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On May 8, 2:57?pm, Harry Krause wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
...eight base cabinets were put in position, aligned, leveled and
installed. Whew!

This is going to be my desk area.

The kitchenette is across from this area. Electrician was working there
today, pulling three 20-amp lines.

No injuries, amazing considering my klutziness.

Should have the wall cabinets on the other side done tomorrow...

http://tinyurl.com/3bfgye

"Gabinetes para cocina y bano?"

Shame on ya.

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LOL!

--Mike

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
On May 8, 2:57?pm, Harry Krause wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
...eight base cabinets were put in position, aligned, leveled and
installed. Whew!

This is going to be my desk area.

The kitchenette is across from this area. Electrician was working there
today, pulling three 20-amp lines.

No injuries, amazing considering my klutziness.

Should have the wall cabinets on the other side done tomorrow...

http://tinyurl.com/3bfgye

"Gabinetes para cocina y bano?"

Shame on ya.

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On 8 May 2007 20:43:52 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

"Gabinetes para cocina y bano?"

Gesundheit.

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Harry Krause wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 8, 2:57?pm, Harry Krause wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
...eight base cabinets were put in position, aligned, leveled and
installed. Whew!
This is going to be my desk area.
The kitchenette is across from this area. Electrician was working there
today, pulling three 20-amp lines.
No injuries, amazing considering my klutziness.
Should have the wall cabinets on the other side done tomorrow...
http://tinyurl.com/3bfgye

"Gabinetes para cocina y bano?"

Shame on ya.




That would be baño, not bano, and no. Bathroom in that area was built
when I built the house.

Shame? Oh...guess I forgot to mention the manufacturer's name, but,
then, I'm not pimping for a magazine.

Sears always sells the best Mexican made cabinets

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On May 9, 7:26�am, Harry Krause wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 8, 2:57?pm, Harry Krause wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
...eight base cabinets were put in position, aligned, leveled and
installed. Whew!
This is going to be my desk area.
The kitchenette is across from this area. Electrician was working there
today, pulling three 20-amp lines.
No injuries, amazing considering my klutziness.
Should have the wall cabinets on the other side done tomorrow...
http://tinyurl.com/3bfgye

"Gabinetes para cocina y bano?"

Shame on ya.

That would be baño, not bano, and no. Bathroom in that area was built
when I built the house.

Shame? *Oh...guess I forgot to mention the manufacturer's name, but,
then, I'm not pimping for a magazine.

Ahhh. You are referring maybe to the printing on the cabinet boxes. I
didn't notice that. The cabinets are manufactured in Virginia. Many
manufactured products these days are "wrapped" in packaging that
describes the contents in several languages.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Good thing you're more discerning about boats than you are
woodworking.

Pine drawers with butt instead of dovetail joints, drawer suspension
jammed into a plastic "hanger" against a backerboard of dubious
ancestry, thinnest possible frame stock and drawer fronts, 1-2 thin
coats of "finish". Nobody builds a boat down to the standards of your
office furniture- not for several years now.

At least you're stepping up a bit, however. Check out that old black
desk! That thing must weigh a zillion pounds. I had no idea they made
pressboard as thick as the top of that monster (see the hawse for your
computer connections, etc).

You really ought to be paying some attention to your roof. Nasty
looking stain on the wall just to the left of the Casablanca poster.
Looks like a defective hull (wall) to (roof) deck joint to me. Are you
planning to extend the "uppers" over the couch and thereby hide the
stain?

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On May 9, 9:11?am, Harry Krause wrote:
Don't you have another
advertorial you can pimp here?

No, but I am planning to redo four kitchens and five bathrooms before
fall so stay tuned. Posting the photos of such projects is apparently
consistent with the theme of a boating NG and will be of interest to
all. :-)

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Harry Krause wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 9, 7:26�am, Harry Krause wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 8, 2:57?pm, Harry Krause wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
...eight base cabinets were put in position, aligned, leveled and
installed. Whew!
This is going to be my desk area.
The kitchenette is across from this area. Electrician was working
there
today, pulling three 20-amp lines.
No injuries, amazing considering my klutziness.
Should have the wall cabinets on the other side done tomorrow...
http://tinyurl.com/3bfgye
"Gabinetes para cocina y bano?"
Shame on ya.
That would be baño, not bano, and no. Bathroom in that area was built
when I built the house.
Shame? Oh...guess I forgot to mention the manufacturer's name, but,
then, I'm not pimping for a magazine.
Ahhh. You are referring maybe to the printing on the cabinet boxes. I
didn't notice that. The cabinets are manufactured in Virginia. Many
manufactured products these days are "wrapped" in packaging that
describes the contents in several languages.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Good thing you're more discerning about boats than you are
woodworking.

Pine drawers with butt instead of dovetail joints, drawer suspension
jammed into a plastic "hanger" against a backerboard of dubious
ancestry, thinnest possible frame stock and drawer fronts, 1-2 thin
coats of "finish". Nobody builds a boat down to the standards of your
office furniture- not for several years now.

