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Chuck Gould May 10th 07 12:33 AM

At the end of the first day...
 
On May 9, 12:10�pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 9, 9:11?am, Harry Krause wrote:
*Don't you have another
advertorial you can pimp here?


No, but I am planning to redo four kitchens and five bathrooms before
fall so stay tuned. Posting the photos of such projects is apparently
consistent with the theme of a boating NG and will be of interest to
all. :-)


Chuck,
Please post pictures of the cabinets still in the box. *It would really
be of special interest if you would keep us posted by tracking the
cabinets as they are shipped and post daily updates as to their location.


Well of course I won't really post remodeling photos on rec.boats.
And if I were to do so, the stuff I typically use in an apartment or
rental house wouldn't be all that much fancier than what Harry is
installing, only a little more durable to withstand careless use by
tenants. Just couldn't pass up the opportunity to rattle his chain,
particularly if the resident champion of unionism were found to be
installing gabinetes hecho en Mexico. :-)

I am very willing to accept Harry's explanation that the cabinets are
shipped in bi-ligual packaging. Been to Home Depot lately? Most of the
important signs are in English and Spanish. Makes sense, as a lot of
the casual labor likely sent to HD to pick up a load of 2x4's or sheet
rock may be more comfortable doing business in Spanish than in
English.

I'm sure that Harry's hickory cabinets were made in a union shop, down
in whatever part of Dixie he claimed they originated from.


JimH May 10th 07 12:45 AM

At the end of the first day...
 

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
On May 9, 12:10?pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 9, 9:11?am, Harry Krause wrote:
Don't you have another
advertorial you can pimp here?


No, but I am planning to redo four kitchens and five bathrooms before
fall so stay tuned. Posting the photos of such projects is apparently
consistent with the theme of a boating NG and will be of interest to
all. :-)


Chuck,
Please post pictures of the cabinets still in the box. It would really
be of special interest if you would keep us posted by tracking the
cabinets as they are shipped and post daily updates as to their location.




I am very willing to accept Harry's explanation that the cabinets are
shipped in bi-ligual packaging. Been to Home Depot lately? Most of the
important signs are in English and Spanish. Makes sense, as a lot of
the casual labor likely sent to HD to pick up a load of 2x4's or sheet
rock may be more comfortable doing business in Spanish than in
English.

=============

Your true colors came out in that single paragraph. Despite your liberal
preaching's you are obviously nothing more than a racist and a bigot Chuck.
Shame on you.



Reginald P. Smithers III May 10th 07 01:02 AM

At the end of the first day...
 
JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
On May 9, 12:10?pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 9, 9:11?am, Harry Krause wrote:
Don't you have another
advertorial you can pimp here?
No, but I am planning to redo four kitchens and five bathrooms before
fall so stay tuned. Posting the photos of such projects is apparently
consistent with the theme of a boating NG and will be of interest to
all. :-)

Chuck,
Please post pictures of the cabinets still in the box. It would really
be of special interest if you would keep us posted by tracking the
cabinets as they are shipped and post daily updates as to their location.




I am very willing to accept Harry's explanation that the cabinets are
shipped in bi-ligual packaging. Been to Home Depot lately? Most of the
important signs are in English and Spanish. Makes sense, as a lot of
the casual labor likely sent to HD to pick up a load of 2x4's or sheet
rock may be more comfortable doing business in Spanish than in
English.

=============

Your true colors came out in that single paragraph. Despite your liberal
preaching's you are obviously nothing more than a racist and a bigot Chuck.
Shame on you.



JimH,

I could not figure out what Chuck said that could possible be considered
racist or bigoted. It is a fact of life that a large percentage of
casual laborers and skilled construction workers are Hispanic, it is
also a fact of life that a large percent of them do not speak English or
are more comfortable speaking Spanish than English. That is the reason
why Home Depot employee's bilingual employees and have signs in English
and Spanish.

Maybe you can explain why you thought his comments were racist or
bigoted. Without an explanation it seems that you must have some real
racial issues if you read Chuck's comments as racists or that Chuck
represented himself as a bigot.


