Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
".

As such, it is my role to provide quidance to the correct answer - not
provide it.
Ok, provide me some guidance as to where I should stick my hypothetical
boat.

OOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMM.....

Where ever it fits most comfortably

OOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMM....

Bend over

On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:51:35 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


Go to Abuchon's and get 20 feet of #10 zip wire. You don't need
anything larger than #10 - that starter doesn't require tons of amps.


Lamp cord...... rigghhhttt.......

Well, for starters, it's not lamp cord. It's used on farms for
repairs to tractors, milking machines and a ton of other uses where
the capacity is less than required for #8.

Secondly, it has heavy quage strands and is stiff as a board.

http://www.jscwire.com/jsc_partspage.taf?esid=43

It is a poor grade of wire which comes under the same standards as
lamp cord(UL 62).

It meets NONE of the boating requirements set forth under UL, ABYC,
NFPA, USCG, etc.

It is does not meet the requirements of UL 1426, it is not a tinned
conductor, it doesn't meet the required voltage rating, it isn't
colored the right colors for marine DC, it is not marked with
type/style, voltage, wire size or temperature rating, nor is it flame
retardant or moisture resistant I/A/W requirements of UL 83.

It is not the type of wire I would use on my boat and I would not
advise others to do so, either.

The smallest marine battery cable than I know of is #8..... suppose
they are trying to tell you something???? Ditto the packaged terminal
set....

Wrong again.

Ok, check this page out. It sets forth "Sal****er Primary Cable" as
apart from "Zip Parallel Lamp Cord Wire" and stops of at #8 for the
smallest "Battery and Starter Cable."
http://www.hi-line.com/wirecable-sal...imarycable/174


I can point you to a number of manufacturers, includin Grady White who
use #10 cable in zip cord format for easier wire runs.

That is simply ridiculous... and so demonstrably wrong.

The following boats are manufactured to ABYC standards..... and you
aren't going to find any (non-ABYC standard) "Zip Wire" in any of
them..... (unless it is either speaker wire or somebody other than the
manufacturer put it there).
http://www.discoverboating.com/buyin...ied/boats.aspx

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On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 10:40:37 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:51:35 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


Go to Abuchon's and get 20 feet of #10 zip wire. You don't need
anything larger than #10 - that starter doesn't require tons of amps.


Lamp cord...... rigghhhttt.......

Well, for starters, it's not lamp cord. It's used on farms for
repairs to tractors, milking machines and a ton of other uses where
the capacity is less than required for #8.

Secondly, it has heavy quage strands and is stiff as a board.

http://www.jscwire.com/jsc_partspage.taf?esid=43

It is a poor grade of wire which comes under the same standards as
lamp cord(UL 62).

It meets NONE of the boating requirements set forth under UL, ABYC,
NFPA, USCG, etc.

It is does not meet the requirements of UL 1426, it is not a tinned
conductor, it doesn't meet the required voltage rating, it isn't
colored the right colors for marine DC, it is not marked with
type/style, voltage, wire size or temperature rating, nor is it flame
retardant or moisture resistant I/A/W requirements of UL 83.

It is not the type of wire I would use on my boat and I would not
advise others to do so, either.

The smallest marine battery cable than I know of is #8..... suppose
they are trying to tell you something???? Ditto the packaged terminal
set....

Wrong again.

Ok, check this page out. It sets forth "Sal****er Primary Cable" as
apart from "Zip Parallel Lamp Cord Wire" and stops of at #8 for the
smallest "Battery and Starter Cable."
http://www.hi-line.com/wirecable-sal...imarycable/174


I can point you to a number of manufacturers, includin Grady White who
use #10 cable in zip cord format for easier wire runs.

That is simply ridiculous... and so demonstrably wrong.

The following boats are manufactured to ABYC standards..... and you
aren't going to find any (non-ABYC standard) "Zip Wire" in any of
them..... (unless it is either speaker wire or somebody other than the
manufacturer put it there).
http://www.discoverboating.com/buyin...ied/boats.aspx

What ever.

On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 06:36:33 -0000,
wrote:

Tom already knows everything, just ask him

But does he know what he doesn't know?

Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 06:36:33 -0000,
wrote:

Tom already knows everything, just ask him

But does he know what he doesn't know?

