I am thinking of Atlantic crossing for some time in my tiny power boat,
Bayliner 30 footer Aft. bridge. I am doing some changes in boat to get it
ready for this trip.

1. Replacing the Gas engine with diesel cauz diesel gives more milage plus
its cheap in Europe as compare to gas.
2. Adding extra fuel tanks to carry diesel fuel.
3. Installing small wind generator for extra electrical power on boat.
4. As back up source, installing 1000watts solar panels and small diesel
generator.
5. Another idea of using some kind of alteration on my outboard unit to
drive it with electric motor as well as engine. Havn't done the calculation
yet but I am sure it is possible. With extra onboard electric power I think
it is possible to use DC motor to drive the propeller shaft atleast for some
time and then switch over to diesel engine.
6. Another wild idea is to add flying kite thingy to my boat for extra pull
under good wind situation, here is the link if some of you is not familar
with this thing: http://www.kiteship.com/id2.html
7. I've already installed small sea water to fresh water converting unit, so
no worries to carry extra water.
8. Getting all the communication equipments like GPS, HF Radio bla bla.

Now the last thing .... what route ? should I use Northern route to cut down
the long leg in sea like From New York to Halifax, St. John, Greenland,
Iceland, Scottland and then onward.

Or should I go through southern route which most of the sailing boats
normally use, like from Florida to Panamma, Ponta Delgada and Gibraltor etc.

I know it sounds like a crazy idea but hey peoples are doing it on rowing
boats, why can't I do it.

I am open to suggestions from Folks, Please give me your best shot or any
good advise that help me or warn me of any dangers that I should be aware
off besides normal open sea encounter. Any other thing that I am over
looking here in my preparation ?

What month is better ? Which route is good North or South ?

On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 12:16:22 -0500, "Awsome" wrote:

I am thinking of Atlantic crossing for some time in my tiny power boat,
Bayliner 30 footer Aft. bridge. I am doing some changes in boat to get it
ready for this trip.

1. Replacing the Gas engine with diesel cauz diesel gives more milage plus
its cheap in Europe as compare to gas.
2. Adding extra fuel tanks to carry diesel fuel.
3. Installing small wind generator for extra electrical power on boat.
4. As back up source, installing 1000watts solar panels and small diesel
generator.
5. Another idea of using some kind of alteration on my outboard unit to
drive it with electric motor as well as engine. Havn't done the calculation
yet but I am sure it is possible. With extra onboard electric power I think
it is possible to use DC motor to drive the propeller shaft atleast for some
time and then switch over to diesel engine.
6. Another wild idea is to add flying kite thingy to my boat for extra pull
under good wind situation, here is the link if some of you is not familar
with this thing: http://www.kiteship.com/id2.html
7. I've already installed small sea water to fresh water converting unit, so
no worries to carry extra water.
8. Getting all the communication equipments like GPS, HF Radio bla bla.

Now the last thing .... what route ? should I use Northern route to cut down
the long leg in sea like From New York to Halifax, St. John, Greenland,
Iceland, Scottland and then onward.

Or should I go through southern route which most of the sailing boats
normally use, like from Florida to Panamma, Ponta Delgada and Gibraltor etc.

I know it sounds like a crazy idea but hey peoples are doing it on rowing
boats, why can't I do it.

I am open to suggestions from Folks, Please give me your best shot or any
good advise that help me or warn me of any dangers that I should be aware
off besides normal open sea encounter. Any other thing that I am over
looking here in my preparation ?

What month is better ? Which route is good North or South ?



Harry will have a lot of those answers, but he's fishing today.
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, bride of mine, it's just a fetus!"

Hypocrital Liberal

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 12:16:22 -0500, "Awsome" wrote:


I am thinking of Atlantic crossing for some time in my tiny power boat,
Bayliner 30 footer Aft. bridge. I am doing some changes in boat to get it
ready for this trip.

