The J racks do dent the bottom of the kayak, but it hasn't led
to permanent damage thus far.

I thought that the whole point of those J racks was that it was
supposed to prevent that!

On Aug 1, 12:37 pm, Rex Kerr wrote:
The J racks do dent the bottom of the kayak, but it hasn't led
to permanent damage thus far.

I thought that the whole point of those J racks was that it was
supposed to prevent that!

I have little respect for Yakima ever since they went from their
original kayak stackers (straight bars, $40 a pair) to those
ridiculous overpriced ($70 a pair) U-shaped things for people that do
not know how to tie a trucker's hitch and loop it over the top of a
straight bar to hold stacked kayaks when tying them down.

John Kuthe...

On Aug 1, 2:27 pm, John Kuthe wrote:
I have little respect for Yakima ever since they went from their
original kayak stackers (straight bars, $40 a pair) to those
ridiculous overpriced ($70 a pair) U-shaped things for people that do
not know how to tie a trucker's hitch and loop it over the top of a
straight bar to hold stacked kayaks when tying them down.

John, it's safe to back into the REI. Yakima abandoned the U-shaped
things about 6 years ago. The stackers are vertical bars now. Bad news
is they now cost $100 :-(

I'm afraid I got lost in your comment about trucker's hitches and
loops.

Steve

Funny thing about a trucker's hitch... When I bought my kayak last
weekend I was tying it on top of my car and couldn't for the life of
me seem to figure out which way that last loop went. I've done so
many of those in my life (my dad drives a truck and taught me as a
child) that I was quite embarassed when the guy who I bought it from
came over to help. Thing is... next time I tried, it worked the first
time. Brain fart I guess.

"Rex Kerr" wrote in message
oups.com...
The J racks do dent the bottom of the kayak, but it hasn't led
to permanent damage thus far.

I thought that the whole point of those J racks was that it was
supposed to prevent that!

"Rex Kerr" wrote in message
oups.com...
The J racks do dent the bottom of the kayak, but it hasn't led
to permanent damage thus far.

I thought that the whole point of those J racks was that it was
supposed to prevent that!


You're still strapping it to something, in this case, two things, the front
and back j racks. Cinch it down tight enough, and the bottom beer cans
where it meets the racks. I suppose I could let off some, but I like my
kayak to not move when I try to wiggle it.

--
www.mattclara.com

"Matt Clara" wrote in message
...
"Rex Kerr" wrote in message
oups.com...
The J racks do dent the bottom of the kayak, but it hasn't led
to permanent damage thus far.

I thought that the whole point of those J racks was that it was
supposed to prevent that!


You're still strapping it to something, in this case, two things, the
front and back j racks. Cinch it down tight enough, and the bottom beer
cans where it meets the racks. I suppose I could let off some, but I like
my kayak to not move when I try to wiggle it.



In regards to your homebrew setup, then, I suppose it means four or five
straps, such as your image shows, would stop the beer canning of the kayak.

One added thing I'll say about homebrew, your insurance won't likely cover
it if something goes wrong.

--
www.mattclara.com

John Kuthe wrote:
On Aug 1, 12:37 pm, Rex Kerr wrote:
The J racks do dent the bottom of the kayak, but it hasn't led
to permanent damage thus far.
I thought that the whole point of those J racks was that it was
supposed to prevent that!

I have little respect for Yakima ever since they went from their
original kayak stackers (straight bars, $40 a pair) to those
ridiculous overpriced ($70 a pair) U-shaped things for people that do
not know how to tie a trucker's hitch and loop it over the top of a
straight bar to hold stacked kayaks when tying them down.

Actually they stopped making the U's and went to straight bars (there's
a joke there somewhere) some time ago.

Steve - still using U shaped stackers and a trucker's hitch.

On Aug 1, 3:04 pm, " wrote:
On Aug 1, 2:27 pm, John Kuthe wrote:

I have little respect for Yakima ever since they went from their
original kayak stackers (straight bars, $40 a pair) to those
ridiculous overpriced ($70 a pair) U-shaped things for people that do
not know how to tie a trucker's hitch and loop it over the top of a
straight bar to hold stacked kayaks when tying them down.

John, it's safe to back into the REI. Yakima abandoned the U-shaped
things about 6 years ago. The stackers are vertical bars now. Bad news
is they now cost $100 :-(

I have a pair of the original $40 a par Yakima stackers, and I guard
them very jealously. They rock, do everything a pair of stackers
should do.

I'm gonna have to replace my crossbars pretty soon. Water got in, and
they are rusting at the ends. Gonna have to cut 'em and pull 'em
through the little cast aluminum thingies that hold them to the
towers! Hee hee! I'd say 13 years is a pretty good lifespan. Maybe
I'll move up to the 88 inchers! My 66" bars have almost always been
long enough, but... ;-)

John Kuthe...

Per John Kuthe:
I'm gonna have to replace my crossbars pretty soon. Water got in, and
they are rusting at the ends.

Which begs a question: anybody know if SS bar tubes are
available?

On the fact of it, seems pretty simple: SS tubing cut to
length...

Maybe there's a diameter issue? (i.e. Yak's steel tubes plus the
coating they put on them might be some orphan size)
--
PeteCresswell