Reginald P. Smithers III May 10th 07 01:04 AM

At the end of the first day...
 
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 9, 12:10�pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 9, 9:11?am, Harry Krause wrote:
�Don't you have another
advertorial you can pimp here?
No, but I am planning to redo four kitchens and five bathrooms before
fall so stay tuned. Posting the photos of such projects is apparently
consistent with the theme of a boating NG and will be of interest to
all. :-)

Chuck,
Please post pictures of the cabinets still in the box. �It would really
be of special interest if you would keep us posted by tracking the
cabinets as they are shipped and post daily updates as to their location.


Well of course I won't really post remodeling photos on rec.boats.
And if I were to do so, the stuff I typically use in an apartment or
rental house wouldn't be all that much fancier than what Harry is
installing, only a little more durable to withstand careless use by
tenants. Just couldn't pass up the opportunity to rattle his chain,
particularly if the resident champion of unionism were found to be
installing gabinetes hecho en Mexico. :-)

I am very willing to accept Harry's explanation that the cabinets are
shipped in bi-ligual packaging. Been to Home Depot lately? Most of the
important signs are in English and Spanish. Makes sense, as a lot of
the casual labor likely sent to HD to pick up a load of 2x4's or sheet
rock may be more comfortable doing business in Spanish than in
English.

I'm sure that Harry's hickory cabinets were made in a union shop, down
in whatever part of Dixie he claimed they originated from.


Chuck,
I was teasing also when I requested detailed info on delivery, photos of
boxes as they are delivered and another photo of half installed cabinets.

Chuck Gould May 10th 07 02:16 AM

At the end of the first day...
 
On May 9, 4:45�pm, "JimH" wrote:
..

I am very willing to accept Harry's explanation that the cabinets are
shipped in bi-ligual packaging. Been to Home Depot lately? Most of the
important signs are in English and Spanish. Makes sense, as a lot of
the casual labor likely sent to HD to pick up a load of 2x4's or sheet
rock may be more comfortable doing business in Spanish than in
English.

=============

Your true colors came out in that single paragraph. *Despite your liberal
preaching's you are obviously nothing more than a racist and a bigot Chuck.
Shame on you.


What happened to "Chuck doesn't attack JimH, JimH doesn't attack
Chuck?"

Been to Home Depot or spent any time around a construction site
lately?
Many of the workers are more comfortable speaking Spanish. That's not
racism, that's an objective observation. And furthermore, it isn't
bigotry, unless you consider English somehow "superior" to Spanish.
Ear of the beholder?

There are some very intelligent and expressive people speaking and
writing nearly every language ever invented, certainly a long
tradition of literary excellence in Spanish. There are some folks dumb
as dog dung who speak and even attempt to write in English. English is
a ******* tongue that has borrowed and corrupted from a mixture of
(primarily romance) languages. Aside from the fact that the lexicon is
typically double or triple the size of the languages from which
English was assembled there is little that makes it "superior" to
Spanish, French, Italian, Greek, or Cantonese. In fact, the extreme
difficulty experienced by non-native speakers attempting to learn
English can be considered something of a disadvantage. English is one
of the "default" languages in many places around the globe. This is
due as much to the sun never setting on the British Empire and the
industrial/trade/tourism dominance of English speaking countries early
in the 20th Century as it is to any actual superiority of the English
language itself.

A variety of verb forms and greater flexibility with regard to the
order of words in a sentence allow Spanish speakers to express things
in one or two words that would take an entire sentence to describe in
English.

Observing that an individual may be more comfortable speaking one
language than another isn't racist or bigoted, although it might
appear that way to somebody operating from the perspective that people
unlike himself are somehow inferior.

But congrats on your short burst of self discipline. You observed our
informal cease fire longer than I would have thought you capable. For
my part, I'll continue ignoring you unless first attacked (as in this
thread). You are so not worth the bother, JimH.




JimH May 10th 07 02:29 AM

At the end of the first day...
 

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
On May 9, 4:45?pm, "JimH" wrote:
..