That really is the most important part of knowledge.

On Sep 25, 1:50 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 06:36:33 -0000,
wrote:

Tom already knows everything, just ask him

But does he know what he doesn't know?

Uh, I dunno'

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 06:47:46 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Tim wrote:
On Sep 25, 5:38 am, Tim wrote:
On Sep 25, 5:35 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:





On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 03:27:29 -0700, Tim wrote:
On Sep 25, 1:36 am, wrote:
On Sep 25, 12:59 am, Tim wrote:
On Sep 24, 8:18 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
There is no solid wire to the engine.
Any more comments
Certianly Tom, what do you wish to know?
Hrumph... uh, Tom already knows everything, just ask him
Well, before I cleaned off the question mark, his statement was
actually:
Any more comments?
Which sort of leaves a bit of doubt concerning total knowledge....
Ask the Oracle of Woodstock - go ahead ask...- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
ask what? ?: - Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

OK i got it, O great sage, is it permissible to tighten loose battery
cables, by running a large screw down between the clamp and the
battery post? I ahve seen it done on many ocasion, but is it
permissible?

NO it is not! and if SWF was really an oracle, you wouldn't have to
ask the question, he would know your question before you asked it.

Wrong again, hypothetical boat boy...

I am an Oracle in the Tibetan tradition.

In Tibet, oracles have played, and continue to play, an important part
in religion and government. The word "oracle" is used by Tibetans to
refer to the spirit that enters those men and women who act as media
between the natural and the spiritual realms. The media are,
therefore, known as kuten, which literally means, "the physical
basis".

As such, it is my role to provide quidance to the correct answer - not
provide it.

The new Cleave Cussler novel of the Oregon Files has a Tibetan oracle. Also
a fun read book.

On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 15:03:41 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 06:47:46 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Tim wrote:
On Sep 25, 5:38 am, Tim wrote:
On Sep 25, 5:35 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:





On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 03:27:29 -0700, Tim wrote:
On Sep 25, 1:36 am, wrote:
On Sep 25, 12:59 am, Tim wrote:
On Sep 24, 8:18 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
There is no solid wire to the engine.
Any more comments
Certianly Tom, what do you wish to know?
Hrumph... uh, Tom already knows everything, just ask him
Well, before I cleaned off the question mark, his statement was
actually:
Any more comments?
Which sort of leaves a bit of doubt concerning total knowledge....
Ask the Oracle of Woodstock - go ahead ask...- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
ask what? ?: - Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

OK i got it, O great sage, is it permissible to tighten loose battery
cables, by running a large screw down between the clamp and the
battery post? I ahve seen it done on many ocasion, but is it
permissible?

NO it is not! and if SWF was really an oracle, you wouldn't have to
ask the question, he would know your question before you asked it.

Wrong again, hypothetical boat boy...

I am an Oracle in the Tibetan tradition.

In Tibet, oracles have played, and continue to play, an important part
in religion and government. The word "oracle" is used by Tibetans to
refer to the spirit that enters those men and women who act as media
between the natural and the spiritual realms. The media are,
therefore, known as kuten, which literally means, "the physical
basis".

As such, it is my role to provide quidance to the correct answer - not
provide it.

The new Cleave Cussler novel of the Oregon Files has a Tibetan oracle. Also
a fun read book.

It's Clive and yeah - I picked it up the other day.

Haven't started it yet - got a couple to get through first.

On Sep 25, 6:34 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:


As such, it is my role to provide quidance to the correct answer - not
provide it

Still waiting on the answer to tightening a loose battery cable to a
battery post with a sheet metal screw (maybe more than one.


But if more time is requied, then how about tightening a loose battery
cable end by cutting a shim out of sodie pop can, wrapping it tightly
around the battery post, then hammering the cable end down over the
wrapping to make a snug fit.


I know it's possible, 'cuz i seen it done before.



but.... is it permissable?

On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 08:05:33 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
".

As such, it is my role to provide quidance to the correct answer - not
provide it.
Ok, provide me some guidance as to where I should stick my hypothetical
boat.

OOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMM.....

Where ever it fits most comfortably

OOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMM....

Bend over

I am merely the conduit for advice.

I do not participate in the mundane doings of mortal supplicants.