I've noticed the past couple years whenever I look in on the Survivor
tv show that whenever they're in a boat/canoe they are using high-end
nice wood'n'carbon paddles. Bent shaft. And they're ALWAYS using them
backwards. Uniformly. I'm thinking that some staffer is telling them
wrong. It's lame! These are weak, tired people who are hampering
themselves by wasting paddling effort bigtime. Turn the paddles
around, people! Anyone know how to contact Survivor staffers? --JP
outyourbackdoor.com

On May 15, 8:35 am, "Jeff Potter (of OutYourBackdoor.com)"
wrote:
I've noticed the past couple years whenever I look in on the Survivor
tv show that whenever they're in a boat/canoe they are using high-end
nice wood'n'carbon paddles. Bent shaft. And they're ALWAYS using them
backwards. Uniformly. I'm thinking that some staffer is telling them
wrong. It's lame! These are weak, tired people who are hampering
themselves by wasting paddling effort bigtime. Turn the paddles
around, people! Anyone know how to contact Survivor staffers? --JP
outyourbackdoor.com



so they are supposed to be surviving on there own; let em learn or
die.
its a stupid show about stupid people in a stupid situation that any
toddeler could survive. they have so many rules in place it has
nothing to do with survival, its all politics if i want real survival
i will go watch field mice, lord knows the dialog is better.

On May 17, 3:30 am, Two meter troll wrote:

its a stupid show about stupid people in a stupid situation

It's merely the soap opera with different costume & makeup. And the
conflict points in the script are announced beforehand. The only
difference from daytime soaps is there's no pretense at even beginning
to imitate real life.

Pete H

On May 18, 9:09 am, pmh wrote:
On May 17, 3:30 am, Two meter troll wrote:

its a stupid show about stupid people in a stupid situation

It's merely the soap opera with different costume & makeup. And the
conflict points in the script are announced beforehand. The only
difference from daytime soaps is there's no pretense at even beginning
to imitate real life.

Pete H

There's no reason to consider the negatives in this forum other than
that it looks to me like a staffer is having everyone on every show/
season use their bent-shaft paddles backwards. The rest of the content
is immaterial. Paddlefolk naturally want media depictions of paddling
to be correct. To not mislead anyone. Of the millions who are
watching. Also, the folks on the show probably are indeed tired and
would benefit from easier paddling. And also, heck, they're people,
too---they're obviously nonpaddlers who are now getting to do some
paddling and it looks like some staffer is making them have a bad
time. If even a soap opera person is paddling for the first time I
want them to learn right so they can enjoy it. Does everyone just
naturally use a bentshaft backwards and never try it the other way and
notice a difference? I'm not sure I'd even notice the difference right
away. And if I had no experience to compare it to? --JP

On May 18, 9:51 am, "Jeff Potter (of OutYourBackdoor.com)"
wrote:
On May 18, 9:09 am, pmh wrote:

On May 17, 3:30 am, Two meter troll wrote:

its a stupid show about stupid people in a stupid situation

It's merely the soap opera with different costume & makeup. And the
conflict points in the script are announced beforehand. The only
difference from daytime soaps is there's no pretense at even beginning
to imitate real life.

Pete H

There's no reason to consider the negatives in this forum other than
that it looks to me like a staffer is having everyone on every show/
season use their bent-shaft paddles backwards. The rest of the content
is immaterial. Paddlefolk naturally want media depictions of paddling
to be correct. To not mislead anyone. Of the millions who are
watching. Also, the folks on the show probably are indeed tired and
would benefit from easier paddling. And also, heck, they're people,
too---they're obviously nonpaddlers who are now getting to do some
paddling and it looks like some staffer is making them have a bad
time. If even a soap opera person is paddling for the first time I
want them to learn right so they can enjoy it. Does everyone just
naturally use a bentshaft backwards and never try it the other way and
notice a difference? I'm not sure I'd even notice the difference right
away. And if I had no experience to compare it to? --JP


you could go to the web site and put it in as a comment; maybe provide
a link to a vid of someone paddeling correctly. I am sorry but after
catching the "Reality" shows (i dont watch tv so ive only seen them at
other folks homes) and seeing things like people paddeling outriggers
whith the sail set or paddels being used in a pram instead of oars. i
dont have alot of empathy for them. i would like to see some real
skill; but it just looks to me like no one has told the folks in the
boat anything about boats. on one show they where wearing life vests
and had them buckeled wrong (the diagram is on the inside left of the
flotation device).

