.

Insults beget insults Parker boy. What inlets have *you* run lately?
Patuxent River at Solomons? Incredible bravery in a LTP.

lid wrote:
HK wrote:
sudden onset tostitos

I'm afraid to even ask......
Phant,
It is a *******ization of the Tehuano Winds. Some people used to make
fun of Skipper's wild stories about getting caught in the Tehuano Winds
in the Sea of Cortes. Tehuano Winds are caused by a high pressure
system rushing through the valleys on the Baja Peninsula towards a low
pressure system off the Pacific coast. If I am not mistaken, the high
winds are really only a problem in the Pacific and are not a problem in
the Sea of Cortes.

HK wrote:
sudden onset tostitos

PhantMan wrote:
I'm afraid to even ask......

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote:
Phant,
It is a *******ization of the Tehuano Winds.

Oh!! The Winds of Tabasco????
I missed the connection. Must be a regional thing ;-)
Thanks,
Rick