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On Wed, 30 May 2007 18:20:52 -0400, "JimH"
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Push left, go left. Push right, go right. Just the opposite of a
tricycle.

Huh?


He's correct. Same on a motorcycle. Push the left handle forward, the
bike will make a left turn. Push the right handle forward, bike turns to
the right.

Try it sometime.

Eisboch


Hmmm. Actually push the left side of the handle bar away from you while
pulling the right side towards you and you go right.


No. On a moving motorcycle, (and I assume a bicycle, although I haven't
tried it) pushing the left handle away from you will cause the motorcycle
to turn towards the left ... same side that you are pushing. Push on the
right ... bike will turn towards the right.

I can see several people are having trouble with this. Don't feel bad. So
did I until I tried it.

Eisboch

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On Wed, 30 May 2007 18:20:52 -0400, "JimH"
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Push left, go left. Push right, go right. Just the opposite of a
tricycle.

Huh?


He's correct. Same on a motorcycle. Push the left handle forward, the
bike will make a left turn. Push the right handle forward, bike turns
to the right.

Try it sometime.

Eisboch


Hmmm. Actually push the left side of the handle bar away from you while
pulling the right side towards you and you go right.


No. On a moving motorcycle, (and I assume a bicycle, although I haven't
tried it) pushing the left handle away from you will cause the motorcycle
to turn towards the left ... same side that you are pushing. Push on the
right ... bike will turn towards the right.

I can see several people are having trouble with this. Don't feel bad.
So did I until I tried it.

Eisboch

I've never ridden a motorcycle. But if I'm on my bicycle and I push on the
left hand handle bar, or pull on the right one (rotating the handle bars
clockwise as viewed by a bird flying by) and the bike turns right.

I still cannot comprehend how adding a motor causes the opposite.

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On Wed, 30 May 2007 18:20:52 -0400, "JimH"
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Push left, go left. Push right, go right. Just the opposite of a
tricycle.

Huh?


He's correct. Same on a motorcycle. Push the left handle forward,
the bike will make a left turn. Push the right handle forward, bike
turns to the right.

Try it sometime.

Eisboch


Hmmm. Actually push the left side of the handle bar away from you
while pulling the right side towards you and you go right.


No. On a moving motorcycle, (and I assume a bicycle, although I
haven't tried it) pushing the left handle away from you will cause the
motorcycle to turn towards the left ... same side that you are pushing.
Push on the right ... bike will turn towards the right.

I can see several people are having trouble with this. Don't feel bad.
So did I until I tried it.

Eisboch

I've never ridden a motorcycle. But if I'm on my bicycle and I push on
the left hand handle bar, or pull on the right one (rotating the handle
bars clockwise as viewed by a bird flying by) and the bike turns right.

I still cannot comprehend how adding a motor causes the opposite.


Nothing to do with the motor.

There are a lot of factors in play when you make a turn on a two-wheeled
vehicle.
Try this sometime on you're bicycle. Ride along, nice and straight and
without leaning.
As you pedal along, gently push one of the handlebars away from you. (no
leaning)
Note which way the bike tries to turn.

Eisboch

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On Wed, 30 May 2007 18:20:52 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:



Push left, go left. Push right, go right. Just the opposite of a
tricycle.

Huh?


He's correct. Same on a motorcycle. Push the left handle forward,
the bike will make a left turn. Push the right handle forward, bike
turns to the right.

Try it sometime.

Eisboch


Hmmm. Actually push the left side of the handle bar away from you
while pulling the right side towards you and you go right.


No. On a moving motorcycle, (and I assume a bicycle, although I
haven't tried it) pushing the left handle away from you will cause the
motorcycle to turn towards the left ... same side that you are pushing.
Push on the right ... bike will turn towards the right.

I can see several people are having trouble with this. Don't feel bad.
So did I until I tried it.

Eisboch

I've never ridden a motorcycle. But if I'm on my bicycle and I push on
the left hand handle bar, or pull on the right one (rotating the handle
bars clockwise as viewed by a bird flying by) and the bike turns right.

I still cannot comprehend how adding a motor causes the opposite.


Yep. The only exception is with high speed racing motorcycles, bikes or
cars going into turns on a dirt or otherwise slippery track.

I was never talking about those conditions.

Every bicycle I ever used turned right when I pushed the left side of the
handle bar away me. Every motorcycle I ever owned did the same. Thus my
analogy in my original post.

I never thought my original post to this thread would evolve into dirt bike
racing maneuvers or disagreements on how to ride a bicycle.

'nuf said. ;-)

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On Wed, 30 May 2007 18:20:52 -0400, "JimH"
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Push left, go left. Push right, go right. Just the opposite of a
tricycle.

Huh?


He's correct. Same on a motorcycle. Push the left handle forward,
the bike will make a left turn. Push the right handle forward, bike
turns to the right.

Try it sometime.

Eisboch


Hmmm. Actually push the left side of the handle bar away from you
while pulling the right side towards you and you go right.


No. On a moving motorcycle, (and I assume a bicycle, although I
haven't tried it) pushing the left handle away from you will cause the
motorcycle to turn towards the left ... same side that you are pushing.
Push on the right ... bike will turn towards the right.

I can see several people are having trouble with this. Don't feel bad.
So did I until I tried it.

Eisboch

I've never ridden a motorcycle. But if I'm on my bicycle and I push on
the left hand handle bar, or pull on the right one (rotating the handle
bars clockwise as viewed by a bird flying by) and the bike turns right.

I still cannot comprehend how adding a motor causes the opposite.


Yep. The only exception is with high speed racing motorcycles, bikes or
cars going into turns on a dirt or otherwise slippery track.

I was never talking about those conditions.

