On Sep 5, 8:45 am, HK wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 07:56:41 -0400, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:08:30 +0300, Matti Kaki
wrote:

60.414 N 25.097 E
That's a bit north of Helsinki, Finland.
Man, this low transom issue is becoming an international furor.

--Vic

Did you look at the photos he posted? The boat is just this side of
decrepit, and the reason water coming in can get to the battery is
because someone removed the hatch that covers the opening in the deck.
He'll fit in well here with the rest of the inlanders.

I looked. Lotsa old crappy boats out there.
You do know I was joking?
Probably the Finn was joining in the fun, but I'm not up on Finns and
their humor.
For the record, I'm not an experienced boater, but given your
experience and your comments I have no trouble with your low transom,
and I think Tom's is even lower.

--Vic

Yeah, I realized that, and unlike Chuck, I enjoy jokes at my expense. No
one laughs more at me than me. Unfortunately, we have a number of
posters here with an "agenda" that includes trying to make trouble for
me and a few others. The fact that they don't succeed, haven't
succeeded, and never will succeed must cause they a great deal of grief,
eh? :}

I thought Tom was transomless.

Oh...Finns. I worked with one for three years. He had no sense of humor.
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Make trouble for you? How can the words of internet sock puppets make
trouble for you? I think you take these posts a little more serious
than you let on. And you of all people should not...

On Sep 5, 9:04 am, DownTime wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 07:56:41 -0400, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:08:30 +0300, Matti Kaki
wrote:

60.414 N 25.097 E
That's a bit north of Helsinki, Finland.
Man, this low transom issue is becoming an international furor.

--Vic

Did you look at the photos he posted? The boat is just this side of
decrepit, and the reason water coming in can get to the battery is
because someone removed the hatch that covers the opening in the deck.
He'll fit in well here with the rest of the inlanders.
I looked. Lotsa old crappy boats out there.
You do know I was joking?
Probably the Finn was joining in the fun, but I'm not up on Finns and
their humor.
For the record, I'm not an experienced boater, but given your
experience and your comments I have no trouble with your low transom,
and I think Tom's is even lower.

--Vic

I think women worry more about low transoms than men.

Eisboch

Are wide transoms also a concern? Anyone aware of any legal
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I have a low transom on my work skiff, and it is wide too. That's
helps when bobbing in the surf for sure. For those of you who have not
seen it, here are some pics.
www.yaimkool.com
I have been watching my transom a lot since all of these discussions
and with all the wakes and such, the wide transom keeps it floating
pretty high, even in a following sea. The only water I take in is
splash off the bow, square chines, and slight rake make this a wet
boat going into the wind and sea, it would take something to take
water over the sides though.

On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 08:35:35 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



I think women worry more about low transoms than men.

Not just transoms.
For their 50th anniversary Bill and Kate rented the honeymoon cottage
they had stayed at after their wedding, hoping to rekindle those
romantic days.
Arriving in the evening, they unpacked the car, and settled in.
After a candlelight dinner, Kate showered, went in the bedroom
and put on a sexy negligee.
She poked her head out the bedroom door, and shouted at Bill, who had
fallen asleep on the couch while watching TV.
"Bill! It's bedtime, honey."
Bill struggled awake, shaking the sleep from his head, and Kate
quickly slipped under the covers.
After a quick shower while his dentures soaked, Bill went to the
bedroom, lay down on the covers next to his snoring Kate, and quickly
fell asleep.
Bill was up at daybreak, found a nearby newspaper machine,
and bought the paper. Back at the cottage he made coffee
and sat at the kitchen table reading the news.
Kate soon entered, still in her negligee, cooked up some English
muffins with butter and strawberry preserves, and oatmeal with
brown sugar. She set the food down on the table for Bill and herself,
and poured more coffee. As Bill continued to read the newspaper,
Kate sat down at the table and looked about the room.
"My, my! That horse figurine was here when we honeymooned!"
And I remember this wallpaper! My, how they've kept this cottage up."
She glanced at the bedroom door, then through the entry into the
living room at the couch there, and memories of their honeymoon
stirred, and a warm feeling overcame her.
"Bill! Put down that paper! Look around and try to remember our
honeymoon!"
Bill put down his paper, took off his reading glasses and looked
around.
He saw that a horse figurine had replaced the 40" Muskie that he
remembered being on that wall, and that they had removed the
knotty pine paneling and put up wallpaper.
Kate mustered up her "sexy" voice and said,
"Brings back memories, doesn't it? Frankly, it's making me hot."
Bill looked over at her and finally saw that Kate was actually
wearing a low-cut negligee.
"Dammit, Kate. It's no wonder you're hot. You've got one tit in the
oatmeal and the other in the coffee."

