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On Oct 8, 11:08 am, HK wrote:
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On Oct 8, 10:51 am, HK wrote:
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On Oct 8, 10:35 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:10:50 -0000, shipmk wrote:
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Can you build a low transom 21 foot center console?
Why would anyone want to build one of those?
Fishermen love em'
They add structure to the bottom...
I suspect it would take you about a millisecond to say yes if someone
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Maybe if you put on a coat of wax and some nose art


Just put on another coat of Collinate paste on the hullsides, outside
and in, and Woodywax on the non-skid. The nose art is up to you. Might I
suggest a cartoon of a Parker 21 eating one of those low-sided, wet
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They are only wet if you hook the Captains' hat with the treble
hook... In which case I guess there are two options. Overboard, or
stuffed in the livewell with those toothy bluefish

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 10:35:32 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:10:50 -0000, shipmk wrote:

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Can you build a low transom 21 foot center console?

Why would anyone want to build one of those?


There are some who believe that wet decks and unstable platforms in
stern seas are a plus. It's a kind of "macho" thing.

Not to mention any names of course, but a set of initials might just
look like...

Well, let's just leave it at that.

Plus, based on Gene's story, they make good artificial reefs. :)



Speaking of wet decks, this is a 22' Bay Ranger:

http://tinyurl.com/2rlax5

Specs say it is only 16.5" deep from the cockpit sole to the
gunnels...couple of interesting broadsides, and glug, glug, glug.

Nice boat for the Florida flats or the North Florida ICW...I'd certainly
not take it out in the ocean or a big bay.
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 10:44:30 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
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On Oct 8, 10:35 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:10:50 -0000, shipmk wrote:
-Special Purpose Vessels: Research Vessel, Training Ship, Floating
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Can you build a low transom 21 foot center console?
Why would anyone want to build one of those?


Fishermen love em'

They add structure to the bottom...


But they are not big enough to really provide a good home for the
monster fish. Now if you tie together about 10 of them, now that would
be some good structure.


Funny you should mention that.

One of the more interesting things I did last week, besides testing
boats that is, was attending a seminar on artificial reefs.

It was very interesting and a lot of really good science was
presented. Lots of data points including information on the building
process and discussion was lively and very civil.

One of the more intriguing presentations was done by a USFW service
biologist who really had a handle on the whole process. What was
startling was his belief, backed by some very solid empirical and
scientific evidence, that artificial reefs tended to aggragate fish
stocks and not create new fish stocks.

His point was that aggragating fish stocks by building artificial
reefs may not be the most desirable way to protect over utilized
species instead opting for more aggressive enforcement of current
regulations even up to and including quota enforcement and commercial
fishing buyouts.

To say that viewpoint was well received by the commercial types would
be a lie, but he held his ground and presented some very compelling
evidence that he was right.

I'm not totally convinced, but he made me think more about the
process.
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:16:13 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 10:35:32 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:10:50 -0000, shipmk wrote:

-Special Purpose Vessels: Research Vessel, Training Ship, Floating
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Can you build a low transom 21 foot center console?
Why would anyone want to build one of those?


There are some who believe that wet decks and unstable platforms in
stern seas are a plus. It's a kind of "macho" thing.

Not to mention any names of course, but a set of initials might just
look like...

Well, let's just leave it at that.

Plus, based on Gene's story, they make good artificial reefs. :)



Speaking of wet decks, this is a 22' Bay Ranger:

http://tinyurl.com/2rlax5

Specs say it is only 16.5" deep from the cockpit sole to the
gunnels...couple of interesting broadsides, and glug, glug, glug.

Nice boat for the Florida flats or the North Florida ICW...I'd certainly
not take it out in the ocean or a big bay.


Tell you what - let's do a little "test".

I'll bring my Ranger down there when I leave for SC next week and on
my way back, we'll put your Parker up against my Ranger in some heavy
wakes or seas.

Broadside. I guarentee you I will be nice and dry and you will be
soaked. No boots - deck shoes for evidence.

And just for giggles, let's see if your 150 Yamaha can pull the stern
of my Ranger under. Then we'll see if my ETEC can pull the stern of
your Parker under.

How 'bout it? Up for it? :)
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:48:00 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
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No it doesn't bother me at all for anyone to ask me any question at all.


What is the sound of one hand clapping?

Secondly, if you are lost and come to a fork in the road, which one do
you take?
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:16:13 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 10:35:32 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:10:50 -0000, shipmk wrote:

-Special Purpose Vessels: Research Vessel, Training Ship, Floating
Dock, Floating Crane, Pleasure Boat, Hospital Ship, Patrol Boat
Can you build a low transom 21 foot center console?
Why would anyone want to build one of those?
There are some who believe that wet decks and unstable platforms in
stern seas are a plus. It's a kind of "macho" thing.

Not to mention any names of course, but a set of initials might just
look like...

Well, let's just leave it at that.

Plus, based on Gene's story, they make good artificial reefs. :)


Speaking of wet decks, this is a 22' Bay Ranger:

http://tinyurl.com/2rlax5

Specs say it is only 16.5" deep from the cockpit sole to the
gunnels...couple of interesting broadsides, and glug, glug, glug.

Nice boat for the Florida flats or the North Florida ICW...I'd certainly
not take it out in the ocean or a big bay.


Tell you what - let's do a little "test".

I'll bring my Ranger down there when I leave for SC next week and on
my way back, we'll put your Parker up against my Ranger in some heavy
wakes or seas.

Broadside. I guarentee you I will be nice and dry and you will be
soaked. No boots - deck shoes for evidence.

And just for giggles, let's see if your 150 Yamaha can pull the stern
of my Ranger under. Then we'll see if my ETEC can pull the stern of
your Parker under.

How 'bout it? Up for it? :)



Oh the first part makes perfect sense, as my boat, though a foot shorter
than yours (you have a 22' boat, right?), it is about a foot deeper from
the deck to the gunnels, has the typical "Carolina flare," has 21
degrees of deadrise at the transom and probably weighs about 1000 pounds
more. Right. Makes perfect sense, even though what you are saying
violates the laws of physics. Yep, your boat is going to be drier in
heavy seas. Sure it is.

The second part would be fun if we had the same sized engines on the
transom...don't you have a 300 hp deadTec on that wet little boat? :}

I only have a 150.
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:56:05 -0400, HK wrote:



Oh the first part makes perfect sense, as my boat, though a foot shorter
than yours (you have a 22' boat, right?), it is about a foot deeper from
the deck to the gunnels, has the typical "Carolina flare," has 21
degrees of deadrise at the transom and probably weighs about 1000 pounds
more. Right. Makes perfect sense, even though what you are saying
violates the laws of physics. Yep, your boat is going to be drier in
heavy seas. Sure it is.


20' and I can see you are already backing down.

Chicken. :)

The second part would be fun if we had the same sized engines on the
transom...don't you have a 300 hp deadTec on that wet little boat? :}

I only have a 150.


200 HO.

I'll only go half throttle. :)
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