At least you're stepping up a bit, however. Check out that old black
desk! That thing must weigh a zillion pounds. I had no idea they made
pressboard as thick as the top of that monster (see the hawse for your
computer connections, etc).

You really ought to be paying some attention to your roof. Nasty
looking stain on the wall just to the left of the Casablanca poster.
Looks like a defective hull (wall) to (roof) deck joint to me. Are you
planning to extend the "uppers" over the couch and thereby hide the
stain?


If only you knew what you were talking about. Oh...the stain...that's
where two colors meet, and where I did a drywall seam repair which isn't
quite finished. No water. Once I finish the seam repair, another color
will be applied over the white. Good eyes, though.

The desk is an old steel monster, with a formica top. Served me well.
I'm going to use it now as an electronics work table. It is very heavy.

The new cabinet fronts and frames are solid hickory. I saw no reason to
spend what I did in the kitchen...this is for a light-use kitchenette,
and is more than enough for my purposes.

You've really turned yourself into the snark of the newsgroup, Chuck.
Consider yourself lucky I don't respond in kind. Don't you have another
advertorial you can pimp here?

Harry,
Just ignore Chuck, compared to your taste in artwork, your inexpensive
cabinets are top notch.

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Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 9, 9:11?am, Harry Krause wrote:
Don't you have another
advertorial you can pimp here?

No, but I am planning to redo four kitchens and five bathrooms before
fall so stay tuned. Posting the photos of such projects is apparently
consistent with the theme of a boating NG and will be of interest to
all. :-)




Chuck,
Please post pictures of the cabinets still in the box. It would really
be of special interest if you would keep us posted by tracking the
cabinets as they are shipped and post daily updates as to their location.

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Harry Krause wrote:


Later, I'll be building a masonry patio, probably of stone. If you were
brighter than a dimwit, I'd invite you over to watch and maybe carry
some hod.

Damn, that would have been almost as interesting and fun as the photos
published in rec.boats. Tough luck JohnH, you blew it.

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On Wed, 09 May 2007 14:14:52 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 9, 9:11?am, Harry Krause wrote:
Don't you have another
advertorial you can pimp here?

No, but I am planning to redo four kitchens and five bathrooms before
fall so stay tuned. Posting the photos of such projects is apparently
consistent with the theme of a boating NG and will be of interest to
all. :-)
y



I can just see you running a table saw.
If I were contracting this job out, I wouldn't have said a peep.
I'm also planning to do a patio this summer, masonry, of course. Will
post progress photos...

Please enlighten us, Harry. Of what use was a table saw in the installation
of prefabricated cabinets?

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On May 9, 12:10�pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 9, 9:11?am, Harry Krause wrote:
*Don't you have another
advertorial you can pimp here?

No, but I am planning to redo four kitchens and five bathrooms before
fall so stay tuned. Posting the photos of such projects is apparently
consistent with the theme of a boating NG and will be of interest to
all. :-)

Chuck,
Please post pictures of the cabinets still in the box. *It would really
be of special interest if you would keep us posted by tracking the
cabinets as they are shipped and post daily updates as to their location.

Well of course I won't really post remodeling photos on rec.boats.
And if I were to do so, the stuff I typically use in an apartment or
rental house wouldn't be all that much fancier than what Harry is
installing, only a little more durable to withstand careless use by
tenants. Just couldn't pass up the opportunity to rattle his chain,
particularly if the resident champion of unionism were found to be
installing gabinetes hecho en Mexico. :-)

I am very willing to accept Harry's explanation that the cabinets are
shipped in bi-ligual packaging. Been to Home Depot lately? Most of the
important signs are in English and Spanish. Makes sense, as a lot of
the casual labor likely sent to HD to pick up a load of 2x4's or sheet
rock may be more comfortable doing business in Spanish than in
English.

I'm sure that Harry's hickory cabinets were made in a union shop, down
in whatever part of Dixie he claimed they originated from.

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
On May 9, 12:10?pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 9, 9:11?am, Harry Krause wrote:
Don't you have another
advertorial you can pimp here?

No, but I am planning to redo four kitchens and five bathrooms before
fall so stay tuned. Posting the photos of such projects is apparently
consistent with the theme of a boating NG and will be of interest to
all. :-)

Chuck,
Please post pictures of the cabinets still in the box. It would really
be of special interest if you would keep us posted by tracking the
cabinets as they are shipped and post daily updates as to their location.



I am very willing to accept Harry's explanation that the cabinets are
shipped in bi-ligual packaging. Been to Home Depot lately? Most of the
important signs are in English and Spanish. Makes sense, as a lot of
the casual labor likely sent to HD to pick up a load of 2x4's or sheet
rock may be more comfortable doing business in Spanish than in
English.

=============

Your true colors came out in that single paragraph. Despite your liberal
preaching's you are obviously nothing more than a racist and a bigot Chuck.
Shame on you.