Sorry if you heard it before, and I dressed it up a bit making it
longer. Whoa. Could Chuck be affecting me?

--Vic

wrote:
On Sep 5, 8:45 am, HK wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 07:56:41 -0400, HK wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:08:30 +0300, Matti Kaki
wrote:
60.414 N 25.097 E
That's a bit north of Helsinki, Finland.
Man, this low transom issue is becoming an international furor.
--Vic
Did you look at the photos he posted? The boat is just this side of
decrepit, and the reason water coming in can get to the battery is
because someone removed the hatch that covers the opening in the deck.
He'll fit in well here with the rest of the inlanders.
I looked. Lotsa old crappy boats out there.
You do know I was joking?
Probably the Finn was joining in the fun, but I'm not up on Finns and
their humor.
For the record, I'm not an experienced boater, but given your
experience and your comments I have no trouble with your low transom,
and I think Tom's is even lower.
--Vic
Yeah, I realized that, and unlike Chuck, I enjoy jokes at my expense. No
one laughs more at me than me. Unfortunately, we have a number of
posters here with an "agenda" that includes trying to make trouble for
me and a few others. The fact that they don't succeed, haven't
succeeded, and never will succeed must cause they a great deal of grief,
eh? :}

I thought Tom was transomless.

Oh...Finns. I worked with one for three years. He had no sense of humor.
None.- Hide quoted text -

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Make trouble for you? How can the words of internet sock puppets make
trouble for you? I think you take these posts a little more serious
than you let on. And you of all people should not...



Reread my comment. I said they "try," I did not say they succeeded.
Most of them are permanent residents of my filters, which only save the
headers and the senders' names, not the messages themselves. But a small
percentage of their trash is reposted when others make a comment. Of all
the jerks who post here regularly, I would say "Dan" and "John Herring"
are the saddest sacks. They appear to be completely obsessed with me,
and I don't even have nice tits.

wrote:

I have a low transom on my work skiff, and it is wide too. That's
helps when bobbing in the surf for sure. For those of you who have not
seen it, here are some pics.
www.yaimkool.com
I have been watching my transom a lot since all of these discussions
and with all the wakes and such, the wide transom keeps it floating
pretty high, even in a following sea. The only water I take in is
splash off the bow, square chines, and slight rake make this a wet
boat going into the wind and sea, it would take something to take
water over the sides though.



It's really only an issue for inexperienced boaters and the usual snots
here trying to get the kind of rise from the newsgroup they can't get
from their own equipment.

When I was a little kid I used to go out fishing several mornings a week
in the summer with an old man who lived in the cottage next to ours at
the beach. He had a 12' skiff with a 15" transom and a 3 hp Evinrude.
We'd go four or five miles out into Long Island Sound to one of his
"spots," where we'd haul in a bunch of porgies and the occasional
striper. Sometimes the Sound was flat as a pancake and sometimes it was
choppy to rough. I don't recall ever seeing water come in over the
transom. Like your boat, though, it was a wet ride.

Some of the most common boats in Florida are Carolina Skiffs. They're
everywhere. Low transoms, low sides, wet rides, but perfectly safe, even
offshore, in the hands of experienced boaters.

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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snip...
Sorry if you heard it before, and I dressed it up a bit making it
longer. Whoa. Could Chuck be affecting me?

--Vic



If he is, I'd recommend a quick trip to the doctor. There must be
medications to cure that!

