"HK" wrote in message
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Surely not the USS Coates?

A little bit newer than that, but not by much. USS Van Voorhis (DE-1028)
and then later on USS Lester, (DE-1022). Both were built in the mid 50's
and were basically low cost antisubmarine warfare platforms.

Eisboch

"HK" wrote in message
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I've run on the ICW at night in Georgia and in Florida. Without a lot of
local knowledge, it can be very, very dangerous. The visual aids are
virtually non-existent, the waterway snakes this way and that, in places
there is virtually no transition from channel depths to shoal, there are
small boaters scattered about and sometimes their boats don't show up on
radar.


Based on the recommendations of seasoned ICW travelers, I bypassed Georgia
completely and ran offshore on the trip south on the Navigator. We
alternated "inside" and "outside" in Florida, visiting Fernandian Beach, St.
Augustine, Titusville, and then offshore to Jupiter.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Surely not the USS Coates?

A little bit newer than that, but not by much. USS Van Voorhis (DE-1028)
and then later on USS Lester, (DE-1022). Both were built in the mid 50's
and were basically low cost antisubmarine warfare platforms.

Eisboch



I wonder if the Coates is still on station in the harbor. I haven't been
back to New Haven in many, many years.

Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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I've run on the ICW at night in Georgia and in Florida. Without a lot of
local knowledge, it can be very, very dangerous. The visual aids are
virtually non-existent, the waterway snakes this way and that, in places
there is virtually no transition from channel depths to shoal, there are
small boaters scattered about and sometimes their boats don't show up on
radar.


Based on the recommendations of seasoned ICW travelers, I bypassed Georgia
completely and ran offshore on the trip south on the Navigator. We
alternated "inside" and "outside" in Florida, visiting Fernandian Beach, St.
Augustine, Titusville, and then offshore to Jupiter.

Eisboch




Well, if you are ever in the area at the beginning of May, check out the
Fernindina Shrimp (and art) Festival. Great art, interesting shows, and
super food.

http://www.shrimpfestival.com/

On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 08:19:02 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I roughly calculated that with two qualified
captains, running non-stop, our GB could make it from Cape Cod to St.
Augustine, FL in about a week, and still have about 25 percent of it's fuel
capacity remaining.

That's about right but you might get beaten up a bit if you go
offshore without stabilizers. We have made two runs north from the
Port St Lucie area to Long Island Sound in 10 days with only a few all
night runs. We could make that trip in about 5 days running
continuously.

Different horses for different courses. I'd be happy to challenge
Harry's Parker to a race to Bermuda. :-)

Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 08:19:02 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I roughly calculated that with two qualified
captains, running non-stop, our GB could make it from Cape Cod to St.
Augustine, FL in about a week, and still have about 25 percent of it's fuel
capacity remaining.

That's about right but you might get beaten up a bit if you go
offshore without stabilizers. We have made two runs north from the
Port St Lucie area to Long Island Sound in 10 days with only a few all
night runs. We could make that trip in about 5 days running
continuously.

Different horses for different courses. I'd be happy to challenge
Harry's Parker to a race to Bermuda. :-)

I can fly to Bermuda in about an hour and a half, if memory serves. I
can't think of a single reason why I'd want to get there in a slow,
floating RV like your boat that wallows its way there. Bermuda is about
650 miles off the North Carolina coast. What's that for you in the open
ocean, three to four days? In three to four days, I could have been on
the beach, gone fishing and snorkeling, eaten in any number of good
restaurants, and visited all the bars and clubs that James Bond never
really hit.

I find small boat travel tedious and boring. Sorry.

wrote in news:1190347639.469976.197090
@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com:

I believe you. I just saw a yacht that if you were to fill it up at
the gas station it would cost you quarter million dollars to top it
up. SICK !!




These fuel guzzlers don't belong to "people". They belong to their
owner's corporations who use them to reduce their tax loads, recovering a
good bit of the fuel costs in taxes saved.

If Mr X got paid $100K, himself, to buy the fuel, he'd only have half of
that, just for demo, or $50K after taxes to buy fuel at retail, say
$3/gallon. 50/3 = under 17000 gallons. Now, if Mr X's corporation owns
his yacht, and they buy $100K at $3/gallon = 33,000 gallons with it as an
expense, given their 40% tax load, he gets 33000 gallons for $60K after
the deduction...a MARKED savings on fuel costs.

Mr X, therefore, never buys fuel. Hell, he never buys anything! It's
NOT HIS BOAT!...(c;

Larry
--
It's not my truck, either....(c;

HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 08:19:02 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I roughly calculated that with two qualified captains, running
non-stop, our GB could make it from Cape Cod to St. Augustine, FL in
about a week, and still have about 25 percent of it's fuel capacity
remaining.

That's about right but you might get beaten up a bit if you go
offshore without stabilizers. We have made two runs north from the
Port St Lucie area to Long Island Sound in 10 days with only a few all
night runs. We could make that trip in about 5 days running
continuously.

Different horses for different courses. I'd be happy to challenge
Harry's Parker to a race to Bermuda. :-)

I can fly to Bermuda in about an hour and a half, if memory serves. I
can't think of a single reason why I'd want to get there in a slow,
floating RV like your boat that wallows its way there. Bermuda is about
650 miles off the North Carolina coast. What's that for you in the open
ocean, three to four days? In three to four days, I could have been on
the beach, gone fishing and snorkeling, eaten in any number of good
restaurants, and visited all the bars and clubs that James Bond never
really hit.

I find small boat travel tedious and boring. Sorry.

Wayne,
When Harry says he likes boating, he means he likes to go out fishing
for 30 or 45 min. and then return to rec.boats and talk about it for the
next month.

On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 11:55:51 -0400, HK wrote:

I find small boat travel tedious and boring. Sorry.

Nothing to be sorry about, an LT Parker is clearly the wrong boat for
the trip, and an ocean going trawler is clearly the wrong boat for
*you*.

Flying is a good choice.

On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:56:45 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

When Harry says he likes boating, he means he likes to go out fishing
for 30 or 45 min. and then return to rec.boats and talk about it for the
next month.

Of course what he really likes most of all is sparring with the other
residents of rec.boats, or reading about others who would like to spar
with him. Perhaps we should indulge him a little less but I have come
to enjoy poking him with a sharp stick once in awhile, just to let the
air out.

Moderation in all things however... :-)