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Vic Smith September 7th 07 06:04 PM

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On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:55:56 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 12:47:00 -0500, John H.
wrote:



Ah, something on which we agree! I grew up on fried rabbit.


Taste like chicken? Never had it myself, though I've had turtle
and squirrel once each. The squirrel wasn't cooked right and
was tough and tasteless. The turtle tasted...like chicken.

--Vic



http://www.recipeland.com/recipe/6378/

Thanks. The link didn't work. But that's good.
My doctor told me not to eat rodents.

--Vic

D.Duck September 7th 07 06:06 PM

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wrote in message
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On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:01:41 -0400, HK wrote:

It did to me. Tom said he carried a single action hammerless revolver.
I was curious how he cocked it. So there!



I thought it was a joke ... sort of like "write only storage"


PROM?



JoeSpareBedroom September 7th 07 06:07 PM

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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:55:56 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 12:47:00 -0500, John H.
wrote:



Ah, something on which we agree! I grew up on fried rabbit.

Taste like chicken? Never had it myself, though I've had turtle
and squirrel once each. The squirrel wasn't cooked right and
was tough and tasteless. The turtle tasted...like chicken.

--Vic



http://www.recipeland.com/recipe/6378/

Thanks. The link didn't work.


Your browser is retarded.



John H. September 7th 07 06:18 PM

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On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:53:52 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:13:29 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:50:24 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 10:46:02 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:02:55 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 13:25:54 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 00:00:17 -0400, wrote:

The winner was always an old sargent who took his time and shot down
one per round, with a 2" revolver.

I have said for years that the reason is due to 13 round semi-auto
hand guns.

With a revolver, you only have six - makes you concentrate.

One of my favorite gun technique books suggests taking only 6 rounds to the
range, no matter what kind of handgun you're shooting. Good idea.

All my kids were trained that way. In fact, when my youngest went to
the Academy in SC, he noticed that the more bullets they were issues,
the more the used them.

He took his time, minimum shots and did well.

It's the revolver training.

I have a 9mm Glock, but I never carry it unless I'm in the woods. For
just carrying purposes, it's a .357 mag on a .38 frame.

Don't you mean that the other way around? My Highway Patrolman shoots .38's
but is a .357 magnum frame (and shoots them!).

Nope - just the way I spake it.


Wouldn't a gun with a frame built for .38's be somewhat unsafe with a bunch
of .357 mags going through it?


What part of this is so hard to understand?

The gun is a .357 mag built on a .38 frame.

Ruger SP101

Hello? Anybody home?

You god damned people will agrue about anything.

I'm outa here for a while.

Morons.


No argument exists. I was simply asking a question. I looked for
information on the Ruger SP101, but could find nothing saying the frame was
built for .38's.

Now I'm 'god damned' and a 'moron'.

I'm sorry you're ****ed. But, if I said I had a .38 on a .22 frame,
wouldn't you wonder a little?

Vic Smith September 7th 07 06:19 PM

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On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 17:07:58 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:



Thanks. The link didn't work.


Your browser is retarded.

Sure it did. But if I let you know that the joke wouldn't work.
Assuming you got the joke. Assuming it *was* a joke.

--Vic

Vic Smith September 7th 07 06:29 PM

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On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 13:23:40 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 12:30:51 -0400, "JimH" ask
wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 12:05:26 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:41:55 -0400, Reginald P. Smithers III penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Gene Kearns wrote:

I agree the wildlife should be able to use any available habitat even
if
it is our lawn, our lake, our vegetable garden or our flowers.

Not with my azaleas, vegetables, and etc. they don't. I live in a
rural area and the critters that think they can ravage my little part
of the universe (I've let them have about 80% of my property for their
use) end up next to my mashed potatoes and green beans.

My wife has an extensive garden. She hates rabbits.

--Vic

Let the wildlife use any available habitat? Is he crazy? (no need to
answer that one)

Hey, who's crazy. The critter lovers or the guy who thinks he's
growing mashed potatoes?

--Vic


The person who thinks wildlife should be able to use any available habitat
including folks gardens, shrubs and other things they grew. I have no
problem watching hummingbirds and butterflies sipping the nectar from our
flowers. I do have a problem with bambi and company eating the flowers and
greenery we planted.

Totally agree. That's Smithers.
But I still find it odd that Gene grows mashed potatoes.
So it's still a tossup.

--Vic

JoeSpareBedroom September 7th 07 06:38 PM

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"John H." wrote in message
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On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:51:59 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:20:21 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
m...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:53:52 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:13:29 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:50:24 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 10:46:02 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:02:55 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 13:25:54 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news:u382e3ts8i22s7a6hjrvd4abtcu8s4o465 @4ax.com...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 00:00:17 -0400, wrote:

The winner was always an old sargent who took his time and shot
down
one per round, with a 2" revolver.

I have said for years that the reason is due to 13 round
semi-auto
hand guns.

With a revolver, you only have six - makes you concentrate.

One of my favorite gun technique books suggests taking only 6
rounds
to the
range, no matter what kind of handgun you're shooting. Good idea.

All my kids were trained that way. In fact, when my youngest went
to
the Academy in SC, he noticed that the more bullets they were
issues,
the more the used them.

He took his time, minimum shots and did well.

It's the revolver training.

I have a 9mm Glock, but I never carry it unless I'm in the woods.
For
just carrying purposes, it's a .357 mag on a .38 frame.

Don't you mean that the other way around? My Highway Patrolman
shoots
.38's
but is a .357 magnum frame (and shoots them!).

Nope - just the way I spake it.

Wouldn't a gun with a frame built for .38's be somewhat unsafe with a
bunch
of .357 mags going through it?

What part of this is so hard to understand?

The gun is a .357 mag built on a .38 frame.

Ruger SP101

Hello? Anybody home?

You god damned people will agrue about anything.

I'm outa here for a while.

Morons.

No argument exists. I was simply asking a question. I looked for
information on the Ruger SP101, but could find nothing saying the
frame
was
built for .38's.


Look at the top strap, Einstein.


Ah, another name-caller!

Enlighten me, please. I am certainly no expert on pistols. What is a
'top
strap'?

Is there one in this photo?

http://tinyurl.com/lw55


Yes, there is. See the black grip with the silver screw holding it on?
That's actually called the top strap.


Those are grip inserts. I've never heard them called 'top straps'. Do they
have a stamp on them somewhere saying the frame is a .38 caliber frame?


No. You just have to know these things. One high-tech way of knowing is to
read a lot.



John H. September 7th 07 06:45 PM

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On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:20:21 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:53:52 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:13:29 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:50:24 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 10:46:02 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:02:55 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 13:25:54 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news:u382e3ts8i22s7a6hjrvd4abtcu8s4o465@4a x.com...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 00:00:17 -0400, wrote:

The winner was always an old sargent who took his time and shot
down
one per round, with a 2" revolver.

I have said for years that the reason is due to 13 round semi-auto
hand guns.

With a revolver, you only have six - makes you concentrate.

One of my favorite gun technique books suggests taking only 6 rounds
to the
range, no matter what kind of handgun you're shooting. Good idea.

All my kids were trained that way. In fact, when my youngest went to
the Academy in SC, he noticed that the more bullets they were issues,
the more the used them.

He took his time, minimum shots and did well.

It's the revolver training.

