On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:06:17 -0400, HK wrote:

I'll leave the stripes to the Grand Banks crowd.

Stripes?

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On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:36:13 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:06:17 -0400, HK wrote:

I'll leave the stripes to the Grand Banks crowd.

Stripes?

http://share.shutterfly.com/action/w...AaOGTlo0Zt2LlI


Nice. I noted chairs and TV that didn't appear to be secured.
How do you handle that in the rough?

--Vic

On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:09:20 -0500, Vic Smith
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Nice. I noted chairs and TV that didn't appear to be secured.
How do you handle that in the rough?

Funny you should mention that. The boat has active stabilizer fins
that are driven by a gyroscope and hydraulic actuators. They do a
really good job of keeping the boat on an even keel in most
conditions. The down side is that they depend on forward motion to do
their job.

The first year we owned the boat we were waiting for a drawbridge
opening at Sanibel Island Causeway when a large express cruiser went
flying by leaving a 3 foot wake. That particular TV bit the dust in a
big way. Fortunately we had the carpeting down in the main cabin so
that nice teak parquet floor survived unscathed.

We have now replaced the television with a flat panel unit which is
perched on top of a satellite TV receiver and DVD player. The DVD
player is attached to the counter top with super duty velcro, and the
sat receiver and flat panel are all attached to each other with the
same velcro. So far so good after 3 years and 10,000 miles.

The chairs are usually on carpet which provides enough friction to
keep them from sliding in all but rough offshore conditions. For that
we have a long piece of 3/8ths shock cord which loops around all 4
chairs and holds everything together.

On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:40:38 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:09:20 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

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Nice. I noted chairs and TV that didn't appear to be secured.
How do you handle that in the rough?

Funny you should mention that. The boat has active stabilizer fins
that are driven by a gyroscope and hydraulic actuators. They do a
really good job of keeping the boat on an even keel in most
conditions. The down side is that they depend on forward motion to do
their job.

The first year we owned the boat we were waiting for a drawbridge
opening at Sanibel Island Causeway when a large express cruiser went
flying by leaving a 3 foot wake. That particular TV bit the dust in a
big way. Fortunately we had the carpeting down in the main cabin so
that nice teak parquet floor survived unscathed.

No surprise. I think I once wrote about entering a liquor store
directly after a couple weeks in fairly rough seas. At the counter
I looked up to see floor to ceiling bottles, and for a second had a
real scare *knowing* they would crash down on me.
Hasn't happened since, but I think the "flying object" syndrome always
kicks in when I'm viewing a boat.
The "big wake" issue is the one that concerns me the most as I prepare
to boat. Of course my boat will be smaller than yours. It just seems
from reading about it - I've read examples of sailboaters out of
cockpit and topside getting pitched in the drink - that's it's the
biggest PITA for small-boaters, and unavoidable.

--Vic

On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:09:05 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

I've read examples of sailboaters out of
cockpit and topside getting pitched in the drink - that's it's the
biggest PITA for small-boaters, and unavoidable.

I actually saw that happen once. Fortunately they got him back
onboard OK. Single handed could have been an entirely different
outcome. In the end it comes to situational awareness, having the
right equipment such as jack lines/harnesses/lifelines, and taking
reasonable precautions.

Small sailboats are a lot of fun but they have a number of risky
aspects other than power boat wakes that you need to be prepared for.

Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:06:17 -0400, HK wrote:

I'll leave the stripes to the Grand Banks crowd.

Stripes?

http://share.shutterfly.com/action/w...AaOGTlo0Zt2LlI

Damn, I can't figure out which boat I want. Now if the Grand Banks only
had a stripe on it, it would be so easy.

On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:06:11 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:06:17 -0400, HK wrote:

I'll leave the stripes to the Grand Banks crowd.

Stripes?

http://share.shutterfly.com/action/w...AaOGTlo0Zt2LlI

Damn, I can't figure out which boat I want. Now if the Grand Banks only
had a stripe on it, it would be so easy.

I couldn't find the stripe either, and the transom looks entirely too
seaworthy.

Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:06:11 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:06:17 -0400, HK wrote:

I'll leave the stripes to the Grand Banks crowd.
Stripes?

http://share.shutterfly.com/action/w...AaOGTlo0Zt2LlI
Damn, I can't figure out which boat I want. Now if the Grand Banks only
had a stripe on it, it would be so easy.

I couldn't find the stripe either, and the transom looks entirely too
seaworthy.


Hey, if you like barges, yours is one of the ones to get. Me, I'd rather
stay in a good hotel.

On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:44:28 -0400, HK wrote:

Hey, if you like barges, yours is one of the ones to get. Me, I'd rather
stay in a good hotel.

Barge:

http://www.anwr.org/gallery/pages/36-Barge.htm

Grand Banks Trawler:

http://www.marlowmarine.com/images/cinsubar%20.jpg

Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:44:28 -0400, HK wrote:

Hey, if you like barges, yours is one of the ones to get. Me, I'd rather
stay in a good hotel.

Barge:

http://www.anwr.org/gallery/pages/36-Barge.htm

Grand Banks Trawler:

http://www.marlowmarine.com/images/cinsubar%20.jpg


I like the looks of the smaller, older GB trawlers, but not the larger
ones. The larger ones look like slabsided barges to me. Sorry.

If I were buying a trawlerRV, I'd want something a bit more "shippy"
looking, at least to my taste, than a big GB.