I have just gotten to expect that they are doing it wrong from the
getgo and dont really feel that a comment is even going to be
reguarded as help.

On May 19, 10:10 pm, Two meter troll wrote:
On May 18, 9:51 am, "Jeff Potter (of OutYourBackdoor.com)"





wrote:
On May 18, 9:09 am, pmh wrote:

On May 17, 3:30 am, Two meter troll wrote:

its a stupid show about stupid people in a stupid situation

It's merely the soap opera with different costume & makeup. And the
conflict points in the script are announced beforehand. The only
difference from daytime soaps is there's no pretense at even beginning
to imitate real life.

Pete H

There's no reason to consider the negatives in this forum other than
that it looks to me like a staffer is having everyone on every show/
season use their bent-shaft paddles backwards. The rest of the content
is immaterial. Paddlefolk naturally want media depictions of paddling
to be correct. To not mislead anyone. Of the millions who are
watching. Also, the folks on the show probably are indeed tired and
would benefit from easier paddling. And also, heck, they're people,
too---they're obviously nonpaddlers who are now getting to do some
paddling and it looks like some staffer is making them have a bad
time. If even a soap opera person is paddling for the first time I
want them to learn right so they can enjoy it. Does everyone just
naturally use a bentshaft backwards and never try it the other way and
notice a difference? I'm not sure I'd even notice the difference right
away. And if I had no experience to compare it to? --JP

you could go to the web site and put it in as a comment; maybe provide
a link to a vid of someone paddeling correctly. I am sorry but after
catching the "Reality" shows (i dont watch tv so ive only seen them at
other folks homes) and seeing things like people paddeling outriggers
whith the sail set or paddels being used in a pram instead of oars. i
dont have alot of empathy for them. i would like to see some real
skill; but it just looks to me like no one has told the folks in the
boat anything about boats. on one show they where wearing life vests
and had them buckeled wrong (the diagram is on the inside left of the
flotation device).

I have just gotten to expect that they are doing it wrong from the
getgo and dont really feel that a comment is even going to be
reguarded as help.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

http://tinyurl.com/3yu5un

Not everyone is doing what they are told, then. However, it seems
strange that a player who knows how to use a bentshaft would not tell
his teammates.

--riverman

On May 19, 10:22 pm, riverman wrote:
On May 19, 10:10 pm, Two meter troll wrote:





On May 18, 9:51 am, "Jeff Potter (of OutYourBackdoor.com)"

wrote:
On May 18, 9:09 am, pmh wrote:

On May 17, 3:30 am, Two meter troll wrote:

its a stupid show about stupid people in a stupid situation

It's merely the soap opera with different costume & makeup. And the
conflict points in the script are announced beforehand. The only
difference from daytime soaps is there's no pretense at even beginning
to imitate real life.

Pete H

There's no reason to consider the negatives in this forum other than
that it looks to me like a staffer is having everyone on every show/
season use their bent-shaft paddles backwards. The rest of the content
is immaterial. Paddlefolk naturally want media depictions of paddling
to be correct. To not mislead anyone. Of the millions who are
watching. Also, the folks on the show probably are indeed tired and
would benefit from easier paddling. And also, heck, they're people,
too---they're obviously nonpaddlers who are now getting to do some
paddling and it looks like some staffer is making them have a bad
time. If even a soap opera person is paddling for the first time I
want them to learn right so they can enjoy it. Does everyone just
naturally use a bentshaft backwards and never try it the other way and
notice a difference? I'm not sure I'd even notice the difference right
away. And if I had no experience to compare it to? --JP

you could go to the web site and put it in as a comment; maybe provide
a link to a vid of someone paddeling correctly. I am sorry but after
catching the "Reality" shows (i dont watch tv so ive only seen them at
other folks homes) and seeing things like people paddeling outriggers
whith the sail set or paddels being used in a pram instead of oars. i
dont have alot of empathy for them. i would like to see some real
skill; but it just looks to me like no one has told the folks in the
boat anything about boats. on one show they where wearing life vests
and had them buckeled wrong (the diagram is on the inside left of the
flotation device).

