Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 20:04:25 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Secondly, if you are lost and come to a fork in the road, which one do
you take?
Answer: The right one
How do you know it's the right one?

In retrospect, it's unfailingly accurate.

My first thought was to say "The correct one", then I thought better.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:50:17 -0400, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Oct 8, 12:37 pm, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Oct 8, 9:13?am, Short Wave Sportfishing
I'll only go half throttle. :)
Sounds like a half fast compromise to me. :-)
On the other hand, experiments and demonstrations that promise to
violate the laws of physics often are interesting. Tom has proposed one.
Apples and Oranges.. Each job has it's own tool. Years ago I had a CJ7
and worked at a body shop. The frame guy had a VW (smerk) Rabbit that
was set up for, uh, speed. He used to tell me he could take me in the
quarter, I told him to hook up bumper to bumper and I would drag him
to the local scrap yard
Indeed, but the "riding through the slop" experiment Tom has proposed
would end up violating the laws of physics for his boat to win. It just
doesn't make any sense.

What you seem to fail to understand is this - my boat doesn't tip -
ever. Put three guys on the starboard rail and it still stays flat.

It will roll - I'm not claiming that it won't roll, but water over the
gunwale? No way. Been there, done that - have the proof. It's
because of the slight deadrise and the step hull. As to "pounding" -
yeah - a little depending on how you approach a wave at speed, but
with the trim angle adjusted properly, the entry and exit is very
smooth.

Yours, on the other hand, being a fairly standard CC with the same
beam as my Ranger and a 21 degree deadrise can't perform the same
trick because of the hull configuration and if anything will probably
"pound" as much as the Ranger given the same sea state. And it will
tip broadside to the water further than my boat will.

Mine bobs like a cork - yours, not so much.

Them's the "physics".

So, what do you say - wanna do it? :)


Carolina Skiffs, the flat bottomed ones and the ones with some vee,
don't tip, either, but in monohulled planing boats, the flatter the vee,
the harder and usually the wetter the ride. There's just no way a flat
bottomed planing hull in the sizes we're discussing won't pound in hard
chop.

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 15:09:35 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Departed from here, not from life. If you're on the Miles River, you're
a lot closer to the lobsta boat than you know.
Wayne, that infamous lobsta boat is in your neighborhood, snap a picture
of it.

But of course.

It will be hard to tell it from the other 101 varieties of Chesapeake
Bay crabbers however without our LT hero in it, and he seems firmly
parked in his parka.


If you head down the Miles and turn "left" towards the bridge, there are
aren't many...

On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:10:45 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:52:03 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

I'd like to see a test between the ETEC 150 hp and a 140hp (3.0) GM/
Mercuiser.

Too far away, but I'd put my little chris craft up to the test.

Chicken. :)

This could turn into quie the event - a tow off!!

Tell you guys what, I'll take on all 3 of you at once, winner take
all.

Somewhere, off in the distance, I can hear a pair of DD6-71s spooling
up, with 30 inch props thrashing the water. Size matters.

Oops, some of the water seems to be going over those cute little
transoms on the toy boats...

Houston, we seem to have a problem. Call 1-800-SEATOW, bring
flotation bags.

Might be an interesting experience.

I wonder if I could tow your boat backwards?

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:10:45 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:52:03 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

I'd like to see a test between the ETEC 150 hp and a 140hp (3.0) GM/
Mercuiser.

Too far away, but I'd put my little chris craft up to the test.
Chicken. :)

This could turn into quie the event - a tow off!!
Tell you guys what, I'll take on all 3 of you at once, winner take
all.

Somewhere, off in the distance, I can hear a pair of DD6-71s spooling
up, with 30 inch props thrashing the water. Size matters.

Oops, some of the water seems to be going over those cute little
transoms on the toy boats...

Houston, we seem to have a problem. Call 1-800-SEATOW, bring
flotation bags.

Might be an interesting experience.

I wonder if I could tow your boat backwards?


It's a full doublewide, isn't it? I wonder if he keeps his refrigerator
out on the back porch.

On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:43:52 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:50:17 -0400, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Oct 8, 12:37 pm, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Oct 8, 9:13?am, Short Wave Sportfishing
I'll only go half throttle. :)
Sounds like a half fast compromise to me. :-)
On the other hand, experiments and demonstrations that promise to
violate the laws of physics often are interesting. Tom has proposed one.
Apples and Oranges.. Each job has it's own tool. Years ago I had a CJ7
and worked at a body shop. The frame guy had a VW (smerk) Rabbit that
was set up for, uh, speed. He used to tell me he could take me in the
quarter, I told him to hook up bumper to bumper and I would drag him
to the local scrap yard
Indeed, but the "riding through the slop" experiment Tom has proposed
would end up violating the laws of physics for his boat to win. It just
doesn't make any sense.

What you seem to fail to understand is this - my boat doesn't tip -
ever. Put three guys on the starboard rail and it still stays flat.

It will roll - I'm not claiming that it won't roll, but water over the
gunwale? No way. Been there, done that - have the proof. It's
because of the slight deadrise and the step hull. As to "pounding" -
yeah - a little depending on how you approach a wave at speed, but
with the trim angle adjusted properly, the entry and exit is very
smooth.