I have a 9mm Glock, but I never carry it unless I'm in the woods. For
just carrying purposes, it's a .357 mag on a .38 frame.

Don't you mean that the other way around? My Highway Patrolman shoots
.38's
but is a .357 magnum frame (and shoots them!).

Nope - just the way I spake it.

Wouldn't a gun with a frame built for .38's be somewhat unsafe with a
bunch
of .357 mags going through it?

What part of this is so hard to understand?

The gun is a .357 mag built on a .38 frame.

Ruger SP101

Hello? Anybody home?

You god damned people will agrue about anything.

I'm outa here for a while.

Morons.


No argument exists. I was simply asking a question. I looked for
information on the Ruger SP101, but could find nothing saying the frame
was
built for .38's.



Look at the top strap, Einstein.


Ah, another name-caller!

Enlighten me, please. I am certainly no expert on pistols. What is a 'top
strap'?

Is there one in this photo?

http://tinyurl.com/lw55

John H. September 7th 07 06:47 PM

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On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:24:59 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 12:05:26 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:41:55 -0400, Reginald P. Smithers III penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Gene Kearns wrote:

I agree the wildlife should be able to use any available habitat even if
it is our lawn, our lake, our vegetable garden or our flowers.

Not with my azaleas, vegetables, and etc. they don't. I live in a
rural area and the critters that think they can ravage my little part
of the universe (I've let them have about 80% of my property for their
use) end up next to my mashed potatoes and green beans.


My wife has an extensive garden. She hates rabbits.

--Vic



Rabbits were put here to cook. They're delicious.


Ah, something on which we agree! I grew up on fried rabbit.

Vic Smith September 7th 07 07:01 PM

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On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 13:30:24 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:47:33 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:



I saw the Border Collies in action once, and they would swim after the
geese that lit in the water. The geese would take off after the dog
swam a short distance. I guess there's geese and geese, dogs and
dogs.

--Vic


It could also depend on the size of the pond/lake. The geese to which I'm
referring would take off and fly to the other side of the water. Poor dog
would wear himself out in no time.


Yeah, I was thinking along those lines, and forgot to mention the
lagoons weren't too wide, maybe 50 yards.
But what you said about smart geese might have something to it.
I wondered why the geese didn't fly down the lagoon a bit and land
again, but they didn't - they just flew off.
Might also be the dogs I saw somehow let the geese know something
you and me don't understand. I used to be a horseplayer, and have
read and believe that a better horse ("classier") can run up on a
cheaper horse and just by eyeballing him for a few strides make him
give up. Maybe there's a dog/goose version of that.

--Vic

John H. September 7th 07 07:30 PM

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On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:47:33 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:11:43 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:55:36 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 10:52:12 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Dogs don't work. My brother had dogs on the golf course he managed. The
geese would just fly into the water when the dog came. The dog couldn't
swim fast enough to scare the geese.

You got the wrong trainer. The dog isn't supposed to chase them into
the water.

I work with BCs here in and around golf courses and haven't ever had
that problem.

It's all in how the dogs are trained.


The dogs don't 'chase' them into the water, the friggin' geese get smart
quick and fly into the friggin' water as soon as they see the dog!

There must be some stupid friggin' geese up there!


I saw the Border Collies in action once, and they would swim after the
geese that lit in the water. The geese would take off after the dog
swam a short distance. I guess there's geese and geese, dogs and
dogs.

--Vic


It could also depend on the size of the pond/lake. The geese to which I'm
referring would take off and fly to the other side of the water. Poor dog
would wear himself out in no time.

John H. September 7th 07 07:32 PM

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On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:51:46 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 12:47:00 -0500, John H.
wrote:



Ah, something on which we agree! I grew up on fried rabbit.


Taste like chicken? Never had it myself, though I've had turtle
and squirrel once each. The squirrel wasn't cooked right and
was tough and tasteless. The turtle tasted...like chicken.

--Vic


Rabbit tastes like rabbit. Squirrel is good if cooked right. We would bread
it, fry it to a golden brown, then put it in a covered pan with a little
water and bake it for an hour or so. This got them pretty tender.

John H. September 7th 07 07:37 PM

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On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:51:59 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:20:21 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:53:52 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:13:29 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:50:24 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 10:46:02 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:02:55 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 13:25:54 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news:u382e3ts8i22s7a6hjrvd4abtcu8s4o465@ 4ax.com...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 00:00:17 -0400, wrote:

The winner was always an old sargent who took his time and shot
down
one per round, with a 2" revolver.

I have said for years that the reason is due to 13 round
semi-auto
hand guns.

With a revolver, you only have six - makes you concentrate.

One of my favorite gun technique books suggests taking only 6
rounds
to the
range, no matter what kind of handgun you're shooting. Good idea.

All my kids were trained that way. In fact, when my youngest went
to
the Academy in SC, he noticed that the more bullets they were
issues,
the more the used them.

He took his time, minimum shots and did well.

It's the revolver training.

I have a 9mm Glock, but I never carry it unless I'm in the woods.
For
just carrying purposes, it's a .357 mag on a .38 frame.

Don't you mean that the other way around? My Highway Patrolman shoots
.38's
but is a .357 magnum frame (and shoots them!).

Nope - just the way I spake it.

Wouldn't a gun with a frame built for .38's be somewhat unsafe with a
bunch
of .357 mags going through it?

What part of this is so hard to understand?

The gun is a .357 mag built on a .38 frame.

Ruger SP101

Hello? Anybody home?

You god damned people will agrue about anything.

I'm outa here for a while.

Morons.

No argument exists. I was simply asking a question. I looked for
information on the Ruger SP101, but could find nothing saying the frame
was
built for .38's.


Look at the top strap, Einstein.


Ah, another name-caller!

Enlighten me, please. I am certainly no expert on pistols. What is a 'top
strap'?

Is there one in this photo?

http://tinyurl.com/lw55


Yes, there is. See the black grip with the silver screw holding it on?
That's actually called the top strap.


Those are grip inserts. I've never heard them called 'top straps'. Do they
have a stamp on them somewhere saying the frame is a .38 caliber frame?

HK September 7th 07 07:49 PM

Oh deer!
 
Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:55:52 -0400, HK wrote:

Real purty. I sometimes use them but prefer my M5 with ACP's for the
heavy action. This is when playing SWAT 4, a terrific game.
Did I tell you I live in Morton Grove, IL?
They've outlawed bears, cougars and handguns.

--Vic

So, you keep your Israeli handgun concealed, eh?


Went over my head. I don't know much about guns, although
years ago I subscribed to Guns and was pretty advanced in my dreaming.
But there was this place in Marietta Georgia I stopped
once when I drove to Florida with a buddy. Called the Bulletstop.
Think it was '85, when the Bears played the Dolphins in the superbowl.
Shot clips from an Uzi, and a Thompson. It was fun, but expensive.
I think if I ever felt the need to "protect my family" I'd have a
Remington 12 autoloader to sleep with, and get a big pillow to keep it
under.