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JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
On May 9, 12:10?pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 9, 9:11?am, Harry Krause wrote:
Don't you have another
advertorial you can pimp here?
No, but I am planning to redo four kitchens and five bathrooms before
fall so stay tuned. Posting the photos of such projects is apparently
consistent with the theme of a boating NG and will be of interest to
all. :-)
Chuck,
Please post pictures of the cabinets still in the box. It would really
be of special interest if you would keep us posted by tracking the
cabinets as they are shipped and post daily updates as to their location.



I am very willing to accept Harry's explanation that the cabinets are
shipped in bi-ligual packaging. Been to Home Depot lately? Most of the
important signs are in English and Spanish. Makes sense, as a lot of
the casual labor likely sent to HD to pick up a load of 2x4's or sheet
rock may be more comfortable doing business in Spanish than in
English.

=============

Your true colors came out in that single paragraph. Despite your liberal
preaching's you are obviously nothing more than a racist and a bigot Chuck.
Shame on you.



JimH,

I could not figure out what Chuck said that could possible be considered
racist or bigoted. It is a fact of life that a large percentage of
casual laborers and skilled construction workers are Hispanic, it is
also a fact of life that a large percent of them do not speak English or
are more comfortable speaking Spanish than English. That is the reason
why Home Depot employee's bilingual employees and have signs in English
and Spanish.

Maybe you can explain why you thought his comments were racist or
bigoted. Without an explanation it seems that you must have some real
racial issues if you read Chuck's comments as racists or that Chuck
represented himself as a bigot.

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Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 9, 12:10�pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 9, 9:11?am, Harry Krause wrote:
�Don't you have another
advertorial you can pimp here?
No, but I am planning to redo four kitchens and five bathrooms before
fall so stay tuned. Posting the photos of such projects is apparently
consistent with the theme of a boating NG and will be of interest to
all. :-)
Chuck,
Please post pictures of the cabinets still in the box. �It would really
be of special interest if you would keep us posted by tracking the
cabinets as they are shipped and post daily updates as to their location.

Well of course I won't really post remodeling photos on rec.boats.
And if I were to do so, the stuff I typically use in an apartment or
rental house wouldn't be all that much fancier than what Harry is
installing, only a little more durable to withstand careless use by
tenants. Just couldn't pass up the opportunity to rattle his chain,
particularly if the resident champion of unionism were found to be
installing gabinetes hecho en Mexico. :-)

I am very willing to accept Harry's explanation that the cabinets are
shipped in bi-ligual packaging. Been to Home Depot lately? Most of the
important signs are in English and Spanish. Makes sense, as a lot of
the casual labor likely sent to HD to pick up a load of 2x4's or sheet
rock may be more comfortable doing business in Spanish than in
English.

I'm sure that Harry's hickory cabinets were made in a union shop, down
in whatever part of Dixie he claimed they originated from.


Chuck,
I was teasing also when I requested detailed info on delivery, photos of
boxes as they are delivered and another photo of half installed cabinets.

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On May 9, 4:45�pm, "JimH" wrote:
..

I am very willing to accept Harry's explanation that the cabinets are
shipped in bi-ligual packaging. Been to Home Depot lately? Most of the
important signs are in English and Spanish. Makes sense, as a lot of
the casual labor likely sent to HD to pick up a load of 2x4's or sheet
rock may be more comfortable doing business in Spanish than in
English.

=============

Your true colors came out in that single paragraph. *Despite your liberal
preaching's you are obviously nothing more than a racist and a bigot Chuck.
Shame on you.

What happened to "Chuck doesn't attack JimH, JimH doesn't attack
Chuck?"

Been to Home Depot or spent any time around a construction site
lately?
Many of the workers are more comfortable speaking Spanish. That's not
racism, that's an objective observation. And furthermore, it isn't
bigotry, unless you consider English somehow "superior" to Spanish.
Ear of the beholder?

There are some very intelligent and expressive people speaking and
writing nearly every language ever invented, certainly a long
tradition of literary excellence in Spanish. There are some folks dumb
as dog dung who speak and even attempt to write in English. English is
a ******* tongue that has borrowed and corrupted from a mixture of
(primarily romance) languages. Aside from the fact that the lexicon is
typically double or triple the size of the languages from which
English was assembled there is little that makes it "superior" to
Spanish, French, Italian, Greek, or Cantonese. In fact, the extreme
difficulty experienced by non-native speakers attempting to learn
English can be considered something of a disadvantage. English is one
of the "default" languages in many places around the globe. This is
due as much to the sun never setting on the British Empire and the
industrial/trade/tourism dominance of English speaking countries early
in the 20th Century as it is to any actual superiority of the English
language itself.

A variety of verb forms and greater flexibility with regard to the
order of words in a sentence allow Spanish speakers to express things
in one or two words that would take an entire sentence to describe in
English.

Observing that an individual may be more comfortable speaking one
language than another isn't racist or bigoted, although it might
appear that way to somebody operating from the perspective that people
unlike himself are somehow inferior.

But congrats on your short burst of self discipline. You observed our
informal cease fire longer than I would have thought you capable. For
my part, I'll continue ignoring you unless first attacked (as in this
thread). You are so not worth the bother, JimH.

