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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:52:58 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:08:39 -0700, witfal wrote:

On 2007-09-21 16:45:50 -0700, "JoeSpareBedroom"

said:
Joe...no offense intended...but get to the gym, man.

Assuming that's you, of course.


It's me, and I agree halfway. It's about 20% shirt and bad
picture
angle.
But still, I saw that picture and said PHUQUE! This isn't good.
Got
back
to
hiking 3 miles a day on some outrageous hills, carrying 50 lbs
in
a
backpack
and 20 lbs in each hand for resistance. I've been in size 34
jeans
since
1970, went to 35 two years ago. I will NOT continue in that
direction.
Not.

I don't know how tall you are, but you should strive for no higher
than
18 percent body fat. You'll live longer, and keep diabetes away.
A
good thing.

15-16% would be better. I pack 13 and, at age 54, it's tough
getting
lower unless you spend some time every day lifting followed by
cardio.

Golf - walking.

A game for pansies. Sounds right, johnny.

You've walked 7000 yards with a golf bag on your bag full of clubs
and
balls, right?

Try it, and then come and call names.


Is that why you play it? For the weight lifting exercise?


My initial reason for even considering it was the idea of getting the
exercise. It's much more appealing than a treadmill.

No, I don't carry my bag, so I'm not into it for the weight lifting
exercise. I'm 6' 3.5" and weigh, as of yesterday, 196 lbs. So I'm not
in
the shape you are.


So, your question about the 7000 yards with a bag full of clubs was
meaningless, since you don't carry it.


No, you were the one talking about walking with the weight on your back.
I
was suggesting an alternative. I don't *need* to walk with a lot of
weight
on my back. My doctor just pushes exercise, which I'm getting.

Doug, I'm not trying to be sarcastic or start a ****ing contest with
you.
I
saw the picture, I read your comments, I offered a way to get the
exercise
the doctor suggested and do something enjoyable and challenging at the
same
time.

I find golf to be a complete snore. I've tried it. And, it's certainly not
strenuous enough to have any real value to me.


Change courses.

If you walked four miles, carrying your clubs, with some hills and
valleys,
and you didn't work up a sweat, then put 150lbs on your back and run four
minute miles.

WHY??? The game itself bores me. Why should I pay money to use a stretch of
lawn for a game that bores me?

On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:48:29 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:52:58 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:08:39 -0700, witfal wrote:

On 2007-09-21 16:45:50 -0700, "JoeSpareBedroom"

said:
Joe...no offense intended...but get to the gym, man.

Assuming that's you, of course.


It's me, and I agree halfway. It's about 20% shirt and bad
picture
angle.
But still, I saw that picture and said PHUQUE! This isn't good.
Got
back
to
hiking 3 miles a day on some outrageous hills, carrying 50 lbs
in
a
backpack
and 20 lbs in each hand for resistance. I've been in size 34
jeans
since
1970, went to 35 two years ago. I will NOT continue in that
direction.
Not.

I don't know how tall you are, but you should strive for no higher
than
18 percent body fat. You'll live longer, and keep diabetes away.
A
good thing.

15-16% would be better. I pack 13 and, at age 54, it's tough
getting
lower unless you spend some time every day lifting followed by
cardio.

Golf - walking.

A game for pansies. Sounds right, johnny.

You've walked 7000 yards with a golf bag on your bag full of clubs
and
balls, right?

Try it, and then come and call names.


Is that why you play it? For the weight lifting exercise?


My initial reason for even considering it was the idea of getting the
exercise. It's much more appealing than a treadmill.

No, I don't carry my bag, so I'm not into it for the weight lifting
exercise. I'm 6' 3.5" and weigh, as of yesterday, 196 lbs. So I'm not
in
the shape you are.


So, your question about the 7000 yards with a bag full of clubs was
meaningless, since you don't carry it.


No, you were the one talking about walking with the weight on your back.
I
was suggesting an alternative. I don't *need* to walk with a lot of
weight
on my back. My doctor just pushes exercise, which I'm getting.

Doug, I'm not trying to be sarcastic or start a ****ing contest with
you.
I
saw the picture, I read your comments, I offered a way to get the
exercise
the doctor suggested and do something enjoyable and challenging at the
same
time.

I find golf to be a complete snore. I've tried it. And, it's certainly not
strenuous enough to have any real value to me.


Change courses.

If you walked four miles, carrying your clubs, with some hills and
valleys,
and you didn't work up a sweat, then put 150lbs on your back and run four
minute miles.

WHY??? The game itself bores me. Why should I pay money to use a stretch of
lawn for a game that bores me?


You shouldn't.

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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:48:29 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:31:21 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:17:00 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"John H." wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:52:58 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
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On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:08:39 -0700, witfal
wrote:

On 2007-09-21 16:45:50 -0700, "JoeSpareBedroom"

said:
Joe...no offense intended...but get to the gym, man.

Assuming that's you, of course.


It's me, and I agree halfway. It's about 20% shirt and bad
picture
angle.
But still, I saw that picture and said PHUQUE! This isn't
good.
Got
back
to
hiking 3 miles a day on some outrageous hills, carrying 50 lbs
in
a
backpack
and 20 lbs in each hand for resistance. I've been in size 34
jeans
since
1970, went to 35 two years ago. I will NOT continue in that
direction.
Not.

I don't know how tall you are, but you should strive for no
higher
than
18 percent body fat. You'll live longer, and keep diabetes
away.
A
good thing.

15-16% would be better. I pack 13 and, at age 54, it's tough
getting
lower unless you spend some time every day lifting followed by
cardio.

Golf - walking.

A game for pansies. Sounds right, johnny.