Yours, on the other hand, being a fairly standard CC with the same
beam as my Ranger and a 21 degree deadrise can't perform the same
trick because of the hull configuration and if anything will probably
"pound" as much as the Ranger given the same sea state. And it will
tip broadside to the water further than my boat will.

Mine bobs like a cork - yours, not so much.

Them's the "physics".

So, what do you say - wanna do it? :)

Carolina Skiffs, the flat bottomed ones and the ones with some vee,
don't tip, either, but in monohulled planing boats, the flatter the vee,
the harder and usually the wetter the ride. There's just no way a flat
bottomed planing hull in the sizes we're discussing won't pound in hard
chop.

Hello?

I'm willing - am you? :)

On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:53:17 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:10:45 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:52:03 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

I'd like to see a test between the ETEC 150 hp and a 140hp (3.0) GM/
Mercuiser.

Too far away, but I'd put my little chris craft up to the test.
Chicken. :)

This could turn into quie the event - a tow off!!
Tell you guys what, I'll take on all 3 of you at once, winner take
all.

Somewhere, off in the distance, I can hear a pair of DD6-71s spooling
up, with 30 inch props thrashing the water. Size matters.

Oops, some of the water seems to be going over those cute little
transoms on the toy boats...

Houston, we seem to have a problem. Call 1-800-SEATOW, bring
flotation bags.

Might be an interesting experience.

I wonder if I could tow your boat backwards?

It's a full doublewide, isn't it? I wonder if he keeps his refrigerator
out on the back porch.

Actually, no it's in the main salon. At least it was when Mrs. Wave
and I were aboard.

It's a beautiful boat, I'll admit that - gorgeous. And space up the
whoo hoo.

I just can't get into the whole slow boat to China thing.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:53:17 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:10:45 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:52:03 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

I'd like to see a test between the ETEC 150 hp and a 140hp (3.0) GM/
Mercuiser.

Too far away, but I'd put my little chris craft up to the test.
Chicken. :)

This could turn into quie the event - a tow off!!
Tell you guys what, I'll take on all 3 of you at once, winner take
all.

Somewhere, off in the distance, I can hear a pair of DD6-71s spooling
up, with 30 inch props thrashing the water. Size matters.

Oops, some of the water seems to be going over those cute little
transoms on the toy boats...

Houston, we seem to have a problem. Call 1-800-SEATOW, bring
flotation bags.
Might be an interesting experience.

I wonder if I could tow your boat backwards?
It's a full doublewide, isn't it? I wonder if he keeps his refrigerator
out on the back porch.

Actually, no it's in the main salon. At least it was when Mrs. Wave
and I were aboard.

It's a beautiful boat, I'll admit that - gorgeous. And space up the
whoo hoo.

I just can't get into the whole slow boat to China thing.


As I said previously, I think the smaller GBs have pretty lines. The big
ones seem ungainly to me.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:43:52 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:50:17 -0400, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Oct 8, 12:37 pm, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Oct 8, 9:13?am, Short Wave Sportfishing
I'll only go half throttle. :)
Sounds like a half fast compromise to me. :-)
On the other hand, experiments and demonstrations that promise to
violate the laws of physics often are interesting. Tom has proposed one.
Apples and Oranges.. Each job has it's own tool. Years ago I had a CJ7
and worked at a body shop. The frame guy had a VW (smerk) Rabbit that
was set up for, uh, speed. He used to tell me he could take me in the
quarter, I told him to hook up bumper to bumper and I would drag him
to the local scrap yard
Indeed, but the "riding through the slop" experiment Tom has proposed
would end up violating the laws of physics for his boat to win. It just
doesn't make any sense.
What you seem to fail to understand is this - my boat doesn't tip -
ever. Put three guys on the starboard rail and it still stays flat.

It will roll - I'm not claiming that it won't roll, but water over the
gunwale? No way. Been there, done that - have the proof. It's
because of the slight deadrise and the step hull. As to "pounding" -
yeah - a little depending on how you approach a wave at speed, but
with the trim angle adjusted properly, the entry and exit is very
smooth.

Yours, on the other hand, being a fairly standard CC with the same
beam as my Ranger and a 21 degree deadrise can't perform the same
trick because of the hull configuration and if anything will probably
"pound" as much as the Ranger given the same sea state. And it will
tip broadside to the water further than my boat will.

Mine bobs like a cork - yours, not so much.

Them's the "physics".

So, what do you say - wanna do it? :)
Carolina Skiffs, the flat bottomed ones and the ones with some vee,
don't tip, either, but in monohulled planing boats, the flatter the vee,
the harder and usually the wetter the ride. There's just no way a flat
bottomed planing hull in the sizes we're discussing won't pound in hard
chop.

Hello?

I'm willing - am you? :)


Sure...a head sea challenge with a side wind? Sounds like fun to me.
I'll loan you my yellow slicker and hand bailer.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:10:45 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:


Tell you guys what, I'll take on all 3 of you at once, winner take
all.

Somewhere, off in the distance, I can hear a pair of DD6-71s spooling
up, with 30 inch props thrashing the water. Size matters.

Oops, some of the water seems to be going over those cute little
transoms on the toy boats...

Houston, we seem to have a problem. Call 1-800-SEATOW, bring
flotation bags.



Might be an interesting experience.

I wonder if I could tow your boat backwards?

Only if he had the engines off or in neutral.

Think twin 30-inch wheels ..... and the power to turn them.

Eisboch