--Vic



Aha. I thought you were referring to a pretty decent Israeli target
pistol, made by BUL:

http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg205-e.htm

Here's some more views of the X5 I have:

http://www.sigsauer.com/Products/Sho...rodu ctid=143


JoeSpareBedroom September 7th 07 08:08 PM

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"John H." wrote in message
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On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 17:38:43 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:51:59 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
m...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:20:21 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:53:52 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:13:29 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:50:24 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 10:46:02 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:02:55 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 13:25:54 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news:u382e3ts8i22s7a6hjrvd4abtcu8s4o4 ...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 00:00:17 -0400, wrote:

The winner was always an old sargent who took his time and
shot
down
one per round, with a 2" revolver.

I have said for years that the reason is due to 13 round
semi-auto
hand guns.

With a revolver, you only have six - makes you concentrate.

One of my favorite gun technique books suggests taking only 6
rounds
to the
range, no matter what kind of handgun you're shooting. Good
idea.

All my kids were trained that way. In fact, when my youngest
went
to
the Academy in SC, he noticed that the more bullets they were
issues,
the more the used them.

He took his time, minimum shots and did well.

It's the revolver training.

I have a 9mm Glock, but I never carry it unless I'm in the
woods.
For
just carrying purposes, it's a .357 mag on a .38 frame.

Don't you mean that the other way around? My Highway Patrolman
shoots
.38's
but is a .357 magnum frame (and shoots them!).

Nope - just the way I spake it.

Wouldn't a gun with a frame built for .38's be somewhat unsafe with
a
bunch
of .357 mags going through it?

What part of this is so hard to understand?

The gun is a .357 mag built on a .38 frame.

Ruger SP101

Hello? Anybody home?

You god damned people will agrue about anything.

I'm outa here for a while.

Morons.

No argument exists. I was simply asking a question. I looked for
information on the Ruger SP101, but could find nothing saying the
frame
was
built for .38's.


Look at the top strap, Einstein.


Ah, another name-caller!

Enlighten me, please. I am certainly no expert on pistols. What is a
'top
strap'?

Is there one in this photo?

http://tinyurl.com/lw55

Yes, there is. See the black grip with the silver screw holding it on?
That's actually called the top strap.


Those are grip inserts. I've never heard them called 'top straps'. Do
they
have a stamp on them somewhere saying the frame is a .38 caliber frame?


No. You just have to know these things. One high-tech way of knowing is to
read a lot.


Well, here's the site with all the specs and such. Perhaps you could point
me to where it says the Ruger SP101 pistol is built on a .38 frame. Or,
please point me to anything that says that. I'll admit to not reading a
whole lot about pistols.


Here's a site that gives enough information for people who know something
about pistols.
http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger_SP101.htm

Call your local police station and ask whether it's legal to use google in
your town. That should help you find the information you need.



HK September 7th 07 08:18 PM

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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message



Here's a site that gives enough information for people who know something
about pistols.
http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger_SP101.htm

Call your local police station and ask whether it's legal to use google in
your town. That should help you find the information you need.



Long one of my favorite shooting sites, but you can see the desperation
in the right's politics...he's endorsed Tired Old Fred, with the same
ideas that brought us...Iraq.



Vic Smith September 7th 07 08:25 PM

Oh deer!
 
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:49:47 -0400, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:55:52 -0400, HK wrote:

Real purty. I sometimes use them but prefer my M5 with ACP's for the
heavy action. This is when playing SWAT 4, a terrific game.
Did I tell you I live in Morton Grove, IL?
They've outlawed bears, cougars and handguns.

--Vic
So, you keep your Israeli handgun concealed, eh?


Went over my head. I don't know much about guns, although
years ago I subscribed to Guns and was pretty advanced in my dreaming.
But there was this place in Marietta Georgia I stopped
once when I drove to Florida with a buddy. Called the Bulletstop.
Think it was '85, when the Bears played the Dolphins in the superbowl.
Shot clips from an Uzi, and a Thompson. It was fun, but expensive.
I think if I ever felt the need to "protect my family" I'd have a
Remington 12 autoloader to sleep with, and get a big pillow to keep it
under.

--Vic



Aha. I thought you were referring to a pretty decent Israeli target
pistol, made by BUL:

http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg205-e.htm

Here's some more views of the X5 I have:

http://www.sigsauer.com/Products/Sho...rodu ctid=143


No, and I was mistaken in saying M5. Haven't played in a while.
Here's a tip sheet description:
"Colt M4A1 Carbine
Overall : ****
Accuracy : *****
Stopping Power : ****
Rate Of Fire : ****
Recoil : **
Firing Modes : Auto/Semi
Rounds Per Clip : 30
This gun seems to be the most popular in most multiplayer games,
because of it's stopping power and accuracy, the problem with this
though is it's rather nasty recoil, which is pretty much the only
problem with the M4, but a nice overall weapon."

So you can see what kind of gunman I am.
Despite early interests in guns, except for short periods, I've always
been a city boy.
Different place, I might get interested again.

--Vic

HK September 7th 07 08:30 PM

Oh deer!
 
Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:49:47 -0400, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:55:52 -0400, HK wrote:

Real purty. I sometimes use them but prefer my M5 with ACP's for the
heavy action. This is when playing SWAT 4, a terrific game.
Did I tell you I live in Morton Grove, IL?
They've outlawed bears, cougars and handguns.

--Vic
So, you keep your Israeli handgun concealed, eh?
Went over my head. I don't know much about guns, although
years ago I subscribed to Guns and was pretty advanced in my dreaming.
But there was this place in Marietta Georgia I stopped
once when I drove to Florida with a buddy. Called the Bulletstop.
Think it was '85, when the Bears played the Dolphins in the superbowl.
Shot clips from an Uzi, and a Thompson. It was fun, but expensive.
I think if I ever felt the need to "protect my family" I'd have a
Remington 12 autoloader to sleep with, and get a big pillow to keep it
under.

--Vic


Aha. I thought you were referring to a pretty decent Israeli target
pistol, made by BUL:

http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg205-e.htm

Here's some more views of the X5 I have:

http://www.sigsauer.com/Products/Sho...rodu ctid=143


No, and I was mistaken in saying M5. Haven't played in a while.
Here's a tip sheet description:
"Colt M4A1 Carbine
Overall : ****
Accuracy : *****
Stopping Power : ****
Rate Of Fire : ****
Recoil : **
Firing Modes : Auto/Semi
Rounds Per Clip : 30
This gun seems to be the most popular in most multiplayer games,
because of it's stopping power and accuracy, the problem with this
though is it's rather nasty recoil, which is pretty much the only
problem with the M4, but a nice overall weapon."



It's less than desirable in hot, dusty areas.

Vic Smith September 7th 07 08:34 PM

Oh deer!
 
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:30:38 -0400, HK wrote:


It's less than desirable in hot, dusty areas.


SWAT 4 missions are all in commercial/industrial areas.
My M4A has never jammed, and I never even oiled it!

--Vic

JoeSpareBedroom September 7th 07 08:42 PM

Oh deer!
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 19:08:19 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 17:38:43 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
m...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:51:59 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:20:21 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
news:oo13e3h766n56tof420chhq3vmd19jvnk3@4a x.com...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:53:52 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:13:29 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:50:24 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 10:46:02 -0500, John H.

wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:02:55 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 13:25:54 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
message
news:u382e3ts8i22s7a6hjrvd4abtcu8s4 ...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 00:00:17 -0400,
wrote:

The winner was always an old sargent who took his time and
shot
down
one per round, with a 2" revolver.

I have said for years that the reason is due to 13 round
semi-auto
hand guns.