I have just gotten to expect that they are doing it wrong from the
getgo and dont really feel that a comment is even going to be
reguarded as help.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

http://tinyurl.com/3yu5un

Not everyone is doing what they are told, then. However, it seems
strange that a player who knows how to use a bentshaft would not tell
his teammates.

Ah! That's a first I've seen someone doing it right. Maybe no one can
tell from a short effort if the right way is working. Maybe there are
enough distractions that the guy doesn't know he's doing it
differently from his pals. I haven't tried it wrong lately to feel how
bad it feels. I just thought I'd see more of them accidentally doing
it right if they weren't being coached wrongly. Also, it seems like
Survivor in particular has a lot of paddling, which is why a good tip
would pay off in saved effort---they're also actually hungry, tired,
sometimes. PS: I did post about this to their Forum which is the only
way it looks like to contact the show, but really it's just contacting
their "community." I see no official show contact. --jP

On May 21, 1:53 pm, "Jeff Potter (of OutYourBackdoor.com)"
wrote:
On May 19, 10:22 pm, riverman wrote:



On May 19, 10:10 pm, Two meter troll wrote:

On May 18, 9:51 am, "Jeff Potter (of OutYourBackdoor.com)"

wrote:
On May 18, 9:09 am, pmh wrote:

On May 17, 3:30 am, Two meter troll wrote:

its a stupid show about stupid people in a stupid situation

It's merely the soap opera with different costume & makeup. And the
conflict points in the script are announced beforehand. The only
difference from daytime soaps is there's no pretense at even beginning
to imitate real life.

Pete H

There's no reason to consider the negatives in this forum other than
that it looks to me like a staffer is having everyone on every show/
season use their bent-shaft paddles backwards. The rest of the content
is immaterial. Paddlefolk naturally want media depictions of paddling
to be correct. To not mislead anyone. Of the millions who are
watching. Also, the folks on the show probably are indeed tired and
would benefit from easier paddling. And also, heck, they're people,
too---they're obviously nonpaddlers who are now getting to do some
paddling and it looks like some staffer is making them have a bad
time. If even a soap opera person is paddling for the first time I
want them to learn right so they can enjoy it. Does everyone just
naturally use a bentshaft backwards and never try it the other way and
notice a difference? I'm not sure I'd even notice the difference right
away. And if I had no experience to compare it to? --JP

you could go to the web site and put it in as a comment; maybe provide
a link to a vid of someone paddeling correctly. I am sorry but after
catching the "Reality" shows (i dont watch tv so ive only seen them at
other folks homes) and seeing things like people paddeling outriggers
whith the sail set or paddels being used in a pram instead of oars. i
dont have alot of empathy for them. i would like to see some real
skill; but it just looks to me like no one has told the folks in the
boat anything about boats. on one show they where wearing life vests
and had them buckeled wrong (the diagram is on the inside left of the
flotation device).

I have just gotten to expect that they are doing it wrong from the
getgo and dont really feel that a comment is even going to be
reguarded as help.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

http://tinyurl.com/3yu5un

Not everyone is doing what they are told, then. However, it seems
strange that a player who knows how to use a bentshaft would not tell
his teammates.

Ah! That's a first I've seen someone doing it right. Maybe no one can
tell from a short effort if the right way is working. Maybe there are
enough distractions that the guy doesn't know he's doing it
differently from his pals. I haven't tried it wrong lately to feel how
bad it feels. I just thought I'd see more of them accidentally doing
it right if they weren't being coached wrongly. Also, it seems like
Survivor in particular has a lot of paddling, which is why a good tip
would pay off in saved effort---they're also actually hungry, tired,
sometimes. PS: I did post about this to their Forum which is the only
way it looks like to contact the show, but really it's just contacting
their "community." I see no official show contact. --jP



Jeff
i think one problem would be that you have done it right for so long
that if you did it wrong for you it would be awkward for them it may
just feel like the way it supposed to work.