Every bicycle I ever used turned right when I pushed the left side of the
handle bar away me. Every motorcycle I ever owned did the same. Thus my
analogy in my original post.

I never thought my original post to this thread would evolve into dirt bike
racing maneuvers or disagreements on how to ride a bicycle.

'nuf said. ;-)


Guess what....you paid no attention to what your hands were doing when the
bike turned.

I believe you're the only one who mentioned dirt bikes, but the principle
is the same.

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On Wed, 30 May 2007 18:20:52 -0400, "JimH"
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Push left, go left. Push right, go right. Just the opposite of a
tricycle.

Huh?


He's correct. Same on a motorcycle. Push the left handle forward, the
bike will make a left turn. Push the right handle forward, bike turns
to the right.

Try it sometime.

Eisboch


Hmmm. Actually push the left side of the handle bar away from you while
pulling the right side towards you and you go right.


No. On a moving motorcycle, (and I assume a bicycle, although I haven't
tried it) pushing the left handle away from you will cause the motorcycle
to turn towards the left ... same side that you are pushing. Push on the
right ... bike will turn towards the right.

I can see several people are having trouble with this. Don't feel bad.
So did I until I tried it.

Eisboch

I've never ridden a motorcycle. But if I'm on my bicycle and I push on the
left hand handle bar, or pull on the right one (rotating the handle bars
clockwise as viewed by a bird flying by) and the bike turns right.

I still cannot comprehend how adding a motor causes the opposite.


Get the bike up to speed. Take your right hand off the handlebar, and do
the same thing. You will go left, as the bike will lean that way as soon as
you push on the left bar.

If you don't realize this, don't ride your bike in touchy situations where
you may have to suddenly swerve.

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On Wed, 30 May 2007 18:20:52 -0400, "JimH"
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Push left, go left. Push right, go right. Just the opposite of a
tricycle.

Huh?

He's correct. *Same on a motorcycle. * Push the left handle forward, the
bike will make a left turn. *Push the right handle forward, bike turns to
the right.

Try it sometime.

Eisboch

Hmmm. * Actually push the left side of the handle bar away from you while
pulling the right side towards you and you go right.

No. * On a moving motorcycle, *(and I assume a bicycle, although I haven't
tried it) pushing the *left handle away from you will cause the motorcycle
to turn towards the left ... same side that you are pushing. *Push on the
right ... bike will turn towards the right.

I can see several people are having trouble with this. *Don't feel bad. *So
did I until I tried it.

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I think it has to do with the shifting of weight to the side you are
"pushing" on.

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On Wed, 30 May 2007 18:20:52 -0400, "JimH"
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Push left, go left. Push right, go right. Just the opposite of a
tricycle.

Huh?

He's correct. ame on a motorcycle. Push the left handle forward, the
bike will make a left turn. ush the right handle forward, bike turns to
the right.

Try it sometime.

Eisboch

Hmmm. Actually push the left side of the handle bar away from you while
pulling the right side towards you and you go right.

No. On a moving motorcycle, (and I assume a bicycle, although I haven't
tried it) pushing the ,eft handle away from you will cause the motorcycle
to turn towards the left ... same side that you are pushing. ush on the
right ... bike will turn towards the right.

I can see several people are having trouble with this. on't feel bad. o
did I until I tried it.

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I think it has to do with the shifting of weight to the side you are
"pushing" on.

No it doesn't. Try it. Shifting the weight just enables you to turn without
as much bike lean.

He's correct. Same on a motorcycle. Push the left handle forward, the
bike will make a left turn. Push the right handle forward, bike turns
to the right.

Try it sometime.

Eisboch


Hmmm. Actually push the left side of the handle bar away from you while
pulling the right side towards you and you go right.


No. On a moving motorcycle, (and I assume a bicycle, although I haven't
tried it) pushing the left handle away from you will cause the motorcycle
to turn towards the left ... same side that you are pushing. Push on the
right ... bike will turn towards the right.

I can see several people are having trouble with this. Don't feel bad.
So did I until I tried it.

Eisboch

Okay, I'll vouch for Eisboch. Except I always thougnt of it as push on the
hand grip that is closest to the pavement and you'll turn in that more
sharply in that direction... and if for some reason the handlebars should
snap back in the opposite direction you will be launched @ss over tea kettle
over said handlebars.

Steve P.

On Wed, 30 May 2007 21:28:24 -0400, "Steve P" wrote:


He's correct. Same on a motorcycle. Push the left handle forward, the
bike will make a left turn. Push the right handle forward, bike turns
to the right.

Try it sometime.

Eisboch


Hmmm. Actually push the left side of the handle bar away from you while
pulling the right side towards you and you go right.


No. On a moving motorcycle, (and I assume a bicycle, although I haven't
tried it) pushing the left handle away from you will cause the motorcycle
to turn towards the left ... same side that you are pushing. Push on the
right ... bike will turn towards the right.

I can see several people are having trouble with this. Don't feel bad.
So did I until I tried it.

Eisboch

Okay, I'll vouch for Eisboch. Except I always thougnt of it as push on the
hand grip that is closest to the pavement and you'll turn in that more
sharply in that direction... and if for some reason the handlebars should
snap back in the opposite direction you will be launched @ss over tea kettle
over said handlebars.

Steve P.


What you've said is correct. If you're in a turn, and you see you've not
turned sharply enough, pushing on the handlebar closest to the pavement
(the inside of the turn) will cause the bike to turn more sharply.

What will cause handlebars to 'snap back' is often referred to as 'high
siding'. This is caused by releasing the rear brake while the bike is in a
rear-wheel skid. The sudden resumption of traction will cause the bike to
suddenly right itself, often too far.