1. Replacing the Gas engine with diesel cauz diesel gives more milage plus
its cheap in Europe as compare to gas.
2. Adding extra fuel tanks to carry diesel fuel.
3. Installing small wind generator for extra electrical power on boat.
4. As back up source, installing 1000watts solar panels and small diesel
generator.
5. Another idea of using some kind of alteration on my outboard unit to
drive it with electric motor as well as engine. Havn't done the calculation
yet but I am sure it is possible. With extra onboard electric power I think
it is possible to use DC motor to drive the propeller shaft atleast for some
time and then switch over to diesel engine.
6. Another wild idea is to add flying kite thingy to my boat for extra pull
under good wind situation, here is the link if some of you is not familar
with this thing: http://www.kiteship.com/id2.html
7. I've already installed small sea water to fresh water converting unit, so
no worries to carry extra water.
8. Getting all the communication equipments like GPS, HF Radio bla bla.

Now the last thing .... what route ? should I use Northern route to cut down
the long leg in sea like From New York to Halifax, St. John, Greenland,
Iceland, Scottland and then onward.

Or should I go through southern route which most of the sailing boats
normally use, like from Florida to Panamma, Ponta Delgada and Gibraltor etc.

I know it sounds like a crazy idea but hey peoples are doing it on rowing
boats, why can't I do it.

I am open to suggestions from Folks, Please give me your best shot or any
good advise that help me or warn me of any dangers that I should be aware
off besides normal open sea encounter. Any other thing that I am over
looking here in my preparation ?

What month is better ? Which route is good North or South ?




Harry will have a lot of those answers, but he's fishing today.

Might depend on time of year. the window a smaller boat would enjoy on
a northern crossing is pretty small..... maybe May/June till
September/October??

last year a fleet of nordhavn trawlers made the trip. google for
magazine articles online. or go to the nordhavn website.

two suggested routes in may or june:

US to bermuda to azores to portugal

US to bahamas, hispanola, puerto rico, virgins antigue to azores to
portugal.
editor
http://www.marineenginedigest.com

"John H." wrote:

On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 12:16:22 -0500, "Awsome" wrote:

I am thinking of Atlantic crossing for some time in my tiny power boat,
Bayliner 30 footer Aft. bridge. I am doing some changes in boat to get it
ready for this trip.

Harry will have a lot of those answers, but he's fishing today.

Nothin' special about today, as Krause can be found trolling 365 days a
year. You'd think someone so practiced would be much better at it. That
said, I doubt Mr. Jerkbait will be up to such an adventurous Challenge.
Just check the archives under 'challenge'. You'll find Krause is
strictly "nothin' doin'" when it come to competing against those highly
modified Bayliners.

Besides, just sit right back and you'll hear a tale, a tale of a fateful
trip. That started from a tropic port, aboard a tiny ship. The mate was
a mighty sailin' man, the Skipper brave and sure. Five passengers set
sail that day, for a three hour tour, a three hour tour... ... ...

The weather started getting rough, the tiny ship was Tostito tossed. If
not for the courage of the fearless crew, the Minnow would be lost; the
Minnow would be lost.

So this is the tale of our castaways, they're here for a long, long
time. They'll have to make the best of things, it's an uphill climb.
Harry and the Skipper too, will do their very best, to make the others
comfortable, in this tropic island nest.

So join us here each day my friend, you're sure to get a smile. From
these stranded castaways, here on Gilligan's Isle.

--
Skipper

"Awsome" wrote in message
. ..
Any other thing that I am over
looking here in my preparation ?

Yes. A bigger boat that doesn't say Bayliner on the side.

Awsome wrote:
I am thinking of Atlantic crossing for some time in my tiny power boat,
Bayliner 30 footer Aft. bridge. I am doing some changes in boat to get it
ready for this trip.

1. Replacing the Gas engine with diesel cauz diesel gives more milage plus
its cheap in Europe as compare to gas.
2. Adding extra fuel tanks to carry diesel fuel.
3. Installing small wind generator for extra electrical power on boat.
4. As back up source, installing 1000watts solar panels and small diesel
generator.
5. Another idea of using some kind of alteration on my outboard unit to
drive it with electric motor as well as engine. Havn't done the calculation
yet but I am sure it is possible. With extra onboard electric power I think
it is possible to use DC motor to drive the propeller shaft atleast for some
time and then switch over to diesel engine.
6. Another wild idea is to add flying kite thingy to my boat for extra pull
under good wind situation, here is the link if some of you is not familar
with this thing: http://www.kiteship.com/id2.html
7. I've already installed small sea water to fresh water converting unit, so
no worries to carry extra water.
8. Getting all the communication equipments like GPS, HF Radio bla bla.