With a revolver, you only have six - makes you concentrate.

One of my favorite gun technique books suggests taking only 6
rounds
to the
range, no matter what kind of handgun you're shooting. Good
idea.

All my kids were trained that way. In fact, when my youngest
went
to
the Academy in SC, he noticed that the more bullets they were
issues,
the more the used them.

He took his time, minimum shots and did well.

It's the revolver training.

I have a 9mm Glock, but I never carry it unless I'm in the
woods.
For
just carrying purposes, it's a .357 mag on a .38 frame.

Don't you mean that the other way around? My Highway Patrolman
shoots
.38's
but is a .357 magnum frame (and shoots them!).

Nope - just the way I spake it.

Wouldn't a gun with a frame built for .38's be somewhat unsafe
with
a
bunch
of .357 mags going through it?

What part of this is so hard to understand?

The gun is a .357 mag built on a .38 frame.

Ruger SP101

Hello? Anybody home?

You god damned people will agrue about anything.

I'm outa here for a while.

Morons.

No argument exists. I was simply asking a question. I looked for
information on the Ruger SP101, but could find nothing saying the
frame
was
built for .38's.


Look at the top strap, Einstein.


Ah, another name-caller!

Enlighten me, please. I am certainly no expert on pistols. What is a
'top
strap'?

Is there one in this photo?

http://tinyurl.com/lw55

Yes, there is. See the black grip with the silver screw holding it on?
That's actually called the top strap.


Those are grip inserts. I've never heard them called 'top straps'. Do
they
have a stamp on them somewhere saying the frame is a .38 caliber
frame?

No. You just have to know these things. One high-tech way of knowing is
to
read a lot.


Well, here's the site with all the specs and such. Perhaps you could
point
me to where it says the Ruger SP101 pistol is built on a .38 frame. Or,
please point me to anything that says that. I'll admit to not reading a
whole lot about pistols.


Here's a site that gives enough information for people who know something
about pistols.
http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger_SP101.htm

Call your local police station and ask whether it's legal to use google in
your town. That should help you find the information you need.


Actually, I used Google to find the specs I gave you above. I could find
nothing on the site you provided saying anything about the SP101 being a
.38 frame. I did read that it was designed to be a small, strong .357
Magnum.

Help!


You haven't read enough. You have no secretary here. Since you have nothing
better to do, continue doing your homework, or shut your trap.



JoeSpareBedroom September 7th 07 08:46 PM

Oh deer!
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:18:52 -0400, HK wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message



Here's a site that gives enough information for people who know
something
about pistols.
http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger_SP101.htm

Call your local police station and ask whether it's legal to use google
in
your town. That should help you find the information you need.



Long one of my favorite shooting sites, but you can see the desperation
in the right's politics...he's endorsed Tired Old Fred, with the same
ideas that brought us...Iraq.


Actually, Harry, we're not discussing politics at all. We're discussing
the
frame used for the Ruger SP101.


There is no "we" that includes you until you spend a day or ten reading.
Otherwise, you can't possibly know what you're talking about. Is your public
library open on weekends? Does the "home" have a shuttle bus that'll bring
you there?



HK September 7th 07 08:46 PM

Oh deer!
 
JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...


Wouldn't a gun with a frame built for .38's be somewhat unsafe
with a
bunch
of .357 mags going through it?
What part of this is so hard to understand?

The gun is a .357 mag built on a .38 frame.

Ruger SP101

Hello? Anybody home?

You god damned people will agrue about anything.

I'm outa here for a while.

Morons.
No argument exists. I was simply asking a question. I looked for
information on the Ruger SP101, but could find nothing saying the
frame
was
built for .38's.

Look at the top strap, Einstein.

Ah, another name-caller!

Enlighten me, please. I am certainly no expert on pistols. What is a
'top
strap'?

Is there one in this photo?

http://tinyurl.com/lw55
Yes, there is. See the black grip with the silver screw holding it on?
That's actually called the top strap.

Those are grip inserts. I've never heard them called 'top straps'. Do
they
have a stamp on them somewhere saying the frame is a .38 caliber frame?
No. You just have to know these things. One high-tech way of knowing is
to
read a lot.

Well, here's the site with all the specs and such. Perhaps you could
point
me to where it says the Ruger SP101 pistol is built on a .38 frame. Or,
please point me to anything that says that. I'll admit to not reading a
whole lot about pistols.



Looks like SW Tom was right. Some folks just want to argue..........about
anything.....here.

John, maybe there is an rec.arguing NG you can spend your day at.



Well, he could go to that newsgroup he's always touting...what is it...
ahh a.politics. But he'd only find himself to play with, and he'd
surely turn himself down.

John H. September 7th 07 09:06 PM

Oh deer!
 
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 17:38:43 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:51:59 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:20:21 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
om...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:53:52 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:13:29 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:50:24 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 10:46:02 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:02:55 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 13:25:54 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news:u382e3ts8i22s7a6hjrvd4abtcu8s4o46 ...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 00:00:17 -0400, wrote:

The winner was always an old sargent who took his time and shot
down
one per round, with a 2" revolver.

I have said for years that the reason is due to 13 round
semi-auto
hand guns.

With a revolver, you only have six - makes you concentrate.

One of my favorite gun technique books suggests taking only 6
rounds
to the
range, no matter what kind of handgun you're shooting. Good idea.

All my kids were trained that way. In fact, when my youngest went
to
the Academy in SC, he noticed that the more bullets they were
issues,
the more the used them.

He took his time, minimum shots and did well.

It's the revolver training.

I have a 9mm Glock, but I never carry it unless I'm in the woods.
For
just carrying purposes, it's a .357 mag on a .38 frame.

Don't you mean that the other way around? My Highway Patrolman
shoots
.38's
but is a .357 magnum frame (and shoots them!).

Nope - just the way I spake it.

Wouldn't a gun with a frame built for .38's be somewhat unsafe with a
bunch
of .357 mags going through it?

What part of this is so hard to understand?

The gun is a .357 mag built on a .38 frame.

Ruger SP101

Hello? Anybody home?

You god damned people will agrue about anything.

I'm outa here for a while.

Morons.

No argument exists. I was simply asking a question. I looked for
information on the Ruger SP101, but could find nothing saying the
frame
was
built for .38's.


Look at the top strap, Einstein.


Ah, another name-caller!

Enlighten me, please. I am certainly no expert on pistols. What is a
'top
strap'?

Is there one in this photo?

http://tinyurl.com/lw55

Yes, there is. See the black grip with the silver screw holding it on?
That's actually called the top strap.


Those are grip inserts. I've never heard them called 'top straps'. Do they
have a stamp on them somewhere saying the frame is a .38 caliber frame?


No. You just have to know these things. One high-tech way of knowing is to
read a lot.


Well, here's the site with all the specs and such. Perhaps you could point
me to where it says the Ruger SP101 pistol is built on a .38 frame. Or,
please point me to anything that says that. I'll admit to not reading a
whole lot about pistols.

John H. September 7th 07 09:42 PM

Oh deer!
 
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 19:08:19 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 17:38:43 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:51:59 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
om...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:20:21 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
news:oo13e3h766n56tof420chhq3vmd19jvnk3@4ax .com...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:53:52 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:13:29 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:50:24 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 10:46:02 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:02:55 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 13:25:54 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news:u382e3ts8i22s7a6hjrvd4abtcu8s4o ...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 00:00:17 -0400, wrote:

The winner was always an old sargent who took his time and
shot
down
one per round, with a 2" revolver.

