After many trips on rental boats, we finally purchased a used Pamlico
160T, which was our favorite of all of the boats that we rented. The
Phase3 seats are sure comfy. We plan to use it on flat water (lakes)
and calm rivers.

Anyhow, now that I have it, I need a better way to carry it. I got it
home using some of those pool noodles and cam buckle straps, but want
to build something better. I'd appreciate it if anybody could take a
look at my ideas and give me feedback.

http://twowheels.us/blog/?p=25

Thanks!

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:14:09 -0700, Rex Kerr
wrote:

After many trips on rental boats, we finally purchased a used Pamlico
160T, which was our favorite of all of the boats that we rented. The
Phase3 seats are sure comfy. We plan to use it on flat water (lakes)
and calm rivers.

Anyhow, now that I have it, I need a better way to carry it. I got it
home using some of those pool noodles and cam buckle straps, but want
to build something better. I'd appreciate it if anybody could take a
look at my ideas and give me feedback.

http://twowheels.us/blog/?p=25

Thanks!

I think you could get the same result using a lot less wood if you
just drilled your 2 long peices to acept U bolts that would go around
the subaru bars.

On Jul 30, 6:28 pm, (Drew Dalgleish)
wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:14:09 -0700, Rex Kerr
wrote:

After many trips on rental boats, we finally purchased a used Pamlico
160T, which was our favorite of all of the boats that we rented. The
Phase3 seats are sure comfy. We plan to use it on flat water (lakes)
and calm rivers.

Anyhow, now that I have it, I need a better way to carry it. I got it
home using some of those pool noodles and cam buckle straps, but want
to build something better. I'd appreciate it if anybody could take a
look at my ideas and give me feedback.

http://twowheels.us/blog/?p=25

Thanks!

I think you could get the same result using a lot less wood if you
just drilled your 2 long peices to acept U bolts that would go around
the subaru bars.

Interesting idea, though I'm not sure that they'd be spaced far
enough. The boat is wide, at 33". I'd have to measure the roof
rack. Good idea though... I'll think about it.

Per Rex Kerr:
http://twowheels.us/blog/?p=25

You mentioned oil-canning.

What about carrying it upside-down, directly on the Subaru's
bars?
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PeteCresswell

On Jul 31, 8:10 am, "(PeteCresswell)" wrote:
Per Rex Kerr:

http://twowheels.us/blog/?p=25

You mentioned oil-canning.

What about carrying it upside-down, directly on the Subaru's
bars?
--
PeteCresswell

This is how we move our kayaks on my GF's subaru legacy wagon. We can
get 2 on there if we angle one onto the other, but it's not the
easiest setup. Tossing one onto the rack and strapping it down,
however, takes about a minute and is easy as pie. We've done ~300
mile (each way) trips like this, at highway speeds and then @ 50mph on
the dirt logging roads, without problems. I have a friend who does
the same with a large canoe on top of his SUV, and it's just as easy
for him.

On Jul 31, 5:10 am, "(PeteCresswell)" wrote:
What about carrying it upside-down, directly on the Subaru's
bars?

I tried that, but the seats stuck down enough to put pressure onto the
roof of the car. I'd have to somehow strap them into the down
position, which can be done, but then it brings up the issue that
since it's a long open cockpit, the boat is only supported by the edge
of the cockpit, which isn't very rigid either. A smaller cockpit on a
single would have more deck area and that'd probably work. Maybe
something like my current idea, but with no straps in the center,
which would lift the boat higher to give clearance for the seats, and
support the boat by its deck.

Per :
Tossing one onto the rack and strapping it down,
however, takes about a minute and is easy as pie. We've done ~300
mile (each way) trips like this, at highway speeds and then @ 50mph on
the dirt logging roads, without problems.

That takes care of my afterthought then - which was around the
strength of the Subie's racks themselves.
--
PeteCresswell

Per Rex Kerr:
Maybe
something like my current idea, but with no straps in the center,
which would lift the boat higher to give clearance for the seats, and
support the boat by its deck.

Maybe somebody could comment on the use of J-Racks on a Subaru.

I know you're biased towards building your own... but that's a
*lot* of wood up there and I would expect it to take it's toll in
gas mileage when you're just driving around without anything else
up there.
--
PeteCresswell

On Jul 31, 1:14 pm, "(PeteCresswell)" wrote:
Per Rex Kerr:

Maybe
something like my current idea, but with no straps in the center,
which would lift the boat higher to give clearance for the seats, and
support the boat by its deck.

Maybe somebody could comment on the use of J-Racks on a Subaru.

I can comment on J-racks! They are a PITA to load boats on and off!!
Especially long heavy boats like plastic sea kayaks. Pretty much have
to lift the boat up and set it in the J-rack, cause if you try to
slide it in from the end, the damn J-racks rotate on the bar and get
all out of proper alignment!

John Kuthe...

"John Kuthe" wrote in message
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On Jul 31, 1:14 pm, "(PeteCresswell)" wrote:
Per Rex Kerr:

Maybe
something like my current idea, but with no straps in the center,
which would lift the boat higher to give clearance for the seats, and
support the boat by its deck.

Maybe somebody could comment on the use of J-Racks on a Subaru.

I can comment on J-racks! They are a PITA to load boats on and off!!
Especially long heavy boats like plastic sea kayaks. Pretty much have
to lift the boat up and set it in the J-rack, cause if you try to
slide it in from the end, the damn J-racks rotate on the bar and get
all out of proper alignment!

John Kuthe...


Not a problem with my Volkswagen Jetta. The CRV's a little worse, have to
open a door to step up, but basically put one end in first, then hoist the
other. Some swearing is (sometimes) involved. My kayak's a 55 lb 14.5 foot
Perception. The J racks do dent the bottom of the kayak, but it hasn't led
to permanent damage thus far.

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www.mattclara.com