I am very willing to accept Harry's explanation that the cabinets are
shipped in bi-ligual packaging. Been to Home Depot lately? Most of the
important signs are in English and Spanish. Makes sense, as a lot of
the casual labor likely sent to HD to pick up a load of 2x4's or sheet
rock may be more comfortable doing business in Spanish than in
English.

=============

Your true colors came out in that single paragraph. Despite your liberal
preaching's you are obviously nothing more than a racist and a bigot
Chuck.
Shame on you.


What happened to "Chuck doesn't attack JimH, JimH doesn't attack
Chuck?"
++++++++++++++++++

I never agreed to your BS arrangement........and your post deserved an
honest response.

Don't like it...........tough.

I am tired of the double standards displayed here by the folks (sheriffs)
who claim to want to make the NG a kinder and gentler place yet do not abide
to those same standards.

Got it?

I hope so.



[email protected] May 10th 07 02:35 AM

At the end of the first day...
 
On May 9, 9:16 pm, Chuck Gould wrote:

There are some very intelligent and expressive people speaking and
writing nearly every language ever invented, certainly a long
tradition of literary excellence in Spanish. There are some folks dumb
as dog dung who speak and even attempt to write in English. English is
a ******* tongue that has borrowed and corrupted from a mixture of
(primarily romance) languages. Aside from the fact that the lexicon is
typically double or triple the size of the languages from which
English was assembled there is little that makes it "superior" to
Spanish, French, Italian, Greek, or Cantonese. In fact, the extreme
difficulty experienced by non-native speakers attempting to learn
English can be considered something of a disadvantage. English is one
of the "default" languages in many places around the globe. This is
due as much to the sun never setting on the British Empire and the
industrial/trade/tourism dominance of English speaking countries early
in the 20th Century as it is to any actual superiority of the English
language itself.


Socially maybe, but english is the language of commerce, worldwide.


JimH May 10th 07 02:47 AM

At the end of the first day...
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


Jesus, Chuck. Hire an editor. Why dump so many paragraphs when a short
sentence will do. Oh, and of course, your post had nothing to do with
boating. But at least you didn't tuck in one of your many commercial
references.


Time for Chuck to take his annual self imposed vacation from rec.boats.



Short Wave Sportfishing May 10th 07 02:53 AM

At the end of the first day...
 
On 9 May 2007 18:35:57 -0700, wrote:

Socially maybe, but english is the language of commerce, worldwide.


Don't tell the French that.

Chuck Gould May 10th 07 02:56 AM

At the end of the first day...
 
On May 9, 6:29?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

oups.com...
On May 9, 4:45?pm, "JimH" wrote:
.



I am very willing to accept Harry's explanation that the cabinets are
shipped in bi-ligual packaging. Been to Home Depot lately? Most of the
important signs are in English and Spanish. Makes sense, as a lot of
the casual labor likely sent to HD to pick up a load of 2x4's or sheet
rock may be more comfortable doing business in Spanish than in
English.


=============


Your true colors came out in that single paragraph. Despite your liberal
preaching's you are obviously nothing more than a racist and a bigot
Chuck.
Shame on you.


What happened to "Chuck doesn't attack JimH, JimH doesn't attack
Chuck?"
++++++++++++++++++

I never agreed to your BS arrangement........and your post deserved an
honest response.


Hmm. Find the imposter who posted, "I have stated my position on this,
you stop attacking me and I will do the same".....or words to that
exact effect.
You will want to ask him to stop posting things under your handle.


Will you explain why you think an observation that certain people may
be more comfortable speaking one language than another is racist or
bigoted?

If I posted, "JimH is more comfortable speaking English than Spanish",
would that be a racist comment? Why is the reverse statement racist
about an individual who was born and raised in a Spanish-speaking
society? It only sounds racist or bigoted to a person who is, him or
herself, so bigoted that any person of different ethnicity is presumed
to be inferior.

You were bursting to get some name calling done, and you used a cheap
excuse to do so. The fact that you are so obviously off base is
probably not as important to you as gratifying your urge to call names
and make crappy personal remarks.





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