I have said for years that the reason is due to 13 round
semi-auto
hand guns.

With a revolver, you only have six - makes you concentrate.

One of my favorite gun technique books suggests taking only 6
rounds
to the
range, no matter what kind of handgun you're shooting. Good
idea.

All my kids were trained that way. In fact, when my youngest
went
to
the Academy in SC, he noticed that the more bullets they were
issues,
the more the used them.

He took his time, minimum shots and did well.

It's the revolver training.

I have a 9mm Glock, but I never carry it unless I'm in the
woods.
For
just carrying purposes, it's a .357 mag on a .38 frame.

Don't you mean that the other way around? My Highway Patrolman
shoots
.38's
but is a .357 magnum frame (and shoots them!).

Nope - just the way I spake it.

Wouldn't a gun with a frame built for .38's be somewhat unsafe with
a
bunch
of .357 mags going through it?

What part of this is so hard to understand?

The gun is a .357 mag built on a .38 frame.

Ruger SP101

Hello? Anybody home?

You god damned people will agrue about anything.

I'm outa here for a while.

Morons.

No argument exists. I was simply asking a question. I looked for
information on the Ruger SP101, but could find nothing saying the
frame
was
built for .38's.


Look at the top strap, Einstein.


Ah, another name-caller!

Enlighten me, please. I am certainly no expert on pistols. What is a
'top
strap'?

Is there one in this photo?

http://tinyurl.com/lw55

Yes, there is. See the black grip with the silver screw holding it on?
That's actually called the top strap.


Those are grip inserts. I've never heard them called 'top straps'. Do
they
have a stamp on them somewhere saying the frame is a .38 caliber frame?

No. You just have to know these things. One high-tech way of knowing is to
read a lot.


Well, here's the site with all the specs and such. Perhaps you could point
me to where it says the Ruger SP101 pistol is built on a .38 frame. Or,
please point me to anything that says that. I'll admit to not reading a
whole lot about pistols.


Here's a site that gives enough information for people who know something
about pistols.
http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger_SP101.htm

Call your local police station and ask whether it's legal to use google in
your town. That should help you find the information you need.


Actually, I used Google to find the specs I gave you above. I could find
nothing on the site you provided saying anything about the SP101 being a
..38 frame. I did read that it was designed to be a small, strong .357
Magnum.

Help!

John H. September 7th 07 09:44 PM

Oh deer!
 
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:18:52 -0400, HK wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message



Here's a site that gives enough information for people who know something
about pistols.
http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger_SP101.htm

Call your local police station and ask whether it's legal to use google in
your town. That should help you find the information you need.



Long one of my favorite shooting sites, but you can see the desperation
in the right's politics...he's endorsed Tired Old Fred, with the same
ideas that brought us...Iraq.


Actually, Harry, we're not discussing politics at all. We're discussing the
frame used for the Ruger SP101.

JoeSpareBedroom September 7th 07 10:05 PM

Oh deer!
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 15:39:32 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
...


Wouldn't a gun with a frame built for .38's be somewhat unsafe
with a
bunch
of .357 mags going through it?

What part of this is so hard to understand?

The gun is a .357 mag built on a .38 frame.

Ruger SP101

Hello? Anybody home?

You god damned people will agrue about anything.

I'm outa here for a while.

Morons.

No argument exists. I was simply asking a question. I looked for
information on the Ruger SP101, but could find nothing saying the
frame
was
built for .38's.


Look at the top strap, Einstein.


Ah, another name-caller!

Enlighten me, please. I am certainly no expert on pistols. What is
a
'top
strap'?

Is there one in this photo?

http://tinyurl.com/lw55

Yes, there is. See the black grip with the silver screw holding it
on?
That's actually called the top strap.


Those are grip inserts. I've never heard them called 'top straps'. Do
they
have a stamp on them somewhere saying the frame is a .38 caliber
frame?

No. You just have to know these things. One high-tech way of knowing is
to
read a lot.


Well, here's the site with all the specs and such. Perhaps you could
point
me to where it says the Ruger SP101 pistol is built on a .38 frame. Or,
please point me to anything that says that. I'll admit to not reading a
whole lot about pistols.



Looks like SW Tom was right. Some folks just want to
argue..........about
anything.....here.

John, maybe there is an rec.arguing NG you can spend your day at.


I've argued about nothing. I'm simply trying to find something saying that
a Ruger .357 Magnum pistol was built on a .38 frame.


No, you're not trying to find anything. You're trying to get other people to
do the work for you. You want a secretary? Hire one. Otherwise, keep
reading.



JoeSpareBedroom September 7th 07 10:06 PM

Oh deer!
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 19:46:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:18:52 -0400, HK wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message


Here's a site that gives enough information for people who know
something
about pistols.
http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger_SP101.htm

Call your local police station and ask whether it's legal to use
google
in
your town. That should help you find the information you need.



Long one of my favorite shooting sites, but you can see the desperation
in the right's politics...he's endorsed Tired Old Fred, with the same
ideas that brought us...Iraq.


Actually, Harry, we're not discussing politics at all. We're discussing
the
frame used for the Ruger SP101.


There is no "we" that includes you until you spend a day or ten reading.
Otherwise, you can't possibly know what you're talking about. Is your
public
library open on weekends? Does the "home" have a shuttle bus that'll bring
you there?


See previous answer to you. And, see answer to JimH. And, see answer to
Harry. You guys have a lot of words to say, but none have shown anything
that says the Ruger SP101, a .357 Magnum revolver, was built on a .38
frame.

I can't believe that of you five people, *none* of you would come up with
the proof, if it exists, simply to prove me wrong...although I've not
asserted that it *wasn't* built on a .38 frame.



So, if someone else has knowledge, they are required to dredge up sources
for you, while you sit on your wet diaper and watch television.

Not a chance.



HK September 7th 07 10:16 PM

Oh deer!
 
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 19:46:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:18:52 -0400, HK wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
Here's a site that gives enough information for people who know
something
about pistols.
http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger_SP101.htm

Call your local police station and ask whether it's legal to use
google
in
your town. That should help you find the information you need.


Long one of my favorite shooting sites, but you can see the desperation
in the right's politics...he's endorsed Tired Old Fred, with the same
ideas that brought us...Iraq.

Actually, Harry, we're not discussing politics at all. We're discussing
the
frame used for the Ruger SP101.
There is no "we" that includes you until you spend a day or ten reading.
Otherwise, you can't possibly know what you're talking about. Is your
public
library open on weekends? Does the "home" have a shuttle bus that'll bring
you there?

See previous answer to you. And, see answer to JimH. And, see answer to
Harry. You guys have a lot of words to say, but none have shown anything
that says the Ruger SP101, a .357 Magnum revolver, was built on a .38
frame.

I can't believe that of you five people, *none* of you would come up with
the proof, if it exists, simply to prove me wrong...although I've not
asserted that it *wasn't* built on a .38 frame.



So, if someone else has knowledge, they are required to dredge up sources
for you, while you sit on your wet diaper and watch television.

Not a chance.




Why is Herring "answering" me? He and that other douchebag, Reggie
Retardo, are not on my "read" or "respond" list. Hell, my email filter
has Herring and his aliases *blacklisted."


