What are you guys getting for fuel efficiency on your four strokers?
In Gph if you please.

What about maintenance costs - general operating costs?

It would appear that I might have to switch out of ETEC and go with
#$%^$%%^#$^$%#$%$^&* Yamaha's or Suzuki's to get the boat I want.
Which annoys me no end.

No, I will not go with Mercury under ANY circumstances.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
What are you guys getting for fuel efficiency on your four strokers?
In Gph if you please.

What about maintenance costs - general operating costs?

It would appear that I might have to switch out of ETEC and go with
#$%^$%%^#$^$%#$%$^&* Yamaha's or Suzuki's to get the boat I want.
Which annoys me no end.

No, I will not go with Mercury under ANY circumstances.

The boat you want only comes with 4-stroke? Or...what?

My motor's only 15 hp. I don't think the numbers would be of much use to
you.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
What are you guys getting for fuel efficiency on your four strokers?
In Gph if you please.

What about maintenance costs - general operating costs?

It would appear that I might have to switch out of ETEC and go with
#$%^$%%^#$^$%#$%$^&* Yamaha's or Suzuki's to get the boat I want.
Which annoys me no end.

No, I will not go with Mercury under ANY circumstances.


I burn about 10gph pushing my Parker at 28-30 mph. The rig is over 7000
pounds with engine, fuel, and a couple guys aboard.

I haven't had any "maintenance costs" on the engine, other than end of
season winterizing. That is, nothing has busted or needed adjustment.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:



No, I will not go with Mercury under ANY circumstances.




That's too bad. You mighta liked this: (3, 275 horse, supercharged Merc 4
strokes)
and I might'a been able to arrange a "deal" for you.

http://www.yellowfinyachts.com/maps/36overhead.jpg

Eisboch

RCE wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


No, I will not go with Mercury under ANY circumstances.



That's too bad. You mighta liked this: (3, 275 horse, supercharged Merc 4
strokes)
and I might'a been able to arrange a "deal" for you.

http://www.yellowfinyachts.com/maps/36overhead.jpg

Eisboch





What a pig and waste of resources. But I'm sure our Chuck could justify it.

On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 08:54:23 -0400, HK wrote:

RCE wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


No, I will not go with Mercury under ANY circumstances.



That's too bad. You mighta liked this: (3, 275 horse, supercharged Merc 4
strokes)
and I might'a been able to arrange a "deal" for you.

http://www.yellowfinyachts.com/maps/36overhead.jpg

Eisboch





What a pig and waste of resources. But I'm sure our Chuck could justify it.

Harry, your personal attacks make you a man worth reading. What a guy!

HK wrote:
RCE wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


No, I will not go with Mercury under ANY circumstances.



That's too bad. You mighta liked this: (3, 275 horse, supercharged
Merc 4 strokes)
and I might'a been able to arrange a "deal" for you.

http://www.yellowfinyachts.com/maps/36overhead.jpg

Eisboch





What a pig and waste of resources. But I'm sure our Chuck could justify it.

It certainly burns more fuel than imaginary boats!

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
What are you guys getting for fuel efficiency on your four strokers?
In Gph if you please.


*Twin* Yamaha F250's

4100 RPM. 30 mph. 20-21 gph.

5600 RPM WOT. 46 mph. 42 gph




What about maintenance costs - general operating costs?

100 hour service w/out water pump impellers: $285
w/ water pump impellers: $500

I do them myself for about $80/engine using all Yamaha components (fuel
filters, oil filters, Yamalube, hi-perf gear oil)



It would appear that I might have to switch out of ETEC and go with
#$%^$%%^#$^$%#$%$^&* Yamaha's or Suzuki's to get the boat I want.
Which annoys me no end.

I have Yamaha's, and my dad has a Suzuki F250. I repowered with Yamaha's
because that is the OEM engine on Grady Whites and I figured that it would
be better for resale, and I could use the original gauges and controls. But
the Suzuki is a terrific engine (16" prop and lower gearing provides better
low speed maneuverability).

Which dealer is closer/better?
Which is going to give you the better deal?

There is no doubt that the 4 strokes give better fuel economy. However, on the
down side, this is accomplished by designing the carburetor jets to be very
fine,
resulting in periodic blockages of the jets, at least in my experience with a
Yamaha
T9.9.

Sherwin D.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

What are you guys getting for fuel efficiency on your four strokers?
In Gph if you please.

What about maintenance costs - general operating costs?

It would appear that I might have to switch out of ETEC and go with
#$%^$%%^#$^$%#$%$^&* Yamaha's or Suzuki's to get the boat I want.
Which annoys me no end.

No, I will not go with Mercury under ANY circumstances.

sherwindu wrote:
There is no doubt that the 4 strokes give better fuel economy.

Yep.

However, on the
down side, this is accomplished by designing the carburetor jets to be very
fine, resulting in periodic blockages of the jets, at least in my experience with a
Yamaha T9.9.

On my (still new) Honda 20hp, it's not *just* the jets. The entire
design of the carburetor is far more complex than any 2 stroke o/b
I've ever owned. And a rebuild can be more expensive than buying a new
carburetor, which I've done already.

Another problem I'm having is impellers. This engine eats 'em for
breakfast and I don't know why. I've decided to stop flushing with a
garden hose bracket and flush only in a barrell, just to see if it
makes a difference. Otherwise, I may start buying impellers in bulk.

In a nutshell, I'm happy (amazed actually) with the fuel economy. But
this is the highest maintenance outboard I've ever owned (and that
includes quiet a few big ones).

Rick ---- who's had no problem over the years with Mercury -shrug-
whut's up with that?

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
What are you guys getting for fuel efficiency on your four strokers?
In Gph if you please.

What about maintenance costs - general operating costs?

It would appear that I might have to switch out of ETEC and go with
#$%^$%%^#$^$%#$%$^&* Yamaha's or Suzuki's to get the boat I want.
Which annoys me no end.

No, I will not go with Mercury under ANY circumstances.