On Sep 5, 6:52?am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 5, 8:45 am, HK wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 07:56:41 -0400, HK wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:08:30 +0300, Matti Kaki
wrote:
60.414 N 25.097 E
That's a bit north of Helsinki, Finland.
Man, this low transom issue is becoming an international furor.
--Vic
Did you look at the photos he posted? The boat is just this side of
decrepit, and the reason water coming in can get to the battery is
because someone removed the hatch that covers the opening in the deck.
He'll fit in well here with the rest of the inlanders.
I looked. Lotsa old crappy boats out there.
You do know I was joking?
Probably the Finn was joining in the fun, but I'm not up on Finns and
their humor.
For the record, I'm not an experienced boater, but given your
experience and your comments I have no trouble with your low transom,
and I think Tom's is even lower.
--Vic
Yeah, I realized that, and unlike Chuck, I enjoy jokes at my expense. No
one laughs more at me than me. Unfortunately, we have a number of
posters here with an "agenda" that includes trying to make trouble for
me and a few others. The fact that they don't succeed, haven't
succeeded, and never will succeed must cause they a great deal of grief,
eh? :}

I thought Tom was transomless.

Oh...Finns. I worked with one for three years. He had no sense of humor.
None.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Make trouble for you? How can the words of internet sock puppets make
trouble for you? I think you take these posts a little more serious
than you let on. And you of all people should not...

Reread my comment. I said they "try," I did not say they succeeded.
Most of them are permanent residents of my filters, which only save the
headers and the senders' names, not the messages themselves. But a small
percentage of their trash is reposted when others make a comment. Of all
the jerks who post here regularly, I would say "Dan" and "John Herring"
are the saddest sacks. They appear to be completely obsessed with me,
and I don't even have nice tits.- Hide quoted text -

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You needn't look to far for a sad sack, Krause.

Read through this thread.

Who was the very first to start making derogatory remarks about other
posters?

Who, after the first foray, keeps moving the discussion more and more
toward personalities and away from the boating subject in the thread?

Worse yet, it's not an anomaly. It's your SOP. Ever starve for oxygen
up there on your high pedestal? Obviously you never get tired of
making nasty cracks about all the people you consider beneath you- and
that's pretty well everybody.

On Sep 5, 4:08?am, Matti Kaki wrote:
Hello from Finland.

I just took a look of a finnish boating magazine from year 1991 and was
really allerted. There was a story about US-made boat which could not
pass a finnish yachtclub inspection at all.

This boat is made by SYLVAN MARINE Lagrande, GA. Model 17VFC / VFC 175

There is very low transom freeboard. If you put a 140 hp engine which
you can do according to the U.S. Coast Guard plate, the stern probably
takes water inside thru the two holes which probably are supposed to
drain the boat not fill it with water. There is no motor well.

I can't undestand that this boat has U. S. Coast Guard plate. How is
this possible? Here I have some pictures:

http://www.mattikaki.fi/starcraft/

--
Matti Kaki at iki dot fi http://www.sci.fi/~oh2bio
=========== Location: 60.414 N 25.097 E ===========
Navigare Necesse Est - Vivere Non Est Necesse



There should be a couple of removeable plugs in those holes. But the
rest of the boat has been badly neglected and somebody somewhere along
the line apparently tossed away the plugs.

"John H." wrote in message
...

Chuck, it's only because we *are* beneath him. He just has a few cute
little 'foibles' that we should overlook. In this thread he's only
attacked
you, me, Dan, and the Finns, without provocation. But, that's just 'Harry
being Harry' as some here would say!


John...your behaviour is outrageous.
You throw as many digs at Harry as he sends your way...maybe more since
Harry only responds after seeing your shots through a 3rd party.
A lot of your digs are 'freebies' when everyone else ignores you.

On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 07:11:19 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 07:56:41 -0400, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:08:30 +0300, Matti Kaki
wrote:

60.414 N 25.097 E

That's a bit north of Helsinki, Finland.
Man, this low transom issue is becoming an international furor.

--Vic


Did you look at the photos he posted? The boat is just this side of
decrepit, and the reason water coming in can get to the battery is
because someone removed the hatch that covers the opening in the deck.
He'll fit in well here with the rest of the inlanders.

I looked. Lotsa old crappy boats out there.
You do know I was joking?
Probably the Finn was joining in the fun, but I'm not up on Finns and
their humor.
For the record, I'm not an experienced boater, but given your
experience and your comments I have no trouble with your low transom,
and I think Tom's is even lower.

--Vic

Harry is more experienced than anyone else in rec.boats. You can't go wrong
trusting whatever he says, no matter what the topic is.