John H. September 7th 07 10:34 PM

Oh deer!
 
On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 15:39:32 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
...


Wouldn't a gun with a frame built for .38's be somewhat unsafe
with a
bunch
of .357 mags going through it?

What part of this is so hard to understand?

The gun is a .357 mag built on a .38 frame.

Ruger SP101

Hello? Anybody home?

You god damned people will agrue about anything.

I'm outa here for a while.

Morons.

No argument exists. I was simply asking a question. I looked for
information on the Ruger SP101, but could find nothing saying the
frame
was
built for .38's.


Look at the top strap, Einstein.


Ah, another name-caller!

Enlighten me, please. I am certainly no expert on pistols. What is a
'top
strap'?

Is there one in this photo?

http://tinyurl.com/lw55

Yes, there is. See the black grip with the silver screw holding it on?
That's actually called the top strap.


Those are grip inserts. I've never heard them called 'top straps'. Do
they
have a stamp on them somewhere saying the frame is a .38 caliber frame?

No. You just have to know these things. One high-tech way of knowing is
to
read a lot.


Well, here's the site with all the specs and such. Perhaps you could
point
me to where it says the Ruger SP101 pistol is built on a .38 frame. Or,
please point me to anything that says that. I'll admit to not reading a
whole lot about pistols.



Looks like SW Tom was right. Some folks just want to argue..........about
anything.....here.

John, maybe there is an rec.arguing NG you can spend your day at.


I've argued about nothing. I'm simply trying to find something saying that
a Ruger .357 Magnum pistol was built on a .38 frame.

If I were arguing, I'd say that Tom's statement might have been a little in
error. But, I'm not saying that at all.

Let's see, five different people have called me names or made derogatory
comments because I asked a question.

Wow!

John H. September 7th 07 10:36 PM

Oh deer!
 
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 19:42:27 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 19:08:19 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 17:38:43 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
om...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:51:59 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
news:2b33e3lt3kbdqa0rm1i7q2nlgqcckbs1r7@4ax .com...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:20:21 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
news:oo13e3h766n56tof420chhq3vmd19jvnk3@4 ax.com...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:53:52 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:13:29 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:50:24 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 10:46:02 -0500, John H.

wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:02:55 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 13:25:54 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
message
news:u382e3ts8i22s7a6hjrvd4abtcu8s ...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 00:00:17 -0400,
wrote:

The winner was always an old sargent who took his time and
shot
down
one per round, with a 2" revolver.

I have said for years that the reason is due to 13 round
semi-auto
hand guns.

With a revolver, you only have six - makes you concentrate.

One of my favorite gun technique books suggests taking only 6
rounds
to the
range, no matter what kind of handgun you're shooting. Good
idea.

All my kids were trained that way. In fact, when my youngest
went
to
the Academy in SC, he noticed that the more bullets they were
issues,
the more the used them.

He took his time, minimum shots and did well.

It's the revolver training.

I have a 9mm Glock, but I never carry it unless I'm in the
woods.
For
just carrying purposes, it's a .357 mag on a .38 frame.

Don't you mean that the other way around? My Highway Patrolman
shoots
.38's
but is a .357 magnum frame (and shoots them!).

Nope - just the way I spake it.

Wouldn't a gun with a frame built for .38's be somewhat unsafe
with
a
bunch
of .357 mags going through it?

What part of this is so hard to understand?

The gun is a .357 mag built on a .38 frame.

Ruger SP101

Hello? Anybody home?

You god damned people will agrue about anything.

I'm outa here for a while.

Morons.

No argument exists. I was simply asking a question. I looked for
information on the Ruger SP101, but could find nothing saying the
frame
was
built for .38's.


Look at the top strap, Einstein.


Ah, another name-caller!

Enlighten me, please. I am certainly no expert on pistols. What is a
'top
strap'?

Is there one in this photo?

http://tinyurl.com/lw55

Yes, there is. See the black grip with the silver screw holding it on?
That's actually called the top strap.


Those are grip inserts. I've never heard them called 'top straps'. Do
they
have a stamp on them somewhere saying the frame is a .38 caliber
frame?

No. You just have to know these things. One high-tech way of knowing is
to
read a lot.


Well, here's the site with all the specs and such. Perhaps you could
point
me to where it says the Ruger SP101 pistol is built on a .38 frame. Or,
please point me to anything that says that. I'll admit to not reading a
whole lot about pistols.

Here's a site that gives enough information for people who know something
about pistols.
http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger_SP101.htm

Call your local police station and ask whether it's legal to use google in
your town. That should help you find the information you need.


Actually, I used Google to find the specs I gave you above. I could find
nothing on the site you provided saying anything about the SP101 being a
.38 frame. I did read that it was designed to be a small, strong .357
Magnum.

Help!


You haven't read enough. You have no secretary here. Since you have nothing
better to do, continue doing your homework, or shut your trap.


In other words, you know of nothing that says the Ruger SP101, a .357
Magnum revolver, was built on a .38 frame.

Well, why did you bother to enter the discussion at all?

John H. September 7th 07 10:40 PM

Oh deer!
 
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 19:46:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:18:52 -0400, HK wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message


Here's a site that gives enough information for people who know
something
about pistols.
http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger_SP101.htm

Call your local police station and ask whether it's legal to use google
in
your town. That should help you find the information you need.



Long one of my favorite shooting sites, but you can see the desperation
in the right's politics...he's endorsed Tired Old Fred, with the same
ideas that brought us...Iraq.


Actually, Harry, we're not discussing politics at all. We're discussing
the
frame used for the Ruger SP101.


There is no "we" that includes you until you spend a day or ten reading.
Otherwise, you can't possibly know what you're talking about. Is your public
library open on weekends? Does the "home" have a shuttle bus that'll bring
you there?


See previous answer to you. And, see answer to JimH. And, see answer to
Harry. You guys have a lot of words to say, but none have shown anything
that says the Ruger SP101, a .357 Magnum revolver, was built on a .38
frame.

I can't believe that of you five people, *none* of you would come up with
the proof, if it exists, simply to prove me wrong...although I've not
asserted that it *wasn't* built on a .38 frame.

But, I won't make any derogatory statements about any of you.

John H. September 7th 07 11:22 PM

Oh deer!
 
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 17:16:03 -0400, HK wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 19:46:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:18:52 -0400, HK wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
Here's a site that gives enough information for people who know
something
about pistols.
http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger_SP101.htm

Call your local police station and ask whether it's legal to use
google
in
your town. That should help you find the information you need.


Long one of my favorite shooting sites, but you can see the desperation
in the right's politics...he's endorsed Tired Old Fred, with the same
ideas that brought us...Iraq.

Actually, Harry, we're not discussing politics at all. We're discussing
the
frame used for the Ruger SP101.
There is no "we" that includes you until you spend a day or ten reading.
Otherwise, you can't possibly know what you're talking about. Is your
public
library open on weekends? Does the "home" have a shuttle bus that'll bring
you there?

See previous answer to you. And, see answer to JimH. And, see answer to
Harry. You guys have a lot of words to say, but none have shown anything
that says the Ruger SP101, a .357 Magnum revolver, was built on a .38
frame.