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
On May 9, 4:45?pm, "JimH" wrote:
..

I am very willing to accept Harry's explanation that the cabinets are
shipped in bi-ligual packaging. Been to Home Depot lately? Most of the
important signs are in English and Spanish. Makes sense, as a lot of
the casual labor likely sent to HD to pick up a load of 2x4's or sheet
rock may be more comfortable doing business in Spanish than in
English.

=============

Your true colors came out in that single paragraph. Despite your liberal
preaching's you are obviously nothing more than a racist and a bigot
Chuck.
Shame on you.

What happened to "Chuck doesn't attack JimH, JimH doesn't attack
Chuck?"
++++++++++++++++++

I never agreed to your BS arrangement........and your post deserved an
honest response.

Don't like it...........tough.

I am tired of the double standards displayed here by the folks (sheriffs)
who claim to want to make the NG a kinder and gentler place yet do not abide
to those same standards.

Got it?

I hope so.

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On May 9, 9:16 pm, Chuck Gould wrote:

There are some very intelligent and expressive people speaking and
writing nearly every language ever invented, certainly a long
tradition of literary excellence in Spanish. There are some folks dumb
as dog dung who speak and even attempt to write in English. English is
a ******* tongue that has borrowed and corrupted from a mixture of
(primarily romance) languages. Aside from the fact that the lexicon is
typically double or triple the size of the languages from which
English was assembled there is little that makes it "superior" to
Spanish, French, Italian, Greek, or Cantonese. In fact, the extreme
difficulty experienced by non-native speakers attempting to learn
English can be considered something of a disadvantage. English is one
of the "default" languages in many places around the globe. This is
due as much to the sun never setting on the British Empire and the
industrial/trade/tourism dominance of English speaking countries early
in the 20th Century as it is to any actual superiority of the English
language itself.


Socially maybe, but english is the language of commerce, worldwide.

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


Jesus, Chuck. Hire an editor. Why dump so many paragraphs when a short
sentence will do. Oh, and of course, your post had nothing to do with
boating. But at least you didn't tuck in one of your many commercial
references.

Time for Chuck to take his annual self imposed vacation from rec.boats.

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On 9 May 2007 18:35:57 -0700, wrote:

Socially maybe, but english is the language of commerce, worldwide.

Don't tell the French that.

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On May 9, 6:29?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

oups.com...
On May 9, 4:45?pm, "JimH" wrote:
.



I am very willing to accept Harry's explanation that the cabinets are
shipped in bi-ligual packaging. Been to Home Depot lately? Most of the
important signs are in English and Spanish. Makes sense, as a lot of
the casual labor likely sent to HD to pick up a load of 2x4's or sheet
rock may be more comfortable doing business in Spanish than in
English.

=============

Your true colors came out in that single paragraph. Despite your liberal
preaching's you are obviously nothing more than a racist and a bigot
Chuck.
Shame on you.

What happened to "Chuck doesn't attack JimH, JimH doesn't attack
Chuck?"
++++++++++++++++++

I never agreed to your BS arrangement........and your post deserved an
honest response.

Hmm. Find the imposter who posted, "I have stated my position on this,
you stop attacking me and I will do the same".....or words to that
exact effect.
You will want to ask him to stop posting things under your handle.


Will you explain why you think an observation that certain people may
be more comfortable speaking one language than another is racist or
bigoted?

If I posted, "JimH is more comfortable speaking English than Spanish",
would that be a racist comment? Why is the reverse statement racist
about an individual who was born and raised in a Spanish-speaking
society? It only sounds racist or bigoted to a person who is, him or
herself, so bigoted that any person of different ethnicity is presumed
to be inferior.

You were bursting to get some name calling done, and you used a cheap
excuse to do so. The fact that you are so obviously off base is
probably not as important to you as gratifying your urge to call names
and make crappy personal remarks.

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On May 9, 6:47?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message

...



Jesus, Chuck. Hire an editor. Why dump so many paragraphs when a short
sentence will do. Oh, and of course, your post had nothing to do with
boating. But at least you didn't tuck in one of your many commercial
references.

Time for Chuck to take his annual self imposed vacation from rec.boats.

No need. I'm going to resume my vacation from specific, essentially
non-boating arseholes who hang out around here primarily to cause
trouble, call names, and start off-topic threads. If you run into
anybody like that, you'll notice that they aren't getting as much
attention from me. They don't deserve it.

Trying to kick a dog pile off the sidewalk only spreads it around and
gets shoes dirty in the process. Better to wak around a steaming pile
of feces and ignore it (which I hereby resolve to do a better job of)
than to engage certain idiots on their own level. They are so not
worth it. Keep a sharp eye peeled for anybody that meets that general
description, won't you? You never know where one will turn up.

OT: At the end of the first day...
 

Oh, and of course, your post had nothing to do with
boating.

Neither does your cabinet thread, and I believe we're still in it. Try using
OT for a change. I changed it for you so you get the idea.