You've walked 7000 yards with a golf bag on your bag full of clubs
and
balls, right?

Try it, and then come and call names.


Is that why you play it? For the weight lifting exercise?


My initial reason for even considering it was the idea of getting
the
exercise. It's much more appealing than a treadmill.

No, I don't carry my bag, so I'm not into it for the weight lifting
exercise. I'm 6' 3.5" and weigh, as of yesterday, 196 lbs. So I'm
not
in
the shape you are.


So, your question about the 7000 yards with a bag full of clubs was
meaningless, since you don't carry it.


No, you were the one talking about walking with the weight on your
back.
I
was suggesting an alternative. I don't *need* to walk with a lot of
weight
on my back. My doctor just pushes exercise, which I'm getting.

Doug, I'm not trying to be sarcastic or start a ****ing contest with
you.
I
saw the picture, I read your comments, I offered a way to get the
exercise
the doctor suggested and do something enjoyable and challenging at the
same
time.

I find golf to be a complete snore. I've tried it. And, it's certainly
not
strenuous enough to have any real value to me.


Change courses.

If you walked four miles, carrying your clubs, with some hills and
valleys,
and you didn't work up a sweat, then put 150lbs on your back and run
four
minute miles.

WHY??? The game itself bores me. Why should I pay money to use a stretch
of
lawn for a game that bores me?


You shouldn't.

John, you're never alone with a schizophrenic. (thank you Joe Walsh)

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:


WHY??? The game itself bores me. Why should I pay money to use a stretch of
lawn for a game that bores me?



You find gardening exciting? Gardening is fine but it's...gardening.

Maybe golf is too expensive for you. That wouldn't be a reason to trash
others who can afford to play the game.

"Dan" intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote in message
.. .
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:


WHY??? The game itself bores me. Why should I pay money to use a stretch
of lawn for a game that bores me?

You find gardening exciting? Gardening is fine but it's...gardening.

Maybe golf is too expensive for you. That wouldn't be a reason to trash
others who can afford to play the game.


Interesting conclusion. Missed your lithium this evening?

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Dan" intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote in message
.. .
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

WHY??? The game itself bores me. Why should I pay money to use a stretch
of lawn for a game that bores me?
You find gardening exciting? Gardening is fine but it's...gardening.

Maybe golf is too expensive for you. That wouldn't be a reason to trash
others who can afford to play the game.


Interesting conclusion. Missed your lithium this evening?



What conclusion, Doug?

I don't take lithium and I don't even know why people do. You seem to
be an expert on that drug for some reason.

"Dan" intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote in message
.. .
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Dan" intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote in message
.. .
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

WHY??? The game itself bores me. Why should I pay money to use a
stretch of lawn for a game that bores me?
You find gardening exciting? Gardening is fine but it's...gardening.

Maybe golf is too expensive for you. That wouldn't be a reason to trash
others who can afford to play the game.


Interesting conclusion. Missed your lithium this evening?

What conclusion, Doug?

"too expensive"

Having problems following the discussion?



I don't take lithium and I don't even know why people do. You seem to be
an expert on that drug for some reason.

That's a lame tactic, claiming that knowledge of a drug means a person is a
user.

On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 04:16:52 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Dan" intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Dan" intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote in message
.. .
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

WHY??? The game itself bores me. Why should I pay money to use a
stretch of lawn for a game that bores me?
You find gardening exciting? Gardening is fine but it's...gardening.

Maybe golf is too expensive for you. That wouldn't be a reason to trash
others who can afford to play the game.


Interesting conclusion. Missed your lithium this evening?

What conclusion, Doug?

"too expensive"

Having problems following the discussion?



I don't take lithium and I don't even know why people do. You seem to be
an expert on that drug for some reason.

That's a lame tactic, claiming that knowledge of a drug means a person is a
user.


He made no such claim, Doug. But, isn't lithium what is used in some
batteries?

"John H." wrote in message
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On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 04:16:52 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Dan" intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Dan" intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote in message
.. .
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

WHY??? The game itself bores me. Why should I pay money to use a
stretch of lawn for a game that bores me?
You find gardening exciting? Gardening is fine but it's...gardening.

Maybe golf is too expensive for you. That wouldn't be a reason to
trash
others who can afford to play the game.


Interesting conclusion. Missed your lithium this evening?

What conclusion, Doug?

"too expensive"

Having problems following the discussion?



I don't take lithium and I don't even know why people do. You seem to
be
an expert on that drug for some reason.

That's a lame tactic, claiming that knowledge of a drug means a person is
a
user.


He made no such claim, Doug. But, isn't lithium what is used in some
batteries?


Yes it is. Is also the drug of choice for Bipolar disorder or Manic
Depression as it was known in the past days. A disease that I would wish on
no one. I know about it because of a relative by marriage suffered for it
until she died of old age.

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 04:16:52 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Dan" intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Dan" intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote in message
.. .
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

WHY??? The game itself bores me. Why should I pay money to use a
stretch of lawn for a game that bores me?
You find gardening exciting? Gardening is fine but it's...gardening.

Maybe golf is too expensive for you. That wouldn't be a reason to
trash
others who can afford to play the game.


Interesting conclusion. Missed your lithium this evening?

What conclusion, Doug?

"too expensive"

Having problems following the discussion?



I don't take lithium and I don't even know why people do. You seem to
be
an expert on that drug for some reason.

That's a lame tactic, claiming that knowledge of a drug means a person is
a
user.


He made no such claim, Doug.

Stick around a little longer and you'll begin to see a pattern. Certain
types seem to share a playbook. I think it comes from talk radio.