I can't believe that of you five people, *none* of you would come up with
the proof, if it exists, simply to prove me wrong...although I've not
asserted that it *wasn't* built on a .38 frame.



So, if someone else has knowledge, they are required to dredge up sources
for you, while you sit on your wet diaper and watch television.

Not a chance.




Why is Herring "answering" me? He and that other douchebag, Reggie
Retardo, are not on my "read" or "respond" list. Hell, my email filter
has Herring and his aliases *blacklisted."


I answer you because you address me. That's simple. You address me because
you read my posts. That's also simple. Your 'filter' is about as real as
your lobsta boat. That's very simple!

JoeSpareBedroom September 7th 07 11:35 PM

Oh deer!
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 21:06:01 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 19:46:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
m...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:18:52 -0400, HK wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message


Here's a site that gives enough information for people who know
something
about pistols.
http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger_SP101.htm

Call your local police station and ask whether it's legal to use
google
in
your town. That should help you find the information you need.



Long one of my favorite shooting sites, but you can see the
desperation
in the right's politics...he's endorsed Tired Old Fred, with the same
ideas that brought us...Iraq.


Actually, Harry, we're not discussing politics at all. We're
discussing
the
frame used for the Ruger SP101.

There is no "we" that includes you until you spend a day or ten reading.
Otherwise, you can't possibly know what you're talking about. Is your
public
library open on weekends? Does the "home" have a shuttle bus that'll
bring
you there?


See previous answer to you. And, see answer to JimH. And, see answer to
Harry. You guys have a lot of words to say, but none have shown anything
that says the Ruger SP101, a .357 Magnum revolver, was built on a .38
frame.

I can't believe that of you five people, *none* of you would come up
with
the proof, if it exists, simply to prove me wrong...although I've not
asserted that it *wasn't* built on a .38 frame.



So, if someone else has knowledge, they are required to dredge up sources
for you, while you sit on your wet diaper and watch television.

Not a chance.


Doug, I'm thinking there are no sources saying the Ruger SP101, .357
Magnum
revolver, was built on a .38 frame. I've looked at a couple dozen sites. I
did find that the SP101 was built as a .22 calibre. So it's possible to
buy
a Ruger .22 on a .357 Magnum frame, but I could find nothing stating the
.357 was built on a .38 frame.

Do you reckon Ruger is keeping it hidden from the public.



You're all done with with, John. You are over it. Way over it. If you want
to continue, go ask the question in rec.guns.



JoeSpareBedroom September 8th 07 12:00 AM

Oh deer!
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 22:35:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 21:06:01 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
m...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 19:46:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
news:vud3e35ejb0itjhrvv90pdgk3ue3arjn9r@4ax. com...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:18:52 -0400, HK
wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message


Here's a site that gives enough information for people who know
something
about pistols.
http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger_SP101.htm

Call your local police station and ask whether it's legal to use
google
in
your town. That should help you find the information you need.



Long one of my favorite shooting sites, but you can see the
desperation
in the right's politics...he's endorsed Tired Old Fred, with the
same
ideas that brought us...Iraq.


Actually, Harry, we're not discussing politics at all. We're
discussing
the
frame used for the Ruger SP101.

There is no "we" that includes you until you spend a day or ten
reading.
Otherwise, you can't possibly know what you're talking about. Is your
public
library open on weekends? Does the "home" have a shuttle bus that'll
bring
you there?


See previous answer to you. And, see answer to JimH. And, see answer
to
Harry. You guys have a lot of words to say, but none have shown
anything
that says the Ruger SP101, a .357 Magnum revolver, was built on a .38
frame.

I can't believe that of you five people, *none* of you would come up
with
the proof, if it exists, simply to prove me wrong...although I've not
asserted that it *wasn't* built on a .38 frame.



So, if someone else has knowledge, they are required to dredge up
sources
for you, while you sit on your wet diaper and watch television.

Not a chance.


Doug, I'm thinking there are no sources saying the Ruger SP101, .357
Magnum
revolver, was built on a .38 frame. I've looked at a couple dozen sites.
I
did find that the SP101 was built as a .22 calibre. So it's possible to
buy
a Ruger .22 on a .357 Magnum frame, but I could find nothing stating the
.357 was built on a .38 frame.

Do you reckon Ruger is keeping it hidden from the public.



You're all done with with, John. You are over it. Way over it. If you want
to continue, go ask the question in rec.guns.


Let's see, first it was countersteering, now it's a .357 Magnum on a .38
frame.

Sounds like you couldn't support your statements. Hell, you didn't even
know what a grip insert was!


Did I or did I not just teach you that you were all done here? Go change
your diaper.



John H. September 8th 07 12:17 AM

Oh deer!
 
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 21:06:01 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 19:46:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:18:52 -0400, HK wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message


Here's a site that gives enough information for people who know
something
about pistols.
http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger_SP101.htm

Call your local police station and ask whether it's legal to use
google
in
your town. That should help you find the information you need.



Long one of my favorite shooting sites, but you can see the desperation
in the right's politics...he's endorsed Tired Old Fred, with the same
ideas that brought us...Iraq.


Actually, Harry, we're not discussing politics at all. We're discussing
the
frame used for the Ruger SP101.

There is no "we" that includes you until you spend a day or ten reading.
Otherwise, you can't possibly know what you're talking about. Is your
public
library open on weekends? Does the "home" have a shuttle bus that'll bring
you there?


See previous answer to you. And, see answer to JimH. And, see answer to
Harry. You guys have a lot of words to say, but none have shown anything
that says the Ruger SP101, a .357 Magnum revolver, was built on a .38
frame.

I can't believe that of you five people, *none* of you would come up with
the proof, if it exists, simply to prove me wrong...although I've not
asserted that it *wasn't* built on a .38 frame.



So, if someone else has knowledge, they are required to dredge up sources
for you, while you sit on your wet diaper and watch television.

Not a chance.


Doug, I'm thinking there are no sources saying the Ruger SP101, .357 Magnum
revolver, was built on a .38 frame. I've looked at a couple dozen sites. I
did find that the SP101 was built as a .22 calibre. So it's possible to buy
a Ruger .22 on a .357 Magnum frame, but I could find nothing stating the
..357 was built on a .38 frame.

Do you reckon Ruger is keeping it hidden from the public.

John H. September 8th 07 12:58 AM

Oh deer!
 
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 22:35:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 21:06:01 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 19:46:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
om...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:18:52 -0400, HK wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message


Here's a site that gives enough information for people who know
something
about pistols.
http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger_SP101.htm

Call your local police station and ask whether it's legal to use
google
in
your town. That should help you find the information you need.



Long one of my favorite shooting sites, but you can see the
desperation
in the right's politics...he's endorsed Tired Old Fred, with the same
ideas that brought us...Iraq.


Actually, Harry, we're not discussing politics at all. We're
discussing
the
frame used for the Ruger SP101.

There is no "we" that includes you until you spend a day or ten reading.
Otherwise, you can't possibly know what you're talking about. Is your
public
library open on weekends? Does the "home" have a shuttle bus that'll
bring
you there?


See previous answer to you. And, see answer to JimH. And, see answer to
Harry. You guys have a lot of words to say, but none have shown anything
that says the Ruger SP101, a .357 Magnum revolver, was built on a .38
frame.

I can't believe that of you five people, *none* of you would come up
with
the proof, if it exists, simply to prove me wrong...although I've not
asserted that it *wasn't* built on a .38 frame.