--Mike

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 9, 4:45�pm, "JimH" wrote:
.
I am very willing to accept Harry's explanation that the cabinets are
shipped in bi-ligual packaging. Been to Home Depot lately? Most of the
important signs are in English and Spanish. Makes sense, as a lot of
the casual labor likely sent to HD to pick up a load of 2x4's or sheet
rock may be more comfortable doing business in Spanish than in
English.

=============

Your true colors came out in that single paragraph. Despite your
liberal
preaching's you are obviously nothing more than a racist and a bigot
Chuck.
Shame on you.

What happened to "Chuck doesn't attack JimH, JimH doesn't attack
Chuck?"

Been to Home Depot or spent any time around a construction site
lately?
Many of the workers are more comfortable speaking Spanish. That's not
racism, that's an objective observation. And furthermore, it isn't
bigotry, unless you consider English somehow "superior" to Spanish.
Ear of the beholder?

There are some very intelligent and expressive people speaking and
writing nearly every language ever invented, certainly a long
tradition of literary excellence in Spanish. There are some folks dumb
as dog dung who speak and even attempt to write in English. English is
a ******* tongue that has borrowed and corrupted from a mixture of
(primarily romance) languages. Aside from the fact that the lexicon is
typically double or triple the size of the languages from which
English was assembled there is little that makes it "superior" to
Spanish, French, Italian, Greek, or Cantonese. In fact, the extreme
difficulty experienced by non-native speakers attempting to learn
English can be considered something of a disadvantage. English is one
of the "default" languages in many places around the globe. This is
due as much to the sun never setting on the British Empire and the
industrial/trade/tourism dominance of English speaking countries early
in the 20th Century as it is to any actual superiority of the English
language itself.

A variety of verb forms and greater flexibility with regard to the
order of words in a sentence allow Spanish speakers to express things
in one or two words that would take an entire sentence to describe in
English.

Observing that an individual may be more comfortable speaking one
language than another isn't racist or bigoted, although it might
appear that way to somebody operating from the perspective that people
unlike himself are somehow inferior.

But congrats on your short burst of self discipline. You observed our
informal cease fire longer than I would have thought you capable. For
my part, I'll continue ignoring you unless first attacked (as in this
thread). You are so not worth the bother, JimH.





Jesus, Chuck. Hire an editor. Why dump so many paragraphs when a short
sentence will do. Oh, and of course, your post had nothing to do with
boating. But at least you didn't tuck in one of your many commercial
references.

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On 9 May 2007 18:35:57 -0700, wrote:

Socially maybe, but english is the language of commerce, worldwide.

Don't tell the French that.

I don't think you can tell the French, ANYTHING. :-

--Mike

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John H. wrote:

Let's see, if Donnie weighs in to defend Jimmie's stupid comments, then the
whole Hazeltone Trio will have made it's mark!
JohnH,
I have to correct you on this one, Harry did not defend JimH's comment,
he just used it as an opportunity to attack the person Harry used to say
was one of the few first class gentlemen in rec.boats, one that he would
enjoy taking out on his boat any day of the week, and would like to meet
up when in Seattle.

The funny thing, Harry thought JimH, was lower than snail **** is now he
is his best buddy.

Ripley's believe it or not.

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On Wed, 09 May 2007 17:55:16 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 09 May 2007 14:14:52 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 9, 9:11?am, Harry Krause wrote:
Don't you have another
advertorial you can pimp here?
No, but I am planning to redo four kitchens and five bathrooms before
fall so stay tuned. Posting the photos of such projects is apparently
consistent with the theme of a boating NG and will be of interest to
all. :-)
y



I can just see you running a table saw.
If I were contracting this job out, I wouldn't have said a peep.
I'm also planning to do a patio this summer, masonry, of course. Will
post progress photos...

Please enlighten us, Harry. Of what use was a table saw in the installation
of prefabricated cabinets?


Today's your lucky day, crap-for-brains, because I had to tear down my
desktop machine for a few days and am using my laptop, and I dumped the
filters on that machine a few months ago while experimenting. Obviously,
I need to set them up on the laptop so as to filter out you and the
rest of the newsgroup scumsuckers.

Let's see...table saw: end panels that need to be cut down to size. Trim
pieces that need to be cut down to size. Countertop support pieces that
need to be cut to the right lengths. Filler pieces that need to be
trimmed down to the right width. Custom side boxing for refrigerator.y


My electrician finished up today. I'm glad I got a pro for that part of
the job.

I'm also replacing a sliding patio door with a double "french" patio
door, and I have to make some custom trim pieces for that job.

Later, I'll be building a masonry patio, probably of stone. If you were
brighter than a dimwit, I'd invite you over to watch and maybe carry
some hod.

What will you be doing this summer, John? Licking your golf balls?

I am so pleased and honored that today is a 'no pretend' day.

Went out on the boat today to see what the Rappahannock has to offer.
Croaker are biting very well on bloodworms. Didn't try to find any
stripers.

Do you think you'll get any lobsta's this year?

Yes, cutting trim pieces and shortening support pieces is *definitely*
table saw work. Funny, I've helped renovate two kitchens now, and the most
we ever used was a chop saw. Hope everything turned out OK!