Now the last thing .... what route ? should I use Northern route to cut down
the long leg in sea like From New York to Halifax, St. John, Greenland,
Iceland, Scottland and then onward.

Or should I go through southern route which most of the sailing boats
normally use, like from Florida to Panamma, Ponta Delgada and Gibraltor etc.

I know it sounds like a crazy idea but hey peoples are doing it on rowing
boats, why can't I do it.

I am open to suggestions from Folks, Please give me your best shot or any
good advise that help me or warn me of any dangers that I should be aware
off besides normal open sea encounter. Any other thing that I am over
looking here in my preparation ?

What month is better ? Which route is good North or South ?



This isn't a cruise, it's a stunt.

Go back to square one. The vessel you have in mind is completely
unsuited to a voyage of this distance. As you add extra fuel tanks, you
will be adding a *lot* of extra weight that a 30-foot Bayliner was
never designed to manage. You will completely violating the original
design parameters of the boat. With your fuel tanks full, you will have
about enough freeboard to safely encounter 3-inch seas.

The fact that *nobody* is likely to sell you insurance, at any premium
at all, should tell you something about this plan.

You'd need to do a complete study regarding whether or not burning your
limited supply of diesel in a genset to create electrical power to
drive an electrical outboard makes any sense at all. It might be more
efficient to simply burn the fuel in the main engine.

There are countless opportunities to go adventuring in a 30-foot
Bayliner, in inland or short range near-coastal situations that the
boat was designed to handle. You can have the time of your life without
having to set out across the Atlantic. Why not use the boat in a
reasonable manner and acquire a more suitable craft for the
trans-oceanic voyage?

In article , awsome0
@comcast.net says...
I am thinking of Atlantic crossing for some time in my tiny power boat,
Bayliner 30 footer Aft. bridge. I am doing some changes in boat to get it
ready for this trip.

Is it waterproof?

Most passagemakers have the ability to completely seal the vessel to
prevent sinking.

jps

wrote:

Awsome wrote:

I am thinking of Atlantic crossing for some time in my tiny power boat,

I am open to suggestions from Folks, Please give me your best shot or any
good advise that help me or warn me of any dangers that I should be aware
off besides normal open sea encounter. Any other thing that I am over
looking here in my preparation ?

What month is better ? Which route is good North or South ?

This isn't a cruise, it's a stunt.

Go back to square one. The vessel you have in mind is completely
unsuited to a voyage of this distance.

Some NG readers recognize a troll when they see it. Perhaps other, more
unscrupulous NG netizens, take advantage of these trolls to advance
their scurrilous NW boat shilling agendas.

--
Skipper

Gene Kearns wrote:

Yes. A bigger boat that doesn't say Bayliner on the side.

Hooo-Boy.... you are going to get on Skipper's bad side with comments
like that....

See, in 1997 or so, Skipper boasted that he spent hours in "fierce
seas" in 25'-30' waves in the Sea of Cortez in his highly modified
2252 Bayliner. He was with two bodies, one of which went into shock!
They spent the evening at sea and all they got for their trouble was a
realization of the, "importance of getting current weather information
while at sea, even IF that report is in Spanish"

A troll is a troll, Gene, even if that troll calls your wife with an
unwelcome phone call at your home. That said, you might want to check
your source for your above comments. Believe you might just find those
seas were experience in a *sailboat*...and 40 years ago. Does that
change the point you're trying to make? Catch a clue here, Gene,
electronic communications in remote sections of the Cortez were a bit
primitive in those days. You might even find posts were I described the
port of San Carlos before building one was ever built there.

So, what is your point, Gene?

--
Skipper