So, if someone else has knowledge, they are required to dredge up sources
for you, while you sit on your wet diaper and watch television.

Not a chance.


Doug, I'm thinking there are no sources saying the Ruger SP101, .357
Magnum
revolver, was built on a .38 frame. I've looked at a couple dozen sites. I
did find that the SP101 was built as a .22 calibre. So it's possible to
buy
a Ruger .22 on a .357 Magnum frame, but I could find nothing stating the
.357 was built on a .38 frame.

Do you reckon Ruger is keeping it hidden from the public.



You're all done with with, John. You are over it. Way over it. If you want
to continue, go ask the question in rec.guns.


Let's see, first it was countersteering, now it's a .357 Magnum on a .38
frame.

Sounds like you couldn't support your statements. Hell, you didn't even
know what a grip insert was!

John H. September 8th 07 01:18 AM

Oh deer!
 
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 23:00:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 22:35:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 21:06:01 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
om...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 19:46:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
news:vud3e35ejb0itjhrvv90pdgk3ue3arjn9r@4ax .com...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:18:52 -0400, HK
wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message


Here's a site that gives enough information for people who know
something
about pistols.
http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger_SP101.htm

Call your local police station and ask whether it's legal to use
google
in
your town. That should help you find the information you need.



Long one of my favorite shooting sites, but you can see the
desperation
in the right's politics...he's endorsed Tired Old Fred, with the
same
ideas that brought us...Iraq.


Actually, Harry, we're not discussing politics at all. We're
discussing
the
frame used for the Ruger SP101.

There is no "we" that includes you until you spend a day or ten
reading.
Otherwise, you can't possibly know what you're talking about. Is your
public
library open on weekends? Does the "home" have a shuttle bus that'll
bring
you there?


See previous answer to you. And, see answer to JimH. And, see answer
to
Harry. You guys have a lot of words to say, but none have shown
anything
that says the Ruger SP101, a .357 Magnum revolver, was built on a .38
frame.

I can't believe that of you five people, *none* of you would come up
with
the proof, if it exists, simply to prove me wrong...although I've not
asserted that it *wasn't* built on a .38 frame.



So, if someone else has knowledge, they are required to dredge up
sources
for you, while you sit on your wet diaper and watch television.

Not a chance.


Doug, I'm thinking there are no sources saying the Ruger SP101, .357
Magnum
revolver, was built on a .38 frame. I've looked at a couple dozen sites.
I
did find that the SP101 was built as a .22 calibre. So it's possible to
buy
a Ruger .22 on a .357 Magnum frame, but I could find nothing stating the
.357 was built on a .38 frame.

Do you reckon Ruger is keeping it hidden from the public.


You're all done with with, John. You are over it. Way over it. If you want
to continue, go ask the question in rec.guns.


Let's see, first it was countersteering, now it's a .357 Magnum on a .38
frame.

Sounds like you couldn't support your statements. Hell, you didn't even
know what a grip insert was!


Did I or did I not just teach you that you were all done here? Go change
your diaper.


Y'all just can't stand being wrong! Hell, it's no big deal to say, "Whoops,
I was wrong." But I guess that when you've called someone a god damned guy
and a moron, not to mention the comments you and Harry and JimH manage,
it's pretty tough.

Trust me, Doug, if a site proving your point existed, you'd be shoving it
down my throat!

And no, I'm not all alone. You persist in answering. The others read but
know better than to answer, 'cause they can't find anything either!

Wayne.B September 8th 07 02:21 AM

Oh deer!
 
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:58:14 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

You could take a proactive approach and let your property return to a
wild state.


I have done just that. I have three acres and have let about 2.5 acres
revert to the natural state, including a pond. I have a lot of
wildlife and have the opportunity to observe them..... without feeding
them.


Sounds like a good plan. No one really needs more than a half acre or
so for house and lawn.

Scott in Florida September 8th 07 02:30 AM

Oh deer!
 
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:18:39 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:05:14 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:



Careful. You sound like some "folks" who think anyone who reads and learns
is an elitist.

Hmm. Typical educated cop response.

--Vic


Quota? Nah. I can write as many tickets as I want.


Ahhhhhh

Joey is a cop?

ROFLMAO

Did you tell all your buddies here how you lost a HALF MILLION DOLLARS
to me?

--
Scott in Florida

About all I can say for the United States Senate
is that it opens with a prayer and
closes with an investigation.

Will Rogers (1879 - 1935)



JoeSpareBedroom September 8th 07 03:23 AM

Oh deer!
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 23:00:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 22:35:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
m...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 21:06:01 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
news:r3h3e3h2vt0tmbfm2lbfmvpcof8kavoaq1@4ax. com...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 19:46:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
news:vud3e35ejb0itjhrvv90pdgk3ue3arjn9r@4a x.com...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:18:52 -0400, HK
wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message


Here's a site that gives enough information for people who know
something
about pistols.
http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger_SP101.htm

Call your local police station and ask whether it's legal to use
google
in
your town. That should help you find the information you need.



Long one of my favorite shooting sites, but you can see the
desperation
in the right's politics...he's endorsed Tired Old Fred, with the
same
ideas that brought us...Iraq.


Actually, Harry, we're not discussing politics at all. We're
discussing
the
frame used for the Ruger SP101.

There is no "we" that includes you until you spend a day or ten
reading.
Otherwise, you can't possibly know what you're talking about. Is
your
public
library open on weekends? Does the "home" have a shuttle bus that'll
bring
you there?


See previous answer to you. And, see answer to JimH. And, see answer
to
Harry. You guys have a lot of words to say, but none have shown
anything
that says the Ruger SP101, a .357 Magnum revolver, was built on a
.38
frame.

I can't believe that of you five people, *none* of you would come up
with
the proof, if it exists, simply to prove me wrong...although I've
not
asserted that it *wasn't* built on a .38 frame.



So, if someone else has knowledge, they are required to dredge up
sources
for you, while you sit on your wet diaper and watch television.

Not a chance.


Doug, I'm thinking there are no sources saying the Ruger SP101, .357
Magnum
revolver, was built on a .38 frame. I've looked at a couple dozen
sites.
I
did find that the SP101 was built as a .22 calibre. So it's possible
to
buy
a Ruger .22 on a .357 Magnum frame, but I could find nothing stating
the
.357 was built on a .38 frame.

Do you reckon Ruger is keeping it hidden from the public.


You're all done with with, John. You are over it. Way over it. If you
want
to continue, go ask the question in rec.guns.


Let's see, first it was countersteering, now it's a .357 Magnum on a .38
frame.

Sounds like you couldn't support your statements. Hell, you didn't even
know what a grip insert was!


Did I or did I not just teach you that you were all done here? Go change
your diaper.


Y'all just can't stand being wrong! Hell, it's no big deal to say,
"Whoops,
I was wrong." But I guess that when you've called someone a god damned guy
and a moron, not to mention the comments you and Harry and JimH manage,
it's pretty tough.

Trust me, Doug, if a site proving your point existed, you'd be shoving it
down my throat!

And no, I'm not all alone. You persist in answering. The others read but
know better than to answer, 'cause they can't find anything either!



Are you always this lazy? This is strange, coming from a guy who used to
bitch about his students being less than wonderful.




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