At the end of the first day...
 

On Wed, 9 May 2007 19:45:46 -0400, "JimH" wrote:


"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
roups.com...
On May 9, 12:10?pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 9, 9:11?am, Harry Krause wrote:
Don't you have another
advertorial you can pimp here?

No, but I am planning to redo four kitchens and five bathrooms before
fall so stay tuned. Posting the photos of such projects is apparently
consistent with the theme of a boating NG and will be of interest to
all. :-)

Chuck,
Please post pictures of the cabinets still in the box. It would really
be of special interest if you would keep us posted by tracking the
cabinets as they are shipped and post daily updates as to their location.



I am very willing to accept Harry's explanation that the cabinets are
shipped in bi-ligual packaging. Been to Home Depot lately? Most of the
important signs are in English and Spanish. Makes sense, as a lot of
the casual labor likely sent to HD to pick up a load of 2x4's or sheet
rock may be more comfortable doing business in Spanish than in
English.

=============

Your true colors came out in that single paragraph. Despite your liberal
preaching's you are obviously nothing more than a racist and a bigot Chuck.
Shame on you.


Oh yes, Chuck's words are very 'anti-Mexican'! Jimmie, your reading
comprehension problem just won't go away.

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On Wed, 09 May 2007 21:22:39 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 9, 4:45�pm, "JimH" wrote:
.
I am very willing to accept Harry's explanation that the cabinets are
shipped in bi-ligual packaging. Been to Home Depot lately? Most of the
important signs are in English and Spanish. Makes sense, as a lot of
the casual labor likely sent to HD to pick up a load of 2x4's or sheet
rock may be more comfortable doing business in Spanish than in
English.

=============

Your true colors came out in that single paragraph. Despite your liberal
preaching's you are obviously nothing more than a racist and a bigot Chuck.
Shame on you.

What happened to "Chuck doesn't attack JimH, JimH doesn't attack
Chuck?"

Been to Home Depot or spent any time around a construction site
lately?
Many of the workers are more comfortable speaking Spanish. That's not
racism, that's an objective observation. And furthermore, it isn't
bigotry, unless you consider English somehow "superior" to Spanish.
Ear of the beholder?

There are some very intelligent and expressive people speaking and
writing nearly every language ever invented, certainly a long
tradition of literary excellence in Spanish. There are some folks dumb
as dog dung who speak and even attempt to write in English. English is
a ******* tongue that has borrowed and corrupted from a mixture of
(primarily romance) languages. Aside from the fact that the lexicon is
typically double or triple the size of the languages from which
English was assembled there is little that makes it "superior" to
Spanish, French, Italian, Greek, or Cantonese. In fact, the extreme
difficulty experienced by non-native speakers attempting to learn
English can be considered something of a disadvantage. English is one
of the "default" languages in many places around the globe. This is
due as much to the sun never setting on the British Empire and the
industrial/trade/tourism dominance of English speaking countries early
in the 20th Century as it is to any actual superiority of the English
language itself.

A variety of verb forms and greater flexibility with regard to the
order of words in a sentence allow Spanish speakers to express things
in one or two words that would take an entire sentence to describe in
English.

Observing that an individual may be more comfortable speaking one
language than another isn't racist or bigoted, although it might
appear that way to somebody operating from the perspective that people
unlike himself are somehow inferior.

But congrats on your short burst of self discipline. You observed our
informal cease fire longer than I would have thought you capable. For
my part, I'll continue ignoring you unless first attacked (as in this
thread). You are so not worth the bother, JimH.





Jesus, Chuck. Hire an editor. Why dump so many paragraphs when a short
sentence will do. Oh, and of course, your post had nothing to do with
boating. But at least you didn't tuck in one of your many commercial
references.

Let's see, if Donnie weighs in to defend Jimmie's stupid comments, then the
whole Hazeltone Trio will have made it's mark!

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"John H." wrote in message
...

Let's see, if Donnie weighs in to defend Jimmie's stupid comments, then
the
whole Hazeltone Trio will have made it's mark!



just for you Johnny.

.. Oh, yes, Im the great facilitator
Just laughing and gay like a clown....................

At the end of the first day...
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"John H." wrote in message
...

Let's see, if Donnie weighs in to defend Jimmie's stupid comments, then
the
whole Hazeltone Trio will have made it's mark!



just for you Johnny.

. Oh, yes, Im the great facilitator
Just laughing and gay like a clown....................



Gay he is.

At the end of the first day...
 

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
On May 9, 4:45?pm, "JimH" wrote:
..

I am very willing to accept Harry's explanation that the cabinets are
shipped in bi-ligual packaging. Been to Home Depot lately? Most of the
important signs are in English and Spanish. Makes sense, as a lot of
the casual labor likely sent to HD to pick up a load of 2x4's or sheet
rock may be more comfortable doing business in Spanish than in
English.

=============

Your true colors came out in that single paragraph. Despite your liberal
preaching's you are obviously nothing more than a racist and a bigot
Chuck.
Shame on you.



