"wf3h" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message

what i love about this is, when ira magaziner and hilary clintion
tried to get us universal health care

To which office was Hillary elected to in 1992?

to the office she was appointed to by the president of the USA. ever
hear of THAT office?

No, what's the name of it?

(And I asked about the office she was *elected* to in 1992)


Then what right did she have to make policy that would have destroyed the
healthcare system for 260,000,000 Americans with insurance so that
40,000,000 uninsured could get access?

and when DID you stop beating your wife? incidentally, 300,000,000
americans use energy....that dick cheney feels so deeply belongs only
to the rich.


85% of this country is getting along just fine with the health insurance
that they have, but the Democrats want to muck things up for them in order
to benefit the 15% who are uninsured. Smells of socialism to me. And it
stinks.

If you want socialism, move to the EU.

On Wed, 09 May 2007 16:31:06 +0000, NOYB wrote:


85% of this country is getting along just fine with the health insurance
that they have,

Really? 85% may be insured, but that doesn't mean they are getting along
just fine. I found one poll that suggests health care cost is the
country's biggest worry.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=581677

Our health care system accounts for over 15% GDP. Funny, but those
countries with universal health care have costs around 10% GDP, or less.
That 5% puts us at a considerable disadvantage in the global market
place. You may not have noticed, but many companies have. General
Motors, for instance, has been expanding it's operations in Canada, while
shrinking them here. Want to guess the reason?

http://www.counterpunch.org/lindorff04192005.html



but the Democrats want to muck things up for them in
order to benefit the 15% who are uninsured. Smells of socialism to me.
And it stinks.

If you want socialism, move to the EU.

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Wed, 09 May 2007 16:31:06 +0000, NOYB wrote:


85% of this country is getting along just fine with the health insurance
that they have,

Really? 85% may be insured, but that doesn't mean they are getting along
just fine. I found one poll that suggests health care cost is the
country's biggest worry.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=581677

Our health care system accounts for over 15% GDP. Funny, but those
countries with universal health care have costs around 10% GDP, or less.
That 5% puts us at a considerable disadvantage in the global market
place. You may not have noticed, but many companies have. General
Motors, for instance, has been expanding it's operations in Canada, while
shrinking them here. Want to guess the reason?

http://www.counterpunch.org/lindorff04192005.html



We need to control court/jury awards on malpractice and other medical
lawsuits. If that is not controlled then you can forget about other plans.

"thunder" wrote in message

General
Motors, for instance, has been expanding it's operations in Canada, while
shrinking them here. Want to guess the reason?

I know you want to claim the answer is "health insurance"...but the real
answer is "unions".

Once GM and Ford and Chrysler shut their factories here, and move them
abroad, they'll be out from under the unions. And then, 10 years from now,
you can bet that they'll open new union-free operations stateside again.

On Thu, 10 May 2007 04:56:14 +0000, NOYB wrote:

"thunder" wrote in message

General
Motors, for instance, has been expanding it's operations in Canada,
while shrinking them here. Want to guess the reason?

I know you want to claim the answer is "health insurance"...but the real
answer is "unions".

Once GM and Ford and Chrysler shut their factories here, and move them
abroad, they'll be out from under the unions. And then, 10 years from
now, you can bet that they'll open new union-free operations stateside
again.

Come on, NOYB, we were talking about Canada. Your union excuse doesn't
fly. Ever hear of the Canadian Auto Workers? They split from the UAW
because they are more militant, and didn't like the UAW's give-backs.

Oh, and just so you don't think I'm making this up, Google Rick Wagoner.
He is the one who said health care costs are wrecking the US economy.

On Thu, 10 May 2007 04:56:14 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"thunder" wrote in message

General
Motors, for instance, has been expanding it's operations in Canada, while
shrinking them here. Want to guess the reason?

I know you want to claim the answer is "health insurance"...but the real
answer is "unions".

Once GM and Ford and Chrysler shut their factories here, and move them
abroad, they'll be out from under the unions. And then, 10 years from now,
you can bet that they'll open new union-free operations stateside again.

And the cars will be better made also!

On May 9, 12:31 pm, "NOYB" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message

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NOYB wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message

what i love about this is, when ira magaziner and hilary clintion
tried to get us universal health care

To which office was Hillary elected to in 1992?

to the office she was appointed to by the president of the USA. ever
hear of THAT office?

No, what's the name of it?

(And I asked about the office she was *elected* to in 1992)



Then what right did she have to make policy that would have destroyed the
healthcare system for 260,000,000 Americans with insurance so that
40,000,000 uninsured could get access?

One could wonder if someone with a bunch of stock and a huge bully
pulpit could build up pharm stocks by touting a new, say, health plan!
Then they could short it, and dump the plan down the river...
hummmmmmm, someone could make a lot of money like that, maybe even a
little over a million!

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On May 9, 12:31 pm, "NOYB" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message

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NOYB wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message

what i love about this is, when ira magaziner and hilary clintion
tried to get us universal health care

To which office was Hillary elected to in 1992?

to the office she was appointed to by the president of the USA. ever
hear of THAT office?

No, what's the name of it?

(And I asked about the office she was *elected* to in 1992)



Then what right did she have to make policy that would have destroyed
the
healthcare system for 260,000,000 Americans with insurance so that
40,000,000 uninsured could get access?

One could wonder if someone with a bunch of stock and a huge bully
pulpit could build up pharm stocks by touting a new, say, health plan!
Then they could short it, and dump the plan down the river...
hummmmmmm, someone could make a lot of money like that, maybe even a
little over a million!


Maybe a little over a million *years* in the slammer. 8)