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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:50:17 -0400, HK wrote: wrote: On Oct 8, 12:37 pm, HK wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: On Oct 8, 9:13?am, Short Wave Sportfishing I'll only go half throttle. :) Sounds like a half fast compromise to me. :-) On the other hand, experiments and demonstrations that promise to violate the laws of physics often are interesting. Tom has proposed one. Apples and Oranges.. Each job has it's own tool. Years ago I had a CJ7 and worked at a body shop. The frame guy had a VW (smerk) Rabbit that was set up for, uh, speed. He used to tell me he could take me in the quarter, I told him to hook up bumper to bumper and I would drag him to the local scrap yard  Indeed, but the "riding through the slop" experiment Tom has proposed would end up violating the laws of physics for his boat to win. It just doesn't make any sense. What you seem to fail to understand is this - my boat doesn't tip - ever. Put three guys on the starboard rail and it still stays flat. It will roll - I'm not claiming that it won't roll, but water over the gunwale? No way. Been there, done that - have the proof. It's because of the slight deadrise and the step hull. As to "pounding" - yeah - a little depending on how you approach a wave at speed, but with the trim angle adjusted properly, the entry and exit is very smooth. Yours, on the other hand, being a fairly standard CC with the same beam as my Ranger and a 21 degree deadrise can't perform the same trick because of the hull configuration and if anything will probably "pound" as much as the Ranger given the same sea state. And it will tip broadside to the water further than my boat will. Mine bobs like a cork - yours, not so much. Them's the "physics". So, what do you say - wanna do it? :) Carolina Skiffs, the flat bottomed ones and the ones with some vee, don't tip, either, but in monohulled planing boats, the flatter the vee, the harder and usually the wetter the ride. There's just no way a flat bottomed planing hull in the sizes we're discussing won't pound in hard chop. |
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:43:52 -0400, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:50:17 -0400, HK wrote: wrote: On Oct 8, 12:37 pm, HK wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: On Oct 8, 9:13?am, Short Wave Sportfishing I'll only go half throttle. :) Sounds like a half fast compromise to me. :-) On the other hand, experiments and demonstrations that promise to violate the laws of physics often are interesting. Tom has proposed one. Apples and Oranges.. Each job has it's own tool. Years ago I had a CJ7 and worked at a body shop. The frame guy had a VW (smerk) Rabbit that was set up for, uh, speed. He used to tell me he could take me in the quarter, I told him to hook up bumper to bumper and I would drag him to the local scrap yard Indeed, but the "riding through the slop" experiment Tom has proposed would end up violating the laws of physics for his boat to win. It just doesn't make any sense. What you seem to fail to understand is this - my boat doesn't tip - ever. Put three guys on the starboard rail and it still stays flat. It will roll - I'm not claiming that it won't roll, but water over the gunwale? No way. Been there, done that - have the proof. It's because of the slight deadrise and the step hull. As to "pounding" - yeah - a little depending on how you approach a wave at speed, but with the trim angle adjusted properly, the entry and exit is very smooth. Yours, on the other hand, being a fairly standard CC with the same beam as my Ranger and a 21 degree deadrise can't perform the same trick because of the hull configuration and if anything will probably "pound" as much as the Ranger given the same sea state. And it will tip broadside to the water further than my boat will. Mine bobs like a cork - yours, not so much. Them's the "physics". So, what do you say - wanna do it? :) Carolina Skiffs, the flat bottomed ones and the ones with some vee, don't tip, either, but in monohulled planing boats, the flatter the vee, the harder and usually the wetter the ride. There's just no way a flat bottomed planing hull in the sizes we're discussing won't pound in hard chop. Hello? I'm willing - am you? :) |
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