Been to Home Depot or spent any time around a construction site
lately?
Many of the workers are more comfortable speaking Spanish.

==================

Now it is *many* and not *most*. ROTF.

What percentage of folks living in Seattle speak Spanish as their primary
language? It must be pretty high with all those Mexicans working as gofers
for construction jobs and speaking Spanish in the Home Depots around you.
Eh?

Spin it any way you want........you are a bigot.

Comprender?

At the end of the first day...
 

"JimH" wrote in message
...

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
On May 9, 4:45?pm, "JimH" wrote:
.

Been to Home Depot lately? Most of the
important signs are in English and Spanish. Makes sense, as a lot of
the casual labor likely sent to HD to pick up a load of 2x4's or sheet
rock may be more comfortable doing business in Spanish than in
English.

=============

Your true colors came out in that single paragraph. Despite your liberal
preaching's you are obviously nothing more than a racist and a bigot
Chuck.
Shame on you.



Been to Home Depot or spent any time around a construction site
lately?
Many of the workers are more comfortable speaking Spanish.

==================


What percentage of folks living in Seattle speak Spanish as their primary
language? It must be pretty high with all those Mexicans working as
gofers for construction jobs and speaking Spanish in the Home Depots
around you. Eh?

Spin it any way you want........you are a bigot.

Comprender?


Never mind........I found it.

Hispanic's/Latino's are a whole 5% of Seattle's population. Damn.......they
must spend their entire days walking through your Home Depot's and speaking
Spanish. ;-)

At the end of the first day...
 

JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
On May 9, 4:45?pm, "JimH" wrote:
.
I am very willing to accept Harry's explanation that the cabinets are
shipped in bi-ligual packaging. Been to Home Depot lately? Most of the
important signs are in English and Spanish. Makes sense, as a lot of
the casual labor likely sent to HD to pick up a load of 2x4's or sheet
rock may be more comfortable doing business in Spanish than in
English.

=============

Your true colors came out in that single paragraph. Despite your liberal
preaching's you are obviously nothing more than a racist and a bigot
Chuck.
Shame on you.



Been to Home Depot or spent any time around a construction site
lately?
Many of the workers are more comfortable speaking Spanish.

==================

Now it is *many* and not *most*. ROTF.

What percentage of folks living in Seattle speak Spanish as their primary
language? It must be pretty high with all those Mexicans working as gofers
for construction jobs and speaking Spanish in the Home Depots around you.
Eh?

Spin it any way you want........you are a bigot.

Comprender?



JimH,

He is not a bigot, but you do have a severe reading comprehension
problem and it seems you are a "closet bigot". Go back and reread his
statement, he never said "most", he said "a lot" (which means the same
thing as "many").

It appears that you are the bigot and got scared when he said "a lot".
The truth of the matter, in most metropolitan areas Mexicans make up a
large percent of the construction labor, both skilled and unskilled.

So tell us why you feel so scared of Mexicans/Hispanics that you are
freaking out this way. I personally use two Hispanics from Nicaragua to
help me do yard work on my mothers mini farm, I find them very hard
working and a pleasure to work with. One speaks English, the other guy
can understand some English, but strictly speaks Spanish.

You really should get to know some and stop jumping around looking like
Chicken Little.

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On May 10, 1:43�pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

oups.com...
On May 9, 4:45?pm, "JimH" wrote:
.



I am very willing to accept Harry's explanation that the cabinets are
shipped in bi-ligual packaging. Been to Home Depot lately? Most of the
important signs are in English and Spanish. Makes sense, as a lot of
the casual labor likely sent to HD to pick up a load of 2x4's or sheet
rock may be more comfortable doing business in Spanish than in
English.

=============

Your true colors came out in that single paragraph. Despite your liberal
preaching's you are obviously nothing more than a racist and a bigot
Chuck.
Shame on you.

Been to Home Depot or spent any time around a construction site
lately?
Many of the workers are more comfortable speaking Spanish.

==================

Now it is *many* and not *most*. *ROTF.

What percentage of folks living in Seattle speak Spanish as their primary
language? *It must be pretty high with all those Mexicans working as gofers
for construction jobs and speaking Spanish in the Home Depots around you.
Eh?

Spin it any way you want........you are a bigot.

Comprender?

BS noted.
Unworthy of response.

At the end of the first day...
 

"JimH" wrote in message
...


Spin it any way you want........you are a bigot.

Comprender?



I don't know whether Chuck is a bigot or not. I *do* know that there was
nothing in his post that would give me a clue, one way or the other.

Eisboch

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On Thu, 10 May 2007 14:48:34 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 09 May 2007 17:55:16 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 09 May 2007 14:14:52 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 9, 9:11?am, Harry Krause wrote:
Don't you have another
advertorial you can pimp here?
No, but I am planning to redo four kitchens and five bathrooms before
fall so stay tuned. Posting the photos of such projects is apparently
consistent with the theme of a boating NG and will be of interest to
all. :-)
y



I can just see you running a table saw.
If I were contracting this job out, I wouldn't have said a peep.
I'm also planning to do a patio this summer, masonry, of course. Will
post progress photos...
Please enlighten us, Harry. Of what use was a table saw in the installation
of prefabricated cabinets?

