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Don White wrote:
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Larry wrote:
Paul Cassel wrote in
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I'm in agreement that diesel engines are disgusting polluters,
but they are all we have in marine life. We can either use them
or use nothing, IMO. I won't sail with petrol engines due to the
safety issue. I have twice been personal witness to yachts
exploding due to petrol fumes - both times with deaths.

That's odd.....No NOx output, nearly unmeasurable CO, spews out
carbon black but only if you romp it too hard, only spews fuel if
your injection is setup way wrong....

What's so disgusting about diesel? Mine are all BURNING
POLLUTANTS....waste frying oil! Frying oil doesn't even make
SULPHUR Dioxide!

www.frybrid.com


Larry
Yours? You own diesel engines now? On what?
Larry drives around stinking up the Charlston area with old french
fry oil in his Mercedes tank.
The puppy speaks again! Good boy!

Well..well...mention "stinking up the area" and look who pops
up...Dirty Dan!



You know, we could run a "whores' race" to determine the worst bottom
feeder in the newsgroup. Early favorites: Dirty Dan, Reggie Retardo,
Herringbrain John. Tell you this, the stench they create in my bozo bin
is something to behold!


That's your septic system filling up again, bozo.

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 14:15:51 +0000, Larry wrote:

Gordon wrote in
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This whole thread is pretty goofy considering all the two stroke
British Seagulls out there using 10:1 oil mix. Course the newer ones
use
25:1 !


This is also an interesting point......

According to the greenies, because we were ALL burning gas mixed 10:1 or
15:1 with Quaker State SAE 30 motor oil from the Flying A for the first
100 years or so of outboard motor technology, by the millions......All
the lakes in the USA should be between 6 inches and 3 feet deep in greasy
motor oil the old motors used to be covered with, preventing them from
ever corroding, by the way.

The lakes, as you may have noticed, where greasy outboard motors leave a
trail of pollution on their surfaces...but who are not being used as a
sewer by cities and industries...are just fine and full of fish. Why is
that? Could 2-stroke Quaker State EVAPORATE...like it does in the
crankcase?? What a silly idea! That's not going to create panic and a
government grant that goes on forever!

Case in point is the lake I grew up on, Owasco Lake in the Finger Lakes
of upstate NY. Everyone had septic tanks or cesspools, even in Moravia,
my hometown. There was no "sewer system" until the Feds moved in and
forced everyone to feed a new system that dumped its **** into the
"Inlet", the inlet to Owasco Lake. We all drank the lake water while
fishing for the first 18 years of my life. The lake was overrun on any
Saturday with nasty old Evinrudes, Kieffauver Mercurys, Johnsons, Scott
A****ers (Grandpa had a Scott 40 on the big boat), etc. We ran 10:1
tractor gas with Quaker State SAE 30 in it. When I was little, I used to
get to pour the oil into the gas can....by the quart! I still love that
smell...(c; The lake was full of fish, bullheads, pickerel, walleyed
pike, trout, bass, etc. Bullheads used to run towards the Coleman gas
lanterns my grandfather and his friends would line the shore with after
dark and we would snatchhook them as fast as you could cast. Everyone
had 3 or 4 freezers to stuff them all in.

Then the greenies showed up. We had to stop polluting the valley with
our septic tanks, cesspools, ****ing in the lawns, and all the old 1800's
"camps", little houses along the lake used by the city folks only in
summer, had to tear down their outhouses behind the garages across the
dirt road from their camps. (If you were out fishing and "had to go",
you simply stopped at any lakeside camp, knocked on a door, and asked to
use their outhouse. It was fine. The BEST nightcrawlers for more
fishing were in the leaves right behind the outhouses, too...real
MONSTERS!) Towns were all forced into the sewage business. It dumped
into the inlet, polluting the lake.

Google "Owasco Lake", with the quote marks for better sorting. Read the
terrible reports of algae blooms, dead fish, etc., that is Owasco Lake,
Sewer, in 2007. They should have left my lake and its people alone.
They were fine.....

Larry

The majority of the oil/fuel discharged in 2-stroke exhaust simply
evaporates. It doesn't somehow magically sink to the bottom of the
lake to cause problems for future generations.

Do some research on crude oil spills to see just how much of a crude
oil spill actually evaporates rather then having to be scrapped off
the surface of the water and believe me, crude oil has a far higher
viscosity then outboard oil and gasoline.

Here in Asia there are kerosine fueled outboards. I wonder whether
they are legal in the U.S.







Bruce in Bangkok
(brucepaigeatgmaildotcom)

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Bruce wrote in
:

Here in Asia there are kerosine fueled outboards. I wonder whether
they are legal in the U.S.



Gotta love those diesel surface drives on the riverboats with the 20'
driveshaft out the back....(c;



Larry
--
While in Mexico, I didn't have to press 1 for Spanish.
While in Iran, I didn't have to press 1 for Farsi, either.
While in Florida, I had to press 2 for English.
It just isn't fair.

On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:26:07 +0000, Larry wrote:

Bruce wrote in
:

Here in Asia there are kerosine fueled outboards. I wonder whether
they are legal in the U.S.



Gotta love those diesel surface drives on the riverboats with the 20'
driveshaft out the back....(c;



Larry
--
While in Mexico, I didn't have to press 1 for Spanish.
While in Iran, I didn't have to press 1 for Farsi, either.
While in Florida, I had to press 2 for English.
It just isn't fair.


They are so common that nearly every hardware store stocks the chain
and sprockets fir the gear reduction system and the range in size from
Brigs& Stratons to big diesels.

On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:26:07 +0000, Larry wrote:

Bruce wrote in
:

Here in Asia there are kerosine fueled outboards. I wonder whether
they are legal in the U.S.



Gotta love those diesel surface drives on the riverboats with the 20'
driveshaft out the back....(c;



Larry

Local answer to the outboard. I've seen them ranging from
Briggs&Straton to 6 cylinder diesels. the later make a really super
engine -- with a chrome plated wide open megaphone exhaust.



Bruce in Bangkok
(brucepaigeATgmailDOTcom)

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 19:18:19 GMT, "Verizon News"
wrote:

The cost of marine diesel for your boat is outrageous these days. I am all
for businesses making an honest buck and I am all for

http://www.billharder.com/boating/39...are-outrageous



My old man can hardly support our drinking habits!



























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Doug Kanter Jr wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 19:18:19 GMT, "Verizon News"
wrote:


The cost of marine diesel for your boat is outrageous these days. I am all
for businesses making an honest buck and I am all for

http://www.billharder.com/boating/39...are-outrageous




My old man can hardly support our drinking habits!



























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http://magazine.doughstreet.com/page...an_asshole.htm

Check the overhead of a marine fuel business and their volume against a
gas station and their volume. Then figure out how much you have to make
on each gallon to pay the overhead at each.