Today's your lucky day, crap-for-brains, because I had to tear down my
desktop machine for a few days and am using my laptop, and I dumped the
filters on that machine a few months ago while experimenting. Obviously,
I need to set them up on the laptop so as to filter out you and the
rest of the newsgroup scumsuckers.

Let's see...table saw: end panels that need to be cut down to size. Trim
pieces that need to be cut down to size. Countertop support pieces that
need to be cut to the right lengths. Filler pieces that need to be
trimmed down to the right width. Custom side boxing for refrigerator.y


My electrician finished up today. I'm glad I got a pro for that part of
the job.

I'm also replacing a sliding patio door with a double "french" patio
door, and I have to make some custom trim pieces for that job.

Later, I'll be building a masonry patio, probably of stone. If you were
brighter than a dimwit, I'd invite you over to watch and maybe carry
some hod.

What will you be doing this summer, John? Licking your golf balls?

I am so pleased and honored that today is a 'no pretend' day.

Went out on the boat today to see what the Rappahannock has to offer.
Croaker are biting very well on bloodworms. Didn't try to find any
stripers.

Do you think you'll get any lobsta's this year?

Yes, cutting trim pieces and shortening support pieces is *definitely*
table saw work. Funny, I've helped renovate two kitchens now, and the most
we ever used was a chop saw. Hope everything turned out OK!


No surprise you'd use a chop saw on your chop jobs. Three of my end
panels are eight feet tall. I'm sure you could chop your way to a
perfect cut with your inadequate tools.

Are you qualified to carry hod? You must have used some usable skill in
your army years, aside from drinking.

Harry, next time measure correctly when designing the kitchen. Then the
spacers will be the correct size.

At the end of the first day...
 

On Thu, 10 May 2007 14:58:29 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

John H. wrote:

Let's see, if Donnie weighs in to defend Jimmie's stupid comments, then the
whole Hazeltone Trio will have made it's mark!
JohnH,
I have to correct you on this one, Harry did not defend JimH's comment,
he just used it as an opportunity to attack the person Harry used to say
was one of the few first class gentlemen in rec.boats, one that he would
enjoy taking out on his boat any day of the week, and would like to meet
up when in Seattle.

The funny thing, Harry thought JimH, was lower than snail **** is now he
is his best buddy.

Ripley's believe it or not.

Harry chimed in on an 'attack Chuck' post. He, therefore, qualifies.

Snail **** is slower, but whale **** is lower.

At the end of the first day...
 

On Thu, 10 May 2007 17:11:14 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .

Let's see, if Donnie weighs in to defend Jimmie's stupid comments, then
the
whole Hazeltone Trio will have made it's mark!



just for you Johnny.

. Oh, yes, Im the great facilitator
Just laughing and gay like a clown....................


Yes, you are. Why be proud of it?

At the end of the first day...
 

On Thu, 10 May 2007 16:27:35 -0400, "JimH" wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
.. .

"John H." wrote in message
...

Let's see, if Donnie weighs in to defend Jimmie's stupid comments, then
the
whole Hazeltone Trio will have made it's mark!



just for you Johnny.

. Oh, yes, Im the great facilitator
Just laughing and gay like a clown....................



Gay he is.


Oh, we back to your homophobia tendencies again?

At the end of the first day...
 

On Thu, 10 May 2007 16:43:47 -0400, "JimH" wrote:


"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
roups.com...
On May 9, 4:45?pm, "JimH" wrote:
.

I am very willing to accept Harry's explanation that the cabinets are
shipped in bi-ligual packaging. Been to Home Depot lately? Most of the
important signs are in English and Spanish. Makes sense, as a lot of
the casual labor likely sent to HD to pick up a load of 2x4's or sheet
rock may be more comfortable doing business in Spanish than in
English.

=============

Your true colors came out in that single paragraph. Despite your liberal
preaching's you are obviously nothing more than a racist and a bigot
Chuck.
Shame on you.



Been to Home Depot or spent any time around a construction site
lately?
Many of the workers are more comfortable speaking Spanish.

==================

Now it is *many* and not *most*. ROTF.

What percentage of folks living in Seattle speak Spanish as their primary
language? It must be pretty high with all those Mexicans working as gofers
for construction jobs and speaking Spanish in the Home Depots around you.
Eh?

Spin it any way you want........you are a bigot.

Comprender?


Would one who is continuously making comments about gays be bigoted?

Got mirrors, Jimmie?

At the end of the first day...
 

"RCE" wrote in message
...

"JimH" wrote in message
...


Spin it any way you want........you are a bigot.

Comprender?



I don't know whether Chuck is a bigot or not. I *do* know that there
was nothing in his post that would give me a clue, one way or the other.

Eisboch


Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

I may be a bit more sensitive to this for reasons I care not to
discuss........and I do find his comments proving him a bigot.

In the end............life goes on. ;-)